But it's time to go.

The cafe is turning into the same it was when at the end of the YFB, and I personally don't have the energy or desire to contribute anymore to the community it is becoming.

I also have a lot of things to work on, and time is not something I am going to have to be a part of the community.

To those I consider my online friends..I'll see you around, I am sure! Thanks for all of the chats, it's been great (and thanks for the support and advice along the way).

Since I won't be back, I won't have to read the crap that is posted by those with their alter egos..or just "plain ugly egos" that are probably sitting in their dingy homes, with their dingy lives, living a hopeless, lonely, abusive existence.

So have at it..I don't care.

What's that sound?? A backbone?? Yeah, yeah..that's it.

OH, please don't go! We love ya!



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Me neither... I'm confused and so sorry to see you go.

Sorry you are leaving, I just looked at some of the current posts. I agree that things tend to get in your face personal. I am more of a lurker now. Sometimes I want to hit the reply button but can't handle all the drama.

I also think that some people post things that I would never (that is just me) although I respect and like people here, you are strangers. If I were standing next to you I wouldn't know you.

Will miss your posts and wish you the best.

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Goodbye *waves*

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I would say that I am a lurker too. Very little do I ever put my input because it seems that the darts or daggers start to be thrown. I think when someone hides behind a keyboard they are more relentless than usual. I would at least like to think that , I hope some of these people who can sometimes say such hateful things are not like that in thier everyday life. I hope this is just thier other personality coming out temporarily!

where's that picture of the drama llama??

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I must be oblivious I have no clue what's going on!
But I am sorry you feel you have to leave.

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I understand how you feel. This place can be a very cold and hurtful place sometimes. But there are also some really nice people on here too. Good luck with everything and sorry to see you go!

Isn't this an example????

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Kathy please please do not leave... no one single person here is perfect, I will send you a private email. If anyone was rude shame on them..Again do not leave, you truly a very special friend and a mom as well..we all have kids and we all have problems...If you cannot come here and share , thats sad.. peace and hugs xo catherine

Another drama...wow...wonder if it was stage right or left?

Regarding the Dramadars....

I have to say that I really hate that mentality - the one that can't feel even a shred of empathy for a stranger and who tries to be cute and clever at the expense of someone who is obviously in the thick of a bad spot.

I understand that there are personalities that seem to thrive on drama - living it, bathing in it, creating it....

And then there are others who, for whatever reason, just don't have the skill set to create boundaries within which they will live that they feel totally confident about. They're more about *hope* than *will*, and while I believe that *will* gets you farther than wishes, when you feel powerless to create the vision of 'nice' that you can see in your head, you often find yourself compromising your ideals because you think that compromise will bring about 'nice'.

It seems to me that Kathy's only 'crime' is indecision, and it's for understandable reasons. There is an innocent baby involved, and she's going to have to make some hard decisions, none of which come free of consequences. No wonder she's feeling wishy washy and is seeking a faceless sounding board.

When someone has gotten emotionally invested in the 'characters' we all are here, to break from this circle takes a little personal courage. It's entertaining to come read people's thoughts. It's a little addictive and can become a preoccupation. That Kathy is willing to cut ties because it's not healthy for her is commendable.

When some people make that decision, they simply need closure. Just like a next door neighbor might announce to you that they were leaving, I do appreciate message board participants doing that. Some call it drama, and I think that is rather rude and insulting. Not always - sometimes it *is* about the drama. But not always. And for Kathy, I think this is just a matter of her needing to close the door for herself.

Just like when people delete posts (as she referenced)... sure, there are people who do it for cowardly reasons, but there are other times that it's the most sane thing on the planet to do. If you have a conversation you later regret, the words don't hang on the wall for anyone and everyone to walk by and read, forevermore. You're allowed to change the topic, to move on, to quit responding and to have it die. Here... not so much. And that's not always healthy. So if someone steps back and says to themselves, "That was a conversation I wish I hadn't started, I don't want those words to remain on the internet for all eternity, and nothing good is coming from their presence," I have NO problem with them just taking out the eraser and saying "Nevermind." And yet... when people do that here, there is always a contingency that accuses the 'eraser' of all sorts of nasty things.

The reality is that as much as we see each other as characters - or caricatures - behind the screen is someone at a keyboard with a real life, with real problems, with real concerns, and whose life will extend far past anything they type here. It's a stupid message board, for crying out loud, and there is no reason to *fear* wiping something off of it if you think that your REAL life is somehow diminished by the presence of some things you typed out that you now do not want other people to see. If the preoccupation they cause is impacting your *real* life, then cut them out. If a letter you wrote to a friend or a spouse in a moment of anger is something you don't want them to see in the light of day, burn it. There is no shame in waking up to the fact that message board conversations aren't worth the Window they're written in and just wiping one out.

