Did anyone watch the video on the view today, about actress Ashley Judd talking about the innocent violent killing of wolves which Sarah Palin is in charge of. This is plain sick sick and horrible. As a huge animal lover and activist, this is senseless, Now for one I am a vegetarian have been for many many years, if you choose to eat meat of course that is your business and your right to do so. However when it comes to hunters who kill for the pure sport its sickening to my stomach and finally I so wish they these so called hunters and killers would put their guns down and fight man to animal to kill and see what happens. These poor innocent defense less wolves are killed with bullets from mid air and let to die a pain and slow death from bullet wounds. On a final note our pets which we all love and keep in our home which have been domesticated are direct desecents from wolves. If she is thinking there are too many of the wolves, why not stop at wolves go after every other over populated animals. Now I for one am a very responsible pet owner and I know there are many many neglected and ferrel cats and dogs and of course we need to have stricter laws to prevent so many from being born. However I watched the video I knew it would break my heart and it does. Of course Elizabeth Hasselback at to go off topic and bring up abortions, truly did not anything to do with the killing of wolves. Sickening and again my heart breaks for those animals. Edited to say as Sir Paul McCarthy quotes if slaughter mills were made with glass we all would be vegetarians.....A silence prayer for animals that are hunter and killed for fun, for eating ok its your choice, otherwise, hunters are idiots plain and simple.....Catherine

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Anyone who so desperately defends innocent animals should be equally disturbed with the abortion industry. Not only are they killing innocent human beings it's also a huge business. Elizabeth was correct to draw a correlation. As you yourself quoted Paul M. - how do you think you would feel if you actually watched an abortion? How can it not disturb you to see tiny body parts being ripped apart? They don't rip apart the wolves into little pieces. I hope all animal rights people and vegetarians use absolutely no animal part either-no leather, etc.... I admit I do not understand pleasure hunting in the least. Hunting for food or to thin herds for their benefit I can understand.
Check out Silent Scream and watch that video and let me know if it affects you the same way as the killing of wolves.

Hunting is a means of population control. Wolves, unchecked, will dessimate a herd of cattle. Wolves, unchecked, could become a hunter of men.

There is no other method of population control for wild animals as efficient and as inexpensive as allowing hunting for sport. In most states, hunting is actually a source of income for a state. In some states, "big game" hunting (bear, moose, elk, bison, etc.) is a MAJOR source of income for states--Montana, Wyoming, North and South Dakota, Alaska among other states DEPEND on the income that out-of-state hunters bring into their economy.

I swear to God, the people who complain about how brutal and sick hunting is has absolutely NO COMMON SENSE. Ashley Judd needs to shut the hell up!

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I am simply quoting you, this is not directed at you ( this time! ) There are a LOT of people who need to take heed of your last sentence, and yet won't. Those people will go on and on and on and on and on and on and never, ever know they are killing in their own form. When they are excessive, their point is missed, dismissed, and not taken seriously.

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I am not a hunter, although I fully respect the rights of people who do like to hunt. We live in a small town in the country, alot of our friends live further out in the country. Around here, wolves and coyotes come into your yard, in the country, and kill your goats, sheep, cows, chickens, cats, dogs and anything else they can get hold of. Pretty much everyone here owns a gun and yes you have to shoot the coyotes and wolves to protect your animals. I have been at a cookout when wolves have approached and the homeowner had to get his gun out, this was in the middle of the day, kids swimming in the pool, people grilling food out, we were out picking peaches off the trees in the orchard and wolves started coming up. In some cases you do have to protect yourself. When you live in the country, this can be an everyday occurrance. Do I own a gun, yes. Would I think twice about using it if approched by a wild animal, no.

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Sorry Catherine. . .I have to agree with what others here are saying. Maybe you have to have lived or grown up where wild animal populations can be a real danger to people and their pets or livelihood. We have cougar problems here. They will come right down onto school playgrounds. I would rather control the cougar population than have to listen to how some kindergartener got mauled. I have no problems with animal population control like this. It's actually humane. Would I be able to shoot a wolf? No. . .but I haven't ever been able to put a pet down either. It doesn't mean that it's not the right thing to do. And I do agree with Kathy. . .it amazes me that people that are sooo concerned about some starving, aggressive wolf in Alaska can not be concerned about innocent children. I like McCartney's quote. . .abortion clinics should have glass walls and be broadcast on youtube 24/7. I bet some people would change their minds and their hearts.

