From the sticky at the top of this board:

Locking a thread isn't the same as removing one.

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No the rules have not changed - I know the post you are talking about - Verifying if it can be removed.

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Mary

Thank you -- I'm very glad to hear that!

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Personally, I hope that thread remains. There are an awful lot of us who are sick to death of a single poster being coddled

Is there anyone who would argue that she is not, in fact, totally abusing the reputation system and making a mockery of it???

Can you mock a joke? Does anyone really care about the "rep" system? What's the point of it other than to give some people a sick sense of joy when they neg someone?

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bite me and get a brain!

Actually, you're right -- I'm sorry I used that phrase since I believe the entire rep system is really very silly

It seems like the same old stuff, people can say truly mean and downright cruel and rude comments, yet when I feel that I disapprove and want to leave bad rep, I come across as the bad person . Truly pathetic, its the same as all the boards, there are certain people on the boards who want to rule and say whatever they feel is ok and others just get a slap in their face over and over and over again. Also I am sick and tired about hearing about my usage of the word peace and also mention of my brother Sonny. Again for the one milion time, if you do not like me or my words then do not say anything. Plain and simple. Peace. Catherine

Who cares about the rep system? It's so stupid anyway. No one pays any attention until someone starts whining about it. If they are unable with Catherine, neg her, but it's against board rules to start a post like was done -- and it's not the first time this has happened and been allowed to sit there.

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truble2301 I must start by saying you are by far the smartest women on the boards, you totally speaks the truth and in honest and fair in all posts. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your post. I also admit that the rules should apply to all, and that while we as women will never totally agree with all, no bashing or starting a post directly againist me or anyone else should ever be allowed.I know I am not always right and neither is anyone else.However for me I am constantly being picked on for my grammar, my usage of the word peace and for mentioning my brother Sonny too much. Why does this bother people so much I cannot understand. I do not want to make this post about me, but just one more thing, it is truly sad to anyone here to make fun or even mention over and over again that I use xanax for panic attacks, that is not funny. Ok I am ending here. Again once Again Truble2310 thanks so much for your words of wisdom and the speaking the truth, your a wonderful caring person as I know there are many more here. Peace and stay safe in this holiday season. Catherine

That's a double standard. You ask people not to say anything if they don't like your words, yet you are allowed to spew your opinion when you don't like theirs. (be it spanking, rudest US cities/states, whatever...) I cry foul! It's an internet board; not your own personal playground. The board's rules and netiquette govern what is and isn't allowed (or should).


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Update - It has been decided to leave the post in question alone.

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cjs216 as with the other post where I said this was the last time with you,and then I finished and I mean't it and did not post anymore. So cjs the truth is at this board for some posters, that they can say whatever they want and when someone like me says something againist it or has different views, its the same posters that come back and seek drama and cause trouble. You say you want me to leave you alone, yet you continue to come into any post about me and whenever I post something, you come in right beneath me and post I disagree and say something negative. Again its entirely your freedom to say and speak your views, but is it possible that the same posters always disagree with me.Also I have asked that my grammar nor my usage of the word peace or mention of my brother Sonny, nor the fact of my usage of xanax for anxiety attacks not be brought up a million times. However like I said before this is it. I spoke my peace. You can post all you want too, but just think If I started a post its me iluvlucy420 stop picking on me, boy would some have a field day with that post. But it was ok for opal to start the post and bring my name up where it clearly reads againist the rules to publicly post negative or rude comments about another member. Oh well. To all peace and stay safe in this holiday season. Catherine

I will say that I think that the original post in that thread was an extremely personal attack, mean spirited and should have been something handled between the two posters. I don't understand either why it is allowed to stand. All this for reps? However, I also don't see who gives two hoots about reps anyway. It is not going to affect anybody's annual job reviews or anything like that. If a poster really detests another poster so much, why do they care about a neg from that poster? Personally I never even look at a poster's rep when reading their posts or responding to posts. When all is said and done, it is SOOOO easy to not have to "deal" with another poster on these boards with a mere "ignore" feature. Or even just skipping over a poster's posts if you don't want to ignore. But that is just my rights in this wonderful nation of ours, the ability to post my opinions whether anyone agrees or likes them or not. So, go ahead, rep away....neg or pos doesn't affect my real-world life one way or another

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Have the courage to be yourself.

I agree that the note was a personal attack and really cut quite deep, but on the way home from the mall I noticed that it's a full moon - that'll explain it! But seriously, if someone wrote that about you (not meaning any one in particular, just the general you), wouldn't you think twice about your role in the grand scheme of things? To tell you the truth, I'm a big marshmallow and I would be crushed if someone wrote that about *me*.

As far as the negative rep thing goes, it may not seem important to you if you aren't on the receiving end of it. And when it isn't even for something real and includes a nonsensical comment, well, it can be really exasperating! And when the poster follows you around and gets on your case and negs you when you're not even talking to them.....well, more exasperation!

