To groovygirl, like I said if you choose to drive and use your cell phone it is most definitely my business all the way 100 percent, when you decide to get behind the wheel of a car and decide to talk on your cell phone, your negligance is putting my life and so many other innocent lives at risk of potential serious harm or worse death, so it is my business 100 percent, totally irresponsible on all levels. Furthermore anyone else who thinks that texting while driving is okay also, again no common sense....There is never ever a reason to talk or text and drive, simply stop and pull over it takes seconds to do so...Talking on a cell phone is more important then a life???? Catherine

OMG!!! Let it go already! It is not your business because there is NOTHING you can do about it. I am not going to change it for you, so let it go....find a new cause....one you can actually do something about. I have been driving for 30 years and never had an accident. You are acting like I am drinking and driving. Don't you ever talk to people that are in the car with you? It is a quite easy task to talk and drive....all at the same time. I'm a big girl!!!

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a hands free would be the same as talking to someone in the car, texting and having to hold the phone isnt. seen too many teens in the paper thinking they can text and drive at the same time so they get into the paper in the obituaries section

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Yes, I don't feel safe texting while driving. I would not feel safe eating, or applying make-up while driving either.

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I text, talk, eat, apply makeup and am doing just fine, thank you very much.

Kids can be a distraction ...more so than a cell phone can be.

I don't see much difference in a regular person using a cell phone while driving and a trucker talking on his CB while driving.

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I found mine, and I'm happier with it than not.

But it is pretty much like talking to someone sitting next to you. Should we no longer do that as well? Driving kids is a distraction - maybe they should just stay at home now.

I've had more people "almost" hit me (from the appearance of things) doing absolutely nothing BUT driving. <shrug> I guess that means they should all stay off the road because driving in and of itself is distracting to them.

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I talk on the phone and drive. I do not have a handfree. I do not text and drive, though. That's harder, requires you to take your eyes off the road and requires more concentration (at least for me) so I don't do that.

Lisa

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Ah, finally some other gifted brains!! lol

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I never talk on the cell while driving. And I have a "gifted brain". Thats a chance I won't take for myself or anyone else on the road. I've seen a lot of idiots driving while on their phones. Swerving, drivng too fast, driving too slow. It really ticks me off too. I was actually almost run off the road by some moron on the phone and when he realized he almost hit me he made that stupid oops face and pointed at the freakin phone on his ear and said sorry!!! MORON!!!

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Steering the Vehicle
To begin driving the vehicle, use a relaxed grip on the steering
wheel and always drive with BOTH hands on the wheel. A
firm (but not tight) grip allows you to “feel” the road
(vibrations, etc.) better. Don’t develop the habit of driving
with your elbow or arm propped on the door or out the
window. You won’t have full control of the steering wheel and
a sideswipe could take off your arm.
You not only steer with your hands, but also with your eyes!
Always look where you want to go. This tells your brain what
to do with your hands. Your peripheral vision (i.e., your vision
to each side) helps you to keep your road position.
The following information outlines the
steering methods for safe vehicle operation:
1. Looking at the steering wheel as a clock
face, drivers should place the left hand at
the 9 o’clock position and the right hand
at 3 o’clock position on the steering
wheel. This position helps avoid injury
from air bag deployment during an accident.
When using the turn signal indicators, headlight dimmer
and windshield wiper controls, hand placement will
change. You should have a slight bend in the elbow when
the palm of your hand reaches the top of the steering
wheel. Never sit in a position where your elbows are
locked in a “stiff arm” type position.
2. Do not let the steering wheel slip through your fingers
when turning/steering. Reverse the hand and arm
movements made during the turn when coming out of a
turn. This “counter-steering” makes for smooth turns and
will also help in skids and when driving on snow and ice.
3. Do not cross your arms when steering or turning. It is
OK to cross wrists while turning. But crossing arms may
cause clothing and jewelry to interfere with safe turning.
Also, you would suffer more serious injuries should the
air bag deploy.
4. There are two generally accepted steering methods:
Push-Pull and Hand-over-Hand.
• The Push-Pull method is recommended because it
slows down turning movements making for a
smoother, safer turn. It also keeps both hands on the
steering wheel through the entire maneuver. Both
hands move in an up and down motion on the sides of
the steering wheel—the right hand on the right-hand
side and the other on the left-hand side.



no mention of how to hold the cell and drive in this driving manual. Guess this state doesnt have gifted brains will check the others sometime

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A 2006 University of Utah study proposed that driving while using a cell-phone may be as dangerous as driving while intoxicated. "Just like you put yourself and other people at risk when you drive drunk, you put yourself and others at risk when you use a cell-phone and drive," writes Professor David Strayer. "The level of impairment is very similar."

