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Old 11-01-2008, 07:44 PM
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Need serious help with flag.

I am looking to find a American flag that is folded and is the size that is put on a coffin. To tell you a little bit why?

My FIL died a year ago and he had a military funeral with a flag that was given to my DH because he is the oldest of 4 siblings. At the funeral I was holding the flag for my DH and my SIL came and took it out of my hands. I didnt know why at the time but she took it and put it in a case and brought it to her house and said that the siblings could each have it in their home for 6 months. well when her six months was up my Dh asked his other sister to get it for him.

She got it and its been in my house for the last 6 months. My sil that took it from me wants it back in her house(the other 2 siblings dont want it) My DH says he is keeping it , it was given to him and its the only thing besides his fathers name that he has. Well my sil is flipping out to my other sil that took it out of her house that its her fault.And giving her a hard time. My husband will not give up the flag and me and my sil want to get another flag and give it to my sil so we can keep the peace in the family.

We are too old for this , does anyone know where we can get another flag?

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Old 11-01-2008, 08:26 PM
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You want cloth, 5X9. Not nylon, and although you aren't thinking of flying it outside, they are not meant for that, nor will cloth hold up.

I think they run about $50ish, of course it depends on where you get it. Start locally with a business that does signs, banners, poles, etc. I am sure too, you can find 1 online.

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Old 11-01-2008, 09:13 PM
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think you can just google casket flag and should get results, i came across alot when I was looking for a flag case for my grandpa's flag they should say casket size or something like that too
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Old 11-01-2008, 09:21 PM
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njfl - I do a lot of care packages for our military, and in return (though not expected), I have received several US flags that have been flown over various bases in Iraq or Afghanistan. These flags are typically flown for a day and then folded up in the traditional military fashion. I would be more than happy to send you one of these flags, if you provide me an address.

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Old 11-01-2008, 09:48 PM
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Wait, are you trying to give her a flag that did not come from the ceremony where her father was buried? Are you trying to give her another flag to just keep her quiet? Sorry, I think that's wrong. I would think she wants the flag because it was part of her father as well as your DH's, not just any flag that you are trying to pass off to "keep the peace"

Your DH should share it with his siblings as was agreed.

Just my opinion.....right or wrong.
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Old 11-01-2008, 09:55 PM
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My FIL died a year ago and he had a military funeral with a flag that was given to my DH because he is the oldest of 4 siblings

This flag seems to have been presented directly to OP's son for the reason provided above.

The sister took matters into her own hands by creating the 6 month rule.

I see no reason why he should have to forgo the flag every six months, just because she didn't like the decision to present the son with the flag.

I am the 2nd oldest of six kids. I have often felt slighted for not being the "first born" but I still agree with what the original decision was in this case. The flag belongs with the person to whom it was presented.
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Old 11-01-2008, 09:59 PM
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Wait, are you trying to give her a flag that did not come from the ceremony where her father was buried? Are you trying to give her another flag to just keep her quiet? Sorry, I think that's wrong. I would think she wants the flag because it was part of her father as well as your DH's, not just any flag that you are trying to pass off to "keep the peace"

Your DH should share it with his siblings as was agreed.

Just my opinion.....right or wrong.
First of all it wasnt agreed to share it. It was given to my husband and she took it without him knowing about it.

If you knew this sil you would know what me and her sister are doing is for the best. nancy
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:01 PM
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njfl - I do a lot of care packages for our military, and in return (though not expected), I have received several US flags that have been flown over various bases in Iraq or Afghanistan. These flags are typically flown for a day and then folded up in the traditional military fashion. I would be more than happy to send you one of these flags, if you provide me an address.

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I PMed you. Thank you so much. I realize some people are not going to agree with this but you have to know the family to understand why we want to do this. nancy
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:04 PM
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My FIL died a year ago and he had a military funeral with a flag that was given to my DH because he is the oldest of 4 siblings

This flag seems to have been presented directly to OP's son for the reason provided above.

The sister took matters into her own hands by creating the 6 month rule.

I see no reason why he should have to forego the flag every six months, just because she didn't like the decision to present the son with the flag.