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To all whom have posted so far, please please stay on topic, I am not talking about abortions, this thread is not about abortions, if anyone feels they want to start a thread about abortions then kindly do so okay I would deeply appreciate it very much. And I stand firm, killing innocent animals just for the sport in my honest feelings are they are crowards out and out. Like I said before they want to kill innocent animas then do it fair and attack with their hands..I am all for people whom hunt and use the meat as for personal comspution sp.. to stay alive to feed hungry people , but there is no way anyone can tell me hunting just for the sport if right , its not and its plain cruel..Catherine

Hambirg I totally agree with you about the abortions , sorry I did not read your post, however again, I would like if we could stick to the topic and again if someone wants to start a thread about abortions kindly feel free..Catherine

For the love of God, can't you discuss ANYTHING without bringing abortion into it? FYI, the slow, painful death the wolves suffer bother me more than a woman choosing what happens to her fetus but you aren't going to outlaw abortion by posting about the topic on MY COUPONS BOARD. Either deal with the fact that a woman gets to choose whether to abort her pregnancy or do something to change the laws and force those women to produce hundreds of thousands of unwanted children they won't take care of or support. Just telling The Cafe OVER AND OVER how much you hate abortion is a waste of your time and ours. It's easy to be an armchair fanatic but it doesn't accomplish anything except to make yourself feel noble. Why don't you get off the computer and DO something about it instead of just railing against abortion all the time?

That said, I agree with Ashley Judd about the slaughter of the wolves. I understand population control but am appalled at the people who think killing wolves makes them a sportsman. If they're killing them for population control, then call it population control because it's NOT hunting. It's akin to shooting a cow in a field. Sitting in the safety of a helicopter and picking wolves off from the air with a rifle is not 'hunting' and there's nothing sporting about it - it's cowardly and horrible. Some of these people are paying wads of money to kill these animals they don't eat and are enjoying doing it. Those people are killers - not hunters. Anybody who thinks that shooting wolves is an enjoyable pastime is sick and anyone who kills animals for fun isn't a hunter - they're just a murderer.

I'm sure it's Bush's fault. No wait, it could be Obama's fault.

There, now we have politics involved, this thread is well rounded !

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opaldancing thanks so much for what you wrote I deeply deeply appreciate it very very much.... deddlastt, honestly for my love of all animals this is not about poltics at all, so whether it was Bush, Palin, Biden, Clinton, Obama or Jane Doe I would feel the same hatred .... Animals feel the same pain as we humans do only they cannot talk .....sad......heartbreaking...cruel..... cowards ..... Catherine

Did you really mean this? Suffering wolves bother you more than suffering babies? And, yes, there is a significant percentage of abortions that live outside the womb, and they are then left unattended to suffer until they die. Just google born alive infant protection act.

Now I don't like for any creature to suffer needlessly but I have to say that I value human life more than an animal's life.

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Sorry Catherine, I didn't mean to continue off topic but I had to clarify if Opaldancing really meant to say that or if it was a typo.

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Duh. Abortion was mentioned by the original poster so I think it's fair game. If not, it shouldn't have been mentioned.
Hambirg got my point completely, too bad you can't digest it.

Thank you very much Igotscammed. And concerning this act, the nonpartison group FactCheck.org has corroborated that Obama voted against legislation that passed overwhelmingly on the federal level and then misrepresented his vote. I would have so much more respect for Ashley Judd and others if they cared as much about babies in the womb as they do animals. They are innocent victims.

Kathytheshopper I am sorry, I know I the op mentioned Abortion only because Elizabeth mentioned it today on the show , perhaps I should have not mentioned it... No problem I just want it to say on the topic if possible because talking about Abortion of course is a really really sad fact of life..Catherine

And another sad fact of life is controlling animal populations.

Yes kathy I agree with you on that , I know if all animals survived, we would be run over by them, ants alone while insects out number us in zillions. I am not questioning that, I am merely againist hunting for the sport and I also feel it is not necessary to kill that many animals those are my true points and this is very sore with me since I dearly love animals and have been a vegetarian..Hope this explains more...Thanks kathy... Catherine

I CAN digest it - I'm just tired of you serving the same fare over and over! Shame that YOU can't digest Deddlastts post.

