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I don't mean to make a joke of this but I was just asking my friend I wonder how much she would get in food stamps for that many kids?


Octuplet's mom on food stamps, publicist says
Three of Nadya Suleman's older kids also get federal support for disabilities

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Feb. 10: After denying getting government assistance, a publicist for mother-of-14 Nadya Suleman confirms she gets $490 a month in food stamps and federal support for her three children with disabilities. TODAY’s Ann Curry reports.

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Nadya Suleman, the mother of the octuplets born last month, gets $490 a month in food stamps, the Los Angeles Times reported Monday evening. Three of her first children also get federal supplemental security income because they are disabled, the Times reported.

Suleman's publicist, Michael Furtney, confirmed the information.

During an interview with Ann Curry on the TODAY show, Suleman denied being on welfare. (Msnbc.com is a joint venture of NBC Universal and Microsoft.)
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Suleman told NBC News correspondent Ann Curry in an interview that she was not receiving welfare. Furtney said Suleman didn't consider the food stamps and SSI to be welfare.

"In Nadya's view, the money that she gets from the food stamp program ... and the resources disabilities payments she gets for her three children are not welfare," he said. "They are part of programs designed to help people with need, and she does not see that as welfare."

Furtney declined to say what kinds of disabilities the three children have, the Times reported.

During the interview with Curry, Suleman said, "I'm not receiving help from the government. I'm not trying to expect anything from anybody. [i] just wanted to do it on my own. Any resources that someone would really, really want to help us, I will accept, I would embrace.”

Curry told Suleman that many people think she had the octuplets in the hope of making money off her story.

“That's funny how untrue that is,” Suleman said. “Money? Money is necessary to raise children. But it's — it's paper. It is paper. To me, it is superfluous in contrast to the importance of my kids.”

NBC chief medical editor Dr. Nancy Snyderman has estimated the cost of delivering the infants and caring for them until they are healthy enough to leave the hospital at $1.5 million to $3 million.




Definitely an example of taking advantage of the system. This is an outrage. I raised one son and that was expensive. My parents raised four and my inlaws five with just hard work and they lived through many recessions and hard times.

The stupid doctor should have to pay for their upbringing as well as her "boyfriend" whose sperm fuels this.

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Her kids should be taken away from her. It's not the kid's fault they were born into this but we should not *reward* this lady for doing this. I heard somewhere her mother is moving out of the house because she doesn't want to have to raise and take care of the kids (which is what she has been doing up to this point). Don't remember where I heard it though. I just hope these news agencies are NOT paying this lady for interviews! If having the babies is your life goal and such a joy, you should want to share your bliss for free

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and the really scary part is she doesn't see food stamps and disability to be government assistance (if I heard the interview correctly)!

And what percentage of babies born prematurely (such as the last 8) end up with some sort of developmental delay or physical disability? If memory serves me correctly, the percentage is pretty high. Thus it would stand to reason that she will receive some sort of government assistance for these 8.

Makes me wonder if she's got some sort of "hoarding" disorder??? Her's just pertains to children, instead of cats or old newspapers....

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It is an outrage, but unfortunately, we have created a system that, while well-intentioned, has had the unintended consequence of enabling this sort of behavior and mindset. We've removed from the equation the need for people to first become responsible and stable and then proceed into parenthood.

You used to hear the notion expressed that the nuclear family was the basis for a civilized and orderly society. That concept was mocked and downplayed in the name of tolerance, rights, etc. But seeing this extreme example makes me *get* that concept in a way I really probably didn't in the past. It fit with my value system, but separate and apart from my own personal values, I would have had a hard time articulating *why* I believed it to be *truth*... until seeing this woman.

Someone said in another post that the hospital is asking the bankrupt state of California to pay for the deliveries and required care of these babies. Because we have, as a society, deemed irrelevant the notion of a mom and a dad and a home and an income, all because people have *rights* to free health care and free food and free EVERYTHING because we don't want to see anyone be hungry or sick (regardless if their own choices led to those problems), we've set ourselves up to have to foot the bill for the bad choices of our fellow citizens. And since we've made those choices consequence-free, people follow their whims and their desires, regardless of whether they are personally positioned to take responsibility for them. America will bear the responsibility FOR me, simply because I want it.

