It's not listed in this article, or anywhere there I could quickly find, but, I know on the news it was stated that part of the money would be used to bring the Internet to people. Did anyone else hear that??? Also, how is that going to help things??

Obstacles await Obama's stimulus effort in Congress - Politics AP - MiamiHerald.com


ETA: I found this link also. Not sure if this is the Stimulus plan, or not. Also, it mentions giving money for WIC. I thought someone here said that was not funded by the tax payers....???
http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/Doc...ics_report.pdf

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I don't know exactly what you are referring to. But, I do know a little bit about poverty and the effects it has on education. Think about the advantages your kids have and that you have because you have access to the information that is available. And, the comfort with technology that you have that those who have to enter a workforce full of technology don't have. Not only would those who supply the equipment and technology get a direct benefit, those who receive the technology that might not have otherwise received it will experience the benefit as well. So, it's sort of a twofer. But, that is only my guess and I don't know what is in the package because I really don't have a say. I hope my elected representatives are able to make the best choices for all of us.

Currently, my husband and I are working to get computers and the internet to underserved kids. And, cell phones to all their teachers so they can call them any time, day or night with questions. The concept is the same.

Take a look at this site: Why the Internet Matters | Internet for Everyone

This article: Timothy Karr: America's Next Moon Shot: Internet for Everyone

I think it can be compared in some ways to the Rural Electrification Administration of the 1930’s: EH.Net Encyclopedia: Rural Electrification Administration

Here is a summary of the stimulus plan
Summary of Spending Proposals in $825 Billion Stimulus Bill Proposed by House Democrats - US News and World Report

Warning – It’s 14 pages long but we are talking about 825 billion dollars!

There are not many teachers I know that want to be accessible day or night to their students. If there are some, they are few and far between, and I would stand up and applaud them!!

But, I think that is awesome that you and your dh are doing such wonderful things to help education, nightowl!!

Even just having email makes teachers more accessible to parents. I don't know of many teachers that give out their cell phone numbers.

I am a teacher. We have e-mail service for parents to teachers and phone service for parents. But we are not allowed to speak to students by phone or e-mail. I don't think that I would be a teacher if I was expected to answer questions day or night. My son is a surgerical nurse and carries an on call phone some weekends but he gets paid for carrying it whether he comes in or not.

Then, you wouldn't be welcomed to teach at my husband's school. No problem there. Phone calls from other teachers, parents and/or kids at 6am and 10pm are not unusual at our house. His teachers are a dedicated group. Those that are hired but prove that they aren't willing to put in the extra effort are not welcomed to return. It's pretty simple actually.

The results of the school's methods are evident in the graduation rate, amount of scholarships, and college acceptance rate.

Sounds like a great school! The kids are very lucky to have such a team dedicated to their success.

Actually, we feel very lucky to be a part of the solution

I'm still trying to figure out how providing internet will stimulate the economy? Doesn't everyone have access to the internet already? I know most, if not all, kids at school have internet, and there is also the library, with internet access.

As for internet access helping kids succeed, I say we devote more money to get the parents involved. It's so sad when I am testing these kids on books they are supposed to have read, and many of them have either not read the book, or read it by themselves, and didn't understand it. We need more parental involvement at home and in the classroom, as well as mentoring/after school programs. I think that would go much further than trying to provide everyone with internet access.

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No.

Do an experiment. Go without your internet access for a month and have your kids walk or take the bus through a crime ridden neighborhood to the library. Then tell me how that worked out for you.

Part of the huge divide with poverty is access to information.

Wow...I am impressed. There is no way you would see that happening at the school I work at. I have to say that I do see the teacher putting in extra effort everyday, but I think it would be a bit much to expect them to recieve phone calls from students for 6 am in the morning to 10 pm at night. With what they get paid...their hours are long enough. I do admire anyone who dedicates that many hours to their career....

All the teachers and administrators provide students and their families with their contact information and are there for them 24/7. Teachers and administrators also make home visits and involve the entire family in their student's education.

Let's hope that those teachers willing to be "on call" for all those hours are being paid handsomely for their dedication.

Oh, they are. Knowing you have made a difference in the world is quite a handsom reward. From a money aspect however, they are paid about 10% less than the unionized public system. So, it's worth it to all who work there if money isn't the object. I guess it depends on why a person does what they do. Ten years ago, my husband left an amazing 6 figure job to do this. Life isn't just about money for a lot of people.

