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Old 02-17-2009, 07:21 AM
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Teens *sexting*

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Old 02-17-2009, 07:30 AM
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I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about. Is there a particular story?
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:49 AM
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What say you about kids facing criminal charges for this?
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Well, I guess if you think about it, it's actually child pornography & could probably be prosecuted as such...especially for the person/people who then texted it to someone else...

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Old 02-17-2009, 08:13 AM
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Is sexting talking dirty via texting??
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:20 AM
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Is sexting talking dirty via texting??
Here, what they call "sexting" is kids sending nude pictures of themselves to other kids, and then those kids send the pics on to others.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:54 AM
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The kids shouldnt be doing it but I think the kids should be educated in this subject, this happend in our school and some 45 kids got in trouble and now have to take classes about it, while I think this is a good idea the criminal idea was not,
even though the kids know that they should not do it im sure they didnt know they would have criminal charges on their record, now because of all of this
I think the kids now know better and just not do it, again I dont believe the kids
should be sending pictures at all but it happend.
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Old 02-17-2009, 03:31 PM
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The kids shouldnt be doing it but I think the kids should be educated in this subject, this happend in our school and some 45 kids got in trouble and now have to take classes about it, while I think this is a good idea the criminal idea was not,
even though the kids know that they should not do it im sure they didnt know they would have criminal charges on their record, now because of all of this
I think the kids now know better and just not do it, again I dont believe the kids
should be sending pictures at all but it happend.
Sadly, incoherent posts are common here at My Coupons but I don't understand how people with atrocious writing skills manage to function in the outside, literate world. I'm interested in your opinion of the 'Communication' thread. How would you answer the questions posed by Deddlastt?

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Old 02-17-2009, 03:40 PM
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My dd is "friends" with my 13 yo niece on myspace. The other day she called me and told me that my niece had a pic that she had apparently taken of herself in her undies and bra posted on her space. By the time I checked it was gone. She had a bf she was in "love" with (he has since dumped her) so it may have been for his benefit. It's sad and disgusting that teens are resorting to this behavior. Is it criminal?? Probably not, but where are the parents?

As far as my niece goes, I have interfered by informing her parents of some of what is going on and gotten nowhere, so this time I didn't say a word.
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Old 02-17-2009, 03:59 PM
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Sadly, incoherent posts are common here at My Coupons but I don't understand how people with atrocious writing skills manage to function in the outside, literate world. I'm interested in your opinion of the 'Communication' thread. How would you answer the questions posed by Deddlastt?

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You have an error in your own post! Why are you people so mean? Why can't you stand it when someone is not perfect?
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:07 PM
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You have an error in your own post! Why are you people so mean? Why can't you stand it when someone is not perfect?
The issue isn't about an error or perfection. It is about coherency.
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:28 PM
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The issue isn't about an error or perfection. It is about coherency.
It is still mean. We are not all educated, and it is cruel to pick on someone in front of others to point out that they might have a problem writing. There is no excuse for it and no good to come of it.
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:40 PM
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Old 02-17-2009, 05:14 PM
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It is still mean. We are not all educated, and it is cruel to pick on someone in front of others to point out that they might have a problem writing. There is no excuse for it and no good to come of it.
Possibly, good could come from it through an explanation as to why these people think that this is an acceptable way to communicate on a public message board. If we could understand their thought process, perhaps we can change the attitudes of children so that they want to learn proper skills.

However, nothing can change while we have defensive teachers who think that these atrocious writing skills are acceptable and actually perpetrate them. I read the post you deleted and I'm astounded and horrified that you are a teacher. I think your attitude explains why the education system is such a mess. It's not a big deal for a teacher to misspell a word or two but quite another for a teacher to stand her ground when she's clearly wrong and insist that spelling and basic language skills aren't important! We can't possibly expect children to learn properly if the teachers care more about defending incoherency than learning to spell properly themselves! I don't care how your principal spells it ; vision is not spelled 'site' and fiercely defending your school for spelling it incorrectly only makes you seem as incompetent as the school that employs you.

I'm not surprised, though. After reading your incredibly selfish responses to the Cell Phone thread, it's clear that you think of no one and nothing but yourself. Perhaps our education system would benefit if you would put in half as much effort in educating the children you're paid to teach as you do in arguing with the people on this board.