I don't get hunting just for the sake of hunting either. I'm not a big animal fan, as you can probably tell, but hunting for the "fun" of hunting seems a bit sadistic. But then again, I have not really grown up around hunters so I don't know their mindset that well.

thanks Kathy I believe it to be sadistic as well/ Like I said this is a free country if a animal is killed and used for food then its okay for people who choose to eat meat. But just to go out there and think hunting is a sport, i will never ever support that ever ever its a total shame and senseless to me. Peace. Catherine

I agree 100%....I am an animal LOVER!!! BUT, we have coyotes around here and you have to be careful....They will kill your dogs, or God forbid get ahold of one of your children....A neighbor of mine back in the summer had to kill a bobcat that was in his drive way, staring him right in the face and then tryed to attack his dog....his children thank God were in the house.....Another neighbor about 3 miles down the road was setting on her front porch about dusk and a small black bear crossed her driveway and run up into the woods behind her house...she took a gun out with her for weeks fearing it would come back.....You put a bobcat around one of my children and its dead....I wouldnt hesitate for 1 second....All of this is from over population....I dont believe in being cruel to animals but some need to be hunted to reduce the population...just for the reasons listed above...Sherri

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cjs216 can I kindly ask what you mean by Lord have mercy???. thanks. Catherine

I agree, cjs216.

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You mention that in your circumstance, there is an overpopulation of bobcats. Maybe there is not an overpopulation, but it's possible that people are indeed infringing on their territory when construction trickles out to rural areas. I really think that is something that needs to realized and respected.

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crittles thanks so much and for anyone who did not view the video of the wolves getting shot from bullets and left to die and hear their cries...again senseless and pathetic...Catherine

I think if you want the "sport" of hunting, then you should get off your butt and go into the wilds and do so. "Hunting" from a helicopter is not hunting. It's slaughter. The only time I could see using a helicopter, is if there is a singular animal that needs to be found quickly and dispatched. A true sportsman should be ashamed that this practice is allowed. Anyone who thinks what they are doing from that helicopter is hunting, should have their head examined.

Wildwood, exactly my point, its not hunting its plain slaughter.....and cruel.Try to remember the cycle of life from the Lion King and let the animals continue the chain of life and food. Truly senseless....heartbreaking...cowards....Catherine

I don't see hunting from helicopters as any different than hunting on the ground. I really thing some of you are being very judgmental about people you really know nothing about here.

If there is an overpopulation issue, it is what it is, and it needs to be kept in control in the most expedient way. Do I think it's a good thing if somebody finds his or her daily highlight to be shooting animals from helicopters? I guess I don't really know. If you've experienced or seen the devastation that can occur because of an overpopulation of a particular animal, I can see how reducing the population might give you a sense of peace.

For several years in a row, my widowed mother hit deer in the dark while driving home. She had vehicles totaled and it could be said that she is fortunate to be alive.

None of us shed any great tears when they allowed hunters to get more than the usual number of deer, because it meant that what happened to my mom was less likely to happen again. Personally, I would not have cared how they curbed the population. If they are going to shoot the deer, whether they do it at eye level or from the air doesn't change the experience for the deer. It's dead. Period. End of story.

If an individual has some creepy personality disorder where they are fixated with the idea of killing and blood and such, then I believe that person to be a sordid individual in need of some serious therapy. But that's not what we are talking about here. We are talking about people whose JOB is keeping the wildlife population in check. If allowed to live, those wolves would have killed OTHER helpless, defenseless animals limb by limb, ripping off their appendages while they tried to run off, often stealing baby deer from their mother's sides while the helpless, defenseless mother tried desperately to save it.

Watch Discovery Channel for five minutes and you'll see that what the wolf does to other animals is many times more inhumane in terms of violence than a sharp shooter taking down a wolf from above.

ETA: Cathrine, please don't pretend to be surprised and innocent - or if it is not an act, please work to not be so naive as to believe that you can throw out a thread title invoking the name of a politician and a post that brings up abortion and then get in a flustered tizzy when people view it as a political attack and feel free to follow up on things you threw in there, such as the abortion line. You can't zing like that and then play the 'hurt' card when people do likewise. If you want a one-sided discussion in which you are the only one allowed to have side thoughts and make side comments that might stir pots, and then to tie the hands (or fingers, as it were) of those who might have a dissenting voice, then you need to keep these thoughts as conversations in your own mind with yourself.