Our teachers also welcome phone calls at home from parents if there are any problems or students if they need help. All the teachers tell the kids to give them a call, all give them their number or tell them they are "in the book". Our softball coach even lets the girls/parents come by his house to pick up the key to the weight room so the girls can lift weghts 3 times a week, if he is not at the school. We live in a small town though, so I think that makes a difference too.

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I'm glad to hear my husband's school isn't totally unique.

Our sports coaches are like that too. Isn't it wonderful? I have had to drive two towns over to get kids for sports events and the coaches arrange the schedules around kid's work and child care needs. Many have to work to help support their familys, and many also have responsibility to care for elderly family or younger siblings.

Like I said before, I am impressed! I do agree that making a difference in the world is a wonderfull reward. Over the years I have had the pleasure to work with many very dedicated, overworked and underpaid teachers. I would like to think they are in it for the right reasons, I surely cannot imagine that it is for the pay alone! I think that enjoying your job is very important, but with that being said....it doesn't feed your family, buy your medication and heat your home. I feel that other than a childs own family, teachers are the most important person in a young adults life, and I feel they aren't always appreciated for their hard work.

Read the links on my previous post (#3). It's more than just an educational issue (although education is a big part). If you look at the state map on this page Internet for Everyone | Help define the future of the Internet in America. you'll see that depending on the state only 30%-60% of homes have broadband. I know a large number of people who can not receive high speed internet (except satellite which has major drawbacks) because it is not offered where that live. In the digital age people who can not receive high speed internet are at a disadvantage and the disadvantage will grow larger in the coming years. If you (general "you") don't believe that try dropping your internet service or switch to dial-up.

Along with the economic divide, there is also an urban vs rural digital divide.

I read the entire 14 page report - Here are a couple things that bother me about the proposed stimulus package

Home Weatherization: $6.2 billion to help low-income families reduce their energy costs by weatherizing their homes and make our country more energy efficient.

Low-Income Home Energy Assistance: $1 billion to help low-income families pay for home heating and cooling at a time of rising energy costs.
These are two separate programs.

Why for only low income? There are middle-income people that also have trouble paying electric bills because of poor insulation and rising electricity/fuel charges.

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$20 billion to increase the food stamp benefit by over 13% in order to help defray rising food costs.

Why don't they spend some of that money researching those that have been on food stamps for years and years and make sure all needs are valid. (No I'm not saying there is a lot of cheating, but there are some that do.) Where my husband works, the average pay increase for last year was 3.2% How do they get 13% increase for food stamps?

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National Treasures: $400 million, including $200 million to address the deterioration of the National Mall, such as repair of the Jefferson Memorial's collapsing Tidal Basin walls; $150 million to address the repair backlog at the Smithsonian; and $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts.

I understand that there are improvements needed, but 1/2 a billion dollars? Maybe they could charge a nominal fee at the various Smithsonian Museums to help off-set the repairs. I am just personally opposed to giving anything to the National Endowment of the Arts. (Why? because I have seen some of the exhibits and projects that tax payers have funded that are just crap)

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Lower Healthcare Costs: To save not only jobs, but money and lives, we will update and computerize our healthcare system to cut red tape, prevent medical mistakes, and help reduce healthcare costs by billions of dollars each year.

No, no, no, serious BIG BROTHER! I don't want my medical information accessable to anyone except my DR and insurance co.

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Benefits Extension: $27 billion to continue the current extended unemployment benefits program - which provides up to 33 weeks of extended benefits - through December 31, 2009 given rising unemployment.

Most states it's already 26 weeks, now they want to go to 33 weeks. Honestly if a person cannot find some kind of employment in 1/2 a year, maybe they aren't trying. (Did y'all see the CNN report about the lady who told her husband to get a job as a pizza delivery man? And how many of you know someone who was on unemployment and milked it as much as they could, then when it ran out, they got a job?) Spend the $$$ helping these people find jobs!

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Not to be totally negative -

I think any spending to help all aspects of education (Including the computers and internet, pre-school/Head-Start, child care, teachers, schools, etc.) is a must.

Programs that will allow medical attention to everyone is a must.

Programs to get people employed is a must.

