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Old 01-31-2009, 05:15 PM
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KY Governor Praises Obama Administration for prompt response to the ice storm

Nice to know the system is working as well as it can for those hit by the recent ice storm.

"Beshear praised the Obama administration's prompt reaction to the storm. Obama declared parts of the state a federal disaster area Wednesday evening.

"They really hit the ground running," he said. "They're working very hard to get all the equipment and supplies here that we need."

I was in Kansas City in Feb 2002 when we got hit by a killer ice storm. 600,000 without power. The streets couldn't be opened up for emergency crews because so many trees snapped under the weight of the ice. We were without power for a week. We were lucky, some went without for 2 weeks.

It was over 3 months before all the tree debris was finally cleared. It was dangerous for the kids to cross streets because the trees were piled 6 feet high along the streets waiting for the dump trucks and the kids couldn't see traffic and the traffic couldn't see them.

Ice happens. St. Louis had a killer ice storm in 2007.

I hope those affected by this storm are able to get back to normal soon.
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Old 01-31-2009, 06:16 PM
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Hate to interrupt President Obama, but thanks!!!!
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Nightowlrn thanks so so much for the update I for one who supports our new President this is wonderful news to hear that the the people who were effected by a horrible ice storm has received aid to help them in this crisis. Peace. Catherine
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Nice to know the system is working as well as it can for those hit by the recent ice storm.

"Beshear praised the Obama administration's prompt reaction to the storm. Obama declared parts of the state a federal disaster area Wednesday evening.

"They really hit the ground running," he said. "They're working very hard to get all the equipment and supplies here that we need."

I was in Kansas City in Feb 2002 when we got hit by a killer ice storm. 600,000 without power. The streets couldn't be opened up for emergency crews because so many trees snapped under the weight of the ice. We were without power for a week. We were lucky, some went without for 2 weeks.

It was over 3 months before all the tree debris was finally cleared. It was dangerous for the kids to cross streets because the trees were piled 6 feet high along the streets waiting for the dump trucks and the kids couldn't see traffic and the traffic couldn't see them.

Ice happens. St. Louis had a killer ice storm in 2007.

I hope those affected by this storm are able to get back to normal soon.

LINK Please???? I cant seem to find one...but maybe I am just overlooking it....here is what I did find...

President Barack Obama on Thursday issued a federal disaster declaration in Kentucky, but Beshear said he’s requesting the state be declared a “major disaster area” by the president. The distinction allows more and quicker federal assistance, including personnel to help with the clean-up and response.

Seems our Governor wasnt satisfied with the disaster declaration....we wont get as much aid or help unless its declared a major distaster area...I guess people freezing to death in their homes isnt disaster enough....and this was issued on Thursday 5 days after the storm it......Not good enough.....here's link..Sherri

The News and Tribune - Beshear activates 'virtually entire National Guard'
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:56 PM
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Thanks for the link Sherri. What a mess. THose poor folks. Reminds me of the midwest floods we all endured here.
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Old 01-31-2009, 10:58 PM
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UPDATE: On Thursday....5 days after the storm hit....President Barack Obama on Thursday issued a federal disaster declaration in Kentucky, but Beshear said he’s requesting the state be declared a “major disaster area” by the president. The distinction allows more and quicker federal assistance, including personnel to help with the clean-up and response.

The News and Tribune - Beshear activates 'virtually entire National Guard'

“We’ve never seen a disaster of this magnitude,” said Brigadier Gen. John Heltzel, director of Kentucky’s Division of Emergency Management.

“It’s the biggest natural disaster this state has ever seen in modern times,” said Gov. Steve Beshear in announcing the call up of “virtually the entire Kentucky National Guard.”