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It's disgraceful that the owners of this board are willing to let a pointed, vicious, direct attack on a poster stand. I guess it's a free-for-all now, with people allowed to write whatever they want without any rules enforced at all.

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Thank you truble2301 again it was a vicious attack againist me and if not me it should never ever be allowed againist anyone who is a member here on the boards. Honestly like I said, with all the times I have been called out on my grammar, on my usage of the word peace and mentioning my brother Sonny and also for using Xanax for panic attacks, unlike someone who thinks I am a mental case, that is out and out bashing.LIke I said what if I started a post againist certain posters to do this to me over and over. Needless to say I agree really who truly cares about the rep, because in the long run this a cafe board to come and talk and speak if we are going to get bad rep for just talking perhaps, thats ok. However if you or anyone posts something, is it truly fair to say something so rude, or is it not better to just speak your views without being extremely rude.Again thanks truble2301 soooooo much. Peace and stay safe in this holiday season... Catherine

You're absolutely right about that.

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If it helps, there's one good thing that has come out of these two threads (this one and the one locked).....Old returnees (me) or newcomers know who to ignore!

I'll stick by my opinion that this whole rep thing is junior high-ish!

Go ahead and post a personal attack on someone, and see how your post is handled. You will soon know which side of the fence you are on with the powers that be on this board.....

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Have the courage to be yourself.

I think that thread should be deleted and I was part of the discussion...

I hope that I didn't offend anyone? I just never know who might be offended by what is posted.

I am surprised that it is still up based on the rule in the sticky that is posted at the top of the board.

Rules apparently only apply to those that the powers that be have a beef with and let all others slide....

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"Yesterday is but a vision, and tomorrow is only a dream. But today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a dream of hope." Anonymous

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Have the courage to be yourself.

Sorry Lucy, I didn't mean any harm mentioning the Zantax.I also was not trying to ridicule you in anyway.When you feel personally offended and feel the need to derep someone I feel it is your right to do so.I personally think it is much nicer to derep someone then to lash out at them on the board but it always gets carried onto the boards anyway.
The times that I can recall being derepped I very much appreciated that it was done in that manner instead of lashing out at me publicly.I will take into consideration a private derep more than I would someone belittling me publicly on the board.But thats just me.

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It's their board and they can handle it as they see fit. It's always the same members griping and complaining about how this board is run. They complain so much that it makes me wonder why they stick around if this board is so "disgraceful" and they're so unhappy here. It's a great big Internet and there's plenty of other boards if this one's so terrible, KWIM.

Actually, it wouldn't really help to move on because it's the same all over. If you run a message board, you get to make the rules and if someone else runs a message board, you don't. It's such an easy concept and I don't understand why so many people have such difficulty with it.

I think it's interesting that there wasn't a demand for the rules to be enforced when the same people complaining attacked and insulted Kathytheshopper repeatedly on the Election Board. It was a daily occurance and they delighted in posting insults and degrading threads about her. I guess it's only "unfair" and "disgraceful" if you like the member being attacked because they had no problem with it when they didn't like the poster. LOL.

I think that's true.

And I have to say that I'm surprised at some of the posts in this thread since the opinions being expressed now are different from ones that have been expressed privately

Kelly,
I think very few here have the courage to say publicly what they profess privately.

I do not have that problem!

Some people here diguise their personal attacks , while yet others don't attack in posts but prefer to attack privately via PM---thus maintaining their public persona.

I went cold turkey and didn't visit mycoupons for two weeks. And now? It's the same people saying the same things. It's the same people playing the victim, and the same people defending the "victim". It's a never ending cycle.

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You know, I agree with this -- except I think we disagree on who it is that's coddled and who makes a mockery of the rep system.

And if you think I've said anything to the contrary privately, please feel free to let me know about it. As far as I recall, we've never had a private conversation.

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Yeah, I am wondering that too, as few of us have defended the position that this should be removed, and I personally have NEVER gotten into the anti-Lucy campaign nor been a defender either. Do I agree with everything she says or the way she writes it....no. But never have I in private mails snickered at her behind her back. I do not disagree that people can have personal feelings about a post or a poster on these boards, but that original post was way too mean and personal to be allowed under the rules of this board. Plain and simple.

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Have the courage to be yourself.

BRAVO!!!!!! How quickly they forget, I guess???

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I don't think "they" are the ones who forgot what happened. I think the people that believe it was the same as this situation are the ones with a memory problem.

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I can't find it at the moment, but I seem to recall Mary/dnj51 saying that a decision was made that the post would stand. Soooo....with that, can we just give it a rest? Maybe start some new topics so that it will scroll off the first page while everyone is chatting up other more (or less!) significant topics??? Carry on, folks. Don't beat the horse anymore....there's no progress being made.....

cj/

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Yes, wasn't the election board fun??? I think I have been called about every name in the book on this board! My main problem with this has always been that it is against this boards stated policy of behavior-they need to either enforce it or remove the statement. There are some good mods on here though that have removed some really offensive posts about me-the KKK robe one was removed by a wonderful mod but lots of other things have stayed.