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Old 02-17-2009, 05:22 PM
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It's really rather simple: If parents (generally speaking) paid more attention to what activities and behaviours that there child or children were engaged in, we'd all be better off.
People are not educating their children that one picture could land in a thousand "in-boxes" or on numerous websites.
I do think that children/teens who are caught engaging in this activity should be placed on probation, prohibited from owning/renting/using cell phones w/ picture capability and given hours of community service. But not criminal charges that would brand them as a sex offender. First time offenders would get a little leeway, as would their parents. But, should it happen a second time? The parents should be held accountable for failure to properly monitor and supervise their children.

A friend's 18 y/o was sending visual and written sexual explicit texts to his 16 y/o girlfriend. Her father intercepted one, and filed a complaint with local law enforcement. After the police showed up at his work, arrested in him front of God and everyone, took him to jail, booked him in and had a serious come-to-Jesus talk w/ the boy; He was scared straight. The DA chose not to pursue charges, however, the girl's parents swore out a restraining order against the boy. He can't have any contact with her whatsoever. Now, if he violates that? It's "big boy jail" for him, and the DA retained the rights to re-instate the prior charge.
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Old 02-17-2009, 05:32 PM
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Possibly, good could come from it through an explanation as to why these people think that this is an acceptable way to communicate on a public message board. If we could understand their thought process, perhaps we can change the attitudes of children so that they want to learn proper skills.

However, nothing can change while we have defensive teachers who think that these atrocious writing skills are acceptable and actually perpetrate them. I read the post you deleted and I'm astounded and horrified that you are a teacher. I think your attitude explains why the education system is such a mess. It's not a big deal for a teacher to misspell a word or two but quite another for a teacher to stand her ground when she's clearly wrong and insist that spelling and basic language skills aren't important! We can't possibly expect children to learn properly if the teachers care more about defending incoherency than learning to spell properly themselves! I don't care how your principal spells it ; vision is not spelled 'site' and fiercely defending your school for spelling it incorrectly only makes you seem as incompetent as the school that employs you.

I'm not surprised, though. After reading your incredibly selfish responses to the Cell Phone thread, it's clear that you think of no one and nothing but yourself. Perhaps our education system would benefit if you would put in half as much effort in educating the children you're paid to teach as you do in arguing with the people on this board.

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Well, again, it is someone that has no comprehension skills. I NEVER said that I do not teach my students how to write. If you were educated, you would know that inventive spelling is vital to the entire process. I am a wonderful teacher, and I have no problem "patting myself on the back." I am proud of the fact that I touch so many lives, and I am also proud that my students are taught that is is NOT okay to make fun of those that are not learning as quickly as they are. You are just a hateful person and I can guess your life, without asking. I have seen your kind before and it's sad.
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Old 02-17-2009, 05:45 PM
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Groovy & ddist, just ignore the losers that have nothing better to do that pick on other people's grammar. The ignore button is your friend -- unfortunately, all too often, these losers get quoted in other people's posts, but it's a start.

Apologies to all for any grotesque spelling errors I've made.
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Old 02-17-2009, 05:45 PM
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not sure why a teen needs more than a basic phone anyway. Mine has a basic no frills phone for when he goes to ballgames and stuff so he can call me when he needs me to pick him up and things like that.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:01 PM
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Groovy & ddist, just ignore the losers that have nothing better to do that pick on other people's grammar. The ignore button is your friend -- unfortunately, all too often, these losers get quoted in other people's posts, but it's a start.

Apologies to all for any grotesque spelling errors I've made.
Oh, thank you! I always forget about that ignore thingy! It would make it much easier.
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:08 PM
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:15 PM
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Oh, thank you! I always forget about that ignore thingy! It would make it much easier.
As truble has alluded to: Ignore works WONDERFULLY, until the person you are trying to ignore is quoted in response. Sometime you just can't get away from some people (I know, I've tried...)
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Old 02-17-2009, 06:57 PM
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You are just a hateful person and I can guess your life, without asking. I have seen your kind before and it's sad.
Groovygirl, I glanced through your posts and what is sad is that you can't see yourself clearly. In the last couple of days, you have insulted numerous posters on this board and showed your true colors. In less than two days, you have insulted at least eight different posters who didn't agree with you. Until this thread, I was not one of them as I deliberately chose to not participate in those other threads because you were so unreasonable.

In the last couple of days, you have argued with and insulted Deddlastt, Marilynk, ILUVLUCY420, Valorian, Wowitsdark, Njfl, Virgo10, and (now) me. You probably had problems with other posters, too but I only read two threads!

