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Old 11-05-2008, 07:58 AM
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We finally have a President that will change things in this country. President Obama may God give you the wisdom and patience to help mold this country into a place where EVERYONE has an opportunity for the American dream again.

I hope this brings us together. We are a family and we are all heading down the same road we just have different ideas about how to get there.

We are a family. God Bless America!
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:19 AM
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Could not have said it better myself !!

There will be bumps along the way he is inheriting some major problems, but he will Unite us he already has.

This was the first time ever that I saw people dancing and celebrating in the streets. I asked my 86 yr old mother if she remembers people doing this ever and she doesn't.

I am proud to say I finally worked on a Campaign that won so now I have under my belt one losing campaign from 1996 and now a winning campaign while this campaign paid me coin of the heart it was the best payment of all to see him win !
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:23 AM
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:31 AM
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May America be blessed! Change is a wonderful thing. We should embrace it and make it something we will be proud to hand to our children. Today could be the start of something incredible. It is surely history in the making. Fifty years ago, the president to be couldn't even have used the same drinking fountain as the vice president to be. When it is put in that perspective, it is an amazing thing, isn't it?
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Change is a wonderful thing and so overdue. However yes Newly Appointed President Elect Mr. Barack OBama certainly does have a long hard rode in front of him. However I have been confident we all will ride out the storms that may come in our way, however the end results will make this great nation of ours my home America a wonderful blessing to live in.. Peace to ... Catherine
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While I totally will support our new President, I sincerely hope that we will not see further division among racial lines within our Country.

I know we are all hoping for unity, but from the outset of the announcement that he had won, what I saw was a throng of racially motivated talks on TV.

I want to see us move forward as a Country, not go backwards.

Just my observation, and one that I hope doesn't offend. May not be politically correct, but I am wondering if other people felt the same way, or have the same fears.

For instance, if some of these crazies try to off Obama simply because he is black, the racial tension could explode. I just don't want to see that ever, ever happen. We've come to far.

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Old 11-05-2008, 08:56 AM
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:00 AM
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While I totally will support our new President, I sincerely hope that we will not see further division among racial lines within our Country.

I know we are all hoping for unity, but from the outset of the announcement that he had won, what I saw was a throne of racially motivated talks on TV.

I want to see us move forward as a Country, not go backwards.

Just my observation, and one that I hope doesn't offend. May not be politically correct, but I am wondering if other people felt the same way, or have the same fears.

For instance, if some of these crazies try to off Obama simply because he is black, the racial tension could explode. I just don't want to see that ever, ever happen. We've come to far.
Unfortunately, I worry about the same thing.I have already seen a few get a big head over this (not here) and that could cause some tension.
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Please please pray for no more tension only peace, we as a nation so deserve this .There is so place like America the beautiful.. Peace.. Catherine
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:21 AM
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While I totally will support our new President, I sincerely hope that we will not see further division among racial lines within our Country.

I know we are all hoping for unity, but from the outset of the announcement that he had won, what I saw was a throng of racially motivated talks on TV.

I want to see us move forward as a Country, not go backwards.

Just my observation, and one that I hope doesn't offend. May not be politically correct, but I am wondering if other people felt the same way, or have the same fears.

For instance, if some of these crazies try to off Obama simply because he is black, the racial tension could explode. I just don't want to see that ever, ever happen. We've come to far.

DH & I were talking about this very thing last night. During the whole campaign they stated over and over again it was not about race. But as soon as he won, everything became about race. Very interesting indeed.

I will support him as president and hope for the best, but while everyone is celebrating, just remember 48% of the country did not vote for him. There is dissappointment today as well.

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For instance, if some of these crazies try to off Obama simply because he is black, the racial tension could explode. I just don't want to see that ever, ever happen. We've come to far.


I pray that nothing negative happens to Obama simply because of his race. I can't even believe that it may be an issue, but it is a sad truth. A friend of ours thinks that an attempt will be made by a black man because Obama is not black enough. I too don't want to see anything happen to him, as we would regress so far and we have come a long way over the past 50 years.

Charlie Gibson summed it up well when he said that "All men are created equal" and this historical, defining moment should reflect that.
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I pray that nothing negative happens to Obama simply because of his race. I can't even believe that it may be an issue, but it is a sad truth. .

Yep, it is. Remember, not even a week before the election a plan to end his life was thwarted


Arrests in Plan to Kill Obama and Black Schoolchildren - Topix

White supremists have an issue with blacks, yes. But they have an even bigger issue with mixed (black/white).

