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Old 11-10-2008, 06:28 AM
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I would love to hear what you think about this.

I live in a neighborhood with a small tot lot across the street. Apparently, on Saturday morning at 3:00 am, the 16 year old boy down the street and some of his friends were hanging out there, making noise and generally being rowdy. Our county has an 11:00 p.m. curfew for teens, IIRC . I never heard the noise, but another neighbor did (maybe one that actually borders the playground) and called the police, who broke up the party. Last night the mother of the 16 year old called to see if it was us that called the police. She spoke with DH and I asked him if she was trying to located the caller to apologize. No -- she was calling to yell at whoever it was for ratting out her kid.

Personally, I probably would have just yelled out the window for them to be quiet, but I don't blame the neighbor who called either, since you really don't know who the noisemakers are at 3:00 a.m. and it could have been real troublemakers. I think it takes a lot of nerve to complain that someone called the police, though.
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:51 AM
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that just goes to show how some parents are now. THey dont make their kids take responsibilty for themseleves and then wonder why their kids turn out like they do.

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Old 11-10-2008, 06:58 AM
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Ridiculous. I agree--this is why some kids/teens behave with utter disrepect toward others.

We have a little playground up the street, next to my girlfriend's house. There is a basketball court, which draws kids from out of the neighborhood. They were turning on their car stereos BLASTING loud, yelling curses at each other, blahblah. This was going on mid-day, during the night, constantly. She had nicely spoken to these kids a couple of times, asking them to keep it down and remember that there were little kids around. They would ignore her. One day her d/h was home, so he spoke to them. Their response was to tell him to "Get F*&*^d", and to then constantly yell at his wife & kids when he wasn't around.

So yes, the neighbors started calling the police. I would have done the same. And if anybody told me it was my kid up there, he'd be writing apologies and begging for mercy.

I hope the cops cite every parent of every kid involved.
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Old 11-10-2008, 07:17 AM
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I agree with the other two moms. The mom of the teen needs to focus on her kid who was doing wrong, not the neighbors who were well within their rights. What's the matter with parents these days????

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I agree aslo there sadly are alot of teenagers out there that are out of control. Sadly alot of parents want to put the blame somewhere else. We here in our neigborhood had some instances of what is called fencing in.. Teenagers either walking by or driving in their cars, get out and kick other people's fence in.Some people are left with being able to fix the fence , while others are left with a damaged fence. We live in a world where today children have so many things to keep them busy, yet they are still so bored.I Know when we were all kids we had more respect for neighbors. Catherine
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Old 11-10-2008, 09:35 AM
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I made such a call once. I wanted to get some sleep, but also wanted anonimity. I had no desire to become a target of immature kids who would blame me for ruining their fun, and also no desire to make an enemy of the neighbors and create unnecessary tension. I didn't know them well enough to feel comfortable making a phone call directly to them. Their failure to control their kids didn't obligate me to set myself up for 'payback.'
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:30 AM
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it's parents like that who tick me off to no end! She probably calls the school when *junior* doesn't do his homework and chews hte teacher out for not giving him an "A"....no wonder kids are so messed up. The apple doesn't fall very far from the tree sadly
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Old 11-10-2008, 11:59 AM
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16 years old and out on the street at 3am? they deserved the call and the police should of been called on the parent for letting the kid roam the streets at that hour of the morning!
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Old 11-10-2008, 04:09 PM
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I'm just making a guess here that the reason mama was so hot about someone calling on her baby boy was because this isn't junior's first brush with the law.
And now it will probably mean "mom" having to involve herself in his punishment.
Cops recognize people and kids that they deal with on a repeated basis. They also remember attitude.