"We" created a system that does nothing to discourage people like this women.

Not one welfare my butt We are paying for her kids. SSI is funded through Taxpayer dollars. I still pay taxes and this baby making machine just keeps popping them out I may not pay much in taxes being that I am disabled and get Social Security Disability something I paid into for many years and earned. My husband gets disability from a private insurance Policy through his old job, but cannot get Social Security Disability (its on appeal) nor does he qualify for any help whatsoever from the state for Medicaid because you have to be considered disabled by Social Security.

We struggle hard because he has no insurance and I am working my butt off doing taxes and yes to those who are going to cry out I am doing wrong and abusing the system Social Security Knows I am working I report it to them every year and I am only supposed to be working 20 hours a week. We get no help at all except for DS gets reduced fee lunches and reduced fee after school daycare nothing else and is on the SCHIP insurance Programthrough the state where we pay co-pays. No SNAP (which is what food stamps are now called) and there are 3 of us here with medical problems .

It frustrates the crap out of me that this woman is being allowed to collect more benefits as she has more children, I was under the impression that ALL states had time limits on how long you could get benefits and if you had more children you could not get additional benefits. I know here in VA they cut you off at 3 years unless the head of household is disabled or have a disabled child and if you have more children they will not add them to your TANF or SNAP cases. I read that This Nadya has at least one child who is Autistic, I have a autistic child, but I cant get SSI for him and he has other serious medical problems this is wrong period.

The sperm donor should be paying child support, the Doctor should lose his license and his malpratice insurance should pay for raising these children. Not the Federal and State Government which is funded by hard-working taxpayers many who themselves have bad backs like she does and work Gahh I will shut-up now because I am getting angrier as I type and I have already written a book and figure two books would be too much.

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At least I know there is someone who looks worse than me naked.

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As I was listening to the news this morning or last night ( cant remember ) but the hospital where she had these babies want the state of California to pay for the medical bills. Outrageous. This woman clearly has issues, but she is selfish, in no way shape or form did she even think of her other children before she went and had these other 8 babies. I think she should have them taken away from her, she has no job, no way to support these babies, and it frustrates me that she will be receiving WIC, foodstamps or any other assistance. My husband and I have 3 girls and we thought long and hard before we decided that although we would have liked a 4th child, we looked at it , and the impact on our other 3 girls, that is responsible parenting.
Also on the news I heard that 2 or 3 of her first 6 kids have some sort of disability..She is a selfish woman. Who is going to pay for their care and treatment, especially if they are special needs, she should give them all up. But the kids are the ones who suffer, she shouldnt be allowed to make money off of what she has done, and if she does she should pay back the state of California

Based on your previous posts, how well you take care of yourself and your picture, somehow I seriously doubt this!

What's worse is how she took advantage of her parents. Her mother never knew about the $167K settlement that she received. She also says that Nadya has never bought anything for the children other than toys. She has never bought them food or clothing.

I post this on the other thread when I read about it last night on MSN.There's something really wrong with this woman. Her thinking is not normal on so many levels and I fear the ones that are suffering/ going to suffer is her children. Really sad and sickening.