Maybe I am wrong, but to me (personally) I have never been hunting, have no wish to. But it would seem to me, that the mindset of the "hunt" is to give chase, to...oh I am so not finding the right words right now for what I am trying to say..I mean, part of the "thrill of the hunt" is the fact that you may not catch what you are hunting for. That they may get away. With the method described from what I saw of it (I couldn't finish watching it), it would seem that there is not a chance in hell that the animal is going to get away. I mean, you fly over, in winter, when their coat makes them stick out real good so you can't miss seeing them, above them where they can't defend themselves by fighting back, and shoot them. I am all for population control. But there are other ways of doing it.

From what I have seen of actual hunting. It involves some sort of sport. Some sort of chance for the animal, that's the whole point of it. This isn't hunting. It is just plain "shooting fish in a barrel". I agree with hunting. Honestly. I think it is a great way to get food, control populations, etc. But this isn't hunting. It's killing to be killing.

Sorry if I seem to be talking in circles, but like I said I cannot seem to find the right words to express what I am trying to say here. I agree with HUNTING. And POPULATION CONTROL. I just don't think this is either humane nor necessary. I am absolutely positive there are way better ways of doing this. I mean, if you really want to split hares, they are wasting gasoline by flying all over the place looking for wolves.

Ok THIS ^^ is what I was trying to say above when I was talking in circles. Thank you Wildwood, for expressing it better than me

I think Ashley Judd needs to stick to what she does -- an actress and nothing more.

We have to have a thinning of the herd or you will have diseased wolves, you'll have so many wolves they'll be attacking livestock, they'll be hungry, thus attacking livestock. It is hard to see animals killed but it's part of life. When I'm watching a movie, I absolutely hate to see an animal get shot or fall down (even though I know it's not real), or watching the real thing on a nature show or something of an animal killing another animal.

In our area, we have an over-abundance of deer, and sharpshooters are hired to thin out the population. It has to be done. They will die of disease, spread disease, ruin crops and they cause many automobile accidents.

What was the song Elton John sang "Circle of Life"??

We have an abundance of deer here locally in a large park. They have said they have 400 too many deer. The city is currently trying to decide what to do. There were several cases of lyme disease in the area last year due to the ticks from the deer. I hate watching the killing of animals as well, but the sad fact is it's a necessary part of life. I think the city should just open up an extra deer season or let the hunters take more than usual to thin them out.

We also have a coyote issue. The coyotes are killing dogs all the time around here. They've just approved humane trapping to see if that helps, but may have to take more aggressive mesasures if it doesn't work.

I wish people would hunt these stupid Canadian Geese, too. I hate them! A few years ago there were too many gathering in our local zoo. They were attacking zoo visitors and eating the zoo animals food. The city okayed a bunch of them to be rounded up and slaughtered and the meat was given to the local food banks. I thought it a great solution, but the PETA types went crazy over it.

I personally think Ashley Judd may be an animal lover, but personally I see this as more of a personal attack on Sarah Palin than a wildlife public service announcement.

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Great post, wowitsdark!!! So right on all the angles/points (including the ETA section)!

cj - really missing the rep point system.

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Killing a moving animal from a moving vehicle is difficult. The noise and vibration of the helicopter causes the animals to scatter and run.

I think that a lot of you haven't a clue. And I don't mean that as bad as it probably sounds. I mean: because you don't know a lot about hunting and/or wildlife management, you are basing your replies on your initial reaction.

You do realize that people who hunt deer, turkey, antelope, moose, elk--actually LURE the animals to them with salt licks, smells, calls, and other noises? Is that fair? Is that right? What about people who fish? Many use sonographic equipment to locate schools of fish, and then bait the hook, or net with food to catch the fish...Is that fair? Is that ethical?

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Bravo! Bravo!

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'Vegetarian' is an old Native American word for bad hunter.

"You do realize that people who hunt deer, turkey, antelope, moose, elk--actually LURE the animals to them with salt licks, smells, calls, and other noises? Is that fair? Is that right? What about people who fish? Many use sonographic equipment to locate schools of fish, and then bait the hook, or net with food to catch the fish...Is that fair? Is that ethical? " AMEN!! We have two salt licks in our yard and a treee that had shell corn around it. My DH baits these animals all the time and then kills them.

" But just to go out there and think hunting is a sport, i will never ever support that ever ever its a total shame and senseless to me." So ILL, waht you are saying is it is OK for these deer to run on the roads, cause accidents, seriously injuring or possibly killing people?? People that take up these SAVE THE ANIMALS causes are really really interesting and have WAYY too much time on their hands..

MK, I agree with you, she needs to stick to acting.