And if, in making an exit, you have a personal need for some closure by saying, "I'm outta here," so be it. Doesn't make you a drama queen. It may just mean that you are taking control of your life and deciding that life on the web won't be the life you spend your day thinking about.

And I have to say... I admire people who can do that. So all the best to you, Kathy, as you try to figure out the course of action that hurts the fewest people and protects the innocent ones the most.

Kathy, don't do it!! Just ignore the ignorance!! We all know who the dreaded ones are here, but I think there are more nice!!

This is the first thread I've read tonight, so I'm going to try and see what happened.

I really value your opinions and your outlook on things. Blow off some steam, and let it go.

I know I've made personal posts here before too and afterwards was like "Whoo, won't make that mistake again", and that's a shame, because this is supposedly a place where you can come for advice , or joking, or whatever.

If you go for real, know that we will miss you, and hopefully you will come back.

Donna

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You can count on it. She's online RIGHT NOW sending me a strange PM! She's cried wolf before and she ALWAYS comes back. It's always the same 'notice me' drama and she can't stay away - no matter how many times she says she's leaving forever. Don't blame her though. It's not her fault she's an addict - she's predispositioned so she has a lifetime excuse for anything she does. LOL!

So well-stated. I second all of it.

I'll add that perhaps sometimes people say "I'm out of here" in a courageous way. It's pretty much expected that the same ol' people will come out with their same ol' hoots and hollers when such a statement is made. But saying goodbye is also a kindness to the people who have invested time in reading and sometimes responding to the op - at least we know that a conscious decision was made, and that she didn't fall off the face of the earth, or go away quietly (which perhaps she would have found to be the more cowardly way).

Good luck, og.

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Kathy - whether you stay or go, leave for awhile and come back -- whatever you decide-- best wishes to you and your family. I hope the situation at home improves.

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I guess you will run into snitches and bitches wherever you go. It is a shame there there are some who seem to just push and push.
OHHGOD, I am sorry that you are leaving. I think it is sad and pathetic that there are some people who feel the need to beat up on others. Kind of reminds me of the bullies in school. I have to laugh though, these women are probably living the most miserable existance known. God knows their spouses must be saints...
Curiously, how many people have these women drove out of here?

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Kathy, I hate to see you go. I hope the best for you and your family.

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One thing I can say for Kathy is that she had the courage to share personal aspects of her life~~the good, bad, and ugly. I would guess most of us would not want to share things that might reflect us in a negative light, but she did and definitely wanted to hear different views on whatever topic it happened to be. I thought she took the handed out criticism pretty well, but some of it was just flat out not constructive criticism.

Kathy, hope you reconsider, as I enjoyed reading your posts.

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I agree. I admire Kathy for the posts she makes. I once tried to ask regarding a very personal matter that I was indecisive about and got trashed....horribly. It was a long time ago and I really have never said too many personal things since. "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen"..yep that's me.

I would rather have someone say "bye" than wonder "where the heck did so and so go?". We've seen those posts. That way we can at least try to get alternate contact info if we want too. Just like staying away from family members who are toxic, you should stay away from boards that are toxic to you. Kathy is a personal poster. Personal posters are going to have a REALLY hard time here

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Kathy~ hate to see you leave I have always enjoyed your posts and your being able to talk about things I know I sometimes do not feel comfortable to talk about. But I will see you on Myspace for sure.

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Kathy,
I sincerely wish you and your family all the best.
Hugs,

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I dont get the whole "I'm leaving" thing either, if you dont like the board then move on to one you like, PM your friends leave them your email to contact you, let them know the board your going to if you've picked one and be done. Nothing against OP cause I dont really know her, it's just reminds me of "I'm taking my toys and going home" type thing

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If you just wanted to leave, you would have done so. Why make a post where people beg you to stay? Come on! If you want to go, just scurry off on your way. Send pm's to the ones you like & be on your way. Some people just need attention, I guess.

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Kathy you have every right to post and tell us your friends here who care for you to let us know you are leaving, while sadly so many want you to stay, kindly think about it for a few days and please do not leave and if you do kindly pm us to let us know how things are going for you and your family,,, peace girlfriend. Catherine

I think most people do this - just go completely or step away for a while, quietly. Let their close friends know, drop them an email address and that's it. There's been a couple boards that I used to go to that went directions I didn't care for. I PM'ed/emailed the people that I wanted to know what the deal was and then I just quit going...sans drama.