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I can speak about computerized medical records. They reduce costs and medical errors and will be the future for anyone who receives Federal funds for medical care within 10 years. Please don't get all worked up by the crazy wingnut boards. The VA system is 100% computerized and my guess is that is the system that other's will model after. It is fantastic! With today's advanced medical care, people see multiple doctors in multiple states and many insurance companies (for now anyway) are involved. If you want to pay for your own care then go for it and demand a paper record, but don't expect it if our tax dollars pay for your care.

That's an interesting thing to say. I feel like stipulations should be put on people receiving public assistance....such as drug testing. Want a check?? Take a drug test and pass it.

By the VA system, do you mean just care given in a VA clinic/hospital?

I can see the advantages of computerized medical records, and the disadvantages of it, as well. Also, if the information is put in incorrectly, then that has done no good, really, right?

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as a work comp claims examiner, let me say that even though MOST facilities are "paperless" (or computerized) it still requires an act of God to get someone's records. Even when "I" am the one paying the bills.

OH, and any medical records kept by a govt. institution (VA, Indian Health Services, US Military, etc.)? Getting those records actual requires moving Heaven, Earth and Hell! Seriously! Getting blood from a turnip is easier than getting medical records from the US Govt. I literally shed a tear when I find out one of claimants has prior records @ VA (we have an large VA facility in town), Indian Health Services (again, we have such a large population of Native Americans, IHS is pretty prevalent) or the Military (Malstrom AFB is in Great Falls and they have a medical unit on base...)

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The two aren't remotely the same concept or argument. It won't be a "stipulation," it will be how the system is eventually administered.

Like someone said before it depends on the situation (parents and students calling the teacher 24/7). If I were to e-mail or talk to a student by phone, I could get fired. I have always worked in Catholic schools so I have not gotten top pay. I don't teach for the money but because I love to do it. All teachers put many hours in that are not recorded. My whole family has throughout the years. My husband and my kids when they were young help do bulletin boards, etc. I have been teaching for 29 years. My students live in bigger houses than mine. They have every kind of electrical and computer thing. I think anyone who teaches is dedicated.

um, any chance we can get back on the original topic, and discuss how the internet is going to create jobs, or even how the computerized medical records will???

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AIA--I think there is actually a large population who are computer ILLITERATE. Especially the aging work force. If computer training, internet (so many companies have an internet based operating system) training and providing computers would allow people to expand their base of knowledge, thus making them more employable.
For example: One of the clients I worked for was a group of 13 hospitals. They employed a lot of CNAs. When those CNAs got injured, they were taken of work. There was no "light duty" available because the majority of the CNAs, were uneducated and certainly had no transferable skills. The same was true for the food service workers and to some degree maintenance. If they couldn't lift, they didn't have training to do anything else--most barely finished high school. But, if they had some sort of computer and internet training, we could have placed them in a light duty job. We certainly did the nurses, xray techs, etc.

Your single mother, who can't afford to work(daycare cost) outside the home could do medical billing and coding from home if she had internet, computer and the training.

The person who is physically unable to travel to work daily, could, instead of drawing SSDI, work from home.

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AIA,
I dont see how the internet is going to help jobs either. In a lot of cases I think it will decrease the need for employees.
Computerized medical records, in the hospital that I work at, has actually decreased the need for certain jobs. For example, we no longer need the person to file, deliver the charts or put them away when they are no longer needed. And a computer record is only as good as the person entering the information. And when the computer system goes down.. POOF... the whole place is froze because no one knows what to do with out the system.
I can unserstand people have computer training however providing computer training and the internet to everyone is different. Completely different.

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We need to go back and concentrate on reading, writing and math. People can't add in their heads anymore, they seem to need a calculator for the simpliest task. What will the internet do? Kids are way too dependent on instant info, etc... Teach computer skills along with all the other skills. Don't give people everything. Let them earn it. Just my two cents.

I saw that Pelosi wants to include family planning services as part of a stimulus package.

Her reasoning is that if people have fewer babies then the government won't ultimately end up paying for healthcare and schooling and food stamps for those babies.

Personally, I think her logic is flawed because it leaves out the 'human' side of the equation.

I'm not on BC, but if I was, I'd have a $25 co-pay each month. I would pay it willingly. If they are giving the pills away for free, something that I now pay for privately will be given to me by the government. Why pay $300 / year for something I don't have to? All sorts of people will enter the pool of recipients of that benefit who otherwise would find a way, and I'll betcha that so many would do that that it would offset any benefits they'd not have to pay out to a child from a family that can't support said child.