Conclusion: When driving conditions and time on task were controlled for, the impairments associated with using a cell phone while driving can be as profound as those associated with driving while drunk.

http://www.hfes.org/Web/Pubpages/celldrunk.pdf


You brought it up ...............................

FYI -- I consider my brain to be pretty nifty, and I can't imagine talking on the phone while driving. I turn it off and pick up messages when I am parked. I get so tired of silently yelling at distracted drivers "put the damn phone down" while driving. Same with kids, they were in their car seats or belted and that was that unless I pulled over.

OMG!!! Do you really need instructions on how to drive? Maybe you should not talk and drive....lol. I did not see how to eat and drive there either, but people do it. Hey, I also don't see where it tells you how to roll your window down. Do you know how? If you can't talk and drive, don't do it. If you can, then do....very simple.

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If yu can't imagine doing it, then don't do it. I am capable, so I do it. I am not telling you that you have to. If you get tired of yelling at other drivers....then mind your business and don't do it.

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no I dont but I use a hands free so my hands are on the wheel like they are suppose to be, I dont eat and drive, I dont put on makeup and drive or read and drive, no reason for my window to go down while driving I hate the wind in my face. Have to ask my cousins how many times they've pull over a DUI and they ramble on about how their capable, how they was in control and all.

Dont go to NJ and talk on your non hands free cell phone they will pull you over and give you a ticket and I hope they put that law in everywhere.

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Oh, you are such a good person.... I am just glad I am capable of driving without instructions and talking while I do it!

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I feel exactly the same, no eating while driving, no make up while driving, I don't even mess with my radio while driving, I put in a cd before I leave and listen to the same CD the whole time in the car.

I also feel this should be a law everywhere. If people feel the need to talk while driving make it hands free. We were always taught in the wrong situations your car turns into a weapon. Thats how I feel when people are doing other stupid things while driving. Unfortunatley they probably won't hurt themselves it'll be some other person on the road who has nothing to do with it.

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Not to stir the pot...but...how many of you smoke and drive? I've seen people talking on their phones, smoking, and driving.

FYI... I do talk on my phone while driving. I occasionally eat, and I sometimes grab my water bottle and take a slug. True confessions.

Just yesterday I was driving behind someone having a hands-free phone converstation. His left hand was on the steering wheel while his right hand was gesturing wildly. I couldn't tell if he was having an arguement or was just Italian! Luckily he was driving just fine.

It was quite entertaining!

Oh good grief whatever preach on oh mighty one

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This discussion is quite a site for soar ayes!

Oar knot...

I talk on mine. I eat sometimes, too, definitely drink water and I'll admit that I certainly checked on my child in the backseat quite a bit when he was little. I'll bet I'm not the only one who has reached through the middle seats to pick up a sippy cup or pacifier to console a little one without pulling over.

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groovygirl you seem to be quite upset, again if you claim to have driven for 30 years without a accident, we can only hope your telling the truth..I do at almost 46 years old driving since I was 16, and in all those years, I was involved in a accident, caused by someone who was talking on their cell phone and clearly went right through the red light, hit me head on and turned my suv jeep around 3 times and I landed on the other side of the road. Luck for me I only suffered minor cuts and bruises. However being my first accident I was clearly shaken up, my jeep was totalled.My life was saved, again anyone who thinks they can talk and text if plain stupid and totally irresponsible on their part. So far Groovygirl you have been lucky, but again god forbid anything does happen as a result of you needing to talk and drive, you will never be the same and you cause some innocent driver their life. I truly cannot wrap myself around your so careless thinking as having no regard for human life... pathetic...Catherine

I think I've been driving behind this guy before too....

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I am not upset, but how dare you call me pathetic because yuo don't agree with my choice. YOU BETTER back off lady. I did not cause your accident or any others. YOU are pathetic , not me! Can't you join MADD or something so you can crusade....because you are not ever going to be able to control what I do.

