Okay, I know I'm going to get flamed for this. But I'm really sad to see George W. Bush leave the White House. He made his mistakes, but I think that overall he did the best job he could for the situations he was given. I know the war is a huge issue with many, but I kind of saw it as inevitable and necessary. I was at a luncheon with him when he was the Gov of Texas, and he was so real and down to earth. I've just always admired him. And as far as first ladies are concerned.. Laura was one of the classiest. Anyway, with all the Bush bashing going on.. I just wanted to say that I liked the man and the president.

I didn't vote for Obama, but he is a powerful speaker and is growing on me. I'm looking forward to seeing if he's going to move the nation forward.

Yes, I feel the same way. He made me feel "safe", and I have a lot of respect for him. Laura Bush, well, let's just say, I don't think you'd catch her wearing go-go boots to something like the inauguration.......just saying.

I am glad they will get to enjoy their golden years. Hopefully some grandchildren are in the not too distant future. I'll bet they will be awesome grandparents.

I am warming up to President Obama, but, I just can't help but feel the "rock star" mentality going on. Almost High Schoolish..... hard for me to put a finger on it, and explain.

President Bush made tough decisions, and many didn't like that, I guess.

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Yes, I will miss President and Laura Bush also. I actually shed a few tears when they flew off on the helicopter.

President Bush has kept America safe for these 8 years. I, too, felt 'safe' while he was President.

I wish them all the best and certainly hope they enjoy their years of retirement together.

I never liked George as President.

But I've always liked George as a person. And I agree - to me there was something sad about watching he and Laura leave. And I also agree with OP's points about Laura Bush. Laura was the ultimate, classiest first lady. I never ever heard an unkind word said about her. Ever.

I am ready for the next phase, though, for sure!

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I agree and I too thought Laura was very classy and I also felt safe. We are in a mess but we didn't get blown up on US soil.

I do wish Obama luck with the mess he has inheritad. Whether we voted for Obama or not he is now our Presidant and we must stand united and support him and pray to God he does a fine job.

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I LOVED and will miss President Bush!!!! He wasn't afraid to make unpopular decisions to keep our country safe. You can't argue with the fact that we haven't had another terrorist attack since 9/11. IMO, the Bush-bashing that has gone on in this country borders on treason.

Thank you President Bush for your service to our country, and welcome home to Texas!

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And some of Bush's actions/decisions bordered on being impeachable offenses...IMO, of course.
So, I guess we'll call it a draw....

I think Bush did his best, but his best was sorely lacking.

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" LOVED and will miss President Bush!!!! He wasn't afraid to make unpopular decisions to keep our country safe. You can't argue with the fact that we haven't had another terrorist attack since 9/11." I have to agree 110%!!
And I always went to sleep at night feeling safe and secure... Now I am not so sure...

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I agree.

I saw Ari Fleischer being interviewed recently, and he was talking about how difficult it is to have the public only really understand a fraction of what is going on. He mentioned Gitmo as an example, and said it's not until you sit across the table with military commanders and look at the list of prisoners there and have a commander tell you, 'Prisoner A is from Pakistan. He trained in terrorist camps for two years and ran one for six. He had three brothers and they have committed a long list of terrorist acts, and they are now running a training camp outside of their hometown. Prisoner A was caught by our forces while taking a message to one of Osama Bin Laden's high-ranking followers about a pending attack in Great Britain. If we release him to Pakistan, they will not agree to hold him for more than thirty days in their jails. There is a high probability he will return to his hometown and rejoin his brothers at their terrorist training camp. Do we let him to or keep him in custody?" Ari said that when you are the president and that reality is on your shoulders it's a much different picture when theoretically, you are against holding people who have not been tried and convicted. If you keep them in custody you are criticized for violating their rights. If you let them go and then they commit a terrorist act on US soil two years down the road, it will be your fault. It's a no-win situation and anyone in the role that President Bush has been in will know that the decisions are excruciating and oftentimes, all of them carry negative consequences.