I think I might "announce" if it were something like, "hey folks, I'm moving, so I won't be online for a while", or "hey folks, I got a full-time job so my time around online will be very rare"...that type of thing.

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The fact of the matter is, at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter what you people think of me. I have shared my life with you, good and bad, for the sake of online companionship, consulting and sharing. But when it all comes down to it, what my family feels about me is what I truly am concerned about when I shut off the lights at night. If they are all good with me, then all is good in the life of Kathy. So far, it is good.

But, I want to state my peace. Please make sure you READ this, in its entirety, I wouldn’t want you to miss anything.

I’ve been nice all this time but I will not be any longer. I have kept things to myself only to watch others, including myself now, get hurt by your cruel antics.

Let me lay it all out, for everyone to read and see what callous, cruel, unstable, mental, emotionally abusive PERSON that you really are.

YOU have followed users around, pushed them, bullied them, abused them, creating different user names throughout the years (yeah, there’s that little ISP thing you know, and it IS tracked even though you like to use alternative IP addresses)

You are emotionally unstable in every single way. You have shown you do not know how to read or comprehend what another writes, but yet you are the FIRST with your “I know everything about anything” advice. To think that you can give mental health advice is amazing (but yeah, I guess the crazy ones know what a crazy person does, right?). It is quite clear why you never became anything more than what you are in your life. You have THOUSANDS of posts between all of your user names, and yet you accuse others on here of having too much time on their hands and being addicted? You are truly a pathetic piece of work and your audacity not only infuriates me, but makes me wish that your dh had done more to you that day.

You have been a member here for many years, and yet on your regular ID, while you are still a witch, you fake niceness and then do your dirty work under your aliases. Train wreck? Honey, you were run over, drug along the tracks and then left on the side. YOU were, in part, the downfall of the YFB (MTCW) .and yet you continue on.

Run you off? How can anyone run you off when you are too busy making sure that you run others off the board? Your mood swings and shifts in attention span is hilarious. It is obvious you have no clue how transparent you are.

Let me repeat, YOU are the one who needs SERIOUS mental health care. YOU are the one, who I am not surprised has isolated everyone from you in your life.

YOU are the one who talks a good talk, and then snarls her ugly head back with fangs wide open searching for the next victim of your anger you carry inside.

You have gone around SEARCHING others on here out like a wolf-no wait, that is too good for you- you are like a HYENIA looking for fallen prey, scrounging for your next meal.

You have no idea how stupid you look. You also have no clue how many dispise you on here. Why they have not banned you completely is beyond me. Oh, there’s that alternative ISP thing…….

YOU take what people say, twist it, turn it around, dump it upside down, until it becomes YOUR own reality of what YOU want other people to believe is the truth. You are manipulating, disruptive and more than that you are the foulest I think I have ever come across. Toxic is too good a word for you.

YOU only signed on in 2007.. ROFL (yeah, again I am laughing), yet you KNOW what hhas been done? Hmmm..I only left once, and that was in 2003 and from what I remember.. A LOT of us went at the same time saying ADIOS! And it was all, for the most part, because of YOU. Does that make you feel some form of justification in your life? Does creating chaos where there is none bring you so much pleasure that you can’t stand for your life to run even keel? Where ARE your meds???? Oh and by the way, I never did post I was leaving in 2003, THAT is why so many people were calling me looking for me, because they DIDN’T know why I wasn’t posting. So whatever, again, you are nuts.

Like was said to me by 2ndhandnews (and I know this bugged you, and I was waiting for the retaliation) “She’s ****ING NUTS” You had the nerve to call others up on the boards offering mental health advice. Telling them that you wanted to HELP them? What? While you are being accused of abusing your children and your dh is beating the crap out of you? YOU wanted to help others on here? Did you NOT have enough to worry about in your OWN life?

“She’s ****ING NUTS”

And you know what, you are.

To prove my point of how you twist things (you know, you claim to know everything about me), I can’t believe you don’t remember this (oops! You’re NOT perfect??).. But I am sure you will TWIST that around too. Mental, Mental, Mental.

Now I have an abused/lost dog story. What to do?

The gambling thing that you keep bring up. Please! 300 is nothing to me and my DH..maybe that is a lot to you, but not to us. I just don’t like wasting it in a casino. The $3K bothered me a LOT BECAUSE I had done something I had never done before (let things manifest in a severe way).

