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The woman who gave birth to octuplets this week conceived all 14 of her children through in vitro fertilization, is not married and has been obsessed with having children since she was a teenager, her mother said.

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People like that should not qualify for ANY government aid. If you can't afford them, don't have them.

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This story just keeps getting more strange...

Here in New York this story is in all the papers, they are saying she is unmarried and all the children have the same sperm donor. The papers also are saying that she has 3 sets of twins and its also says that the sperm donor recently got married and asked that this sperm not be used anymore. However the women did go ahead and used it again. So the children all the same mother and father. The papers also say that she lives with her parents and as of March 2008 declared bankruptcy. I truly cannot understand how someone was so fortunate to have 6 children and is not married and living with her elderly parents want to have more much less a total of 14. Honestly it also stated in one article that her father the grandfather to all these children had to return to his country to earn extra money for the family. Can anyone imagine the cost of taking care of these children the medical costs for all these babies that will spend months in the hospital. I am sorry, this is totally not right at all. Catherine

Seems she's like the animal collectors, the people that have tons of animals and animal control has to watch over after they take them away, this is the baby collector.

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I can't imagine how she got the money to do the in vitro. My son and wife spent $12,000 on it. After two tries, my granddaughter was born.

Not just in her case, but in many. Anyone can have a baby. Anyone.

Yet, you have to pass a test and be a specific age to get a driver license, be a specific age to drink, be a specific age to vote, be a specific age to join the military, own a firearm, etc.

Anyone can have a baby.

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I heard she was married but her husband was in Iraq or something. She only has 1 set of twins. I think it's sad, too. I heard this morning that she wanted "1 more girl" and ended up with the octuplets. I have to question the doctor who did this especially knowing she already had 6 children.

Lisa

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This story keeps getting more strange with each passing day. It sounds like the grandmother is not supportive of her daughter in the least, and is threatening to move out of the house. I was somewhat relieved to read that Nadya does have a college degree, so could actually provide some financial support to the family, but I don't think she will be able to with all those babies and young children.

Any predictions whether she will get a lucrative deal for an interview and pictures? I just don't know since I think people are kind of outraged about this.

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Its my understanding that she is not married, nor has she ever been married. The other six children were all born thru in vitro. It is her father who is in Iraq, not her husband. As far as wanting one more girl, she knew that all eight eggs *took* very early on in the pregnancy. I think the doctor who did this may indeed be in trouble....

I read the same thing. All children have the same sperm donor. All the embryos were created at one time. These were the last 8. There aren't any more.

I've been wondering if she went out of the country to have the IVF.

What I have heard is that she was married but got divorced in early 2008. She is living with her parents and the parents filed for bankruptcy so her father(babies grandfather) is going to Iraq to work, some sort of lucrative construction contract. She already had 6 kids and the whole troop lives in a 3 bedroom house that is rented.

Now I have no idea what, if any, of that info is true. I do know that having IVF when you already have 6 kids is irresponsible and should be criminal. I have no idea what rules/regulations exist regarding IVF but it sure sounds like they need to be made tighter.

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She and her doctor both need to have their heads examined. What doctor could ethically do IVF on this woman under these circumstances? I really don't understand.

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I disagree with this idea. I don't like the idea of making the number of children someone chooses to have a criminal act if it's more than *I* think they should have.

The issue here, IMHO, is that they implanted eight eggs. I heard yesterday that they thought she was having seven and were not prepared for the eighth when it arrived. They said it is very hard to count all those babies via ultrasound in that tight space.

I don't think there should be laws against having seven kids, and that was what she intended to have.

But I'm not comfortable with the fact that all of these kids have no paternal identity. Call me old fashioned, but I don't like the idea of single moms having babies via IVF with no dad in the picture. I think God set up a system where it takes to to make a baby for a reason, and to presume kids don't need the influence of that other half isn't in the best interests of the children... IMHO.

I know....I know... sometimes dads die....sometimes they are bad dads... etc. Those things aren't in the best interests of the children, either. It's one thing when live throws you a curve ball and you make the best of it. It's quite another, IMHO, to make the decision to create such a situation as this one that is far from idyllic.