While I have no problem with households getting food stamps if it's needed. I do have a HUGE problem with this lady trying to sugar coat her receiving them by saying she doesn't think it's welfare. She has NOT worked for years thus she has NOT paid into any programs such as the food stamps program and that I do have a big problem with while she's receiving aid.Doesn't matter to me if she only paid 10.00 a month in taxes , thats 10.00 MORE to help fund the program than what it's getting from her. If she's not working, paying rent, buying food etc ( per her OWN Mother's interviews stating this ) what was she doing with the 3 SSI checks she received for her 3 children and her self ?, I can't help but think she took that money and paid for these IVF treatments. UNREAL ! That's NOT her money to be using if she did that ( and I pretty sure that IS what she did ). Those SSI checks are meant to provide the NEEDS of the children receiving them. (And people wonder WHY they get turned down daily for SSI when there's truly is a medical issue.) She's abusing the system and I can only hope and pray there's a social worker assigned to her, also a social worker assigned to the 3 children whom are getting the SSI. I hope their case worker will step in and remove her as the overseer of the checks and assign a case manager for the kids. At least the checks will go for that it's intended to do which is shelter, food, clothing, medical needs and anything per the guidelines set forth to provide for the care of the disable child. It sure as hell wasn't in the guidelines for a Parent or Parent(s) to pay for IVF's and sit on their asses for 6 years. ( BTW am I the only one that finds it unreal she can't work because of a bad back, but yet can carry a baby for 9 months ( or less in the 8 babies just born ) and can manage to pick up toddlers to boot ?).
Forgot to add:: If a baby is born premature ( under 37 weeks or of low birth weight, they automatically receive SSI) That's a nice income for her to receive checks for 8 children.
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/ssi/te...edite-ussi.htm

P.S.S If the babies receive SSI the hospital bill will be paid for from the disability program. The children will atomically receive Medicaid. The Medicaid program will go back ( in some states it's up to 6 months back in medical bills ) or which ever state medical program is being offered.

and because of people like this, those of us who've paid into the system, when we need it, it wont be there because it went out to people to didnt want to.

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This is truly disgusting. Truly. Too many people are happy to behave in this way, too. What is wrong with making your own way and if you have to struggle, so be it. I'm not talking about struggling as in not eating or something like that, but, honestly, this woman is disgusting, and sadly gives other people who truly need a little help, a bad name. No wonder people have an opinion of people on public assistance that is not a good one.

What can stop this???

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The stimulus package?

You have such a beautiful way of stating things!

Bold by me - way, WAY too many people in this country have an attitude of entitlement because "they want". I just don't GET how people are raised this way!

Why? Why is it his fault she used his sperm for 14 children?

The doctor is accountable. The mother is accountable. I don't see how the sperm donor should be held accountable.

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No, I think "over stimulation" contributes to this problem

I agree with Ambrianna, this sort of entitlement attitude is running rampant. Oh, woe is me, I don't have a cell phone/GPS/computer/Blue Ray -insert any number of things in there. So, the system has made it so that people don't go without really. People have figured out the system, and given their pride the boot....hey, everyone's doing it. I often refer to the WIC syndrome....I remember living in an area where all the young moms took WIC as a "benefit" of having a baby....forget the fact that their DH had a job, full medical coverage, and the rent and electric paid for....oh no, by all means, I am entitled to this, too. And, the kicker was when these same moms would give away the milk to the other neighbors...."oh , this is wayyy too much milk" um, you don't have to get ALL of it..... it's just a messed up system, and people have lost sight of things, I think.

No one suffers, in the big picuture. We are at war and no one is really suffering, except the families of those at war, and those IN the war. The rest of us are carrying on as usual. I'll stop now, as I'm getting my BP up

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I too wondered if he would be held responsible for the kids . The Mom and him KNEW each other. it wasn't like she went into the sperm bank and got a unknown donor. I so DON'T understand what is meant by he wants to be in their life's but not right now ?? HUH ???. Just what does that mean ? does he plan to wait till they are 18 and no chance of being responsible for their up bringing or support ? This whole story is sickening. I don't blame the granny one bit for wanting to walk away. I can't imagine working all those years planing for retirement and having to raise 14 BABIES at their age. no way in hell would I want to do that either.

OH! I'd forgotten about that WIC trick!

I'm not in the phase of life where all my friends are having babies so I hadn't thought about that for years.

I remember a family we went to church with. They hadn't lived here long and I didn't know them well at all, but when they were moving (transient people, they) they called and asked if I would like some groceries they weren't going to be able take with them. I said, "Sure, I guess," not knowing what I'd get.