But of course this is just a guess.
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Old 11-10-2008, 04:19 PM
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As far as I know, this is the kid's first problem, but my kids don't hang out with him, even though he's about their age. He was in the TAG program for a while, and so went to a different school. According to DH, mom didn't know they were gone -- supposedly the boys' "friends" convinced him to sneak out. Some friends, huh?
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Personally from my views as a mom a 16 year hanging out till 3 a.m. is off limits. That is way too late. Perhaps I was raised strict omg I was 17 and my curfew was 10 p.m. Perhaps I am also too strict now my younger dd Caitlin she will be 17 in May she is allowed out with her friends till 11 p.m. period. If they are staying at a friends house like a sleep over that different, but trust me a few of her friends are 1 year older and they drive,, so sleepovers whether here or there still worries me.. But sadly me and my df cannot be with her 24/7 and we have told her to do the right thing and be responsible, as always we as parents want to trust them, but its scary thing today being a teenager. OUr rules for Caitlin is no matter what she cannot be in anyone else's car except her older brother or sister. take it or leave it..Peace...Catherine
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Old 11-10-2008, 05:53 PM
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Wow. Some parents these days..........
When my oldest was younger and was in the wooded area not too far from my house (within viewing/shouting distance) a neighbor called me and told me my son and some friends were setting off firecrackers and she was going to call the police. I said "well if that's what they're doing, go ahead". She was silent for quite awhile! I don't think my son was doing it - I think he was watching- and they quit after just a few so nothing happened but I'm of the mind that if my kid's doing something wrong do what you think you need to do! It was nice of her to call. She's kinda strange though! lol Luckily my sons have never had any run-ins with the law. Not even a speeding ticket for my oldest and my other one doesn't drive yet. I've been blessed with good boys!
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:39 PM
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Sometimes I think the parents of today would just rather read about what their kids are doing in tommorows newspaper.
I can just see them now,hiding behind their newspapers giggling.
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:39 PM
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It is getting really bad everywhere... no respect. When will parents realize they are just causing more problems when they constantly try to baby their child or act like they everyone else is the bad guy. I am so tired of it.
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Old 11-10-2008, 10:53 PM
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A 16-yo out at 3:00 raising hell and waking people up needs consequences...not pampering and covering up by Mom. And, that is what I would have told her, in a neighborly way.
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Old 11-11-2008, 12:42 AM
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I am surprised at times on how some of my dd; Caitlin;s friends and how easily some of them totally have so much freedom to come and go..Listen like I said being a teenager today is very hard and scary.But I believe there are alot of parents who totally will never admit their kids are doing anything wrong...Yet one of my dd;s friend she came here from Scotland when she was 5 and is a only child, her mom has to be one the strictest parents I have ever seen.. Seeing a parent like that today is very rare...During the summer we have alot of kids who would drive pass our front lawn which is a long driveway and throw bottles of beer or empty McDonalds food bags, totally no respect at all today for some teenagers... Peace. Catherine
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:08 PM
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I live in a small, relatively peaceful town. For the last 6-8 months, a group of teens, most of them from the neighboring township, have been hanging out in the town square at all hours of the night. These kids aren't old enough to drive, they're vandalising property and littering. The cops are saying that if parents would parent, there wouldn't be a problem. True.
We don't have a curfew because the last time we enacted one, the ACLU got involved and it ended up being overturned. There are grumblings about a new curfew but we have to be so careful with it because we cannot afford to defend it against the ACLU again. It makes me sad that these kids are allowed to be out all night, every night and the police don't seem to be able to do anything to stop them. I cannot imagine letting my dd roam the streets all night. These parents must know their kids aren't home, yet it continues.
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Old 11-11-2008, 01:45 PM
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I would love to hear what you think about this.

I live in a neighborhood with a small tot lot across the street. Apparently, on Saturday morning at 3:00 am, the 16 year old boy down the street and some of his friends were hanging out there, making noise and generally being rowdy. Our county has an 11:00 p.m. curfew for teens, IIRC . I never heard the noise, but another neighbor did (maybe one that actually borders the playground) and called the police, who broke up the party. Last night the mother of the 16 year old called to see if it was us that called the police. She spoke with DH and I asked him if she was trying to located the caller to apologize. No -- she was calling to yell at whoever it was for ratting out her kid.