Obama decided we werent in a full scale disaster...so he issued a disaster declaration....So Ky and other states wont get as much money in aid...I guess he needs to save some of that for his 800 billion stimulus package and some for Gaza...Sherri
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Old 01-31-2009, 11:27 PM
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The fine Senator from KY doesn't seem disappointed with the Federal response either..
Senator Mitch McConnell - Press Releases

"“I’m pleased to say that the President did respond quickly, and declared a federal emergency in most of Kentucky. Doing that has triggered the release of urgently needed federal authority and funds that will give the people of my State the help they desperately need. ..I want to thank the Governor for his quick and decisive action, as well as President Obama for his speedy response. It is making a real difference in the lives of Kentuckians as we speak. "

Seriously, if you start picking at things like this, no one is going to take you seriously when Obama really does make a big decision that doesn't work out well. I thought KY voters don't want big gov't intervention and believe in self-suffiency anyway ???? What happened to that?
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Old 01-31-2009, 11:35 PM
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I wouldnt call 5 days later PROMPT.......Sherri
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Old 01-31-2009, 11:37 PM
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Thanks for the link Sherri. What a mess. THose poor folks. Reminds me of the midwest floods we all endured here.
Exactly my point.
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Sher218 you truly cannot say anything nice about our new President, what can he do to make anything better in your eyes??? Catherine
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Sher218 you truly cannot say anything nice about our new President, what can he do to make anything better in your eyes??? Catherine
There are people here still so full of bitterness. Sad really.
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Nightowlrn I totally agree and have stated before we had ex president Bush for 8 years its not even been 2 weeks and for some they want 4 years to come and out with the new President. We gave Bush 8 years it is not equally fair to at least give our New President the same hope and trust???/. I suggest it would be only fair thing to do.. Again Obama is not perfect and nor was Bush, Bush has his chance , now its up to our new Leader so kindly give a chance. Thanks. Peace. CAtherine
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I keep looking at KY and thinking of something else. LOL Yeah, I know its the official abbreviation and all, I guess I just don't mail to Kentucky or read/write about Kentucky very often......but I don't recall the Kentucky Derby being called the KY Derby before.

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Old 02-01-2009, 09:22 AM
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I guess I see you could be upset with the whole power thing but man o man. I live in Ohio and I've been in ice storms with no power for days and I never got federal aid. Geez. I had to deal with it. I don't see the anger some are having with President Obama on this one.
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Old 02-01-2009, 01:06 PM
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I wouldnt call 5 days later PROMPT.......Sherri
Still bitter I see? You really need to visit sites and listen to news and radio that offers more than the point of view you so want to be the truth that you are willing to dismiss every fact that points otherwise.

Why the heck hasn't President Obama done anything in the last 5 days. Oh, that's right, he did.

# Federal Aid Programs For Missouri Disaster Recovery, Jan 30
# President Announces Emergency Declaration For Missouri, Jan 30
# Federal Aid Programs For Washington Disaster Recovery, Jan 30
# President Declares Major Disaster For Washington, Jan 30
# FEMA Coordinates Federal Assistance After Winter Weather Impacts The Central United States, Jan 30
# Federal Aid Programs For Kentucky Disaster Recovery, Jan 29
# President Announces Emergency Declaration For Kentucky, Jan 29
# Federal Aid Programs For Arkansas Disaster Recovery, Jan 29
# President Announces Emergency Declaration For Arkansas, Jan 29
# Adverse Winter Weather: FEMA Urges Citizens to be Cautious, Jan 27
# Adverse Winter Weather: FEMA Urges Citizens to be Cautious, Jan 27

Here's an article for a KY newpaper. A curse on MSM you say?

More than 607,000 without power; state struggles to recover - State - Kentucky.com


"President Barack Obama issued a federal emergency disaster declaration for Kentucky and Arkansas late Wednesday. By noon Thursday, 50 generators large enough to power hospitals or water treatment plants arrived at Fort Campbell for distribution."

"Five communication vans for emergency operations were on their way to Western Kentucky, where there were widespread cell and land-line phone outages. Federal Emergency Management Agency staff were expected to arrive soon to help with damage assessments."