It scares me to no end, and I am scared to think that we may end up seeing another JFK incident during this term.

At the very least, I think we are going to see a bigger uprising of the anarchy, white supremists groups (especially in the Southern States). Which is what I have been afraid of all along. Again, leading to more racial tension.

I can't imagine the fighting/rioting that might be going on in our Prisons right now.
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:04 AM
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While I totally will support our new President, I sincerely hope that we will not see further division among racial lines within our Country.

I know we are all hoping for unity, but from the outset of the announcement that he had won, what I saw was a throng of racially motivated talks on TV.

I want to see us move forward as a Country, not go backwards.

Just my observation, and one that I hope doesn't offend. May not be politically correct, but I am wondering if other people felt the same way, or have the same fears.

For instance, if some of these crazies try to off Obama simply because he is black, the racial tension could explode. I just don't want to see that ever, ever happen. We've come to far.

I think what we all need to keep in mind is that if it had been Hillary that won, or even Palin got VP, we would have been bombarded with women motivated talks.

It was interesting to see how the voting broke down. The black voter turnout was near equal to what we saw in the last two elections, so it wasn't that there was a huge swing because of that. What changed the election is the under 30 vote, and the 30-40s white vote.....but, we have to remember that this section of the public is a little more "politically correct" when it comes to race.

I think it is valid to say that there are crazies out there and it is sad to think that this day and age that it would be racially motivate....but, sometimes it is nothing more than just craziness...look at Reagan, Kennedy, and even the likes of John Lennon. Sometimes crazy is just crazy.
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:18 AM
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DH & I were talking about this very thing last night. During the whole campaign they stated over and over again it was not about race. But as soon as he won, everything became about race. Very interesting indeed.

I will support him as president and hope for the best, but while everyone is celebrating, just remember 48% of the country did not vote for him. There is dissappointment today as well.

Lisa

You got that right! I will say that I am disappointed that Obama won. It has nothing to do with what color he is (I go to a black church). He's too liberal for me and my views/beliefs. While McCain wasn't the best choice, he's closer to my values than what Obama is.

I will say that I am proud to live in a country where we are free to choose who our President will be.

By the looks of this thread, I'm in the minority here.
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DH & I were talking about this very thing last night. During the whole campaign they stated over and over again it was not about race. But as soon as he won, everything became about race. Very interesting indeed.

I will support him as president and hope for the best, but while everyone is celebrating, just remember 48% of the country did not vote for him. There is dissappointment today as well.

Lisa
All I can say is "it scares me to death to think what our future holds. And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with race.
But I do fail to see how the best interest of our whole intire Country is in the heart of a President who refuses to say the Pledge of Allegience to the VERY Country that he has been elected to run.

All I can say is "GOD, PLEASE HELP US ALL".
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DH & I were talking about this very thing last night. During the whole campaign they stated over and over again it was not about race. But as soon as he won, everything became about race. Very interesting indeed.

I will support him as president and hope for the best, but while everyone is celebrating, just remember 48% of the country did not vote for him. There is dissappointment today as well.

Lisa
you know?? I felt this way this morning, seeing all the people on talk shows saying how great it is we have a black president now. I think this is being hyped up by the media, and not so much by the President elect. At least not publicly. We will have to see what his actions say, I guess?? It is almost like people are taking his win as their own. By that I mean that they feel they, too have won, and in a way, they have, but, I would hate for anyone to try to use another's success as their own. I liken it to a spouse wearing their spouse's career/success on their sleeve. It's wonderful when someone is so successful, but, we all have to carve our own successes and claim them.


I'm sure that did not come out as I intend it. I think the bottom line here is that the racial divide will only occur if we allow it.
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All I can say is "it scares me to death to think what our future holds. And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with race.
But I do fail to see how the best interest of our whole intire Country is in the heart of a President who refuses to say the Pledge of Allegience to the VERY Country that he has been elected to run.

I could not agree more. Today is a sad day for me. I fear for our country's future
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You got that right! I will say that I am disappointed that Obama won. It has nothing to do with what color he is (I go to a black church). He's too liberal for me and my views/beliefs. While McCain wasn't the best choice, he's closer to my values than what Obama is.

I will say that I am proud to live in a country where we are free to choose who our President will be.

By the looks of this thread, I'm in the minority here.

I agree with you. I am disappointed that Obama won. Obama will have to prove himself before he gets any of my support.
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Old 11-05-2008, 12:57 PM
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All I can say is "it scares me to death to think what our future holds. And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with race.
But I do fail to see how the best interest of our whole intire Country is in the heart of a President who refuses to say the Pledge of Allegience to the VERY Country that he has been elected to run.

