From what I understood from the interview...

She was injured several years ago during a riot at the mental health facility where she was employed, and received $165K in damages.

She had these embryos all created at once from the same donor.

She has a fertility issue, and each time had six eggs implanted with the understanding that any of them might take, but it was unlikely that all would take because of issues directly related to her specific fertility problem.

The first four times she underwent the implantation procedure, of the six that were implanted, only one took each time.

The fifth time she underwent implantation, six eggs were used and two of them 'took'.

This was to have been her final implantation, and as with the other implantations, six were implanted. Two of those six divided and resulted in identical twins. The other four took and developed as singles.

She believes the only reason she is undergoing scrutiny is because she is single.

yes I just finished watching the video with the interview with Ann Curry, I did not think I was going to find out any new information that I already assumed about this sad suituation. Sorry but she claims to wanted to have that many kids because she was lonely and grew up as a single child.I personally think it is very selfish of her to do this and have 14 children, although she claims she was only trying for one more..She has no husband no So as mentioned and only her elderly parents, whom I have read her mom is upset with her daughter and wants out of their small house when she brings all those little precious babies home.Also her dad has gone back to his country to earn financial support for the grandkids, and worst, she claimed in the interview when she finishes school she will be able to provide for her 14 children. So who is taking care of these so tiny innocent premature babies now?????. There are so many people out there who have the financial means and are physically and emotionally capable of caring for just one child and she has 14, something is wrong so sadly wrong... God give her the strenght to take the best care of those babies and her older children as well. Peace. Catherine

I am going to DVR Dateline tonight so I don't miss it.

I think we should get to keep one baby for a mycoupons.com mascot and we can all take turns taking him/her for the weekend (like the hamster in kindergarten) since it seems our tax dollars may by paying for these babies. Between us all here the taxes should be enough to keep one baby right?

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You can have my weekend, the time I brought the hamster home he escaped from the cage and fell down the sump pump !! Wouldn't want to chance that again! Talk about traumatic

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I've been really disturbed by this. The dr.s should have her history and the fact that she doesn't have a job, is "supposedly" disabled(?) yet can give birth to 14 kids? I'm sorry, but anyone who is disabled yet can handle a pregnancy with 8 babies, better be giving the money back for SSI... I'm just saying... I'll be willing to trade my weekends as well. I'm already dealing with a 31 weeker preemie and the first 6 months are like having a perpetual newborn... It's exhausting... I'm willing to trade for coupons!

I did not see the interview - is it a full interview? One report says that Dateline will have pieces of it and that the airtime for the full interview is later. In any event, here's somethign that really bothers me:

Meanwhile, The Associated Press reports that Suleman received more than $165,000 in state disability payments for an on-the-job back injury.

According to records from the California Department of Mental Health the payments were made between 2002 and 2008, during which time the single mother gave birth to most of her six other children.

How do you get disability for back injury yet be able to carry a pregnancy per year? Who signs off on that? Marilyn - did you mess up on this one?? LOL Just kidding!!!

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This reminds me of a bad Lifetime movie!

I saw another story about the lady awhile back had put in paperwork to change her name legally to the last name of the sperm donor citing "simplification" as the reason. Her last name is Suleman or something like that, the sperm donor's last name is Solomon. That's kinda weird to me ..change your name to the sperm donor's name.....? They said she put in papers but didn't follow through.

I also saw the report about getting workman's comp/disability $ not sure which, for years while going through quite a few pregnancies. And that she went through school on Pell grants...with 14 children she will probably qualify for lots of other govt $$ yikes.

I rather my tax dollars go to help raise her brood than to kill people in war.
Who knows, maybe one of her kids will grow up to cure a disease, or become President of the USA.

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I heard NBC got the first interview. They say they didn't pay her for the interview, but who knows. There are some people in this world who just want alot of kids. It almost seem like she had kids just to have them. Idk. I do believe is she was married and this was her first set of kids, people who be nicer. Since she's single and had six kids before, people are looking at her like she's crazy. If she had a job, does anyone know how much she would get if she filed her taxes? She has alot of dependents. Can any of you imagine having 14 kids???

What if she's secretly a lesbian and wouldn't get married if she were asked every day by some man? Should that stop her from having kids, even if it is 14?

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I just watched this interview and did I hear her wrong or did she actually say that the parents who had kids and then went to work and didn't have physical contact with them were the selfish ones?

That's what she said.

Something doesn't add up. She said she is there all the time to give them love, to hug on them, to give them guidance, and to teach them manners and good habits and such.

She also said that as soon as she finishes her degree she will be well-positioned to care for them financially.

She did say that 'many' moms leave their kids all day long and that they don't care about their kids and are living selfish lifestyles. She said that not *all* do, but that *many* do, and that nobody is critical of them like they are critical of her.

