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Old 10-07-2008, 02:12 AM
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Joshua Duggar married!

I just watched the new episode of 17 Kids and Counting and it showed the engagement of Joshua and Anna. I found out they just got married on 9/26 and they now have their own website. No pictures of the wedding yet. Can't wait to see those!
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I knew they had gotten married. I watched the show tonight also. Boy, how weird to not even 'kiss' before the wedding day! And to have a chaperone?! I guess that's how it was done in the old days. Guess it serves the purpose, ha ha. They acted more like 16 yr. olds 'in love' though than 20 year olds. Geez. It was a bit much to watch in my opinion. The constant hand holding, constand "I looooovvvveee you", etc. Too funny. It was a bit interesting to see the cousin Amy and that she didn't have the same value system that the rest of the Duggar clan has. Did you guys catch the ending where they stated they plan to let God give them as many children as he wishes, etc.? So I guess they plan on a large family also. I know they said that Joshua sees his mom in Anna as they are a lot alike, and his dad (Jim Bob) told him long ago to find a woman like his mom.

I am the one that lives in a town over from where the Duggars live. We go to the mall they showed tonight on the show and have eaten at Abuelo's (the restaurant they showed them eating at). Too funny to see these things from our area on national t.v. I do find it weird that they have their own website?! Wow.
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:46 AM
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i didnt watch the show, but the ones that got married werent even allowed to kiss before they got married? WOW! How in the world would you know if you have the right chemistry if you cant kiss? I bet those poor kids internally combusted on their wedding night...lmao! I will have to try and catch a repeat.

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Old 10-07-2008, 07:12 AM
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I knew they had gotten married. I watched the show tonight also. Boy, how weird to not even 'kiss' before the wedding day! And to have a chaperone?! I guess that's how it was done in the old days. Guess it serves the purpose, ha ha. They acted more like 16 yr. olds 'in love' though than 20 year olds. Geez. It was a bit much to watch in my opinion. The constant hand holding, constand "I looooovvvveee you", etc. Too funny. It was a bit interesting to see the cousin Amy and that she didn't have the same value system that the rest of the Duggar clan has. Did you guys catch the ending where they stated they plan to let God give them as many children as he wishes, etc.? So I guess they plan on a large family also. I know they said that Joshua sees his mom in Anna as they are a lot alike, and his dad (Jim Bob) told him long ago to find a woman like his mom.

I am the one that lives in a town over from where the Duggars live. We go to the mall they showed tonight on the show and have eaten at Abuelo's (the restaurant they showed them eating at). Too funny to see these things from our area on national t.v. I do find it weird that they have their own website?! Wow.


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Old 10-07-2008, 07:44 AM
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:09 AM
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:26 AM
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How did they meet? Was this an arranged marriage? She's from Florida and we know he's from Arkansas.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:46 AM
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How did they meet? Was this an arranged marriage? She's from Florida and we know he's from Arkansas.
On their website it says the story of how they met will be on their website soon.
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:49 AM
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the newspaper article I'd read about this said they met in 2006 at a homeschool conference. And then last night I believe they said her family had traveled through Arkanasas last year and stopped and spent some time with the family. Joshua supposedly told his Dad after they left that she was the one!
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:58 AM
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I predict a April the third baby if they found out how to get beyond the kiss. I also saw the t v show and saw their childish ways, a lot more maturity is going to have to occur between this couple or we will be watching the "DuggarDivorce" show. I saw no relationshipship coping skills and how could there be? Boy sees girl,"lets get married," she says yes, they hold hands and say "I llooovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvve you" a million times. They then proclaim they are waiting for the right moment when they are married for their first kiss. Then daddy Duggar pulls a name out of the hat to see who is going to be the chaperone and it is Jinger who is to young to see the movie rated 18 and over (another first for the couple?)so Josh's brother and sister accompany them to a restaurant .
The reason that they are saving themselves is because Momma Duggar had (perish the thought) "boyfriends" before she married Jim Bob" and that caused a rift between Josh's parents.
Josh's younger brother proclaims "I have never seen people act like that before" and momma and daddy "kiss" for the couple!
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Old 10-07-2008, 10:20 AM
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I especially like how they included links to their wedding registry on their website. Really classy.
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:11 AM
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I am the one that lives in a town over from where the Duggars live.