While I appreciated that their hearts were in the right place and they were just trying to be generous, I was truly shocked at the GALLONS of milk they brought me, as well as the cereal and jars of peanut butter and eggs and cheese they had, as well.

"We really never use any of this stuff because it's not really what we like, but we figured since it's free we always go ahead and get it and if we don't use it up, no biggie. But, we figured before we left town we might as well cash in all our vouchers and let somebody have it who might use it."

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will she get WIC ? I again don't have a problem with families receiving the benefits of these programs as long as it's needed and the program isn't being abused. But I swear for the life in me I can't help but to think she's abusing and using the system for her personal gain.. I would really love to know who paid for the IVF implant ? was it her ?, the state? the father of the kids ?. Who picked up this bill ? I have heard people spend 1000's and 1000's of dollars doing this. Where did the money come from ? and if she was the one that footed the bill why the hell does she get food stamps at all ? Food stamps wasn't meant for people that can afford IVF it was meant to help people get back on their feet, not to afford food so they can tuck away 1000's of dollars to have babies to be placed on the food stamp program... This is why our program system is so screwed up and the county is broke. and to think, there's a bill to be passed allotting 250 BILLION for fund the Medicaid and food stamp program for leches like this person

This is off topic a little but I just found out my niece(teen Mom still in school working part time and does receive WIC ) is getting almost $3000 back from IRS. My problem with this is she only paid in $344. It is no wonder so many people do abuse the system and keep having babies. I just don't understand it. In my opinion there should be a time limit you are on assistance, a limit of how many times you can be on it(if you can't afford formula for one child why should you have more) and maybe they should have to pay it back with this tax money. Most people I have met on welfare are on it for years and I have yet see any of them actually save or use the tax refunds for anything other than frivolous items. Sorry I got off subject but while I was sitting here doing all the bills I just needed to vent, LOL

Let me predict that she will buy an iTouch with some of that money....

I didn't know that part, I thought she went to a sperm bank too. I'll admit I'm not delving very far into this story, it makes me so sad. Just when I think I've seen it all, something like this pops up. I cannot believe such a highly selfish, hypocritical, self-serving person is in charge of 14 young lives.

Ugh.

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I would say she's getting the EIC credit for the child. Now see I dont have a problem with this as she IS at least paying something into the system. I read not too long ago that the taxes that fund programs such as food stamps was less than 1% of tax dollars. While this may not be a whole lot it sure beats nothing at all. She's in school thats also a plus with me, beats her sitting at home doing nothing with her life. she's working again beats her running the streets and not even trying to better herself. maybe one day when she finishes school she have a better job and will be able pay in more than what she gets back. but for now she's a teen soon to be mom and she's trying to better her plot than just sitting on her ass doing nothing at all. this mom of 14 has done NOTHING but draw SSI and food stamps and not pay 1 penny back into the system in 6 years, But YET can afford IVF treatments, even if she didn't pay out of her pocket someone paid for them and she raked in the benefits of not having to work while getting food stamps and spending all her money and the 3 babies that get SSI on toy's, She's sickening. People like her is what gives the bad name to people on food stamps a bad name and what makes people that really need the help not take it. They dont want to be stereotyped as someone like her.

My mom when to apply for food stamps last month she's 73 years old has worked every single day till age 60 . She had a heart attack standing in my front room after this she wasn't able to return back to work. Since then she has had 2 mini strokes, but yet when she had the heart attack the was TURNED DOWN for SSI , know what they told her. You can get a job sitting !! took her 2 years to win her case This is a woman that worked for 44 YEARS before becoming disable, she paid her dues but yet had to FIGHT for her SSI for 2 years Then the kicker, when she went for food stamps they alloted her 9 DOLLARS OMG 9 DOLLARS !!. she gets 695.00 a MONTH ( She gets the retirement check at age 67 sorry dont know what it's called )
out of this she has to pay co payments ( 45.00 a month for meds) her rent 352.00 ( she lives in a senior apartment ) she's not able to drive, so she has to take a shuttle bus for appointments and any place she has to go. They charge 2.50 PER appointment, sometimes she has 3 doctors appointments per day.Then she is required to have a phone of some sort per the rules of the apartment. so thats another 59.00 a month. plus the apartment doesn't receive any signal for TV stations so all the seniors have to have cable, she has the lowest one she can get it's 30.00 a month. Now they just told her the rent is going up 25.00 more starting Feb 26. she is left with less than 175.00 to live on all month long. and heres this LEECH getting food stamps, not working hasn't paid a penny in taxes for 6 years and god only knows how much she will get back in taxes and what she will receive in welfare for the next 18 years and my mother thats worked for 44 years gets 9.00 in food stamps, Now talk about SCREWED UP thats screwed totally and sad part this holds true for 1000's people thats disable or the aging UNREAL !!