My papers say she has 6 children all sets of twins who were conceived the same way and its also says the other 8 were also and it also states she knew that their were 8 planted and were told of the risks and that she should consider reduction, I will not get into that, however again 14 children and no father , this is wrong so so wrong.I can see with the Duggars they take care of their children , but now she is living at home with her parents in a small 3 bedroom house and where is 17 people going to live in those conditions... Very sad... and so costly. Again I agree more and more light in being shed on this story, I am sure we will hear so much more and time goes on. Sadly I pray for those babies who have so much to grow and hopefully all turn out healthy... Peace. Catherine

Did you see in the article OP posted that she has a Autistic Son and that she told the babysitter that she got paid for doing the IVF for the children? Something stinks really bad in this case for sure.

She is supposedly pursuing a Master's degree in counseling, she already has a degree in child and adolescent development. Please tell me where is this women's money coming from? She has got to be on the dole now , I am pretty sure her Autistic Child gets SSI and Medicaid she has to be getting some type of public assistance and Californians are sadly paying for this women's childhood obsession with baby's and children. Last I heard Califronia was broke.

Its pretty darn sad if she is when my DH is legitimately disabled cant work, but cannot get help from the state with Medicaid because he doesn't exactly fit in under Social Security's defination of disabled, but all his Doctors will not release him to work not even to pick up dog poop !! This just irks me to no end if this woman is getting help when we are sitting here unable to get any help and paying into the system for over 30 years at least DH has been.

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Lucy, before the Duggers got their show, they used to rent a very small three bedroom house. They managed it.

One of the people interviewed for the story said she is a nanny. Probably a good thing as the grandmother doesn't seem to be inclined to help out.

So far, no one has said that she is getting any assistance. Her best friend has stated that she receives no assistance.

Some people manage well by never buying anything new. They barter for goods and services. They spend very little money/

This is what I found online about her other children:


The mother is understood to live with her parents and her six children, aged 7, 6, 5, 3, and 2-year-old twins.

What a mess. She's nuts.

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I heard that she went to Mexico for the procedure.
I also heard that she did it because she wants a TV show like John & Kate.
I have no idea, of course, if these stories are true or not.

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i bet that is why she implanted all 8 at one time, since the sperm donor asked her not to do it anymore she wanted to get it done incase there was a law suit. the gma said there was no more sperm left. i read where the gma said she was told by a counsler a couple years ago to make her daughter leave, now the gma says she told the dtr when she got home she would be gone. i know she probably wants her dtr to grow up and take care of all these kids by herself but its just gonna affect the kids in the long run. not that i blame the gma for leaving, but maybe if she had left two years ago then maybe there wouldnt of been 8 more now. of course who knows what would of happened. i just think its all bizzare and if in the end your actions affects others then you should step back and reexamine what you are doing. since her dad is having to go over to iraq as a translator in order for these kids to have a life.

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The other thread on this topic said she intended to breastfeed 8 babies.....can a woman's body really make enough milk to feed 8 babies? Just seems to me that 8 babies is not natural and that natural breastfeeding would not be able to accomodate them. KWIM?

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Wouldn't it be incredibly sad if DHS had to step in at some point and remove all these kids. I mean, if she really is unstable in any way, how in the world will she do this!! My 2 yo was cranky tonight, and I couldn't wait till bedtime!! And she is rarely like that, I can't imagine being single and having 14! It's ludirous.

HHHMMM Makes you wonder if there won't be other's who might try to purposefully have huge families with the new tv land fascination with them...

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I don't think there is anything wrong with a person having 7 or 8 kids either. I just don't think they should have them all at one time!

I have read several other articles and some say its her parents who filed bankruptcy not her and Vice Versa there is too much out there conflicting each other now.

It has my head spinning and I am starting to wonder do these babies really exist? Or is it all a ploy by Kaiser for advertising?

She is a Psychiatric Technician, and certainly can't make enough to support 6 kids on it without some help from the state or the father paying child support and it cant be much child support since 4 of the kids birth certificates show the same father listed as David Solomon according to 2 articles I read.

People do manage trust me I am the poster child for it these days. I am thankful my SSDI check comes in Tuesday but it will be gone Wednesday my little $150 H&R Block Check isnt going to hold us two weeks until his check gets here on the 15th but I will do my best.