Personally, I probably would have just yelled out the window for them to be quiet, but I don't blame the neighbor who called either, since you really don't know who the noisemakers are at 3:00 a.m. and it could have been real troublemakers. I think it takes a lot of nerve to complain that someone called the police, though.

That truly is a shame. I would be beyond embarresed if that were my son acting like a hoolagan. Sadly, not all parents share my view. In fact, I've known some parents to behave worse than this. I feel bad for the people who called the police. I'm sure this woman will find out, or at the very least, have a strong suspicion, and they will probably retaliate against that neighbor.

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That truly is a shame. I would be beyond embarresed if that were my son acting like a hoolagan. Sadly, not all parents share my view. In fact, I've known some parents to behave worse than this. I feel bad for the people who called the police. I'm sure this woman will find out, or at the very least, have a strong suspicion, and they will probably retaliate against that neighbor.

Pathetic.
Certainly is pathetic. Whenever I have to wonder why some of the kids I see act the way they do, I only have to look as far as their parents to see exactly why.

I would be under the jail if I even thought my kid was acting like that. I always told them, I would stand with them if they were doing right but if they were doing wrong, they stood alone. We only had a few instances of that happening amongst the older boys and once the rest saw what happened, they fell right into line! LOL
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Old 11-12-2008, 06:24 AM
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Parents like this infuriate me.

My soon to be DIL's mother is identical to this.

Her daughter and my dss stole our van one night when we were gone. (I hate to say stole, but they didn't ask and he didn't have a drivers license, sooooo) This was like 4 years ago.

We called the cops because we didn't know who took it.

We found the van, the cops had a talking with them, and the daughter got rude with my dh and I and was threatening my dh. We just let it go.

The mom has the nerve to be rude to me the first time we met (about two years later) and tells me that she wanted nothing to do with me because I called the cops on her daughter.

HELLO!!!
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Old 11-12-2008, 06:36 AM
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Parents like this infuriate me.

My soon to be DIL's mother is identical to this.

Her daughter and my dss stole our van one night when we were gone. (I hate to say stole, but they didn't ask and he didn't have a drivers license, sooooo) This was like 4 years ago.

We called the cops because we didn't know who took it.

We found the van, the cops had a talking with them, and the daughter got rude with my dh and I and was threatening my dh. We just let it go.

The mom has the nerve to be rude to me the first time we met (about two years later) and tells me that she wanted nothing to do with me because I called the cops on her daughter.

HELLO!!!
Wow, what a horrible way to start off a family relationship.That is just crazy for her to blame you for calling the police when you didn't even know who stole it.Heck, I might even had called the police even if I had known my son had taken it,becaues you really just don't know if they have any intentions of returning it.Kids can be crazy and you just don't know what they'll do next .That is such a shame that her mother is like that.
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Old 11-12-2008, 06:50 AM
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It was more of a case of us being responsible if there was an accident or something.

I mean, maybe we still would have been, but if you don't report something as stolen, when it is, I would assume it would be that much harder to prove that you didn't allow someone to take your vehicle (like borrow it).

But yeah.. I was floored by her reaction. But then again, that was my first time meeting her and goodness only knows what the kids told her about the whole thing. They could have told her something totally different to get her worked up. She was cool with everything and even apologized (in her own way) when we took her and her ex dh out for dinner last month.

I just chaulked it up to her not knowing exactly what happened, thus her reaction. I never have even brought it up to explain. I just dropped it.
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Old 11-15-2008, 04:18 AM
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She sounds like a low-life mother. I cannot stand parents who let their kids get away w/ everything. I'm glad we currently live on an Army post. The rules are strict and the curfews are enforced. I have no tolerance for disrespectful teenagers anymore. I've definitely embarrassed my daughter before when I thought her male friend was not being respectful, lol.
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