Ambrianna here's just one of the stories I've read about the father of the babies.
It says he was in love with her and wanted to marry her, but she wanted to have kids alone. WTF ?? so this is why I have to wonder if he will later be responsible for the care or even the cost of these babies.

Nadya Suleman, Octuplets Mom, Identifies Fertilization Clinic

This is incorrect. My son was born same Gestational age as these 8, at 31 weeks. We did not qualify for any sort of assistance since his birth. Just because they are born early, does not mean they will get government assistance... Or wait, maybe I just don't know how to work the system like she does?

Both my kids were born under 37 weeks and they never received anything. I don't think it's "automatic".

In fact I've know lots of people with babies born before 37 weeks and none of them receive SSI.

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Well, she could use some of that disability money for a tummy tuck!

Seriously though, I cannot believe that her own mother did not know about this money. I think that is probably proof that she used it for her infertility treatments.

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Ladies, ladies, why all the hollerin? Why all the complaining. We are just spreading the wealth!!!! Ain't it grand.

$3000 tax rebate and you only paid $300 in taxes? Spreading the wealth, baby.

Food stamps and WIC because you want someone else to pay to feed your kids? Spreading the wealth, baby.

Oh, and for the record, I paid $15,000 for my IVF procedure. Money I saved.



And it is only going to get better.

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So the stimulus did pass today, so she's going to be getting one heafty check... 4200 just for the kids alone... I hope that the hospital starts collections against her for the babies... They can just start confiscating the stimulus checks, SSI, WIC..... All of it to pay the cost of keeping the babies in the NICU.

I'm so sorry I stand corrected, I too had a preemie and no one talked to me about getting SSI for her. I just took the link I posted as being something new than 6 years ago when I had my little girl. but it does say she could receive SSI due to the low birth weight. And I'm sure if there's away for her to get it she'll find it.. sorry about the SSI I was looking for rules on her back injury, not working and having babies while drawing SSI. guess she was in her LEGAL rights to be able to do this as I didn't find anything about it. but morally she knows she was wrong or does she ?

Truly unbelievable.

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This is outrageous - I am so sick of paying taxes to support irresponsible people. DH and I have done lots of planning, saving, delaying having children, delaying purchases, buying medical and disability insurance, etc., etc., etc. trying to be responsible and be able to live without sponging off other people. I am sick of people trying to get sympathy and government handouts because of bad situations that they put themselves in because they can't or won't make good decisions.

I haven't heard it/read it mentioned elsewhere, but when I was driving home yesterday afternoon, I heard some DJ's on a radio show mention this lady wanted 2 million dollars to appear on Oprah.

Did anyone else hear such a thing? I'm sure there's plenty of rumor floating around as well as truth, just curious if anyone else heard about the Oprah thing.

The DJ's went on to discuss how it on average costs 2.8 million to raise one child (not sure where he got that number), with clothes, food, education, etc. One of them was so passionate about the subject, I've never heard a guy become so riled over an issue like this. He was really mad!

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You should hear what my husband has said about this ear plugs please.

I think she looks like she's had plastic surgery - lips, nose job, cheek implants?
And I don't know how you have the time or money with all those kids to get your nails done. I'm happy taxpayers get to pay for her luxuries!
If your responsible enough to have kids you should be the one responsible for supporting them and ot expect a handout.