Why don't you go to their reception on Oct 18th and report back for all of us? Hey - you could get on TV!
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:33 PM
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they have never even kissed? and got married? I dont watch the show but have seen coming attractions for it, Imagine their honeymoon? whoa......
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Old 10-07-2008, 12:46 PM
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uh oh one strike against the new bride her hair looks like its been cut...lol.

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Old 10-07-2008, 01:41 PM
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I know that courtship seems strange to most people but it's actually a pretty cool concept. I think they'll be ok. They are bound together by a strong faith and strong family values.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:48 PM
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I just read their bridal registry. I see she likes red!!! lol
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I think this was just a site for the friends and family ... I don't think they really intended for the whole world to look at their registry, so while it looks tacky, most couples do this website thing nowadays with their registry on it. I wouldn't count them out ... they're young and in love but weren't we all back then? They have their priorities right and I would be shocked to ever see them divorce. I tivo'd it for my son to watch ... I would love to see him skip the whole dating thing and just wait for "the one."
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Old 10-07-2008, 02:52 PM
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Why on earth do they have candy, chips & soda on their wedding registry???
That seems very odd to me.

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Old 10-07-2008, 03:58 PM
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I think this was just a site for the friends and family ... I don't think they really intended for the whole world to look at their registry, so while it looks tacky, most couples do this website thing nowadays with their registry on it. I wouldn't count them out ... they're young and in love but weren't we all back then? They have their priorities right and I would be shocked to ever see them divorce. I tivo'd it for my son to watch ... I would love to see him skip the whole dating thing and just wait for "the one."
If they didn't intend for the 'whole world' to see it then why have a link on the very public Duggar family website?
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:16 PM
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Maybe she'll change her name to Janna now that she's a Duggar.
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Maybe she'll change her name to Janna now that she's a Duggar.
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Old 10-07-2008, 05:12 PM
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Ok, I'll bite. I watched it too. I just thought that in the other seasons, their religion was not discussed a whole lot, but that last night the show was totally preachy. Am I the only one?
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:08 PM
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Ok, I'll bite. I watched it too. I just thought that in the other seasons, their religion was not discussed a whole lot, but that last night the show was totally preachy. Am I the only one?
I think religion has been an ongoing theme throughout. It's part of the reason they have so many children and home school them.
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I have enjoyed watching the Duggar family on TV. They are wholesome, Godly, and have good morals. My husband and I also waited to kiss until our wedding day. I am so glad we did. I like knowing that he never kissed another girl and I never kissed another guy but him. It was a personal choice and the right one for us.
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Old 10-07-2008, 08:55 PM
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Not to sound mean buy I really don't see why these people became so famous for having a ridiculous large family. I know I sound bitchy but right now there are bigger things to care about than these people. Am I missing something here?
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Old 10-07-2008, 09:25 PM
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I predict a April the third baby if they found out how to get beyond the kiss.

Perhaps you've miscalculated?
Married on 9/26 - 3 month = 6/26 + 1 wk = July 3. Not April 3.

That's providing Anna was ovulating close to the marriage date. Regardless, I still predict a baby by Thanksgiving, 2009.
However, if the Duggar children haven't seen a loving and affectionate mom and dad, they may not be the most loving partner with their spouse. Then again, once they get out from under mom and dad's roof, they may go absolutely crazy. I can't imagine being raised in such a sheltered, isolated household.
I just checked out the website again. I found it over the weekend and the wedding photos weren't there yet. Hopefully more will be added soon.

I've been thinking more about Josh being married and out on his own. I wonder if he and Anna will eat normal food? The greater part of what I saw the Duggar family eating was usually casserole type meals. I never saw a meal with meat such as burgers or pork chops. Will Josh stay with wearing the same type clothing that he's worn all his life? Or, will he want to try shopping at retail stores instead of the thrift stores? There's just so many variables with his life that he can now do if he so chooses.