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I use mine when I want to or need to. No reason I should not. I pay for it, it is mine and my own choice. No one has the right to tell me how I should or should not use it, either. Now that....is annoying!
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OMG!!! Let it go already! It is not your business because there is NOTHING you can do about it. I am not going to change it for you, so let it go....find a new cause....one you can actually do something about
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I am not upset, but how dare you call me pathetic because yuo don't agree with my choice. YOU BETTER back off lady. I did not cause your accident or any others. YOU are pathetic , not me! Can't you join MADD or something so you can crusade....because you are not ever going to be able to control what I do.
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I can't believe how you can pick and pick at a person. If you have children, I bet they will grow up insecure,as you are.
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Okay...how does using a phone have anything to do with ego? You people really should join a club and find something useful to complain about, cause you are not changing my phone habits. Get over it!
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YOU BETTER back off lady.
You've already proven that you're incapable of teaching academics and I don't understand why you're patting yourself on the back for your great tolerance and kindness skills, either. The 'grammatically challenged' replies you made to these other posters don't sound kind and tolerant to me. Please explain how you're going to teach others skills that you don't possess. ROFL!

I hope you exhibit better control around children. Teaching isn't the ideal vocation for someone of your temperament.
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Well, again, it is someone that has no comprehension skills. I NEVER said that I do not teach my students how to write. If you were educated, you would know that inventive spelling is vital to the entire process. I am a wonderful teacher, and I have no problem "patting myself on the back." I am proud of the fact that I touch so many lives, and I am also proud that my students are taught that is is NOT okay to make fun of those that are not learning as quickly as they are. You are just a hateful person and I can guess your life, without asking. I have seen your kind before and it's sad.
I'd say "well said", because that is what you are looking for, but can't bring myself to do it. No one talked about making fun. The facts are in your posts, you've dug yourself deeper with about every third post you make. I found it difficult to get through ddist's post here. Her run on sentence, combined with errors, is very hard to follow. Very.

I will say it now. I just can't believe that our school system has allowed this (and other education related facts) to happen by passing people and graduating them. I agree, you seem to be part of the problem in looking the other way, or avoiding.

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Old 02-17-2009, 07:12 PM
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Groovygirl, I glanced through your posts and what is sad is that you can't see yourself clearly. In the last couple of days, you have insulted numerous posters on this board and showed your true colors. In less than two days, you have insulted at least eight different posters who didn't agree with you. Until this thread, I was not one of them as I deliberately chose to not participate in those other threads because you were so unreasonable.

In the last couple of days, you have argued with and insulted Deddlastt, Marilynk, ILUVLUCY420, Valorian, Wowitsdark, Njfl, Virgo10, and (now) me. You probably had problems with other posters, too but I only read two threads!























You've already proven that you're incapable of teaching academics and I don't understand why you're patting yourself on the back for your great tolerance and kindness skills, either. The 'grammatically challenged' replies you made to these other posters don't sound kind and tolerant to me. Please explain how you're going to teach others skills that you don't possess. ROFL!

I hope you exhibit better control around children. Teaching isn't the ideal vocation for someone of your temperament.
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Now, now...don't ya'll know that she was just reacting? She isn't really like that.

It scares the bejesus out of me that someone with such a temper issue is caring for and teaching extremely young and unsuspecting children.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:19 PM
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It isn't just the temper. It is the apparent instability and irrational responses to innocent discussion topics. Almost like an alcoholic type response. Weird .............
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It scares the bejesus out of me that some people on this board are allowed to mix with the general public, but groovygirl's not one of them.
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It scares the bejesus out of me that some people on this board are allowed to mix with the general public, but groovygirl's not one of them.
Thank you! I am sure some more nasty things were said, but I am using the ignore and it is peaceful! I was planning a lesson for my darling babies and did not want any negative vibes. I took off today and I miss those kids like mad!
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It scares the bejesus out of me that some people on this board are allowed to mix with the general public, but groovygirl's not one of them.
hmmmm....I could have SWORE that you said (at one time) that *I* was on your ignore list. *shrugs*

Sometimes truble, I think you take an opinion, not because you agree with it but simply because you have an issue w/ posters. Arguing for the sake of taking a stand against posters who may have offended you.
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:44 PM
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My lack of formal education leaves my grammar and/or spelling somewhat sub-par, so I prefer communicate with pictures. (not nude ones with minors though)
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Groovy & ddist, just ignore the losers that have nothing better to do that pick on other people's grammar.
Um Pot, on the Political Board, you made dozens of posts that nitpicked Ex-President Bush's grammar. As a matter of fact, you were so obsessed with criticizing his every word, that I'm surprised you could have forgotten how you gleefully pointed out any mistake (real and imagined). If mentioning incorrect grammar makes one 'a loser', your behavior would make you the biggest "loser" on the entire site.

