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Yikes, are you all watching the news?? Over $100,000 not insured, and bank paying only 50 cents on the dollar. Scary stuff... IndyMac Bank seized by federal regulators - Los Angeles Times |
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This is a link to a good site to check on how "safe and sound" your bank or credit union is. Take your time and read what the ratings mean. There is a difference between "safe and sound CAEL rating" and the "star rating" Bankrate.com -- Safe & Sound (tm): Bankrate's free rating system for banks, thrifts, credit unions Another page you can click on the "slick by rating" button. Click on the "1 star" (which means "Lowest rated") you can check each state. Some states have 20+ banks that MIGHT be in trouble. By the way ..IndyMac Bank was listed as a "1 star". Bankrate.com's Safe & Sound (tm) Bank, Thrift and Credit Unions rating feature Last edited by forrestlayne; 07-14-2008 at 07:47 PM. Reason: to add |
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I am a Market Watch addict. They are all trying to figure out the next to go or which will be deemed too big to be allowed to fail. There are something like 90 on the FDIC list. Many are speculating that there might be a much as one closing every other week for the rest of the year. its very interesting and very scarey.
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I heard the guy on the news tonight say that having more than $100,000 in one bank was like driving without a seat belt on. My grandfather's bank is listed as a 2 on the site, but he have been jockeying money around for months now. That is what really started worrying me, if the banker is worried we should all be worried. It does take some time to add names to accounts especially since some of the family are far away, so it's not as fast and easy as it should be sometimes.
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| The funny thing is, I'll bet all of us have seen that big FDIC sticker on the door. On it, it says "up to $100,000" or something like that. I guess we never really took into account what it actually meant. Now, we (general we) will, tho.
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QUESTION: Is the $100,000 per each account? Like if you have CD's or money markets all in the same bank and you have $50,000 in one account, $10,000 in another, $60,000 in one -- is each one insured for $100,000? I'm thinking about my MIL. This is the way hers is set up -- different amounts in different CDs and money markets. They're in the same bank but different accounts. |
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Thanks for the link. I'm going to go read it right now. This worries me, especially about my MIL. Edited: From what I read -- Your total amount in one bank (even if it's in different accounts) is insured only to $100,000 if in one name only. If you and another individual are listed jointly on the accounts, EACH person is insured to $100,000. I didn't know this. OP, thanks for opening this thread! Last edited by mom2twins2; 07-15-2008 at 04:08 PM. Reason: added info |
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Up to $100K in EACH BANK in each name is correct. The problems come in is say you have 80K in an account and you are also on an account for say your elderly parent to help with bill paying, etc. If the 2nd account you are on is over $20K, you are only insured up to the $100K. I you have $100K in each account, you will not get $200K in insurance, only $100K. This is the way it's been explained to me by my banker. My name is on my parents account, my brothers account and my accounts.So, we have to make sure all the money is protected
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well, sometimes people save their whole lives, or maybe have a nest egg from an accident settlement that is supposed to be there for future expenses, medical or other, or the sale of a home. So I dont think 100,000 is not a whole lot of money like it was at one time. If we sold our house, and banked the money and rented we might have a bundle sitting there. This isnt something that only affects the rich. It might even be affecting people who have no means to earn more money to live, where I am reasonably healthy and could work anywhere to make some money
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My bank rates 4 stars and a 2. What does that mean? (I have less then $1,000 in it so I am NOT worried, just wondering.)
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So with the bank problems : I have a credit card with Washington Mutual. According to what I hear, they are in trouble. What happens with my credit card if their problem gets too bad? Would another credit lender buy it out at a discounted rate to WAMU?? I owe around $2200 on the card.
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both of my banks that I'm using are rated the safest...which makes me feel very good... As far as I know, if WAMU goes under (although I don't think it will), and you still owe the $2200, it will go down as a loss and effect your credit rating for the next seven years. If you need to use your credit rating for anything outside of getting another credit card, you can write to the people that you are dealing with and explain the situation to them, and that you can't get it taken off your rating because there is no one to contact about that.... |
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We were going to pay off DH's credit card before mine. We owe approx. the same balance on both cards. His is with Chase. Would paying off the WAMU card or Chase card be best right now? We have worked DAM* hard to obtain the credit rating we have right now. If WAMU folds and I end up in collections, I will not be a happy camper.
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Take this for what it is: information from someone you don't know LOL If you OWE a bank money, it's not a big deal. Another bank will buy out their owed debt. For example, I have two family members whose mortgages were thru indymac. Just becuase indymac went under doesn't mean they don't owe it. It will get transferred (or sold) to another bank to take over. Same with credit cards. Someone will want that money owed and will buy the accounts for pennies on the dollar. I pay off my balances monthly but this thread prompted me to call my accountant and I was basically told what I said here. Money owed to a downed bank isn't the problem, it's money earned or kept with them (due to you). Of coarse, checking with your accountant/financial adviser would be best. To ease your mind you could try transferring your balance to another bank's card? Ah, remembered another example. I used to have a NextCard thru Amazon Visa. One day...no more NextCard. Chase bought the credit card side and my card transferred to my new Chase card
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That is what I thought too. But everything had me thinking that perhaps I was wrong. I know our cards have already transferred a few times since we received them. As has our mortgage. Thanks!
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I heard on the news tonite that some time in the 80's there were 500+ banks on the "in trouble" list. I really don't think people should get overly worried. That is what leads to knee jerk reactions, and makes banks go bankrupt.
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My problem with the government bailing out these banks is...we're the ones paying for it. When all the shareholders were receiving dividend checks and board members were getting 6 to 7 figure bonuses it was all hunky-dory. Now they are in trouble and we have to bail them out? I understand why it has to be done, it just totally irritates me. |
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DH feels the same way. All these people getting help with the mortgages they were too stupid to stay away from. We were smart, we could have bought a 0 down and a variable- interest only for the first 5 years- rate house but I knew we couldn't afford it later. All these people that were stupid enough to do it should have to sleep in the bed they made. I understand why the governemnt meeds to step in but I think all us that were smart enough to avoid the hype should get rewarded instead of those that got caught up in it getting bailed out.
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I was thinking about this thread when I ran across this on the cnn site. Great Article explaining what the FDIC covers and what it doesn't. Ask the Expert - Money Magazine What is and isn’t protected from bank failure |
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Thanks for the link - it really is good information! |
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