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Old 10-07-2008, 09:25 PM
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Good looking kids. I hope that they have the tools they need to be good to each other and live a long and happy life together with as many or as few children as they feel they can provide and love for.

I think it's really easy to be jaded and cynical because the majority of us have seen the worst in people. I would love to be able to view people and things with a non-clouded view--alas, I have seen and worked with too many dregs of humanity to ever feel innocent again.
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I just have one question to ask did anyone notice that when JimBob said Michelle had previous boyfirends before they were married, does this mean she kissed and had sex with someone else then JimBob. I cannot understand if I saw it right or heard it right, Because Michelle was only 17 when she married JimBob so if she did she was very young. I am assuming Michelle did not come from the same family she is raising or did JimBOb . Also last nite was the first time I saw another family relative JimBOb Niece, who said she would not follow in their footsteps. As anyone else ever seen or heard from the families of Michelle and JimBob. In the end I have stated my feelings about these people, If indeed Jousha held out for his wedding nite and not one single kiss, I totally give him alot of credit, but again not for me, son in the end to eachs his own. Catherine
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Catherine, I believe Jim Bob said....Michele had 2 or 3 boyfriends before we met and it caused her to have a lot of baggage.

And I thought....WTF??? She was 17 when she married you dumbass. How much baggage could she have had? Any "baggage" had to be his. Because he was such a dork, nobody wanted to date him so he was jealous of her"boyfriends".

I'd bet money Michele was a virgin when she married. I'm pretty sure she's said as much. So Jim Bob is all riled up over a few possible smooches. Or who knows, Maybe she was groped. Whatever, get over it Jim Bob.

I do have to say, as odd (to me) as this family is, I really like them. The kids seem really well adjusted. Mom and dad seem to love each other. I think if I met these people, even though I drink and smoke and swear, they'd go out of their way to try and like and welcome me regardless. That alone makes them better people than I.

I do worry about Anna though. I can't imagine that her wedding night was anything short of a fiasco. Joshua, as endearing as he is, is obviously not experienced in matters of making a lady happy. With no points of reference on his side or hers, I'm not sure how it could improve. He doesn't know what to do and she has no idea what she likes so can't help him improve.
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Not to sound mean buy I really don't see why these people became so famous for having a ridiculous large family. I know I sound bitchy but right now there are bigger things to care about than these people. Am I missing something here?

You're right. There are bigger things to care about. That's why this show will succeed. Because it's a haven in a world of turmoil. It's a little bit of fluff in a world of stress. It's 30 minutes of mindless, joyful entertainment.

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Catherine, I believe Jim Bob said....Michele had 2 or 3 boyfriends before we met and it caused her to have a lot of baggage.

And I thought....WTF??? She was 17 when she married you dumbass. How much baggage could she have had? Any "baggage" had to be his. Because he was such a dork, nobody wanted to date him so he was jealous of her"boyfriends".

I'd bet money Michele was a virgin when she married. I'm pretty sure she's said as much. So Jim Bob is all riled up over a few possible smooches. Or who knows, Maybe she was groped. Whatever, get over it Jim Bob.

I do have to say, as odd (to me) as this family is, I really like them. The kids seem really well adjusted. Mom and dad seem to love each other. I think if I met these people, even though I drink and smoke and swear, they'd go out of their way to try and like and welcome me regardless. That alone makes hem better people than I.

I do worry about Anna though. I can't imagine that her wedding night was anything short of a fiasco. Joshua, as endearing as he is, is obviously not experienced in matters of making a lady happy. With no points of reference on his side or hers, I'm not sure how it could improve. He doesn't know what to do and she has no idea what she likes so can't help him improve.
I think they will be fine. So what if they are inexperienced on their wedding night? They can figure things out together which will make them stronger as a couple. At least they don't have to worry about whether they "performed" better than any previous partners! I bet their wedding night was awesome! Quick but awesome! lol They have youth on their side and plenty of time.
I agree that they would be nice to you if you even if they don't agree with your lifestyle. They seem really happy and they all seem well adjusted. That's what a firm foundation will give you.
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I have never seen such a large wedding list in my life. I was astonished to see snacks on the list perhaps they put them on the list because they never had them at home and figure they must cost a fortune. God bless them both and give them the strength to follow their dreams.
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Kathy, seriously, think back to your first time. Was it awesome? I'm guessing you had at least a little experience. Kissing. Hugging. Dry humping. Something. These kids had no experience. Zero. Zilch. None.