"Gov. SteveBeshear said Thursday during a tour of Western Kentucky that Obama called him about 9 p.m. Wednesday and they spoke for about 10 minutes. "I talked with him about the various trouble spots we had, the lack of drinking water in some places, having to get heat to many of our shelters and nursing homes, and the widespread power outages," Beshear said. "He expressed his concern for the folks of Kentucky and wanted to let everyone know his thoughts and prayers were with us all."

"Obama completed the disaster emergency paperwork in less than an hour, Beshear said. Obama signed the declaration after 10:30 p.m. Wednesday. The disaster declaration will bring federal resources and staff to the state. Federal officials are hauling truckloads of water, ready-to-eat meals and the large generators to a staging area at Fort Campbell in southwestern Kentucky, said Mary Hudak, a spokeswoman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency's southeast region. The water trucks will help in some 55 water districts that don't have power. About 93,000 people statewide were without access to water by midday Thursday, said Monica French, a spokeswoman for the Kentucky Division of Emergency Management.

"Beshear said the federal government approved the state's request for FEMA to conduct damage assessments immediately, rather than the normal process of waiting for local officials to make the estimates first. "It will move the federal reimbursement process along faster than it normally would," Beshear said."

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"Mike Turnbow, chief deputy sheriff in McCracken County, said many people have been calling police and the sheriff, asking officers to check on elderly neighbors. "So far, so good," Turnbow said. "Many of the older people say, 'I'm fine. I've been through this before, and I'm not leaving.'"
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Old 02-01-2009, 02:32 PM
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We were also in the ice storm, we only had 3 inches of ice and the past 2 days it has been in the 60's so most has melted away (we still have some in our yard). So we we're not nearly as bad as KY and some other areas.

I am not understanding why we (the American public) thinks the government is supposed to come to our rescue no matter what. We need to start being responsible for ourselves. When I heard the ice storm was coming I went to the store and stocked up on the essentials like bread, milk, etc. I didn't need a whole lot because we ALWAYS make sure we are prepared for an emergency with bottled water, canned food that does not need to be cooked, batteries, battery operated tv/radio, etc. We keep emergency supplies on hand at all times. The same thing with people having an alternative heat source. People need to be prepared for anything/anytime. We did not lose power, but if we had we have plenty of blankets, we also have a gas heater that would not heat the whole house, but would keep the house warm enough for the pipes/us to not freeze. I am just not understanding why people can't take responsibility for themselves. It's not like we didn't have some warning on this ice storm, we had at LEAST a weeks notice that it was going to be BAD. People can buy themselves a generator (in advance) if they are worried about possibly being without electricy.

Yes, emergency supplies cost money, as do generators and other things, but I guess it just depends what our priorities are. I bet many of these people COULD afford to purchase these items, but their priorites lie elsewhere like driving newer vehicles, video game systems for their kids, that type thing. If someone is really serious about being prepared they will FIND a way, it will become a priority for them. Anyway, I'll stop ranting now. I just think we need to take more responsibility for ourselves and not rely on the government for everything.
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There are people here still so full of bitterness. Sad really.
Yes there are and you were one of them when Bush was President. I am glad to see your bitterness is all gone....but I guess you were among the Sad back then.....Amazing how some people see things in others and they cant see it in themselves...Amazing..Sherri
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Sher218 you truly cannot say anything nice about our new President, what can he do to make anything better in your eyes??? Catherine
Resign!!!!!!!!! No I wont say anything nice about him until he does something I think is worthy of saying something nice about...he is a wolf in sheeps clothing and I stick to that...Sherri
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Yes there are and you were one of them when Bush was President. I am glad to see your bitterness is all gone....but I guess you were among the Sad back then.....Amazing how some people see things in others and they cant see it in themselves...Amazing..Sherri
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Sher218 you want President Obama to resign what after only 2 weeks in office , in less then 2 weeks what has he done so bad that you want him to resign after 2 weeks, Again totally shaking my head in disbelief. You talk about people who harbor ill feelings towards Bush, Sher218 we gave him 8 years 8 years how many times must I repeat myself and others as well. 2 weeks compared to 8 years is like minutes..... Totally unreal and nighttowlrn wrote everything out that President Obama has done for Kentucky, still not enough??? Catherine
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Yes there are and you were one of them when Bush was President.
I voted for him in 2000, in spite of what Rove did to Sen. McCain and his general lack of intellgence. But, I am a fiscal conservative and took the bait hook, line, and sinker. I should have seen the writing on the wall then. It wasn't until I realized that adminstration lied to us, used fear tactics to get the US citizens to bang the war drums, made thoughtful dissent a treasonous concept, and started to push through a neocon agenda after 9/11 that I realized I had made the wrong choice.