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Kvmj, hon I know that the Duggar family lived in a very small house before they moved into the huge home they are in now. While they did have 15 kids at the time one short of this lady, those children were born apart. This women is going to be bringing home 8 little ones all basically at the same time, can you imagine all those items needed for 8 infants plus 6 others kids plus 3 adults and I am sure I perhaps imagine family members helping even with 3 adults there is no way they could manage 14 small children and 8 new infants all by themselves, where would everybody and everything fit. Like I said we will find out more to the story again raising 14 kids all by yourself in todays ecomonic times I cannot imagine it at all. Even if she has a great job, how can she afford to stay home and still manage to feed all those babies and children, the formula the diapers the clothes, not normal and not fair I am plain sorry... CAtherine

I don't follow the Duggar family, however when they first landed their tv deal, etc, no one could get away from all the media hype. It seems to me, and my memory could be bad, that they have at least 1 set , possibly 2 sets of twins. If true, then not all of their children "were born apart".

dl

Lucy's point still stands independent of a couple of sets of twins. I'm pretty sure that the Duggar family did not have 14 children under the age of 8, and all the equipment and what not that goes with young children, at any one time.

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dl your correct the duggars did have 2 sets of twins but again they were born years apart, also with the Duggars from what I can tell from the tlc program and correct me if I am wrong, they seem to have a child about every 14 months or so and with all the older children helping there was never ever any need for outside help to come in and help with the feedings and the diapers and making the bottles and all that fun stuff . So now with this family there is not Dad or So that I know of, so it comes down to the mom and her elderly parents caring for 6 small kids to begin with and then 8 little premature babies, who at this point when they are released will need feedings and changing around the clock. I cannot imagine all that work and again, they will definitely need help and have people sleep over all in that little house.. The last I heard from my papers today was that the grandmother said when the babies come home she is out of there. Again I do not know how accurate this information is or whether it holds any truth, either way, with multiples I have seen so many family members and neignbors come in and help with the feedings and diapers and cleaning. Sheesh this week my dd Caitlin was so sick with the flu and I stayed home 4 days to care for her I could not imagine this task... Peace to all . Catherine

This story gets more and more strange as time goes on.
I think she would have had to go out of the country to get the IVF, because in the US ethical practices are to implant no more than 4 eggs, usually 2 or 3. I know that's just a guideline, but I highly doubt most reputable IVF specilists would want to implant more than that because of the high probability of multiples which puts the mother and the babies at risk.

I don't think you can compare this woman at all to the Duggers. The Duggers have one or two children at a time. They have a wide range of ages (20s to infant). The older children can care for the younger ones. With this woman, you can't expect a 7 year old (I think that is the age of her oldest) to care for one infant, let alone 8. She will have to have some kind of help because I don't care how great she is, there is NO WAY one person can safely care for 8 infants at the same time, let alone 6 other young children.

I have a feeling this woman is hoping to be 'famous' -- with a book deal, TV show, exclusive magazine photos, etc. If that is true, it's sad that she went to these lenghts. Kids are to be loved and charished, not used for personal gain.

I just read that she wants 2 million dollars for her first interview.

Octuplet's mother hoping to earn 2 million dollars from her story .:. NewKerala - India 's Top Online Newspaper

Well, well, well.....I guess it's our curiousity that will pay for this blunder. Good grief.

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Actually, I'm not that curious. The interviewers should leave well enough alone and that would leave the strange woman high and dry. The woman knew exactly what she was doing and took that risk by carrying 8 babies.

I'm wondering if she didn't seek IVF treatment in Mexico....

I so hope that no MD in the United States would have performed this procedure--knowing that the woman already had 6 kids, wasn't married, was living w/ her parents, plus knowing how risky it would be for a woman, any woman, to carry 7-8 babies!

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2 million dollars for the first interview. Am I missing something here, first and foremost was the health and well being of this 8 little tiny babies, who even with twins there runs so many health risks, especially under developed lungs and most of them need oxegen, so many are born with heart defects, and blind or hearing loss and the list of health problems go on and on, I cannot believe that someone would risk all that for 2 million dollars which today after taxes and raising 14 kids is nothing if you look at the whole picture. No father, medical costs, feeding, diapers, housing, clothes, school and so on and so forth till their 18 and what about college. I know I might be talking way way down the line, but this is plain sick and again I am sure the story and sad saga will continue to come to light.... Catherine

I am curious who is paying her 2 million for an interview? I can't say that I am surprised as everyone will be watching to see just how sane/insane she comes off.