I'm curious about something. I wasn't going to mention it but since you saw fit to dart in and insult me, it's fair game. I've noticed that (in recent months), you only relate well to those about which you can feel academically superior and rush to defend their every garbled sentence. As a matter of fact, your blind devotion to a couple of user names on this board is so intense that it's a bit disturbing.

Will the 'new' Truble2301 be as fanatically obsessed with spewing hate for Republican politicians as the old one or will you now just content yourself with collecting every damaged individual you can find? Have you decided to completely reinvent yourself or did you just replace the other person writing Truble2301's posts? ROFL!

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Old 02-17-2009, 07:52 PM
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Getting back to the OP's question, I think if parents have to ask what 'sexting' is, they'd better be a little more aware of what their children are doing!

Heck, my kids are grown and I know what sexting is. It's been talked about in the media a lot and in our area, some local teens got in trouble for it.

It's considered child porn by the law, but I honestly don't think a boy (or girl) who sends or receives it should have to be labeled a sex offender for the rest of their life. That's what happening in our area.

I think these young girls just throw their bodies out there way too freely, not realizing their actions are going to affect them for the rest of their lives.
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My lack of formal education leaves my grammar and/or spelling somewhat sub-par, so I prefer communicate with pictures. (not nude ones with minors though)

I always enjoy your pictures I find your grammar and spelling equally enjoyable.
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Well here is my 2 cents worth, since I have been on the fence many times before with issues of my usage of grammar, whether it be, misspelled words, forgetting to put a period, forgetting to put a commar, whatever the problem was with my usage of grammar. I have come to the point, where it will not bother me anymore. For a simple simple reason, this is a chat board, I am not in school,but but more then that, who truly cares in the scheme of things, life is way to short for me to worry about whether or not I am not using the correct grammar, perhaps to others it is a big deal.If reading a post and you find errors in grammar and that truly bothers someone, then move on and do not read my post. I refuse to let anyone comment about such a silly nonense issue, when in fact in the word, people should be more concerned with major issues, like our economy, the war, millions of people who are starving and suffering, people who are battling cancer. Perhaps then those issues will bring you into perspective. Again I am not perfect and neither is anyone else on these boards plain and simple..Truble as always I agree with you, life is way to short to worry about grammar....I will be waiting for the flames to come underneath this post, but go ahead. I will not change. Catherine
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:31 PM
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That was my point before and I got a bit ugly with some people that refused to see it. They kept digging into me. I was a bit confused when I first saw the school system calling the list what they did, but it did not take over my life. I just moved on. I am not actually defending them for calling it that, but i am saying it does not really matter and is no big deal. The words on the list are spelled correctly and that is what the kids see. It just does not hurt anything.

We have a hair salon here named Head Gamz (games). It looks crazy, but it is not going to upset me. There ARE many things to get upset about.....that is not one of them. If it was all I had to worry about I would be very thankful.
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:44 AM
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To groovygirl while I agree with you about the grammar issue, I do not like that you have picked so many fights here on the board lately with so many members, that is not acceptiable behavior. I just wanted to clear this up thanks. Catherine
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:11 AM
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Poor grammar bothers the heck out of me. However, I would never criticize a person for it because I really don't know any of you. Simple as that.

However, I will be honest in saying that if a post is difficult to read, as often yours are Catherine, I tend to skim and skip. I can see pointing out a mistake to a person once. The ranting on and on and picking fights about it, I find that arguing just for the sake of arguing and immature.
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Zookeeper , can I kindly ask you did you read my last post or anyone's that i have made lately and you still can tell me that they are hard to read??. Seriously you can still say that, again I am not perfect nor are you and I stand firm in my believe that if grammar for some is such a big issue , then I must be missing something, but I know I am not, I have things in order and in order of how important certain things are in life. I can totally understand is someone posts and their grammar is so bad, it would make it hard for someone to comprehend , however not in my case and should not be a issue for anyone here, simply put life if is way way too short to comment on grammar, we are not in school here.Sad that you find my posts hard to read. Sorry you feel that way. Catherine
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Groovy, I have a question for you, and it's not meant to pick. I know it is going to seem like it is, but I just noticed something and am trying to put some pieces together so I can have a handle on the context of all of this.