I really liked Bush until I started to read the 1990's writings of Wolfowitz, Pearl, Rumsfeld and Cheney after we invaded Iraq (A small country we could take over quickly - or so they thought- yet who had nothing to do with 9/11). I believe the agenda of that administration from the get go was to get a footprint in the middle east. 9/11 was the perfect opening for them.

I also got a taste of his "fiscal conservatism" as a Federal employee involved in Medicare D (what a boondoggle that one is) and a lot of other contracting issues that clearly padded pockets. Not to mention the incompetence at high level political appointments that became apparent to me during the summer of 2004.

President Obama is more conservative, more Christian, and certainly more honest to us, than the previous administration. I am starting to think that is what has the wingnuts and racists so tied up in knots.

IMO - single issue religious voters ought to be mad as all get out at the previous adminstration and should have known a McCain administration would be playing you all like fiddles, too. I mean, honestly, a Republican controlled Congress and White House and tell me how much of your agenda went through? Yet, they played to you and got your votes. Really, just how Christian is invading a country that did nothing to us? Brilliant political savvy on their part to make it look like some Christian honor to support invading and killing people who could care less about us. And, brilliant again to associate flag waving and religion. Perhaps the angst over President Obama is actually displaced anger after realizing they've been pimped for 8 years.???

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[quote]President Obama is more conservative, more Christian, and certainly more honest to us, than the previous administration. I am starting to think that is what has the wingnuts and racists so tied up in knots.[quote]

You really think you know him that well????? MOre conservative...he wants to kill more babies...he gave his first interview to Muslims...More Christian...Can you judge his heart?? Can you see just how christian he is???? You act like you know him personally, he has already gone back on his word by naming lobbyist as his cabinet members, which he said he would never do.....Do you call that honest...maybe you know him much better than I, but I would never say that about any President, not even Bush....I didnt know his personal life that well...maybe you have more insight than I but he has already proven he isnt honest...and Christian..I cant judge that....I dont know his heart...More conservative....well that goes without saying.....Most Conservatives believe in saving babies not killing them....Sherri
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[quote=sher218;3150613][quote]President Obama is more conservative, more Christian, and certainly more honest to us, than the previous administration. I am starting to think that is what has the wingnuts and racists so tied up in knots.
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You really think you know him that well????? MOre conservative...he wants to kill more babies...he gave his first interview to Muslims...More Christian...Can you judge his heart?? Can you see just how christian he is???? You act like you know him personally, he has already gone back on his word by naming lobbyist as his cabinet members, which he said he would never do.....Do you call that honest...maybe you know him much better than I, but I would never say that about any President, not even Bush....I didnt know his personal life that well...maybe you have more insight than I but he has already proven he isnt honest...and Christian..I cant judge that....I dont know his heart...More conservative....well that goes without saying.....Most Conservatives believe in saving babies not killing them....Sherri
You need to accept the fact that abortion is legal in this country. When Republicans had complete control of the White House and Congress, they introduced no legislation to overturn Roe vs Wade. Obama has done nothing that would increase the number of abortions either here or abroad. In a time when few would choose to bring a child into this world, the best preventative measure would be access to birth control. The Republicans insisted, however, that that measure be removed.