I am LEAVING not because of you (well yeah, I guess I am in part), but mainly it is because I have invested TOO much time on here (hint: get a clue, you are too!), I have become emotionally invested again (and I shouldn’t be) and I have A LOT going on in my life as Chamber of Commerce Board of Director, running a festival this summer AND getting ready for a new baby granddaughter that I am unsure and scared of her future. I have asked for my account to be deleted, and it has not yet. Just to let you know, I WAS ON HERE LAST NIGHT TO FREAKING GET PM INFORMATION OF FRIENDS AND THEIR INFORMATION! I didn’t know how soon they would delete my account, and I have information in there going back to 2001 (but of course YOU KNOW THAT, don’t you U R N O T A R??)


Oh, and for the record, I didn’t leave my pills out enticing a druggie! I didn’t know what was really going on. then I moved them to another area and WATCHED to see if it was him or someone else in the house. I do NOT deal in drugs, I do NOT give and give to enable my dss (pathetic to even assume I do), and I am NOT the horrible, horrible things you have assumed and taken out of “god knows where” to think of me. Again, it is all just your games. I didn’t LEAVE just so they could come over without me being here (another made up from I don’t know where assumption..god you are crazy). I had to GO TO WORK and he was instructed to CALL me BEFORE he left so I could tell him what time to come over. He called me, and told me they were pulling up in my driveway at that moment. I could not get back home (an hour away). Tried to call dh, but he was in bed. SO THERE. WHY do you have to assume??????? And make up s*it? Are you THAT delusional?? Oh yeah, that’s right, you ARE!!!

Susie, you found out what was going on AFTER you were taken by your family.. THEN You let them out of your life.. WHY would you judge me when that is EXACTLY what was going on with me? HOW is that any different? Even if I THOUGHT it was going on, DIDN’T you as well before you actually FOUND out for facts and then CUT all ties?

It is just amazing how you choice few (and mainly ONE big troublemaker), can’t even see how you have done and been in the same situations as the ones that you rake over the coals.

I don’t give a flying hoot if you disagree with me, actually I welcome differences of options and advice, but JESUS, I don’t need you to be verbally abusive to me and make accusations that are so far out there that it is almost surreal that you would believe someone could do the things you accuse! Paranoid?? YOU take the cake in that area!!!

I still can’t believe you all STILL bring up people like tiggrsmommy, who you literally drove her into the ground with your abusiveness and cruelty. I am NOT surprised if, considering how fragile she was, that the way you all treated her (AND YOU STILL TALK ABOUT HER ON HERE and it’s been what???? 8 years????? Good lord) I was really worried about her own sense of stability in dealing with your cruelty to her. You are vicious!!!!!!

So, I am “getting a life” May I suggest that you do as well? Better yet, get a good psychologist, get off your ass and start feeling good about yourself. You would have thought that after all that you had done to make yourself “better” that you would. But actually, the fact is, you probably are RIGHT back to where you were before. IT SHOWS how unhappy and how much self loathing you carry. Sorry, but I really have to say that we are not to blame for how my dss behaves. Yeah, I am saying it, so believe it. We were and ARE very good parents. Since they have been gone (my dss) the home is so quiet and uneventful you could hear a pin drop. It is serene. Bet you would like to know what that is like, wouldn’t you?

You know what? (By the way, it is very irritating you start every sentence with that) I would have left you a long time ago if I had been your husband, and I wouldn’t have waited until I had lost all self respect before I did so. I am sure, that you probably drove your dh to the point where HE was so beat down and depressed. I can ONLY imagine.

Okay, there.. I have said my peace. Go flip, bitch. The only reason why you have ANYONE on here that may tell you they agree with you, is because they are AFRAID OF YOU and what you will do to them if they disagree with you.

oh, and by the way, a backbone does make a sound when it is being shoved up someone’s a**.

Yeah, you won, again.

I am sure you are proud of yourself.

Ok, ok I know I am a little slow on the uptake and I may have lost my program so I am having a little trouble keeping up.
I admit when the slings and arrows start I tend to tune out added to the fact that I have a memory the size of a gnat, but I do like to sometimes fact check.

Kathy could you tell me which of the dirty half dozen (my nick name for them) was the last post aimed at?