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wowitsdark--
You always take the time to write such eloquent posts. You seem to say what many of us think but just can't put into words as well as you do. Well done and thank you!

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Bravo Cjs216 to wowitsdark, why oh why should I expect any different response's to any thread I start. I can already tell you from the moment I post a thread and who will be the members who will come in always and say always post againist me..Can anyone have their own thoughts???. Bottom line and here is it, If a hunter will go hunting and use the meat for food, fine, not for me, but fine, I also believe if a wild animal any animal attacks you and your life is in jeopardy of course react, also if a animal comes onto your personal property and is a threat again act on it. But the bottom line for me Wowitsdark and I so not pretent to blind or naive, if we as a world are going to go after animals on this cruel and inhumane way its plain sick and again these people and hunters for the shear pleasure of the so called sport of hunting are sick individuals and corwards, put down your weapons , no bait and go after the animals yourselfs. There would be alot less hunting and slaughter for sure..Again I mentioned Palin because it came from her state and its her rules. I also stated if you did not read before if this was anyone else, Bush, Clinton, Biden, and Obama I would have deep deep hatred for them all...Catherine

Thanks, yngsto6, susiecat, and cjs. It's what I do for a living. I proofread better when it's work-related than I do here! lol

Regarding the whole 'circle of life' concept...

Animals that are killed in the wild and left to decompose become food for scavenger animals. They decompose and fertilize the soil. The circle continues whether or not the animal dies of natural causes or by the hand of man.

From a religious POV, I believe that when God created the world, he told Adam that man was to take dominion of it. There are passages in Genesis that discuss the wanton taking of animal life. There are also passages that discuss man's responsibility to nature. And there are passages that indicate that everything on the earth was made *for* man. Initially, man was a vegetarian creature. In fact, animals were not carnivores, either!

Initially man ate food from trees. After sin entered the world, they had to work the fields and eat crops. Working to grow food was part of their punishment. It wasn't until post-flood in Genesis 9 that God gave animals over to man for consumption.

If man is to consume them, they must die. Genesis says that man is to be ready to give an answer for the death of animals he causes. It doesn't say that mankind cannot or should not ever kill animals, but rather that there be a valid reason for their slaughter. I guess from my POV, I would not be uncomfortable telling God that I had to thin the population of a certain animal to keep area wildlife in balance, to keep disease at bay, and to save the lives of those who would be prey for those animals.

Watch out with the hate, It's not good for you!!! So do you now hate all the state governors that allow thinning of deer populations, etc..? We've had to do in our state.

I agree, Kathy.....I can honestly say that I don't have a "deep, deep hatred" for anyone or anything. In fact I "hate" it - lol, pun intended - when my kids use that word. I stop them dead in their tracks and ask them to re-evaluate their feelings. I hate to be all Pollyanna and what not, but I really believe there is good and value in almost everyone and everything...

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Stop playing the "poor me, everybody's picking on me" card. No one is doing that. Just as you said in the post I have quoted here: "Can anyone have their own thoughts???.:" Not everyone is going to agree with you -- don't take that as an insult. We all have varying opinions and thoughts on every issue and we can't all agree with one another 100% of the time. Just because some people don't agree with you doesn't mean you are not entitled to your opinion but the reverse has to work as well -- those who don't agree with you are just as entitled to their opinions as you are to yours.

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Cecilia -

I agree with you 100%. Everyone gets to have an opinion. It's the old double-standard thing again. "Do as I say, not as I do". Ugh.


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Poor me I am not playing this is a really serious issue for me, and I will say it again I can already tell, when I start a thread who will go againist me its a proven fact , I should know its me I am talking about. Cjs you sincerely hate nothing or anything in this world, that is not accurate, can you honestly tell me, you do not hate Hitler???. Not to go off topic, but please get off your high horse and stop pretending your so perfect. Once again another thread started by me gets turned around into catherine and her feel sorry for herself, just the opposite I feel sorry for you and others who think what is going on with slaughtering of innocent animals is ok. I am done like I said before with Politics, I have spoken my feelings, so post away.... Catherine

"you do not hate Hitler???. " YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT?
Who throws all these things off topic??

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Yes dannic I do hate Hitler, it was cjs who said she has no hatred kindly reread the entire posts.....Catherine

Since I'm being pegged as the bad guy anyways, I guess I will just go with it.....Posts 7 & 8 are classic, don't ya think? Please stay on topic, if you disagree with me. If you agree, feel free to say whatever you want!