I also think that it's often irresponsible behavior that leads to babies being unintentionally created. You can give away all the pills in the world, but if somebody isn't all that responsible in the first place, just having them won't ensure that they never skip one, won't rely on them while on anti-biotics, etc. I have way too many friends who were on birth control who have oopsie babies to think that just obtaining BC is going to prevent a pregnancy.

What happened to the deficit everyone was so concerned about under the Bush admin.????? Now we are going in debt another 800 billion??? Why isnt anyone screaming about this????? Also under this plan illegal immigrants get money...your tax money.....I thought we had already ruined our children's future under the Bush deficit...What are we doing now??? Or is it all ok because its Obama??? I am confused...Sherri

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I hate that the teacher tells the kids to "research on the Internet" "look it up on the Internet" not everyone has Internet, and what happened to opening a book and reading it. not everything on the Internet is true and kids dont know that.

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I like the part of the stimulus plan that calls for building/improvements to bridges/roadways/schools. Sounds great, but how does that help the person laid off at Circuit City? Are they qualified to build a bridge?!?!

Why all of a sudden are the Republicans so concerned about spending money? Why did Republicans have no problem giving an open check for Iraq but they don’t want to help Americans? Why do the righties always bring out their old, worn out, catchphrase that illegal immigrants will get YOUR tax money. LOL

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Illegal immigrants without Social Security numbers could not get tax credits under the $800 billion-plus economic stimulus package making its way through Congress.
A senior GOP congressional official expressed concern Thursday that the bill could steer government checks to undocumented workers, but in fact the measure prevents anyone without a Social Security number from claiming tax credits of $500 per worker and $1,000 per couple. It also expressly disqualifies nonresident aliens.
The Republican spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly."The Associated Press: Stimulus seeks to bar illegals from tax credit

"The legislation, which would send tax credits of $500 per worker and $1,000 per couple, expressly disqualifies nonresident aliens, but it would allow people who don't have Social Security numbers to be eligible for the checks.

Undocumented immigrants who are not eligible for a Social Security number can file tax returns with an alternative number. A House-passed version of the economic recovery bill and one making its way through the Senate would allow anyone with such a number, called an individual taxpayer identification number, to qualify for the tax credits."

Hill Republican: Stimulus aids illegal immigrants

You totally avoided the question I asked.....What isnt everyone worried about the deficit..you know the one that they were so concerned about under Bush and yes I was all for Bush spending whatever he had to for our troops...Sherri

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Sher21 I am totally totally shaking my head in disbelief that you still choose to stand behind ex president Bush and for the war. To me honestly the money means nothing absolutely nothing in compared to the 5,000 American citizens whom are lost their lives and all none in comparrison to the over 100.000 American Citizens whom were permantly physically or mentally disabled and again all that money means nothing to the well over 90.000 innocent Iraqi citizens who lost their lives and countless thousand more who were also hurt. You still believe, we belonged there still you can admit that, when ex president Bush was awol and had so many deferrants thanks to his dad's infuence and he did not have to serve in Vietnam, but yet he entered into a country we had no business to start with. Again a sorrowful prayer that no more bloodshed and please please President OBama and with the help of God bring our Servicemen and women home to their families and end this war.....Catherine

Well............Believe it......I hate the death and the harm inflicted on people....but I believe in the war.....I have a nephew who has been there twice...I know the sacrifice families make....But THEY believe in what they are doing...too bad America doesnt.....Still no one is answering my question....Why was the deficit so bad then that everyone said we are ruining generation after generation but because Barack passes a stimulas package worth over 800 billion, the deficit doesnt matter anymore??? How does that happen??? Now we are going more in debt but everyone is willing to over look it....I pray to God everyday that these 4 years pass by very quickly.....and that America is left AMERICA when its over...Sherri

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Unfortunately Sherri, you may not get an answer because those who were griping about Bush's spending should be the ones to answer your question. Honestly, what can they say?

Those that did the griping, I too would like an answer to the question. Why is there no question about the $800,000,000,000 so-called stimulus package adding to the deficit?

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THank you....I just want an answer.....but no one seems to have one...Wonder why Sherri

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Lucy, you don't need to shake your head so much. Plenty of people who love this country think differently than you. Just absorb it and don't emote about it quite so much.