I am the 2nd oldest of six kids. I have often felt slighted for not being the "first born" but I still agree with what the original decision was in this case.
Thank you very much for understanding . Its like you know the family and understand why we want this to happen. My husband is the oldest of 4 siblings and has the same name as him and our son has his name to. Thanks again for the support. nancy
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:05 PM
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First of all it wasnt agreed to share it. It was given to my husband and she took it without him knowing about it.

If you knew this sil you would know what me and her sister are doing is for the best. nancy
You are right, I don't know your family situation. However, if other siblings want to share in this very special memory of their father's passing your DH should be fair and allow them to be part of it.

Yes, it was given to him as the oldest son. But this is more of a symbolic gesture as the eldest. I don't think that your FIL that has passed would want it to be a bone of contention between the siblings.

But again, this is your family and not mine. You posted here and I'm giving you my opinion. By giving us the whole story you open the situation up for discussion. I guess if you didn't want other opinions you could have just asked where to buy the flag.
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Old 11-01-2008, 10:13 PM
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You are right, I don't know your family situation. However, if other siblings want to share in this very special memory of their father's passing your DH should be fair and allow them to be part of it.

Yes, it was given to him as the oldest son. But this is more of a symbolic gesture as the eldest. I don't think that your FIL that has passed would want it to be a bone of contention between the siblings.

But again, this is your family and not mine. You posted here and I'm giving you my opinion. By giving us the whole story you open the situation up for discussion. I guess if you didn't want other opinions you could have just asked where to buy the flag.
I do appreciate your opinon. your right If I didnt want to hear any negetive views I should of just asked for the flag. nancy
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Old 11-01-2008, 11:07 PM
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I attended my uncle's military burial last March. The flag was presented to the son, not the daughter who was older.
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Old 11-02-2008, 05:50 AM
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My husband got his father's flag because his older brother was not married. We have three kids and now two grandchildren. We will pass it on to one of them.


I had a friend that worked at a funeral home. He would give me casket flags for our school's flag pole about once a year.
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:22 AM
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I have my mothers and my grandfather's flag here at the house.

Two suggestions I have is:

Contacting the VFW for help in finding the correct flag and having it folded to put in a case. When I got my mother's flag it had came loose a little bit and the VFW helped me get it folded tighter so it would fit. In most cases they are also the one who supply the color guard for the Military funerals. Atleast where I am from.

Contacting the National Cememtary where he was buried. Both my Mom and Grandfather were buried in the National Cememtary and they may know who you can contact to get another flag.

If it were me I might even speak with the VFW about actually presenting her with a flag, it might make it seem more official.

From someone who has 2 flags I can honestly tell you if someone took one of my flags and tried to pass off a store bought copy I would be pretty upset. It is not the actual flag she is wanting it is the symbol it represents. That flag was the actual one used in the ceremony and represents her father. But as I said earlier maybe if you can get the VFW or someone to make it something special just for her it might work. Does that make sense?
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I have my mothers and my grandfather's flag here at the house.

Two suggestions I have is:

Contacting the VFW for help in finding the correct flag and having it folded to put in a case. When I got my mother's flag it had came loose a little bit and the VFW helped me get it folded tighter so it would fit. In most cases they are also the one who supply the color guard for the Military funerals. Atleast where I am from.

Contacting the National Cememtary where he was buried. Both my Mom and Grandfather were buried in the National Cememtary and they may know who you can contact to get another flag.

If it were me I might even speak with the VFW about actually presenting her with a flag, it might make it seem more official.

From someone who has 2 flags I can honestly tell you if someone took one of my flags and tried to pass off a store bought copy I would be pretty upset. It is not the actual flag she is wanting it is the symbol it represents. That flag was the actual one used in the ceremony and represents her father. But as I said earlier maybe if you can get the VFW or someone to make it something special just for her it might work. Does that make sense?

The VFW, American Legion, and each active duty branch can provide honors. However, the veteran is only entitled to honors ONCE, and the op's fil already had his. Although I suppose the VFW or American Legion would do the nice thing and provide again if someone asked.

The National Cemetery system will most likely refer the op to the funeral home, since they do not have flags to provide. Again, like honors, each veteran is entitled to ONE flag.

I would hope the family could come to an amiacable decision and I, too, would not be happy to be duped over this.

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Thank you everyone for listening. nancy
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