You mentioned how well your students go on to do in a post - that they perform very well when they move on to the next grade, or something along those lines.

I noticed in your guestbook (or whatever it is called here on this website) that you mentioned to another poster that you just finished up your schooling, or something to that effect. It was a recently-dated entry by you.

I was under the impression, based on your age and your statements about how well your students end up doing, that you have been in the classroom for quite a long time and have a considerable amount of experience under your belt. Truthfully, that was partly why I felt comfortable 'sparring' with you - I assumed you had been around the 'education block' many a time and had a long-term awareness of the various theories that have come and gone over the last 20 - 30 years.

I would have communicated differently with you had I understood you to be a brand new teacher, straight out of school and trying to make it through that 'first year'. A brand new teacher might not feel comfortable saying, "Um, 'site'? Who labeled it that way? It's wrong!" But a teacher with years of experience should have the clout to change errors put forth by the administration.
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:33 AM
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Catherine - I didn't mean to single you out in any negative way. I was just voicing my opinion. To me, run on sentences and paragraphs are very difficult to read. I'm sure others have no problem reading your posts, just as some may.

Everyone's going to have their own opinions; how they express them is a different story! LOL!
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zookeeper thanks for answering me back. I sincerely appreciate it very much. Peace. Catherine
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Catherine, one thing that might make this clearer is this...

Regardless of grammar issues, it expected that sentences will be 6-12 words long, on average. That is what the typical American's brain expects to encounter, and therefore processes with ease. We also speak at that rate.

Check your posts for the average number of words per sentence.

eta: Your last post was very easy to process...
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Wowitsdark, hon I will definitely keep the 6 words in a sentence in mind.. I so do sincerely appreciate your insight in this thread. Also thank you for the last sentence. I do so deeply appreciate the kind comment. Peace. Catherine
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Old 02-18-2009, 07:18 AM
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Groovy, I have a question for you, and it's not meant to pick. I know it is going to seem like it is, but I just noticed something and am trying to put some pieces together so I can have a handle on the context of all of this.

You mentioned how well your students go on to do in a post - that they perform very well when they move on to the next grade, or something along those lines.

I noticed in your guestbook (or whatever it is called here on this website) that you mentioned to another poster that you just finished up your schooling, or something to that effect. It was a recently-dated entry by you.

I was under the impression, based on your age and your statements about how well your students end up doing, that you have been in the classroom for quite a long time and have a considerable amount of experience under your belt. Truthfully, that was partly why I felt comfortable 'sparring' with you - I assumed you had been around the 'education block' many a time and had a long-term awareness of the various theories that have come and gone over the last 20 - 30 years.

I would have communicated differently with you had I understood you to be a brand new teacher, straight out of school and trying to make it through that 'first year'. A brand new teacher might not feel comfortable saying, "Um, 'site'? Who labeled it that way? It's wrong!" But a teacher with years of experience should have the clout to change errors put forth by the administration.

I only graduated in 2007, but I was teaching before that. I have only actually been teaching for about 4 years, but that is 4 years of students that have left Kindergarten with all of the skills they need. The first grade teachers keep us informed. Again, Site does not bother me because it harms no one. The kids DO NOT see it and I am sure they have their reason for using it. I don't care what it is.
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gg - curious as to how you could teach (full time?) for four years without a degree and what prompted you to get a degree if you didn't need it for four years. Are you in a public school system or private?

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gg - curious as to how you could teach (full time?) for four years without a degree and what prompted you to get a degree if you didn't need it for four years. Are you in a public school system or private?

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I had an associates degree, plus more ED classes when I started. I was hired as a long-term sub. and stayed on under the condition that I would finish and get my BA in Early childhood. I wanted the degree anyway, and was already in school to get it. I wanted to be as well trained as possible in early childhood, because I think it is neglected in our area. Early Childhood children are way different than older children and need to be taught as such.
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I had an associates degree, plus more ED classes when I started. I was hired as a long-term sub. and stayed on under the condition that I would finish and get my BA in Early childhood. I wanted the degree anyway, and was already in school to get it. I wanted to be as well trained as possible in early childhood, because I think it is neglected in our area. Early Childhood children are way different than older children and need to be taught as such.
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No problem. There is more to the story, but it is long. It all has to do with the Recovery District and Hurricane Katrina.
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