She also seems to have found the time and funds for cosmetic surgery. Her button nose and enlarged lips look less than natural. Kinda Angelina looking. Probably just trying to get 'camera-ready' for her new career as a tv child development specialist. After seeing parts of her interview, I think she is definitely a person with psychological issues.

That is a great point!

They need to do away with all these reality shows. dont know whats really true and whats not with the editing, and some person a crayon short of a pack sees someone elses's litter and thinks Hey I can get money for doing that too and not have to work at it!

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You WOULD have to take the high road Susie! In this situation I don't feel bad belittling her but of course you may be right!

Thanks a lot lol!

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Well hells bells, there's 14 troops right there. Let's start training the babies now for battle-make 'em earn their keep. I'm just teasing of course-neither argument makes sense.
I also have to say, that no matter how frugal you are, 165K is not a whole lot of $$ when you are considering raising 14 kids until they are grown. I read that she plans to return to school in the fall. I'm so glad. Wouldn't want her to waste all that "extra" time she'll have on her hands...Sheesh..

She was on the front cover of one my daily papers here. I read the entire article on her, she truly needs to rethink all that has happened, with her mom claiming to leave when she returns and her elderly dad having to work to care for these kids, and having a elderly grandparent already care for 6 small ones with school , feedings, homework, that truly is not fair to him or those children. In the newspaper story, it reads that the mom of octuplets has suffered from mental illiness, paranoia, depression wild mood swings and post traumatic stress syndrome. I am not putting her down for any of those conditions, because i have suffered from panic attacks , however 14 children, no job, no father, elderly grandparents, this is all so unsettling for me. But sadly in the newspaper she sites she is only one kind of crazy.... baby crazy... she also said she thinks she is not selfish for having that many kids, its people who only have 2 or 3 are selfish????. Catherine

I wonder how they are all gonna live in that house? It didnt look THAT big to me from what I saw on t.v

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What burns me is her crack about how parents who don't stop their lives to care for their children are selfish, but she's not. Also, that comments about "when I'm done with my schooling, then I can support them." What happens in the meantime?

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And she is going to support them after finishing her schooling without going to work, something she criticizes in others. Well, that's logic right there - NOT! Here's you sign....

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The daycare center at our college about breaks my friends' bank when she pays about half of her salary for TWO kids... and she is paid well as Payroll Clerk at the college.

I wonder if it is free where this lady goes to school or if the students get a break? I'm sure she has it all figured out how she is going to do this financially (ie welfare).

$165,000 probably ran out a long time ago. That isn't really that much money if that's all you have and you have 15 mouths to feed, including your own.

If I was her, I'd seriously consider putting up some for adoption... even open adoption. These kids deserve a chance.

I'll bet she'll get a book deal, or a reality show. She'll have to sort of use her kids as pawns to make enough money to support them and raise them single-handedly, I'd imagine.

In one way, I hope she gets the $ deal she needs - for those kids' sakes. On the other hand, though, I can't stand that our society pays people to be over-the-top crazy. She's only famous for being completely outrageous in this situation. But she can (and probably will) profit from just that.

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Personally, I would take parenting advice (as someone mentioned in an earlier thread) from someone who has children who have reached adulthood without too much trauma and trouble, rather than someone who has infants and pre-teenagers. There is still so much to learn. I'd put no stock in her experience yet - other than that of successfully carrying and delivering 8 babies.....although there aren't too many that need that advice.

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Not me -- I think that would only encourage people to copy her and try to top her outrageous behavior. In a way, isn't that what she's already done? Look at the Duggars and that Jon & Kate family -- I'd bet money she was influenced by the publicity and bucks they've received.

I'd far rather those babies were taken from her ASAP.

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I thought it was pretty clear that with the plastic surgery she is trying to look like Angelia Jolie and with the scads of babies she is trying to be her.

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I vote that if she gets a reality tv show we all sign a pact to NOT watch it - no matter how much we might secretly love to watch that train wreck. Some people should just not be rewarded.....

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I hope if she gets any money for anything - the hospital sues her - because there is no way she is paying for the care those 8 babies are receiving

GREAT point, couponconnie. Can they attach some sort of a garnishment to her bank account?

I see her in an entirely different light than the Duggars or J&K+8. By all accounts, they are emotionally healthy people. Sure, they have their quirks and some convictions that aren't mainstream in America in 2009, but I don't think they had babies out of some selfish need. They are relatively stable people using the equipment God gave them to procreate. They entered parenthood with plans and income and stability.