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To all whom have posted so far, please please stay on topic, I am not talking about abortions, this thread is not about abortions, if anyone feels they want to start a thread about abortions then kindly do so okay I would deeply appreciate it very much.

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Hambirg I totally agree with you about the abortions , sorry I did not read your post,

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To be completely honest, I can say that I dont have hatred either..
And how can you say you hate someone you have never met and was not even alive in your era?? You may hate his actions and what he did but to hate the man???
Interesteing...

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Admittedly, I have not read all the posts here, but, the thing that came to mind immediately for me was to wonder if this were President Obama, would the OP still feel such outrage?? I saw this whole thing as an attack on Sara Palin.

I'm not a hunter, and was nauseated yesterday while driving behind a truck with a deer in the back.....tail gate down, dead deer, it was nauseating. However, I understand hunting and "thinning the herd" and all that.

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I did, too, allinaugust. The first sentence, right out of the shoot, was about Sarah Palin being in "charge" of the killing of wolves from helicopters.

She governs a state where this is accepted and legal practice.

So do other governors, but they were not mentioned - only her.

For all we know, they thin groundhogs in tobacco-growing states, therefore, because Obama smokes cigarettes, he is indirectly contributing to the wanton slaughter of groundhogs.

Would me mentioning that seem remotely political? I assume so, and for good reason.

Let's instead make the main point the name of the company that makes the helicopters. Or sells helicopter fuel to the hunters. Or makes the type of gun used. Or or or...

Or we could just mention Sarah Palin and say it's all her doing.

OP, how do you propose that they deal with problems such as the overpopulation of a species? You can't feed them poison and let them go off and die in their sleep, because another animal will eat their carcass and get sick. They are not an animal that is consumed for food, so you can't market their meat. You can't perform abortions on them, nor can you give them birth control pills. Sending men out bare-handed to tussle with them won't do anything but leave the men dead and the wolf population continuing on its upward spiral.

Seriously - what would you have them do?

Allinagust I did not want this thread to turn into Politics, however it is a fact that this law is from the state of Alaska where Sarah Palin is the governor, again please please read as I stated before if you were anyone else and I literally mean anyone else in the public eye or someone I knew personal I would feel hatred towards them. Is being hatred a good thing for me, no its not, however this topic is very personal to me on so many levels. I cannot help if this is happening in Alaska and that Sarah Palin is the one who instuded this law. If someone else can post a link about the same subject I would comment and have the same feelings. Now Dannic you truly are ironic, here you are telling me I should like Hitler because I never met him, you have got to be kidding.. In the thread about the abc show about what would you do, you are clearly a racist and said so about Muslim people, how dare you come here and tell me I am wrong for hating Hitler the most unhuman evil evil monster to have lived. What are you thinking. I know I said I would end this topic, however this has taken on a different twist and I apologize for saying I would not discuss it, however Dannic is so wrong, please please read her comments on the abc show what would you do and then decide for yourselfs..Catherine

I'm gonna tick everyone off, but here is a link from today's headlines:
Fla. doctor loses license after botched abortion - Yahoo! News

"TAMPA, Fla. – The Board of Medicine revoked the license of a Florida doctor on Friday accused of medical malpractice in a botched abortion in which a live baby was delivered, but ended up dead in a cardboard box."

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The upward glancing of an eye
When none but God is near."

Ladies of course these has to be mandated laws to control animal population , however I guess I was wrong, when I mentioned the cycle of life I assumed it was up to the animals to control that which I believe they do like in Africa.I just personally feel, its gone overboard and again I wish there were more habitats that could house the over populated animals in the world. I know I cannot and others as well save them all, but Alaska is the largest state and I feel being so large there is so much land for those animals to be wild and roam and do what wolves do. I also know I cannot change everyones thoughts, these are mine and again I am extremely passionate about it. I guess I do not have all the answers, but again I am totally againist the innocene slaughter of so many animals.Catherine

As she walks in circles, wringing her hands, then furiously typing away so fast as to cause many and major errors and allows herself to go off topic, and for the umpteenth time stating she's done.............

How many times have you said you are done? Let's start a pooll to see how many times you say it, my straw goes on every 4th post. And yet, you are never done, you contradict yourself repeatedly. Be done, or don't type it. Don't go off topic and yet expect and direct everyone else to stay on topic. Sheesh, kindly, honestly, be done.

dl