The bad things that are happening in our country right now aren't all his fault. They're really 'our' fault. We loved our credit cards and were softies who wanted the poor and downtrodden to be able to have homes to live in, and were willing to turn a blind eye to a system that, while probably well-intentioned, was not pragmatic enough to recognize that if someone can't support their family without assistance they likely aren't yet positioned to maintain a mortgage month after month. No law exists today that congress did not pass. No conflict is happening today for which congress did not appropriate funds. If Bush was wrong in his belief that Iraq posed a threat to us, then we must find equally to blame our new Secretary of State, because she not only affirmed his statements but put the financial muscle behind his solution.

He entered the White House to run a country whose economy was tanking thanks to the fall of the internet hype. Within months, the greatest man-made tragedy ever to be inflicted on American soil by a foreign enemy took place. It was a difficult set of circumstances, and I am confident that he did the best he knew how to do.

I realize that this is not true across the board for every conservative, but by and large I have been extremely proud of my party today. When I hear the phrase "peaceful transition of power," I take that as a credit to the minority party, for it is the out-of-power party that has the power to make it *not* peaceful. I remember moans and wails of "HE'S NOT MY PRESIDENT!" eight years ago when Bush took office, long before anyone had reason to disagree so strongly with any war-related policies of his. I remember signs about recounts and hanging chads and the stench of sour grapes in the air.

This time around, I'm not seeing that happen. The Bush camp is behaving with much class and maturity and respectfulness. If that's the stuff we're made of, then I have no doubt that it will carry us through to the next election cycle or two. The pendulum always swings the other way eventually, and ultimately God is in control.

I really like Laura Bush she is classy lady :-)

President Bush was responsible for not changing the direction things were going in.

President Bush I am sure is a nice and good man. He just had/has no idea what working people are going through. He is so far removed from the reality that most of us face on a daily basis that many of the things he said you would have thought were jokes if you didn't know better.

I don't pretend to understand why you would think he did a good job or why you are sad to see him go. I can't think of one good thing he did for this country. He certainly did nothing to keep jobs in the country, he did nothing to legislate changes in the banking industry. He profited and continues to personally profit financially from the oil industry and the industry that makes war machinery.

That should be a conflict of interest. It would be if the Mayor or Governor or anyone were involved.

I did not feel safe and secure when he was President. His policies were a big part of the reason people hated us and wanted to kill us all.

With all due respect to all of you there is nothing I can see that this man did to make a country a better place in fact I will go one step further and say not only did he do nothing to make it better, he also did nothing to prevent matters in all areas from getting worse.

And Homeland Security is a joke. Just ask anyone involved with it. Just ask me.

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You know what I think is really unfortunate? When a president takes over, he gets to clean up the messes of the former president. George is gone. I won't shed a tear. Now let's see if Obama can fix it or break it further.

No sigh us intelligent thoughtful people with hope for the future we are such idiots we cannot help ourselves.

Sigh

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anna, I say this as respectfully as I can....

Your guy won, and he was gracious to President Bush today. Those of use on the other side are just as much Americans as those of you who are enthused today.

I do not wish to take away from your enthusiasm, but also do not find it particularly 'uniting' - something President Obama spoke of today - to have the intelligence of those who felt differently questioned repeatedly.

Today, I think it would be a nice thing to just give it a rest.

I'm intelligent and thoughtful, and I have hope for the future. You can't be pregnant and not have hope for the future. Just because I don't place all my hope in one man's ability to save this nation doesn't make me any less intelligent than you are. I'm just surprised that you would go there with one of your posts. (And I do have tremendous respect for your posts. They are generally well thought out and very well written.)

But you know what? When some of us have questioned Bush's ability to lead this country and some of the decisions he made, we've been labeled unpatriotic and even treasonous! So, it swings both ways---

I do question the intelligence of anyone who can look at the big ole pile of crap this country is in today, and say that fmr Pres. Bush didn't contribute to some of it, or cause some of it.