I really think if you have something bad to say to someone you should PM them and keep it private. nancy

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Some people will never grow up. This is worse than Jr. High. Why are people so petty? Get Over it all and move on. Isn't there better things to do with your time and energy than bashing people on the MC boards?

From all the activity these threads get, I'm guessing no.

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Posts can not be deleted by anyone other than the mods if a thread has been locked.

Are there some people that don't understand that
reps = reputation

I NEVER thought they were given for every disagreement that we had with what someone said.
I thought it was more for giving a good rep for doing a good trade or something nice.
A red or bad rep seemed to be given ONLY when someone was mean or nasty.

Am I confused about what the reps are for?

No one abused the rep system until one person started posting a lot here.

Perhaps, since the rep system is basically pointless, the answer is to do away with it.

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Have the courage to be yourself.

Did anyone besides me watch John Mellencamp on Biography Channel tonight?

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The political system is broke and it's a joke.

Then you agree that it was a personal attack that cut quite deep, and the consequences should have been placed appropriately based on the "rules" of the forum.

Even if you were "joking", I find it disturbing that you would make a joke and place such light, as a full moon, on someone else being personally attacked in such a deep, cutting way.

But I guess we can all justify just about anything, just so we don't have to feel guilty (or accountable) for our actions and/or words.

For the record, I did not write the note, opaldancing did. I corroborated the fact that lucy was giving multiple negative reps to me as well as opal and deddlastt. I'm sure anyone in the health care industry can tell you that it is fairly common that a full moon seems to bring out the worst in people. If I disturb you so much, don't read my posts.

I am 100% accountable for my actions and words. I am not guilty of anything however.

cj/

ETA: I also think that Catherine needs to be 100% accountable for her actions and words and I have seen countless people here attempt to help her to be more compliant and respectful to the rules of the road here - some have done so gently (wowitdark, in particular) and some have not. I think this current situation is totally in her hands. That doesn't excuse some out-of-line behavior, nor does the full moon, but again, I believe the situation is Catherine's to fix (IMO).

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I was walking home one night and a guy hammering on a roof called me a paranoid little weirdo. In morse code. -Emo Phillips

I'm curious as to what rules here you think Catherine has broken? A lot of people are annoyed by her postings, her grammar, her references to her brother, etc., but that's what the ignore button is for. But what rules has she broken?

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She's broken no board rules per se (which by the way, doesn't really have any rules, they have said that) . She continually and repetitively breaks the general "rules" of internet etiquette (brief, white space, stay on topic, never send what you don't read - i.e. spell/grammar check, etc). I personally take great issue with the "I can say whatever I want, but you cannot" attitude. Not a big fan of hypocrites.

By the way, the poster who offered a link to another board with trader information - that was NOT against board rules at all, but that was deleted. Makes no sense at all.

And I do have Catherine on ignore now, but unfortunately she gets quoted a lot so it's not possible to totally shut it out.

cj/

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I was walking home one night and a guy hammering on a roof called me a paranoid little weirdo. In morse code. -Emo Phillips

Who has said that? If there are no board rules, why have other posts and threads been deleted in the past? Just whatever the owners feel like doing, do you think? That's how it seems.

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Yes, I believe (do not know) that the owner/moderators, etc have a behind the scenes discussion and/or operate unilaterally at times to keep things in check. It's a free board, so I don't gripe about the service - too much! I figure that I get what I paid for it. In this case, I would not be surprised if the note was left to stand to force someone's hand. Moderators, etc really don't want to - nor should they have to - put up with people who make the day to day here more difficult...be it Catherine or anyone else, including me.

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I was walking home one night and a guy hammering on a roof called me a paranoid little weirdo. In morse code. -Emo Phillips

For what its worth, I personally have complained and/or reported about personal attacks in the past but there was nothing done and the post(s) stood.

I came to the conclusion that not everyone has a common view as to what a personal attack is. For me, I draw the line between vehemently disagreeing with someone's opinion or behavior and calling them on that......and slinging names and making character judgments. However, I don't think we'd be able to come to a common definition on this subject.

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I was walking home one night and a guy hammering on a roof called me a paranoid little weirdo. In morse code. -Emo Phillips

Yes, that's happened to me as well. I was threatened by a poster in a PM one time, which I forwarded to the admins, but nothing was done about that poster either. So I definitely agree that stuff slips by and/or is ignored by TPTB. The thread in question, however, was brought to the admins' attention by several people and it is still allowed to stand.

We might not agree on the subject, but I can't imagine that there's anyone that doesn't agree that the thread in question was a particularly vicious personal attack.

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I reversed my decision and the thread has been removed.

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