I wont watch any station that pays her. She's a loon and needs to be checked out.

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Any payment she gets for appearances should go straight to the hospital to pay for the million+ birth costs. The taxpayers of the state of California should not have to reimburse the hospital.

I did not know that amazing I had 3 preemies all born early before 37 weeks, one 31 weeker and two 32 weekers and they were low birthweight and I never got anything and one was in the NICU and had apnea but I never got anything.

As Judge Marilyn Milian would say "Cha-Ching Ching let the cash register ring" Well something like that. Thats what this woman is seeing $$$$ signs.

You know being preemies these kids are more prone to developmental delays, ADHD, Autism, Cerebal Palsy just to name a few problems.

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Because as she has stated it was/is her boyfriend and he agreed to having children with her and she was the one who chose to be a single mom and not allow him in their lives right now, she stated something to the effect of he can be in their lives but not now but later when the time is right, when is the time going to be right? When they get married?

He is listed on all the birth certificates of the other 6 children. That is why he should be held responsible, he gave his sperm to the IVF clinic to fertilize the eggs she had harvested and he knew full well what he was doing if he didnt want kids he could have said to her #$%^ off you want babies get anoymous donors to fertilize your eggs. If it was an anonymous donor he could not nor would he be legally be held responsible for the children, but this was HIS Choice.

Do you really think my husband and I would go back to the clinic who helped us get Pregnant with Stefan and ask them to reveal the donor and say I wanted their name to collect Child Support? I don't think so, my case it was a anonymous donor who was willing to help a family or families to have children, in The Octuplets case it was a conscious decision albeit idiotic decision to donate his sperm to have children with the love of his life he it has been said he wanted to marry her but she wasn't ready.

So your darn skippy he should be paying child support on all 14 kids, they wont get much but every little bit will help the children and the California Taxpayers from footing the whole bill.

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Oh my word ! I just read about the 3 babies with the disabilities
Octuplets' mom: 'I'm not being selfish' - Newsmakers- msnbc.com

disabilities - a son who is autistic, another child with ADHD and a third who is developmentally delayed in learning to speak.
OMG why oh why would she even think about more babies ?? I have a son also thats autistic and let me tell you it's no bed of roses to raise a child thats autistic.He has medical problem beyond just being autistic that will eat up a full day at doctor appointments sometimes requiring us to spend hours and hours having test done. He has to have medications daily, he goes to speech, he has 2 aide's at school that works with him on fine motor skills, He also has to have a teacher's aid to walk him to and from classrooms or the bathroom, he can never be left alone inside or outside the home or school. He sees 3 different doctor's due to his needs. He's been in the hospital 2 times in the last 3 years 11 days 1st time , 31 days 2nd time. He has seizures that also requires him to take 4 pills daily to control them. Plus his other meds. He has so many problems I can't for the LIFE in me imagine having 2 more children with special needs to care for on top of an autistic child. My son requires so much and there's only 1 of him, I just cant get pass her having 3 children with special needs and how she's going to care for them plus 8 tiny preemie babies too. why oh why would she even chance having more children by being implanted with 6 eggs knowing that more than likely at least 1 or more will have medical issues. I know how hard it is for us here with diving our time with just 4 kids, she has 14 !! oh my god there's noway she can give her children the time they need knowing she has 3 children with these kind of needs. This just makes me sick to think she this selfish, Poor babies will suffer in the long run , she's a very selfish person .

She's a collector, she "thinks" she's going to be THE perfect mom but she's hurting herself and especially those kids who had no choice to have her as a life giver. She'll probably eventually have them all taken away since all her past is coming to light and the state sees how much she's been mooching off them for the wrong reasons they have to see she's not all there.