While I personally have no desire to put the spotlight on my own family for the world to see, there are surely a million thoughts that went in to the decision those families made to go with the tv deal. No doubt money was one of them, but I have to think that even without the tv deals, those families would have managed just fine. For the Duggars, I would guess that part of what played into their decision was the consideration that others 'out there' who don't seem to have any emotional peace trying to deal with just one or two kids that with faith and love, God can create joy and focus and stability in your life. They really do credit their relationship with the Lord for their ability to do what they do, and as is common when something works for you, I think they have a conviction that makes them want others to witness the benefits of that faith - and they may even believe they have a *responsibility* to do so when given the opportunity... and what larger opportunity than to share with the entire nation? I also think the Duggar Dad is a pretty astute and driven businessman and feels a high level of responsibility to the resources that find their way to his charge, and while their home is large and nice, it's very *functional* for the lifestyle they lead and not extravagant in the way things are done on Extreme Home Makeover. Every child does not have a room with a computer and a plasma tv on the wall. By all accounts, their value system has remained intact and unchanged, and I'll bet they give away a lot of that money, and also have set aside nest eggs for their kids to use when they strike out on their own.

With J&K+8, I see a different motivation. I think they do it for the money, but I also think that generally, they viewed it as a fun adventure and a way to pay the bills when they got into it. They started out like any normal couple and ended up in a situation none of us can really imagine. Watching it all in action is entertaining and even personally enlightening. When I see Kate try to control things, I can't help but be a little introspective and ask myself, "Do I ever do that? Yikes!"

But with OctoMom, I see a much different situation. She's not emotionally healthy or normal.

Won't leaving her kids to go to school, and then to go to this fabulous job that will support 15 people mean that she's one of those selfish moms?

It's a struggle to get through school with 2 kids and a husband, I can't imagine how she's going to do it alone with 14 kids.

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Check out this article the babies' Grandma is pISSed! She had no idea her daughter was getting $ from the state and said Nadya did not even buy food for her kids...only toys -



"Nadya...failed to tell her mother about more than $167,000 that records show she received from worker's compensation claims"

"...she never told me. But I've never seen any money, not for house payments or for feeding the kids."

Angela Suleman described her daughter as irresponsible with money and unresponsive to her retired mother's financial needs. "The house is full of toys,'' she said. "My daughter has always spent a lot of money on toys and really not helping out with the children or the living arrangements -- never paid anything for rent.


ABC News: Octuplet Grandma Calls Daughter 'Unconscionable'

Actually, she got exactly what she wanted... People are talking about her arent they?

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And that's why California's broke!

Fertility clinic and doctor identified here: Octuplet mom was treated at Beverly Hills clinic - Yahoo! News

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Check this out.

Octuplet's mom on food stamps, publicist says - Kids and parenting- msnbc.com

Octuplet's mom on food stamps
While I have no problem with households getting food stamps if it's needed. I do have a HUGE problem with this lady trying to sugar coat her receiving them by saying she doesn't think it's welfare. She has NOT worked for years thus she has NOT paid into any programs such as the food stamps program and that I do have a big problem with while she's receiving aid.Doesn't matter to me if she only paid 10.00 a month in taxes , thats 10.00 MORE to help fund the program than what it's getting from her. If she's not working, paying rent, buying food etc ( per her OWN Mother's interviews stating this ) What was she doing with the 3 SSI checks she received for her 3 children and her self ?, I can't help but think she took that money and paid for these IVF treatments. UNREAL ! That's NOT her money to be using if she did that ( and I pretty sure that IS what she did ). Those SSI checks are meant to provide the NEEDS of the children receiving them. (And people wonder WHY they get turned down daily for SSI when there's truly is a medical issue.) She's abusing the system and I can only hope and pray there's a social worker assigned to her, also a social worker assigned to the 3 children whom are getting the SSI. I hope their case worker will step in and remove her as the overseer of the checks and assign a case manager for the kids. At least the checks will go for that it's intended to do which is shelter, food, clothing, medical needs and anything per the guidelines set forth to provide for the care of the disable child. It sure as hell wasn't in the guidelines for a Parent or Parent(s) to pay for IVF's and sit on their asses for 6 years. ( BTW am I the only one that finds it unreal she can't work because of a bad back, but yet can carry a baby for 9 months ( or less in the 8 babies just born ) and can manage to pick up toddlers to boot ?).
Forgot to add:: If a baby is born premature ( under 37 weeks, they automatically receive SSI) That's a nice income for her to receive checks for 8 children.
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/ssi/te...edite-ussi.htm

I wonder if something sane might happen - like would the department of children/youth come and observe her "parenting" in a year or so (once the babies are home)?

I can't imagine that she'll be able to care for the kids in a way that's not 'neglectful' of their needs. Isn't there some hope that the kids might be taken in such an instance? This seems like a perfect case for a DCY service call...

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This morning on the news (GMA I think) they said that the hospital has now asked the State of California (who is nearly bankrupt) to pay the hopsital bill.

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