All I can say is "GOD, PLEASE HELP US ALL".
Oh geez, the pledge thing is false:
snopes.com: Who Is Barack Obama?

What do you want to bet Obama can spell "entire" and "allegiance" correctly?
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:08 PM
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Oh geez, the pledge thing is false:
snopes.com: Who Is Barack Obama?

What do you want to bet Obama can spell "entire" and "allegiance" correctly?
I was going to reply to that poster about the Pledge. That was not true. Just like people saying he "refused" to wear a flag pin.

I am VERY happy Obama won. I feel he will always do his best for this country. I hope that we can now get on with things and get this country turned around. That should be our number 1 priority.

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I could not agree more. Today is a sad day for me. I fear for our country's future
I agree. If I had to try to describe how I'm feeling today it would be an overwhelming mixture of anxiety, fear and sadness

I believe America has made a horrible mistake
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Just some food for thought....

From Jon McCain's speech last night....

"I urge all Americans ... I urge all Americans who supported me to join me in not just congratulating him, but offering our next president our goodwill and earnest effort to find ways to come together to find the necessary compromises to bridge our differences and help restore our prosperity, defend our security in a dangerous world, and leave our children and grandchildren a stronger, better country than we inherited.

Whatever our differences, we are fellow Americans. And please believe me when I say no association has ever meant more to me than that.

It is natural. It's natural, tonight, to feel some disappointment. But tomorrow, we must move beyond it and work together to get our country moving again."
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I agree. If I had to try to describe how I'm feeling today it would be an overwhelming mixture of anxiety, fear and sadness

I believe America has made a horrible mistake

I feel exactly the same......my heart is so heavy......I have to disagree with a poster....America so doesnt deserve anything...We have turned our backs on God, kill millions of innocent children every year, Americans have no respect for the flag or what it stands for or the people who fought so that some have the freedom of speech...to run down this country or to burn the flag..George Washington would turn over in his grave....that is just the begininng and we think we deserve Peace....We will get what we deserve but I dont believe we will like it very well....Yes I am saying all this from a Christian perspective, so I dont expect anyone to agree with me...but those are my views..I believe God has been more than merciful to the USA but the day we turn our backs on Israel,(which Obama isnt really fond of) we are finished....Sherri
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Does anyone believe that Pakistan bombing Israel right after the outcome of our election, has anything to do with Obama being chosen president?

Someone told me that Obama will not even utter the word Israel, that he does not like Israel and has plans to remove Israel as an allie?

Has anyone heard this?

This same person said that Palestine is not worried now, because before Israel had the USA to back them up.

A part of me says then why didn't Palestine wait until after Obama is sworn in? But I have no clue..

Maybe I should do a snopes search before open mouth/insert foot happens.

ETA: (Duh, Sherri! I just finished reading your post! You must have heard this as well?)

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Does anyone believe that Pakistan bombing Israel right after the outcome of our election, has anything to do with Obama being chosen president?

Someone told me that Obama will not even utter the word Israel, that he does not like Israel and has plans to remove Israel as an allie?

Has anyone heard this?

This same person said that Pakistan is not worried now, because before Israel had the USA to back them up.

A part of me says then why didn't Pakistan wait until after Obama is sworn in? But I have no clue..

Maybe I should do a snopes search before open mouth/insert foot happens.

ETA: (Duh, Sherri! I just finished reading your post! You must have heard this as well?)
Why are our enemies so happy?????? Thats one thing that scares me .......

World hails Obama's 'brilliant' victory

VOA News - Much Of Arab World Rejoices Over Obama Election

The French, Arabs, Phillipinos, Syrians, Egyptians,Lebanese and here is a quote that really scares me.....

Uraib Rantawi, director of the Al-Quds Center for Political Studies in Amman, Jordan, says that many Arabs and many Arab governments are pleased by the Obama victory.

"It was a great win for Mr. Obama in yesterday's elections, for some Arab countries and people, especially the Palestinians, the Syrians, even the Jordanians," he said. "I think they have welcomed this great victory from the democrats and Obama.

The palestinians are happy???? What about Israel.....I am afraid if we turn our backs on Israel we are doomed....and Obama isnt a fan of the Israelites.

This is why I am scared?????
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All the news is about a Black man winning and nothing about the best man winning, or most qualified man winning!!!!

I was not for Obama and it had nothing to do with his color. I would have voted for Colin Powell or another more qualified black person!