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I think it is so sad, and these children are going to suffer because of this woman. I dont understand why anyone would implant this woman with at least 8 more fertilized eggs when she has 6 children at home and not even taking care of them. She claims she loves her children but if she did why would she risk having so many implanted and having all these problems to live with. She claims she takes care of her children herself but NOBODY can take care of this many children alone. Unless you have millions and are paying people to help you. She can not even take care of the hospital bills alone let alone all the things her children are going to need for the next 18 + years. I know that our country wants freedom but I do think that government needs to step in when people start having so many children to become a burden on society. Sometimes too much freedom is not a good thing. We want it but when people take advantage of it.. like this woman, then people will complain. You can't have it both ways. I think she should have her children taken away until she can show she can financially support them and until then she should be made to work even if it is picking up trash on the side of the roads 8 to 10 hours a day to help repay the tax payers for the burden she is causing.

I think the Doctor who implanted her should be responsible for the cost of raising them. He should have looked into whether she was mentally and financially and emotionally stable to handle these children.

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Did anyone watch the Dateline interview with Ann Curry? I got so mad when at the end of show Ann gave people a website to donate money to help this woman. WHAT???? Aren't taxpayers doing enough? This woman is off her ever loving rocker!!! I also think that the sperm donor should be held financially responsible in some way. From what I understand, she went to him several times for donations, and he agreed even when he knew her financial status. I hate to say it, but I really hope the state steps in and takes some of these kids to place them in financially/emotionally stable homes. I got so frustrated watching that interview. How can she possibly think that what she's doing isn't selfish or irresponsible?

Just an interesting observation, but, where are all the people who defend those on public aid who's kid gets an ice cream from the ice cream man??? If I recall correctly, they were basically saying it is none of their business what they do with the money they get for aid. Hmmmm......

Just wondering.....

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Buying ice cream and buying BABIES while receiving food stamps is not even comparable IMHO. thats like comparing apples to oranges.

I didn't watch the interview, but have caught snippets here and there. I saw a clip this morning of her with the babies and I noticed she had a beautiful french manicure. First of all, when did she have the time, and who paid for it? I have one 2 yo and getting my hair cut every 4 months is the best I can do!! Plus, I have to buy diapers, not manicures, and I love to get my nails done!!

I was also wondering how the hospital staff feels about her?

Also......doesn't it look like she's had her lips done???

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She does look like she's had some "work" done. The other night I heard a station mentioning something about her resemblence to Angelina Jolie.

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Yahoo had a picture of her side by side with Angelina Jolie. Have to say they do look a lot alike. The lips what y'all are talking about, I'm still kinda confused by what y'all are meaning when you say she had "work" done on them. What do you mean ?? like the lipstick or lip liner ? sorry I trying to understand.

P.s I have never had my nails done in my life, I'm guessing that cost a pretty penny to keep them up huh ? If I remember right you have to have them done every week or am I getting confused again

"work" to make them look like blowfish lips like jolies

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oh, definitely not comparable, but, what I'm trying to say is that no one is saying this woman has the right to do what she wants with the money (fake nails, etc.).I'm not conveying the connection adequately, I'm afraid.

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No, like she's had implants or injections in her lips. And the nails around here are about $30 dollars but you have to have them filled periodically. Not something I want to spend money on right now! lol

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OMG!!! She takes paypal!!!!!LMAO!! What a sad joke...

http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com/

Her claim that she always loved kids and always wanted a large family and that's why she kept using IVF is bunk, IMNSHO. I sincerely doubt that the doc who implanted her did it for free, and that's a heckuva lot of $$ she spent right there. If she truly loved kids, and wanted to be a loving parent she woulda made darned sure she could at least provide them with basics, which *she* has never been able to do according to reports. And let's not even get into how much more most parents want to be able to provide their kids with when considering the future.

We also wanted a large family, but each time we considered another kid one of the first things we went over was whether or not we could support more kids. We considered the IVF route. At that time we had no kids, dh had a good paying job, and we had the cash to pay for the treatments above and beyond what our part would be after insurance paid their part, as well as a paid off mortgage and $$ in the bank. (ah, that I could make the same claim today ;-)

But we *really* did want a large family, not just to pop out kids. So we went the adoption route, the only thing that made sense to us at that time. We knew there would always be more kids already living on this planet than there would be families to adopt them. It wasn't a hard decision for us to choose adoption over IVF because what what we *really* wanted was kids, period.