There are people on this board who state they are in mourning and crying because President Obama is now in charge! These people haven't even given the new administration a chance....Typically I like to give something or someone who's new enough rope to either hang themselves or make a bridge out of it. Some people here can't even get over themselves long enough to say "my candidate loss. Dammit! Well, let's see what the new guy can do..."

I didn't like Obama then, not a huge fan of his now--but crap! I'm willing to at least see if he makes good on his promises or not.
Why is that so hard for others to do?

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I will miss the Bush family also, I think they show class. I love Laura Bush and regardless of how anyone feels, I felt safe after 9/11 and respect him for that. I did not vote for our new president but regardless will respect him and the office he holds.

Also, didn't like the dress or at least the mustard color. Mrs. Bush however looked as always classy.

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Does anybody realize that he has a 78-82% approval rate (different reports, thus the 4% difference I gave him)? No other president took office with rates like that!

(Sigh) If intelligence speaks in the way people write, the above sentence is laughable.

There are plenty of intelligent, thoughtful people with hope for the future who are not enjoying this day and do not fully embrace Obama as the one person who will answer all their dreams and prayers. He is only a man -- only a man.

Well said!

I completely get where you're coming from. I just don't appreciate someone questioning my intelligence because I happen to like the last president. I hope Obama delivers. Much to my surprise.. I'm warming up to the guy. He seems to have a good family, and is one of the best politcal speakers I've ever heard. That being said.. I loved W. I actually met the man, and think that he did the best for our country with what he was given. Like the previous poster stated.. the economic crisis is not his fault. We need to take responsibility for our poor financial decisions.. and not blame the government.

I disagree. Most of his appointments are Clinton people.We have seen them in action.

I would be more willing to back Obama if he did something for the citizens in Illinois for the few months he was here to represent us. He is the president now and he will be given a fair chance. I sure hope he is ready for the job.

I will miss President Bush. I felt he protected us after 911, Laura is a classy lady.

He was not our best president but he did the best he could given the circumstances.

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I can respect what you have said. I don't necessarily agree with it--but at least you're not weeping and wailing and gnashing your teeth and talking about you're in mourning and this is a sad day, blah, blah, blah....
I still have some issues w/ Pres. Obama. I am not a fan. I am, however, willing to see how he does. In my opinion he can't be worse than Bush, and with any luck he will be MUCH better.

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May I say thank you and kudos to these last few refreshing posts! I love intelligent posts that are also respectful! (and I think more people would read these posts if they were as nice as these!)

I am not a huge fan of Bush or Obama. Having said that...I am more than willing to give the new administration a chance, and I hope that the problems in our Country improve.. Bush wasn't a perfect president, but I have been amazed at some of the posts on this board placing all the blame on him for everything from the September 11 attacks to the banks failing. Its time for Americans to take responsibility for their own actions. We were the ones charging what we couldn't afford on our credit cards, and we were the ones purchasing homes way beyond our means. Like I said, I am not a Bush fan, but geezzz...give the guy a break.

Now I am beginning to wonder about the people here.

Nowhere in anybody's posts on any forum on mycoupons.com have I read that any of us saying that "Obama is the one person who will answer all their dreams and prayers"

For hopefully the last time ---

The reason I am excited and full of enthusiasm is that the last eight years would have been a joke if we weren't in such hot water right now.

I am excited that a man who is honest, sincere, intelligent, thoughtful, and who has worked hard to get where he is President.
I am excited that the President has no financial gains to be made by the oil companies, the companies that make war machines, and the companies that make a profit by destroying and rebuilding foreign countries.

I am excited because I see a man who is intent on bringing back the America where we provide goods and services to the world, where we can hold up our heads in pride because we all have secure jobs, where crooked executives and CEOs rob the people who worked to put the money in their pockets.

Yes I am excited and I will bet all you naysayers 25 cents that in two years the economy will be much better and there will be less corruption.

Mark my words.

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I did not meant to imply you or anyone is not intelligent. I was annoyed by poster's words and I was just trying to make a point.