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Ewe are so write. I enjoyed you're sentence.

It is just amazing how people can avoid an obvious thing and then thump their chest and pat themselves on the back exclaiming how great and almighty they are about how they drive. Someone else mused about what other drivers around these people would have to say. I agree, the other drivers would have plenty to say.

A cell conversation becomes so much more involved and people concentrate on it so much more. Even standing in line at the store I see this, the person yakking (ha, is that even a word?) sees/hears/is aware of nothing else.

People get so full of themselves and can't consider anything else.

dl

priceless

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I can't understand I am too full of myself oh wait I have to stop typing I almost hit a school bus full of kindergarteners on their way to church.

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I get nervous when people call me while driving.. plus I feel they aren't giving me their undivided attention. When someone calls me to chat, I would like all their attention..I'm selfish

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You already gave us exhibit "A" in another thread and your cell phone nonsense is exhibit "B". You figure it out. You aren't the only one full of yourself with your self touted driving skills. No one has to talk on the phone while driving, for a job, for a person, for anything. It just doesn't have to happen.

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I have a bluetooth in my Lincoln so its hands free talking for me.

So if someone let's say has been driving for fifty years and talking on a cell phone (hypothetical) and never had an accident it couldn't possibly be because that person was paying attention and was able to drive and talk at the same time. Right? It must be because the drivers around them notice they are on the phone and go the other way or something.

I think the people that think their limitations are the same limitations as everyone else are full of themselves, silly, and a little removed from reality.

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I can only speak for myself, but I always try to drive defensively--anticipating that the other drivers are distracted, stupid, aggressive or under the influence....
So, keeping that in mind; yes, a lot accidents are averted/prevented because someone is paying more attention to you (general you) than you are paying attention to you.

I, personally, find it rude and offensive for anyone to carry on a private conversation (whether by phone or in person) in public. I don't care to hear the details of your date/your mother-in-law/your period/your gyn. visit for that nasty smell/your late car payment/etc. Unfortunately, when you conduct these type of conversations in the check-out line at Target--I have no choice but to hear it! It's kind of like wearing a very overpowering perfume! It might smell lovely on you, but when it triggers an asthma attack....
I just really think some people have an over-inflated sense of entitlement and self importance ("see me?" "I can't even go shopping, without having to a phone call").

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Would you think the same thing of the person who drinks and drives and has managed to have never been in an accident? Perhaps that person is just inherently better at driving and shouldn't get the DUI at the next random check point?

I don't understand the anger and defensiveness I am seeing here. Driving a vehicle is a privilege, not a right. (rite, write, wright ... )

Don't have to......want to and can.

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Probably not for long at the rate LA is passing cell phone usage laws.

Louisiana Highway Safety Laws

No law yet...so I talk away! I have a bluetooth if I need it. My 30 years accident free is not luck...it is skill.

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Considering the subject, this is one of the more amusing lines of this thread.

Sell loss??

How will E.T. fone home?

You need to grow up . If you have been driving for 30 years how many accidents have you caused? Do you have children that drive? I dont believe in talking on the phone and driving. At first I thought you were a teenager by listening to you and your user name. Time to grow up before you kill someone.

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I have a hands-free, and the only call I take is from my kids/husband. They know not to call to chat if I'm driving. I wouldn't text while I drove anymore than I would type a term paper while driving.

It is also important to understand that if you are on the phone & involved in an accident, it is contributory negligence. Not going to matter if it seems the accident was unavoidable on your part, since it is impossible to prove your reaction was not influenced by being on the phone.

Failure to use a hands-free phone is a primary offense here. I think it will eventually be the case nationally.

Perhaps there will be a "Super Duper Driver" exception

Yup, what you said. We lived just fine for years without people thinking a phone call is so important that it can't wait until you pull over or get home. When I see people chatting away on a cell, all I can think is ego trip.

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I already said....30 years ACCIDENT FREE. Maybe when you grow up, you will be able to read.I don't want to grow up if it means being a bossy witch like you!

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Okay...how does using a phone have anything to do with ego? You people really should join a club and find something useful to complain about, cause you are not changing my phone habits. Get over it!

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It is impossible four ewe too have ben driving and talking on a sell fone fore 30 years.