I agree with LBeadle ,Amy and Barb.
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I think what we all need to keep in mind is that if it had been Hillary that won, or even Palin got VP, we would have been bombarded with women motivated talks.

It was interesting to see how the voting broke down. The black voter turnout was near equal to what we saw in the last two elections, so it wasn't that there was a huge swing because of that. What changed the election is the under 30 vote, and the 30-40s white vote.....but, we have to remember that this section of the public is a little more "politically correct" when it comes to race.

I think it is valid to say that there are crazies out there and it is sad to think that this day and age that it would be racially motivate....but, sometimes it is nothing more than just craziness...look at Reagan, Kennedy, and even the likes of John Lennon. Sometimes crazy is just crazy.
Hey Killiiii, Do you have a link to the gathered information that has the analysis on the voters (demographics)?
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All the news is about a Black man winning and nothing about the best man winning, or most qualified man winning!!!!

I was not for Obama and it had nothing to do with his color. I would have voted for Colin Powell or another more qualified black person!


I agree with LBeadle ,Amy and Barb.
It would have been the same thing if Hillary would have became president.The news would have been all over the fact of the first female president instead of the the best qualified or whatever.
And all the men who hate liberated woman would be beating their wives even more.
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All the news is about a Black man winning and nothing about the best man winning, or most qualified man winning!!!!

I was not for Obama and it had nothing to do with his color. I would have voted for Colin Powell or another more qualified black person!


I agree with LBeadle ,Amy and Barb.
I agree also. He was/is less qualified. He spoke well and told people what they wanted to hear. Soon it will be time to see if he is qualified, and if he can do even half of what he said.

It IS about race, no matter how some decry it. Of course, it's ok for some to say that, but not for others.

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I agree with you. I am disappointed that Obama won. Obama will have to prove himself before he gets any of my support.
I feel exactly the same.
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I feel exactly the same......my heart is so heavy......I have to disagree with a poster....America so doesnt deserve anything...We have turned our backs on God, kill millions of innocent children every year, Americans have no respect for the flag or what it stands for or the people who fought so that some have the freedom of speech...to run down this country or to burn the flag..George Washington would turn over in his grave....that is just the begininng and we think we deserve Peace....We will get what we deserve but I dont believe we will like it very well....Yes I am saying all this from a Christian perspective, so I dont expect anyone to agree with me...but those are my views..I believe God has been more than merciful to the USA but the day we turn our backs on Israel,(which Obama isnt really fond of) we are finished....Sherri
My sentiments exactly. We have turned our backs on God and with Democratic control we certainly aren't going to please him. I expect punishment of some sort!
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:41 PM
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President Obama is a Good man. He believes that all of us should have a chance not just the rich CEOs and executives.

He has absolutely NO ties to ANY corporation, to the oil industry, to the industries that manufacture war machines and the corporations that clean up after wars. He has no ties to the auto industry, the banking industry or the food industry.

The Wolves are finally out of the henhouse. For the last eight years the only policies that the govt approved of and most of the legislation they enacted were bottom line so they could personally profit financially.

There is NOTHING to be afraid of. He is a good man who wants to see everyone succeed. He is not going to take your hard earned money and give it to bums. He is not going to let the Jewish people be massacred. He is not a "Manchurian" Islamic candidate.

He is a hard working educated man who is religious, who loves his family and his country.

He wants to see everyone get the same opportunities. As many people of color he may have been told his whole life by everyone even his family that a colored man could not be President and he made it happen.

I am proud and full of excitement and encouragement and hope and faith for the future of America.

And if you are a regular working class person who has been working your ass off for years struggling to get ahead while your boss and higher ups kept making more and more and getting richer off the sweat and blood of your brow then you should be happy finally the tables will turn back to the days when hard work paid off.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:45 PM
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President Obama is a Good man. He believes that all of us should have a chance not just the rich CEOs and executives.

He has absolutely NO ties to ANY corporation, to the oil industry, to the industries that manufacture war machines and the corporations that clean up after wars. He has no ties to the auto industry, the banking industry or the food industry.

The Wolves are finally out of the henhouse. For the last eight years the only policies that the govt approved of and most of the legislation they enacted were bottom line so they could personally profit financially.

There is NOTHING to be afraid of. He is a good man who wants to see everyone succeed. He is not going to take your hard earned money and give it to bums. He is not going to let the Jewish people be massacred. He is not a "Manchurian" Islamic candidate.

He is a hard working educated man who is religious, who loves his family and his country.