I don't pretend to have all the answers. I do believe God created all of us - red, yellow, black, and white. I know that personally, I am far more emotionally invested in American lives than the lives of individuals from any other nation, and I'm conflicted as to whether that is the appropriate 'allegiance' to have, given the fact that I believe that God loves every American, every German, every Iraqi, and every Afghani equally. Laying it all out on the table here, while I certainly prefer the idea that fewer Americans die than others from foreign lands, I don't know as a Christian, how I am supposed to feel about any of that.

What I do know is that a quick google search I just ran came up with the figure - on several sites - that over a period of 35 years, Saddam Hussein was responsible for what is said to be 1,000,000 deaths. That's one million. One million innocent humans died as a result of his presence. That's almost 29,000 every single year. From what I can see, the counts of deaths of Iraqis since the invasion is stated to be 104,000 - 230,000.from the two organizations deemed most reliable (the World Health Organization and a group called "Iraq Body Count", which was founded by an Oxford professor who was not supportive of the invasion). Deaths of Iraqis and Americans have slowed tremendously since they peaked back during the times of heavy battle.

Were Saddam still alive, how many more years would he have lived? How many more years would he gone on to kill an average of 29,000 of his citizens a year because he didn't like their ethnicity? Because they were living on land where he wanted to build another palace? Just because he could?

Did you know that last October, 144 MORE PEOPLE died from violent crime in Chicago than in all of Iraq?

I'm generally a non-interventionist type. Generally, my philosophy is that unless change comes from within a nation, harnessed by the power of the people who just don't want to take it any more, it's not likely to be successful. Think Boston Tea Party. And yet at least in this case, when I ponder whether I think history will show that our removal of Saddam resulted in *fewer people* dying, long-term, because of the sacrifices made by our volunteer army....

We don't have the benefit of that hindsight yet. We can't know if long-term, having an ally in the region will help us out in ways that we can't even envision now, either from a military standpoint or an economic standpoint that keeps things from getting so bad that people are starving.

I just don't think we can know.

What I do know is this: I believe God is in control. I believe that his presence and his plan transcends any leader, and I believe that if he allowed Bush to be in office - just as he allowed Obama to be in office, and I am no Obama fan - then I don't want to be in the business of 1) assigning certain condemnation from God to either of them, or 2) predicting what the future will hold for us because of the military action we took. For all we know, Saddam might have died in a car wreck the day after our invasion! On the other hand, he might have lived another 30 years, and his sons could have easily reigned another 60. How many innocent, God-created *people* would have died as a result of them being alive.

I'm not *discounting* the sacrifice of our 5,000. I am saying that their sacrifice may not have been in vain if the end result is that millions of human beings - humans every bit as "God-breathed" as you and I and our 5,000 lost troops - can live out their lives and will not be murdered for wanton reasons.

I understand when you say "no more bloodshed!" but please understand - there was bloodshed on a high level before we even considered invading Iraq. There is bloodshed going on in the Sudan that makes our pain and suffering look like nothing. Am I trying to say we need to go in and fix those problems? No, not necessarily. But what I *am* saying is that if we *did* - for whatever reason - the net loss to the human race, which is the race God cares about since he doesn't see and worry about the ethnic lines that we do - would be much smaller than it will be if the murderous animals in Sudan continue their ways unchecked. It's genocide, plain and simple.

I don't have an answer. But I know God is in control, the Bible assures me that I am to pray for my leaders because God had a hand in their placement, and to behave differently is to blaspheme and call God a liar. For whatever reason, God found it necessary to allow Bush to be in office. He found it necessary to allow Obama in office. I don't *like* it... but my faith that God knows what he is doing allows me to sit it out without all the wailing and gnashing of teeth I so often see here when Presidents are discussed.