Do you really think that she did it for the money all along? I am not so sure, as the only reason this made such headlines is because she had eight babies. What is the liklihood that she would actually have eight babies?

This is such a sad situation. As I do not think she should get rich from this, but the children do not deserve to suffer anymore than they should have to. Financial security will not take the place of a dad, but will make their lives a little easier.

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Kinda reminds me of the movie. Cheaper by the dozen.

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At least they had two parents raising a dozen kids. It's just her and her elderly parents, and the poor parents should not have to help out in this capacity.

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Tax payers will pay for those children until they reach 18 or whatever the age is...she will get one heck of a welfare check!!!!!! i think she needs her head examined....Sherri

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I think her parents might have spoiled her. They bought her that small house and now have gone so bad into debt that they had to file bankruptcy and move in with her. The dad is going to his native Iraq to work as an interpreter. I would probably try to get out of there, too! The grandmother had said she had sought counseling to deal with the issue of her daughter wanting more and more babies and they told her to quit supporting the daughter and maybe she would quit having so many babies. Hmmm...

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From what I have read, no one has actually offered her two million, that is what she is saying that she wants to be paid for the first interview. She hired an agent and wants to have a TV show so she can offer expert advise on how to parent children. I am still laughing over that one....
Her own mother thinks she has some issues with reality. Hmmmm..ya think!

There was a note in a story yesterday or the day before that she might actually work at the IVF clinic. Her family is also claiming that "way less" than 8 embryos were implanted, but that they split & multiplied because she has been on fertility drugs for so long.
She is a wackadoodle, and her parents are trapped with 14 grandchildren they feel responsible for and a useless daughter.

Whatever money she receives from interviews, pictures, endorsments, etc, should go directly to Kaiser to pay towards the millions in medical expenses that she has incured. Why should Kaiser foot the bill for her irresponsible breeding while she becomes a millionaire?

"Why should Kaiser foot the bill for her irresponsible breeding while she becomes a millionaire? " We, as american taxpayers, foot the bill for irresponsible breeding every single day.

I think the MD who did the IVF needs to be evaluated....

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[quote=dannic;3150897]"Why should Kaiser foot the bill for her irresponsible breeding while she becomes a millionaire? " We, as american taxpayers, foot the bill for irresponsible breeding every single day.

Yes, but most irresponsible breeders don't become millionaires overnight.

Should she be allowed to take the children home if she can not provide for them?
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I really think America needs to start looking at this - just because you can breed doesn't mean you should have children - If you don't have a home and food and clothing - you should not be allowed to take a child home from the hospital - this is why young girls have babies - the government will provide them with an apartment and welfare and food stamps and WIC- if they had to move into a dorm attend parenting classes and eat at the soup kitchen - maybe there wouldn't be a bunch of children who don't know who their father is

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Well said. We really need to bring back personal responsibility.

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I don't think that this woman's desire for a massive brood is any different than the Dugger's desire for a massive brood.

She's received a lot of offers for books and television interviews. You never know, TLC may offer her a deal too. She should be able to remain self sufficeint. She's pretty well educated.

I wont watch any of those large family shows. they are obviously showing other people and some "not all there" type people that look, you have a huge amount of offspring and you'll get your own tv show, and paid for pictures and paid for endorsing products ect. so all these people have all these kids and the "wow" factor wears off and then what. We've already got tons of people loseing jobs and the government aid will only support so many people before it crashes. How is that one mom going to give personal time to 14 kids, hard enough with my four. Not many guys going to marry someone with 14 kids that's not already a few crayons short of a pack or a prev.

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I think there is a big difference between the Duggers and this women. Although I think the Duggers are a little nuts too!
As for her being self sufficeint, her mother has done several interviews in which she has stated that her daughter has NOT had a job in years. How is that self sufficeint? Her parents have been the ones to support the six children she already has, they even purchased the home she is living in for her and the children. In fact, her parents ended up going bankrupt because of helping her. Her mother has also stated that they are done helping her. These children are slated to cost at least $75,000 per child, per year to raise. This mother is unemployeed, and although she did at one time have a tech. license, she lost that years ago because she did not continue to work the hours needed to maintain it. So, at this point she couldn't work in the field she is *well educated* in, even if she wanted to. As for her hopes of becoming a tv star...and giving parenting advice, I don't think too many people would take her seriously...

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