He wants to see everyone get the same opportunities. As many people of color he may have been told his whole life by everyone even his family that a colored man could not be President and he made it happen.

I am proud and full of excitement and encouragement and hope and faith for the future of America.

And if you are a regular working class person who has been working your ass off for years struggling to get ahead while your boss and higher ups kept making more and more and getting richer off the sweat and blood of your brow then you should be happy finally the tables will turn back to the days when hard work paid off.
I guess if people say it over and over and hear it enough they'll start to believe it.
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:46 PM
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My sentiments exactly. We have turned our backs on God and with Democratic control we certainly aren't going to please him. I expect punishment of some sort!
I feel so sorry for all of you who have such a cruel and uncaring God. My God, as I was always taught, is a loving, kind , and merciful God. I cannot for the life of me believe that as Christian person you honestly believe God is going to "punish" the United States of America. It's amazing that I go to church every single weekend since I was a little child and have not been told that we were gonna be punished for who we vote in as president. If I had, I would be finding a new church.
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President Obama is a Good man. He believes that all of us should have a chance not just the rich CEOs and executives.

He has absolutely NO ties to ANY corporation, to the oil industry, to the industries that manufacture war machines and the corporations that clean up after wars. He has no ties to the auto industry, the banking industry or the food industry.

The Wolves are finally out of the henhouse. For the last eight years the only policies that the govt approved of and most of the legislation they enacted were bottom line so they could personally profit financially.

There is NOTHING to be afraid of. He is a good man who wants to see everyone succeed. He is not going to take your hard earned money and give it to bums. He is not going to let the Jewish people be massacred. He is not a "Manchurian" Islamic candidate.

He is a hard working educated man who is religious, who loves his family and his country.

He wants to see everyone get the same opportunities. As many people of color he may have been told his whole life by everyone even his family that a colored man could not be President and he made it happen.

I am proud and full of excitement and encouragement and hope and faith for the future of America.

And if you are a regular working class person who has been working your ass off for years struggling to get ahead while your boss and higher ups kept making more and more and getting richer off the sweat and blood of your brow then you should be happy finally the tables will turn back to the days when hard work paid off.
I have to disagree with you on a few points. First of all, we do all have a chance. This is the United States of America. Why do you think so many foreigners want to come here??? Because they know they have a chance here. I don't see how people can get motivated when they are coddled. I believe people in need should be helped, but, we need to define "need" a bit better, and education is KEY!!!!

I read an article on yahoo today....it basically said that the Democrats that helped him get in own his a$$. If you think for a second he has no ties, oh my, I strongly disagree there. He is a junior senator getting ready to play ball with the big boys. Think of all the big names that helped propel him to where he is..... Ted Kennedy, Oprah Winfrey, and so on and so forth. He knows how much they helped him, and knows how much they can hurt him.

This is, of course, just my take on it. I will give him the chance he deserves.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:02 PM
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wow. this thread is simply - wow.

welcome to our world for the past 8 years.
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wow. this thread is simply - wow.

welcome to our world for the past 8 years.
AHHH yes Jaded!! Oh how I agree with you!!! Some of the replies I read all I can say is WOW! also!
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:14 PM
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wow. this thread is simply - wow.

welcome to our world for the past 8 years.
You have spoken my thoughts as well.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:23 PM
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My sentiments exactly. We have turned our backs on God and with Democratic control we certainly aren't going to please him. I expect punishment of some sort!
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:27 PM
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While I did not vote for him, not due to skin color, but due to politics, I realize he will be my next president, and I do support him on his journey. That's all I can do at this point. I hope all of you who think he is so wonderful, and ready for the position are RIGHT. As of Jan. 20th, he's all we've got. God Please Bless America....
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Linny,

He's not all we've got. We have Biden too.

Does that make you feel better?

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Linny,

He's not all we've got. We have Biden too.

Does that make you feel better?


you should be thankful that I have an awesome sense of humor.....
That did make me laugh out loud.
Unfortunately, after a second thought, I think I just puked in my mouth.....
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Someone told me that Obama will not even utter the word Israel, that he does not like Israel and has plans to remove Israel as an allie?
Obama received 78% of the Jewish vote to McCain’s 21%. It looks to me like the Jewish community has done their homework regarding Obama’s position on Israel and not gone with the I heard from someone who heard from someone who heard.....

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It is interesting to note that the sentiment that God is going to punish the US for voting Democrat is basically what the pastor said about AIDS being sent to punish and 9/11 being punishment for actions abroad. Is there a difference?