I totally understand why people are scared. Fear is born out of uncetainity and I have put my much thought in the things I am saying about the new President. It offends me that people think I see him as some kind of superhuman idol.

Again I did not mean this to imply anything I was only trying to state that we have made this decision by using intelliegence and thoughtfulness.

What I would hope is that everyone would have hope.




And one of the reasons the country did not feel hope or unity eight years ago is that George W Bush did NOT win the popular vote. If the President at that time was the man who received the most votes it would have been Mr Gore.
It left a bad taste in peoples' mouths and showed us that the next four or eight years would be filled with the same kind of lying and twisting of things.

And we were right that is exactly what happened.

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Marilynk-we haven't had another attack since 911. I think that is something that you can attribute to Pres. Bush.
I am sad to see him go. 2004 was the first time I ever voted Republican. I heard there was even chanting against Bush at the inaguration today. So much for those peace-loving, fair minded liberals! lol Laura was probably the classiest First Lady we've had! I'm planning to write to former President Bush sometime soon so he knows he's respected and loved by some of us.

And I heard today that the Dow has never had such a drop on an inaguration day before!!!!

In San Francisco some prankster changed the sign on Bush St to Obama St. LOL

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No shed of tears here I could not count the moments to see them go, bye bye for good all the trouble he caused this wonderful country. Yes we can and yes we did we have a new Commander in Chief our New President Barack Obama yippee praise to God . Peace. Catherine

But that would require people to actually take personal responsiblity.

One man did not get us into all of this mess, and one man isn't going to get us out of it. There is so much more involved. We are in this economic mess because of our greed! Everyone should not have a mortgage. Too many people living beyond their means, trying to out do the Joneses. What goes up, must come down. The economy is cyclical and has a lot to do with the perception of the people. A lot more involved than one man.

It is not a job that I would want.

I'm sorry, what hard work has Obama done to become President? I missed something somewhere.... I have no problem saying I don't like the man, don't trust him, and God help our country because we are going to need it! That being said I would never want to be president or the responsibility that goes with. I will respect the President, but that does not mean I have to like him or agree with him.

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If you are praising God for this, then I will assume that you are a believer. If you are a believer and study the Word, then you also know that God allowed Bush in office for a "season" for a reason. You may not have liked him. But, if you do believe, then you also would believe that He is in control and has reasons that we don't always understand. We may not know His reasons for years, or maybe even never.

I do believe one of His reasons was because of what happened 9/11.

I don't really care for Obama and did not vote for him, but I will consistantly pray for him.

Yes I will miss the President Bush and Laura too. I too felt safe while he was in office. He was my president and as an American I respect him. Yes, he made mistakes and if you look back every single president made mistakes, they are also human. As is Obama, I am sure he will make mistakes but he is my president now and I respect his position even though I did not vote for him. I hope he can keep our country safe and hope his ideas work to help our country. But I do feel some people have an idea that Obama is going to pay thier mortgage, bills etc.. I don't know where they get this idea... but my dd is a collector for a big credit card company and when she calls people she gets several people a day saying " Obama is going to take care of my credit card bill so stop calling me" She never got responses saying Bush was going to pay thier bills. But it seems lots of people think Obama is. If we pull together as a country we can get out of this mess, but we can't expect the president to bail out people for over spending. I am hopeful that he knows what he is doing and is going to pull this country together.

Somehow I think that relates directly to the banking industry...those are the stocks that took huge losses today. When Obama talked about regulating the market in his speech today I wouldn't be surprised if we will soon have a nationalized banking system in the near future.

Also, I hope you don't think that Obama being sworn in as president has much to do with this Dow drop....It could be the huge credit binge a lot of American's have been on in the past decade.

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I'm just playing devil's advocate here: Perhaps God allowed Bush to become President to make us realize how bad it could be and to make us see the error of our ways. You know, kind of like Noah's Ark and the whole flood thing? Or Babel? Bad things happen, and yes, they do happen for a reason--whether it's to prove a point or to protect. I don't think God is necessarily a vengeful God, however I do believe that he allows bad things to happen when people continue to disobey or not listen....
I'm just saying...
Generally, all things can be interpreted differently, and just because you may believe that God "provided" for Bush in our time of need; someone else may feel that God allowed Bush to be in power as a way of showing people just how low we can sink...It's all a matter of your perception and your interpretation.