And before you answer, please don't tell me your first time [i]was[i] awesome. Unless your first time was with a paid escort who was wise to the ways of the world, and totally in tune with your body.......I'm not buying it. Your first time might have been memorable. It might have even been "special", in an awkward and probaly painful sort of way. But it wasn't awesome. Awesome comes with experience.
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I wish this couple happiness. But, I have to wonder if they really understand what marriage is all about. As for the whole sex issue. I highly doubt that the issue of *satisfaction* will be high on their list. Coming from such a religious background, in their eyes, sex may be just a way to have children, and not for pleasure. I think it takes a very special couple to be married at such a young age, and be able to grow together, usually....as they mature, they grow in different directions! With such a sheltered life, that will add even more pressure....
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Kathy, seriously, think back to your first time. Was it awesome? I'm guessing you had at least a little experience. Kissing. Hugging. Dry humping. Something. These kids had no experience. Zero. Zilch. None.

And before you answer, please don't tell me your first time [i]was[i] awesome. Unless your first time was with a paid escort who was wise to the ways of the world, and totally in tune with your body.......I'm not buying it. Your first time might have been memorable. It might have even been "special", in an awkward and probaly painful sort of way. But it wasn't awesome. Awesome comes with experience.
I'm going to agree with you 100 % on what you said. For me I thought I was going to throw up !!And yes it was in a 'PAINFUL" sort of way .

I wish them the best, and I too thought the reason the chips and junk food was on the list is because he has never had it before, Now he's out of the home he wants to "Taste" the world.
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The Duggars do buy junk food. In the episode where they do their grocery shopping they get cookies and chips.
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You have to remember that the two of them have NOTHING (or maybe very little) to base their first night on. I doubt they've seem movies or TV with that kind of content, they are homeschooled and my guess is that they don't mix much with the rest of the population and they've never done it themselves. So, for them it probably was awesome at that moment and who are we to judge if it really was or wasn't. Will they look back on it and see that it wasn't that great -- maybe, but at the moment, it probably seemed pretty good.

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And before you answer, please don't tell me your first time [i]was[i] awesome. Unless your first time was with a paid escort who was wise to the ways of the world, and totally in tune with your body.......I'm not buying it. Your first time might have been memorable. It might have even been "special", in an awkward and probaly painful sort of way. But it wasn't awesome. Awesome comes with experience.
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You're right. There are bigger things to care about. That's why this show will succeed. Because it's a haven in a world of turmoil. It's a little bit of fluff in a world of stress. It's 30 minutes of mindless, joyful entertainment.

That's what you're missing.
Well Thanks I will have to give it a try becauce I could use a little Fluff. LOL
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Why don't you go to their reception on Oct 18th and report back for all of us? Hey - you could get on TV!
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Well, I don't know them, we have seen them out once or twice. I think I'll skip crashing their wedding reception, lol. I certainly don't want to show up on their t.v. show either, lol.

For everyone that watched the show, did you guys find it quite obvious that all the constant hand holding, staring at each other, etc., it was just about all they could do NOT to get a room?! LOL. While I think it's admirable to 'court' like that, and in these times if you can remain a virgin on your wedding night, that is saying something. There is so much peer pressure these days; but I don't see anything wrong with not being one either on your wedding night. Most people don't get married at 17 and 20 anymore. Life happens. I sure do hope they aren't getting married just to have a license to get busy, KWIM?! I would never want to send that message to my kids anyway. As far as the kids not knowing anything about sex though, I was really surprised at how much the kids and parents talked about on this show. I didn't really get the impression that they do not know about the birds & bees, I was surprised at how openly the kids talked actually. I'll rewatch it. I too thought both Josh and Anna were extremely immature acting for 20 year olds. I do think they will probably have a long marriage though--Anna's parents seem to be just as old fashioned/old fashioned values (nothing wrong with them I might add) as Josh's. Seems like they are probably a good match. I too wondered why in the world do they have all this food on the wedding registry?! Strange. Did you guys also notice that there are a lot of sewing items--seam rippers, etc.--on the registry?! Now that I have never seen either! Convenient for them that the Duggar's own a house they can just have. Wonderful for all the kids if they have the same set up, ya know?! Ha ha. Not having to struggle as newlyweds will help them I'm sure have much more wedded bliss.