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wow Kathy sweetie that was one of the longest post you ever made. Please please do not leave, you are way too nice of a person to do that. If you must do not delete your account, just take some time and relax, but please come back.I tried to pm you however it said you have to many and you have to clear them out.. I totally believe as you stated there are some here who have different usernames for that I am certain. Again I know who are nice and who are just here to stir trouble. I am sure someone will come and post rigth underneath me, however you never know lol... You certainly have spilled alot of personal stuff with us and its does take a special person to do that and not everyone can. I tried several times and each time I was chewed down as well,When I bring up stuff about my brother Sonny , who when I posted about a problem at work, or when I posted about my brother Micheal. That is why I decided I would not talk politics anymore, because I am wasting my typing lol.. I know who I wanted and I know I at least voted for the right man, because he is our president now, however like you I just got plain tired of having to speak my personal views on our President, so I gave up but I will not quit, no one here can make me do that. For you hon you have to do what makes life easier for you and for your family. While we can be here for you and listen, in the end your the one who lives with it everysay not us..However no one single person here is perfect and therefore as you said some people just look to cause harm and are truly mean spirited, Heck for all the times I have said peace and my wrong usage of grammar,I should have been gone long time ago..But again sweetie kindly rethink and as always me and so many others do not want to see you go..For now if you read this peace and hugs and take care of yourself so you can be there for your family,,, Catherine

I could think of a couple members that would deserve the long rant but I'm not sure who you were referring to. Can you say or pm me? I'm thinking of a person that sounds like a dancing stone but I'm not sure if that's the one! Thanks

Dirty half dozen-that's a good one!!!! Can't we do something about the chronic nasty people???????????

No - it's not me. I've been trying to make sense of her raving but it's like trying to put together a puzzle without all the pieces.

I think some of it IS meant for me but most of it seems to aimed at Marilynk - there's many references to things she said and definitely the "run you off" part because Marilynk just said that nobody could run her off this board. Ohhgodd is mad at everybody in these threads that didn't agree with the way she set her son up to steal. We all seem to be part of her crazy post. Me, Marilynk, Susiecat, Rebeccarr and I don't know who else because some of the references go back past these threads.

I am soooo mad and disappointed!!!!

I hope all of you read this.

The line about the backbone is aimed at Rebeccarr because she brought up the creaking backbone. I don't know whose husband left them or who had the nerve to call others up on the boards offering mental health advice or who still brings up people like tiggrsmommy. She's accusing somebody else that keeps bringing up her gambling problem, U R N O T A R, and whoever called her paranoid. I can't understand the rest of it.

I'm not going to try and decipher all the raving but it sounds like she thinks that everybody who ever said she was wrong about ANYTHING is the same person. I guess it's more comforting to think that than to think that everybody disagrees with her. She's slinging so many darts and arrows in so many directions that it makes no sense. I think she's off her meds.

Glad to hear it but since YOU keep telling us that every member of your family - mother, father, sisters, sons, husband, etc., - dislikes you, can you see why your life doesn't sound that good to the people reading it?

That hate filled post is your idea of serenity? Are you going to be this "serene" around the baby?

OMG! That's the first sane thing you've said. You NEED to be scared of her future. I hope you're scared enough to get some help. The baby deserves it. Do you WANT her to be raised like this and turn out like your son? Between your criminal son and his girlfriend, illegal drugs, stealing, jail time, and whacked out grandmother, that baby girl is going to go through hell. No innocent child deserves these people!

KATHY, GET SOME HELP AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DON'T BRING THAT BABY HOME INTO THIS HELL YOU'VE GOT WAITING FOR HER!

You need to get your meds straight and get your life straight before you bring a baby into this HORRIBLE situation! She's not predispositioned to suffer but she will if she's raised in ths kind of environment!




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Please Mods, can we put this thread out of its misery? I seriously mean this for the sakes of all involved.

I am the one who reminds her of her gambling problem. Face facts she is the one who stated she can't go on with the guilt of having spent 3,000 dollars gambling. Now $300.00 is nothing to her. She sound like the octs mom who said that money is only paper. Face facts Kathy no one on here started a topic "lets get Kathy". YOU REQUESTED/SOLICITED ADVICE! That is exactly what you were given.

Wow....Kathy, I do think it's a good idea to take a step back. That's just too much emotion for an online coupon board - no sense getting yourself all balled up like that. Take a break from it and come on back when you're ready. Take care of yourself.

Seems there's a lot of posts that have been deleted from this thread.....I wish my memory was better, but alas I'm getting up there. Cashchik, please tell me that I'm not in the dirty half dozen!?? I'll be good...I promise.

cj/

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