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That is so very well stated!! I also believe one of the reasons is 911 and I might also add that I believe it is appointing pro life judges to the Supreme Court.
In the Word it says - "In Genesis 25:21,22, Rebekah conceived twins, and "the children struggled together within her." Note the connection between the conception and "children." That which was conceived was called "children" (Heb. BEN) between the conception and the birth.

In 2 Kings 19:3 (and Isaiah 37:3), Hezekiah compares himself to an expectant mother who lacks strength for the labor. He says, "the children have come to birth, but there is no strength to bring them forth." The life in the mother's womb is here called "children" (Heb. BEN).

Years from now I feel history will be kind to Bush and he will stand out as a better President than most people see him as now.

Marilyn-I am in total agreement with on this. We don't always know the reasons. Sometimes we get what we ask for and sometimes we get what we deserve. I definitely think He is trying to get our attention for lots of things that are going on. It all boils back down to personal responsibility.

As a beliver, I have to believe that Obama has been allowed to be in office for a reason. It is my responsibility to pray for him. I don't always have to agree with him and I will stand up for what I believe is right and wrong. But, ultimately, I have to honor the office of the presidency. I did not care for Clinton, but I don't believe he was the "devil "himself. Bush was not the "devil" either.

And, I agree with you 100% (and they say I'm the disagreeable one! LOL)

I really do agree...it's about personal responsibility and living with our means, not only financially, but in all other aspects as well!

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Oh..just to be clear....I am not thrilled with the Obama supporters who think that everything was Bush's fault and that he was basically "the devil." I am also not thrilled with the belivers who think that Obama is "the devil himself". Give me a break. Give the man a chance. Pray for him- that God will direct him. We might be pleasantly suprised.

Maybe we should run for office!

My brother's best friend works for the FBI, anti terrorism.

He is VERY, VERY, VERY BUSY.

George Bush kept this country safe for the past eight years and kept the war against terrorists off our soil.

I am literally waiting now for the bomb to blow.

Please God, don't let my child be on that bus.

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I am going to miss George & Laura Bush being in the White House. I know George, Sr. is getting old but it somehow made me sad to see it the other week at the dedication of the aircraft carrier named after him.

I did not vote for Obama but I hope he does a terrific job - it is our country at stake. I can't wish bad things on him.

One of my best friend is in the Marine Corps---he's very, very, very busy too. Fighting a war that we got involved in under false pretenses (or lies).
My sister is a civilian working for the DoD--she's very very very busy too--making sure that all the military that are fighting in Iraq and/or Afghanistan have Humvees, Bradleys/Tanks and other necessary armaments to fight the above war.
What's YOUR point? Everyone is very, very, very busy these day.

I think your fatalistic and extremely "gloom and doom" attitude is very disrespectful to the men and women who lay their lives on the line daily for your freedom. I think your attitude and you implying that President Obama would somehow cause us to be attacked, is a very crappy attitude for anyone to have...I hope you aren't preaching/teaching gloom and doom to your child(ren).

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You are talking to me about the military? Your sister isn't even active duty and your best friend isn't family.
Yeah, I'll take your best friend and DOD sister and raise them a father, a brother and my daughter's father. And they all share my "crappy attitude".
And my point, although I thought it was quite clear, was that there are constant attempts by terrorist groups to attack our country and, in the last eight years, they have not been successful.

Best friend and DOD sister, wow, hang a big 'ole Blue Star Service Flag in your window girl!!!!!

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All the cool babies are wearing cloth!