I don't believe that God punishes a group of people like that. Certainly not for having someone other than a Republican in office. What an asshat idea. It is a weird thought and arrogant to boot.

Wow is right.

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Hey Killiiii, Do you have a link to the gathered information that has the analysis on the voters (demographics)?

I was watching Fox News when I typed that. They were going state by state -- I will see if they have the breakdown and post it....
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:18 AM
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Here are the exit polls that CNN has...

Local Exit Polls - Election Center 2008 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

There's 7 pages to flip through.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:31 AM
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It is interesting to note that the sentiment that God is going to punish the US for voting Democrat is basically what the pastor said about AIDS being sent to punish and 9/11 being punishment for actions abroad. Is there a difference?

I don't believe that God punishes a group of people like that. Certainly not for having someone other than a Republican in office. What an asshat idea. It is a weird thought and arrogant to boot.

Wow is right.
Well said, usnamom.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:33 AM
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Well said, usnamom.
I agree. Well said.
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wow. this thread is simply - wow.

welcome to our world for the past 8 years.
Jaded - you are acting shocked by this? I've been waiting for this....

Don't you remember this board when Bush took office a 2nd time - or after 9/11 and we went to war? I said one bad thing about his administration and I was called the following -

Unpatriotic
Un-American
As bad as the terrorists
Disrespectful to the Office of the Presidency
By not supporting our Commander and Chief, I was disrespecting the troops
Told to just leave the country if I didn't like it

And a host of many other things. I thought it was hateful and ridiculous then, and think the same now. All of these people are entitled to their opinions - and in the spirit of free speech, they have the right to express them. I don't think that being disappointed about the way they election went is "Un-American" or being worried if Obama will be a successful leader is "Unpatriotic" -- it's someone’s actions that makes them these thing -- or their lack of action.

What I find sad about the whole thing is that these people that use words like "fear" or "punishment" are missing out on a opportunity - or at the very least looking for a place to lay blame really early in the game. Our country is at a crossroads, and just like our elders did during the Great Depression or World War II, or heck even as far back as when our founding fathers were putting together this country, the success of our society doesn't lie in the hands of who sits in the Oval Office, but in the hands of the people. Education, the Environment, the Economy....it doesn’t matter...the change starts in our homes.

Today you either become part of the process and try and make things better, or you don't. I didn't vote for George Bush and I make no secret that I didn't care for him and still don't. But, in a strange way, I think some of those people that called me names had a bit of a point -- maybe if I hadn't of "checked out" and spent less time being critical and more time embracing the role that *I* play in relationship to the success of our chosen leaders, then maybe, just maybe things might have been a little different these past 8 years...even in the most tiny way.

So basically what it comes down to is -- think and say whatever you like, that is part of being a patriotic American, it is one of the things this country was based on -- but, to act or not to act in contributing to the success going forward, that is a different story altogether.
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Old 11-06-2008, 10:00 AM
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My sentiments exactly. We have turned our backs on God and with Democratic control we certainly aren't going to please him. I expect punishment of some sort!
I didn't vote, so I refuse to be punished for something I didn't do.
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It is interesting to note that the sentiment that God is going to punish the US for voting Democrat is basically what the pastor said about AIDS being sent to punish and 9/11 being punishment for actions abroad. Is there a difference?

I don't believe that God punishes a group of people like that. Certainly not for having someone other than a Republican in office. What an asshat idea. It is a weird thought and arrogant to boot.

Wow is right.
I so agree. Good post!

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Here are the exit polls that CNN has...

Local Exit Polls - Election Center 2008 - Elections & Politics from CNN.com

There's 7 pages to flip through.
What are exit polls? Isn't that just someone that asks who you voted for and then writes it down? Is this the only way of getting the demographics that we have, or is there a more scientific approach that is based on the registered voters so all are counted, not just who answers the questions outside the polling place?


Thanks for the link, though! I will look as soon as I know that it is an accurate reflection of all voters.
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Old 11-06-2008, 10:21 AM
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You got that right! I will say that I am disappointed that Obama won. It has nothing to do with what color he is (I go to a black church). He's too liberal for me and my views/beliefs. While McCain wasn't the best choice, he's closer to my values than what Obama is.

I will say that I am proud to live in a country where we are free to choose who our President will be.

By the looks of this thread, I'm in the minority here.
You're not alone -- I could have written your post.
I must say that this election is one for the ages. What an historic event we have all just witnessed/participated in! We were discussing the whole Civil Rights movement at dinner last night with our kids and just letting them know that this is HUGE for our country.
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