Obama gave his first interview to Al Arabiya, a news station located in Saudi Arabia and broadcast throughout the Middle East. You may not be aware of this fact, but we are not well regarded in this area at all because of the mighty actions of your beloved Bush. This country must repair our relationships with other countries and recover our reputation. Another fact that you may not be aware of is that all who live in the ME are not Muslims. There are many Christians and Jews throughout the region.

I am aware of two exceptions that Omana made regarding former lobbyists. I do know that he has not appointed any felons (like Bush) and that the people that he has appointed are well qualified for their positions and not super fundraisers.

As far as tax problems go, I do think that the code should be simplified. Did you know that in the past 8 years no one with incomes over $100,000 has been audited?
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You really think you know him that well????? MOre conservative...he wants to kill more babies...he gave his first interview to Muslims...More Christian...Can you judge his heart?? Can you see just how christian he is???? You act like you know him personally, he has already gone back on his word by naming lobbyist as his cabinet members, which he said he would never do.....Do you call that honest...maybe you know him much better than I, but I would never say that about any President, not even Bush....I didnt know his personal life that well...maybe you have more insight than I but he has already proven he isnt honest...and Christian..I cant judge that....I dont know his heart...More conservative....well that goes without saying.....Most Conservatives believe in saving babies not killing them....Sherri

Sherri, your overuse of ellipsis and interrogation points make your posts very hard to read.
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I have to agree. I think that is the part that gets me with all the Obama followers, they act like they are friends with him or his family and they know his thoughts and ideas.
How ridiculous! I am an Obama supporter and what have I said that would sound like I personally know him, his family or thoughts???? You said ALL Obama followers so please inform me.
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President Obama is more conservative, more Christian, and certainly more honest to us, than the previous administration. I am starting to think that is what has the wingnuts and racists so tied up in knots.

You need to accept the fact that abortion is legal in this country. When Republicans had complete control of the White House and Congress, they introduced no legislation to overturn Roe vs Wade. Obama has done nothing that would increase the number of abortions either here or abroad. In a time when few would choose to bring a child into this world, the best preventative measure would be access to birth control. The Republicans insisted, however, that that measure be removed.

Obama gave his first interview to Al Arabiya, a news station located in Saudi Arabia and broadcast throughout the Middle East. You may not be aware of this fact, but we are not well regarded in this area at all because of the mighty actions of your beloved Bush. This country must repair our relationships with other countries and recover our reputation. Another fact that you may not be aware of is that all who live in the ME are not Muslims. There are many Christians and Jews throughout the region.

I am aware of two exceptions that Omana made regarding former lobbyists. I do know that he has not appointed any felons (like Bush) and that the people that he has appointed are well qualified for their positions and not super fundraisers.

As far as tax problems go, I do think that the code should be simplified. Did you know that in the past 8 years no one with incomes over $100,000 has been audited?
Where are you getting this information??

I found this sight, still looking for other sources.

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I disagree with the audit comment.... I made more then that and I was audited TWICE.
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I disagree with the audit comment.... I made more then that and I was audited TWICE.
I am only talking about the Bush years and a single income household. Above, that level and audits are almost non existent.

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I am only talking about the Bush years and a single income household. Above, that level and audits are almost non existent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/16/bu...=44&sq=&st=nyt

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/11/bu...115&sq=&st=nyt
You said "As far as tax problems go, I do think that the code should be simplified. Did you know that in the past 8 years no one with incomes over $100,000 has been audited?"

The quote below is directly from the first article you have linked above. Did you read the article yourself??


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Audits of those making more than $100,000, the 11 percent or so of Americans who pay about 80 percent of individual income taxes, rose to more than 256,000 from just fewer than 100,000, a jump of 163 percent. The odds went from 1 in 104 to 1 in 59.

At the very top, those making more than $1 million a year, the data showed that from 2004 to 2006 the number of audits rose 77 percent, from almost 9,600 to 17,000. But more than half of those audits were only letters asking for documentation."
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Old 02-03-2009, 11:49 PM
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Sherri, your overuse of ellipsis and interrogation points make your posts very hard to read.

THen dont read.......Sherri
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