Thee issue isn't JUST how long you have ben driving.

Awl it takes is won thyme two slip up. Just won.

That is usually what I think of too, when I see someone yapping on the cell phone. I can see a time and a place for it, but, not in the car while driving. I can see talking on a hands-free device for some instances. I have bluetooth thru the Garmin, and use that sometimes, but, not often. If my kids or DH call me, I do take their call on the hands free.

It's so funny to see how many people have a cell phone plastered to the side of their face....... For the longest time, II would about faint if my phone went off while I was in a store. Now, it's rare NOT to hear a cell phone going off, no matter WHERE you are.

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I used to think 'ego trip'. I don't so much, anymore, unless it's a high dollar phone or an IPhone. Those seem more about status to me. I realize they have awesome features and some buy them for that reason, butt sometimes... it just seems like a bragging writes thing.

I've been known to answer a phone while driving, but don't talk for an extended period of time. I get the information I need and then get on with my trip. I don't have a regular cell plan - a Tracfone with 100 minutes/month suits my needs fine, which means I'm not using it as a chit-chat device.

The only time I've talked for an extended conversation has been a couple of times on the interstate in the middle of nowhere in Missouri when there wasn't any traffic to speak of. The road was straight, there was no cross traffic to encounter, and I was on my way to a board meeting and some new developments had arisen that I wasn't going to get a chance to hear before getting there if the other board member didn't fill me in then.

As soon as I hit traffic, the conversation was over.

Point is I am a safe driver. I have used the phone for about 12 of the 30 and no accidents, no near misses. Instead of trying to cause problems here (silly spelling game you play) why don't you do something positive? I can't believe how you can pick and pick at a person. If you have children, I bet they will grow up insecure,as you are.

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Sorry. I may have worked a little too hard to drive my point home.

Bottom line....

Sometimes, other people are right and you are wrong.

There is no shame in saying, "Gosh, that never occurred to me. I should re-evaluate my position."

There IS often shame in sticking to your guns when your position is very obviously flawed.

I'm very secure, thanks much, but that kind of attitude inspires a side of me that rarely comes out in normal conversation or even on the web. I'll probably regret that I let it show tomorrow.

so nice to see you haven't aged a bit!
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Actually, no one is trying to change your "phone habit." (Interesting choice of words there.) You are the one that jumped into the last thread proudly proclaiming your right to put others in danger because no law exists in your state to prevent it.

What I am trying to understand is why you and a few others can't or won't admit it increases the danger to you and those around you and you don't care. Every study shows it. States are seeing the danger and enacting laws against it. It's like a smoker in denial that cigarettes cause cancer for themselves and to those around them. I love hearing the rants of smokers who can't light up and destroy everyone elses dinner now. Your temper tantrum is reminding me of that.

I've been driving 32 years, my husband's been driving 33 years, my three kids have collectively been driving 27 years. Not an accident to be found. Oh, I have 3 older siblings driving collectively over 75 years without an accident. Both my parents drove at least 60 years each without an accident. Not having an accident is proof of little to nothing.

I wish you well in your continued little, accident-free world.

If I thought I was wrong, I would say so. I do not feel I am wrong in talking on my phone. I am a safe driver and if I felt the least bit unsafe, I would not do it.I will not text while driving, because I am not secure with that. You really can't just bully someone into seeing things your way.....you just can't. Just like my school system using the word "site" for our list. It is no big deal, not hurting anyone. We also teach nonsense words to the kids when they learn to rhyme. It is part of what we do to teach reading. They are not real words. Site is our own name for the list and I don't know or care why they named it that. There are bigger issues, like my students having fathers in jail, having no coats, being beaten by their parents, etc. Life is just too short to worry about such trivial crap!!

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Alrighty.

You win.

Site it is.

You know nothing about me. When I asked if you were ever in an accident it was before you said that you havent. You need to take a chill pill. How many accidents have you caused or almost caused. You didnt answer my question about haveing kids that drove. You must be a good role model. Have a nice night from the bossy witch that I am.

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Public service announcement -- in using the Google about this subject, I have found studies show hands-free devices do not decrease the risk. The issue appears to be concentration on the conversation rather than the use of hands.

......... carry on ...........

Well, I am not arguing with myself....you are here!

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today? Oh girl! She makes me look wishy-washy!

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