Wowitsdark a few things to discuss number one while I am extremely proud to have been born in this country and am also so so proud to be an American Citizen of the wonderful home I call The United States of America, I do not agree that because I love this country so much, that I should be more concerned with the lost of a life here or any where else in this world. If you totally believe in GOd and you did mention it then God as I believe also created us all and as all humans we all deserve the same in life, does life work that way sadly it does not. The total lost of lives in Iraq was so not necessary. I totally agree with you 100 percent on the dead leader Saddam HUssein who was a vile and vicious leader who killed so many of his people and ruled that country terrible. DId he deserve to die and be rid of forever most certaintly sp... but Wowitsdark at what cost to so many innocent lives. I know not anyone likes Obama however it seems like there are so many people who will not even give him a chance to perhaps make this wonderful country of ours even more better. All I have ever asked is that we have given and did give ex president Bush 8 years and now its in President Obama;s hands to bring this wonderful country back on its feet. Will he succeed I cannot promise do I believe he will I sure hope so, will he fail at certain problems of course he could he is only human. Again 8 years and here we are a mess, at least kindly give President Obama a chance its only been 8 days.... Peace. Catherine

sheri218 four years and out, its only been 9 days and you already want him out, why Sherri did we have to suffer so much from the Bush Adminstration for 8 long years and yet its only been 9 years and you are rushing your life for the next 4 years to come so fast????. I for one cannot even think about next week much less the next four years, that puts me that much closer to being 50 years old... Do not rush your life, life is way too precious just a thought???/ perhaps??/ Catherine

The deficit doesn't matter (for the time being) because people once again are hoodwinked selfishly into now waiting for their whopping $300, $500, $1000, whatever. This board will be full of posts speculating when people will get their checks and for what amount.

Change my left foot. A repeat of the "stimulus" and surrounding yourself with Clinton era people is not change. Another stimulus is not the answer, we simply cannot keep throwing money around that we don't have.

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There will be no cash payout, because Obama and his staff feel that this money generally goes into savings, not affecting the overall economy, and stimulates nothing.

Each worker will see an average of $13 a week added to their paycheck. This will mean that money will be there for them to spend every week, and more than likely will make it to the stimulation that they are hoping for (the economy).

Those on unemployment will see a $25 per check raise.

This is what was said on a press conference I listened to yesterday.

Hope this helps.

But no, no lump sum [cash payout at all.

The Republicans didn't vote on it, because they feel it is wrong, and they do not want to show that they had anything to do with it, in case it fails.

However, if it suceeds.. that won't look too good on them now, will it? lol

wowitsdark - What a great, heartfelt, sensitive response. I appreciate the time it took to gather the facts.

lucy - Come on, Bush is out of office...get past it already. Really, you are sounding like a broken record.

Regarding the conflict in Iraq and God...Remember the story of Joshua? God actually stopped the sun in the sky to allow Joshua more time to kill his enemies. Not only did God approve of the killing of evil men, he helped. I'm pretty sure Joshua lost some of his fellow soldiers in the battle. And you can bet everyone of them was proud and dedicated to what they were doing and the causes and lives they were protecting. (Pretty much like our Soldiers)

(Sorry to hijack your thread Sherri, I just had to get that out)

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What i find funny is that he thinks that 25 bucks added to my husbands unemployment is going to go make me spend money?? That will go towards my bills and nothing more. The stimulus plan is a joke. I am willing to give Obama a chance to turn things around, but i don't see it with this stimulus plan. I don't agree with what everything bush has done either. If they want to stimulate the economy they need to make a stimulus package that would really make a difference. 25 bucks does nothing.

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dnj51 Bush may be gone but why are you picking on me is Sher218 not the one who is waiting for 4 years to pass so quickly that Obama leaves how come no comments to that, I know because you do not like Obama either but thats okay, but play fair ok, there are plenty of other members here who are happy to have Obama as our new president you could have mentioned there names as well, how come only mine.To me and others it is not a broken record, but perhaps to you and others.Bush's record broke a long time ago and I am for one am so glad we have President OBama to rix his broken records.... Catherine

DH's solution for stimulating the economy, saving deserving industries, and saving folks' homes is to give each citizen (about 300 million) a million bucks, much cheaper than the proposed plan ;-)
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What the Republicans look like is petulant children. They've made a foolish mistake. After the Democrats were willing to compromise, led by Obama, the Republicans still pouted. If the Democrats aren't going to get any bipartisan support with their compromises, why bother compromising? They may well add back in all those things they agreed to take out to please the Republicans. I hope they do.

BTW, Eric Cantor is my Congressman and he's an absolute lying embarassment to Virginia. What a putz.

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Yeah, those Dems.... always so above board, noble, strong, never whining, always looking out for the other guy....

Almost makes me wish I was one!

Okay, not really. Not at all.