Didn't Jim Bob say that, "He and Michelle did kiss before they got married," and then he went on to say that they went too far... Now, I wasn't sure what he was implying there. Who knows what 'going too far' is with those two, ha ha. If it comes back on again, I'll rewatch to see exactly what was meant by that if possible. Anyone else hear that? Did I just take it out of context? I don't think he was implying they had intercourse, I just thought he meant they did 'other things' besides kissing. But that is just what I thought he meant so I may be wayyyy off base.

I'm betting also, along with you guys, that Josh and Anna have a baby asap. It's pretty much inevitable unless they are practising birth control.

Did any of you guys see the Mother's Day episode of Today where Michelle announced she was pregnant again? Did you guys hear the comment made by Josh and see the looks from the other kids (the kids did not look happy--I think that someone mentioned that also in another post)? Josh's comment was something like, yes, gee seeing it's been 9 months and all (it was derrogatory like that--I'm not quoting him word for word). It was a little uncomfortable it seemed. Also, didn't the girls mention that they 'watch the calendar' regularly to determine when their mom is going to be pregnant again? I took that to mean that Michelle must be using the calendar to determine ovulation. Maybe they just meant to determine the every 9 months, ha ha. Did anyone else catch that? I had always thought they believed if it happens, it happens. Hmmmm.... I'm glad this show is on every week now. Should be interesting to see more of their lifestyle.
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I have to check out this jive show. When and where do I find it?
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Did any of you guys see the Mother's Day episode of Today where Michelle announced she was pregnant again? Did you guys hear the comment made by Josh and see the looks from the other kids (the kids did not look happy--I think that someone mentioned that also in another post)? Josh's comment was something like, yes, gee seeing it's been 9 months and all (it was derrogatory like that--I'm not quoting him word for word). It was a little uncomfortable it seemed. Also, didn't the girls mention that they 'watch the calendar' regularly to determine when their mom is going to be pregnant again? I took that to mean that Michelle must be using the calendar to determine ovulation. Maybe they just meant to determine the every 9 months, ha ha. Did anyone else catch that? I had always thought they believed if it happens, it happens. Hmmmm.... I'm glad this show is on every week now. Should be interesting to see more of their lifestyle.

About the girls watching the calendar, I took that to mean the girls watch the calendar to see if mom's period is late and could possibly be pregnant.
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I think it is kind of odd, that people are actually bothered that they didn't kiss and that they saved themselves for marriage....seriously, why is there marriage doomed to fail because of this?
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There are two wedding pictures on there now!!! Cute!
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Genichols, you could be right about the period/calendar thing. I do find it odd though that Michelle would just leave the calendar out for all to see with her period dates on it or that she would be sharing that with her girls. That is weird--who discusses that?! Ha ha. With that many girls in the house, you'd think they would all have their own calendar though, lol.
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Maybe the girls know because they all have their cycles around the same time. Don't women who live together tend to get on the dame cycles somewhat? Not sure just an idea.
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I have to check out this jive show. When and where do I find it?
Ok, I found the show..and after watching it I must say they come across as a nice family. They have a beautiful, big home-clean too. The parents seem to have good parenting skills and the kids are very well behaved. Having that many kids is not for me but I think they look like they are pulling it off much better than some families!
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I swear their home looks like a motel I stayed in yrs ago somewhere between n.c and ny when I was going to visit people in n.y. It was around 1979 and I cant remember what state it was in . Just remember the lobby looks like their living room.
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