You know? Since you know nothing about me, and the individuals I mentioned I will tell you this: Both of my sisters, and my father worked for Red River Army Depot. One of the largest resupplier depots. And over the years have been the only place that rebuilt/repaired Bradley fighting vehicles, MLR Systems, and various other vehicles and weapons. If any of your family have served active duty in the last 25 years, and had the opportunity to use or ride in a Bradley, use a MLR system, received supplies, etc. chances are high that they got to do so because of something my family member or a family friend had done at work. So, before you start putting me down, you might want to step off and consider that....oh, and my brother-in-law spent a year in Iraq because he too workes at RRAD, and they needed people on the ground in Iraq to fix things.

I won't even begin to bore you w/ the details of my friend who has served 3 tours in Iraq (2 in Bush #1's war, and 1 in Bush #2 war).....
I think we can all list people we know and love who have served in the Military. And of course they are busy--we're in a freaking war in case you haven't noticed. We've pissed off half the Earth. Of course there are people who want to blow us apart!

I was commenting on you teaching your child fear and to be afraid that we're all going to be blown up...and having such a dim view of the current President to think that HE will be the reason if we are attacked.

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Unfortunately just a few minutes ago as I was watching Obama on tv I thought to myself "I wonder how long it will be before the big attack". Didn't Biden even say we will get tested in the first 6 months? God bless George Bush for keeping us safe!!!

Disclosure of standard operating procedure is nice, but unwarranted. Many already knew your basic premise of being here. It is much more obvious than what you think.

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President Bush is the only President to receive the highest approval rating..and the lowest.

His highest was 90% after 9/11
His lowest is his approval rating upon leaving office.

On the other hand, today Wall Street closed it's lowest point in History on an inauguration day. .

Remember, we have a democratic congress.. and now a democratic President.


I will be waiting, and hoping.

George and Laura were fantastic, real, down to earth people. I love Laura. Class to the highest....George, I just can't imagine what things he has gone through the last 8 years. While I am glad to see a change of power, I am also very happy that we had the experience to have a leader that I think will someday be thought of in the same way Ronald Regan was/is.

My brother also worked for the federal government in a role directly related to bio-terrorism for several years. I know little about what he did, but from the little I did know, I was very impressed by the depths of the awareness of some very massive issues. Someone said earlier in this thread, I believe, that anyone who works for Homeland Security could tell you it is a terrible mess. While my brother was frustrated with the bureaucracy associated with having a government job (the reason he left that job, actually!) his concerns were not with whether or not they were being effective. My understanding is that he felt very good about their contribution and the things they were able to keep from happening.

I think you forgot something....like...9.11!

BTW, President Obama is VERY, VERY, VERY BUSY trying to clean up Bush's mess. And the people of the U.S. will be VERY, VERY, VERY BUSY paying for an unjust war that Bush didn't even bother to fund..

And that shows that once people got to know him and his agenda they didn't like him.

And your point is?

Isn't it GREAT!

You must have missed my point...even though you quoted it.

Originally Posted by ohhgodd
"Remember, we have a democratic congress.. and now a democratic President."

and no, it isn't great. It's scary to have complete control by one party.

Clinton's Congressional Approval Rating
1993 25%
1994 26
1995 32
1996 35
Now 41


The Democratic Congresses approval rating as of July 2008?
How interesting that the approval ratings for our Democrat-controlled Congress have hit single digits, and are the lowest approval ratings ever seen, at 9%.

So, while bush's ratings are clearly in the toilet as he leaves office (due to the economy), it is almost three times better than the approval rating for our Congress.

Before you jump on me for bringing Clinton into this, I only did it because he was our last Democratic President that I can pull congressional approval for.

However, he did leave with a phenomenal voter approval rating in the 60's. But, his approval rating also went higher during the Lewinsky ordeal.. so go figure.

Bush led us to an attack within eight months of his inauguration. Hats off, Dubya.

Clinton was in office a few weeks before the first WTC attack, and then there were eight years of no attacks on American soil. He seems to get no credit for that.

Bush was in office eight months, had warnings of an impending attack, presides over the largest terrorist attack on American soil (and, despite his swagger, never does catch the responsible party). Then he has eight years of no attacks on American soil and is hailed as the Great Defender.

Hmmph.

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