Ms. Suleman could have adopted kids who are languishing in f-care in her state, it wouldn't have cost her a dime, and her state woulda given her cash stipends each month till the kids turned 18 as well as state medicaid cards and all sorts of other possible financial aid in order to encourage her to give kids a good home. (no, we have never gone that route, even when adopting kids from our state we paid fees and receive no aid even though the kids have special needs, but it *can* be done, is done all the time). She also coulda done foster care if she thought she was such a wonderful role model/parent and helped out a kid who may have been living with no love or guidance. Nope, she spent thousands to get where she is today.

I understand that some folks are averse to adoption and foster care, and if they have the resources (financial, time, support systems, etc. - it takes more than $$ to raise healthy & happy kids) for fertility treatments, more power to em.
If she were *not* a mom who used IVF for all her kids, if she were just some poor black inner city girl, or some undereducated rural girl, who kept popping out babies, nobody who think of helping her for one second, there would not be one drop of sympathy for her, would there? Because she is reasonably articulate, has all her teeth, and has the cunning to figure out how to work many systems she has gained the attention she desired. Yet young girls with less education, less family support than her are looked on as societal leeches.

Not all kids born are planned pregnancies, and even one of our adoptions was a surprise for us, something that just came up out of the blue and quickly. In those cases parents do the best they can to provide for their kids, but it's usually one at a time.

In her case, no visible means of support, no father (the sperm donor doesn't count at this point in her book), and she darned well wasn't there with her kids 24/7 if she's been going to school and her own mom has been doing the majority of the child care. She had no qualms about burdening her parents with responsibilities that are hers.

She went ahead and had this last implantation when she already had 6 kids 7 & under, 3 with sn's, and NO JOB or dad in the picture to co-parent!!!! How can I be expected to have sympathy for someone who deliberately, and with great thought, decided to deprive her older kids of whatever meager resources she had for them? You can't just walk into an IVF clinic and badda bing badda bang get implanted. Usually there are all sorts of medical tests as well as at least a minimal pysch eval.

And she wants folks like my family, hard working tax-paying citizens, to have feel warm and fuzzy about her? I don't think so, not me. I can't think of any argument someone can make to me that would change my mind.

I hate the idea of sibs getting split up, am not at all overly fond of our country's system of CPS. I have no idea what would be a solution to the puzzle of how all those kids will have their needs taken of at this point. I just hope that there is someone out there with remarkable wisdom who will have the answer.

I am not a dr. so I can't pass judgment on whether I think she is mentally ill or just incredibly immature. She sure seems to me to be stuck in that self-centered phase of childhood, but what do I know?

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Ahh got ya . While I think it's really not anyone's business what another person does with their food stamps ( example buying ice cream while getting food stamps ) I think this is over the top. When a person is plainly abusing the system as this mom is doing. example having 1000's and 1000's of dollars to spend IVF treatments Vs a ice cream that may have been a once in a while treat for her child in the other case then this DOES became everyone's business since it's all out in the publics view and there's no question that she's spending 1000 X's more money on the tax's payers dollars than an occasional ice cream.( hope that makes sense )( I too might not be conveying what I want to say either ). My issues really isn't that she gets food stamps but what she is doing with the children's SSI money and collecting Disability checks from a back injury but yet can carry a baby or babies for at least 7 months.That she can get up in National TV and say she takes care of her children .NO YOU DON'T NEVER HAD NEVER WILL !. So while I do think people really dont need to stick their noses into a mother buying ice cream, this case isn't about just ice cream it's about claiming she can take care of her children and EXPECTING tax payers to foot the bill for her.
hope that came out right, I'm really upset to learn she has 3 special need children and she probably just had at least another one 2 weeks ago.
Lord help me I know what I want to say I just can't get it out the way I want too