Saw this on CNN. I lived outside DC when this happened. I am happy for her parents, and relieved it may come to an end.

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I can't wait to hear her parents apologize for the hell they put Gary Condit through. I'm very sorry for their loss, but they ruined another life with their anger and bitterness and that was so wrong. No, he shouldn't have had an affair with her -- and she shouldn't have had an affair with him, either. But they accused him of murder, which was beyond the bounds of decency and completed unsupported by any evidence..

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I wonder who did it?

Sad to say, but I always thought that Gary Condit had something to do with it...I thought that perhaps he hired someone to do away with her to shut her up...I'm glad that I was wrong and that justice will soon be served. ~Lisa

I agree with you, Lisa. I still believe Gary Condit had something to do with it. It was just way too convenient for her to 'disappear' like that. Perhaps he hired this guy to do her in or maybe he's just the scapegoat. I think they would have found her body sooner and the investigation would have been more focused had 9/11 not happened. All attention went to that and the Levy case was basically forgotten. (At least I'm thinking that's when this happened -- was around 9/11?)

According to the local news, they have a man in custody that told a cell mate that he killed her. He is in jail for attacking two other women in Rock Creek Park.

The two (known) attacks that Ingmar Guandique committed on women in the same area in the same time frame were so similar to the circumstances of the Chandra Levy crime scene, that they might as well be called identical. Both victims have said that Guandique's motive was not robbery and they are convinced that he meant to rape and/or kill them. Since Guandique left the valuables behind, I'd say they're right. I think Guandique was attracted to the valuables and wanted them but his primary motivation was to rape and/or kill young women.

The police were either incompetent or blocked, depending on whether you believe them or Gary Condit. Gary Condit could be a scapegoat who had the bad luck to be involved with Guandique's victim or Guandique's similar crimes could have nothing to do with the Levy murder. The details of Guandique's similar crimes were public knowledge so it's quite possible that the similar attacks afforded someone the opportunity to make Levi's murder look like the work of the person who was assaulting women.

The police barely investigated Guandique at the time. He was finally given a lie detector test regarding Chandra Levy's disappearance and he passed it. Gary Condit refused to take a polygraph test and lied throughout the investigation.

The police believed then that Gary Condit was involved in Chandra Levy's disappearance and that Ingmar Guandique wasn't involved. The case was botched and it'll be difficult to get a conviction after all this time so they need a confession from Guandique to truly close it. If they get one, they owe Gary Condit a huge apology. If they don't, then Gary Condit isn't exonerated.

Personally, I hope they convict Ingmar Guandique for Chandra Levy's murder whether he did it or not. Guandique is a violent predator and he's dangerous. He's going to get out of prison and he will attack more women when they release him. His murder conviction would save many people a great deal of pain. Gary Condit may or may not be a danger to tramps with no morals. His mistress might have something to worry about if she threatens him but he's not a danger to the general public. I don't think Chandra Levy was much of a loss and I don't care whether justice is technically served or not. I'd rather see a violent predator off the streets than another politician go to a country club facility so I hope Ingmar Guandique rots in prison even if Gary Condit was behind Levy's murder.

The accuser was given a polygraph test about his claim that Guandique confessed to him. He failed every question and your local news should have mentioned that fact when they ran the story.

I did not read the story in detail. I was just trying to answer to previous post based on what they are reporting in the DC area.

yes, after 9-11 the case was mothballed.

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I can't blame Chandra's parents for pointing fingers at Gary Condit. After all he was committing adultry and when you do things like that you must take all the heat that accompanies it. Had he just been single and dating her, he probably would have been questioned and then no longer considered a suspect. My heart does go out to his wife and children for having a jack___ for a husband and father.

Shame on him for cheating on his wife and if the destruction of him in his political carreer came from all of this well then so be it. So many of our political folks think they are above the law. I always consider how a candidate conducts themselves in there personal life before they get my vote.

And Chandra was committing fornication. Neither of them were angels. That doesn't mean you deserve to be murdered or accused of it without any evidence. If lying about an affair were evidence of murder, there'd be a whole lot more people in jail for it.

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Cougarskies I hope you never serve on a jury. Your opinions while you are certainly allowed to voice them scare me to death.

There is so much that is disturbing in this statement, that I do not know where to begin.
I agree with icansavedaily that I hope you are never called for any jury panel, nor would I hope you ever be in the situation where you are depending on one that has the same views as you show in this paragraph.
I will also withhold my opinion concerning how much value you place on a human life.

I'm sorry you're so easily frightened; it must be difficult for you. I've been called to serve as a juror on six different occasions and was chosen each time. I have no doubt that I will be called to serve again so it appears that you'll just have to live in fear. LOL.

Well, Junior Member Cantering1, I don't expect to ever be accused of a violent crime (or any other crime) but if so, I would be delighted to depend on someone who shares my views. As a matter of fact, my defense attorney would strive to populate the jury with people who share my views. I would want my past behavior to be taken into consideration because it would only help me.

As for how much value I place on some human lives, I place no value whatsoever on those who violently prey on others. I consider Ingmar Guandique's life to be a complete waste of good oxygen and think the world would be better off without him. I am quite serious when I say that I place more value on a stray cat's life than I do on the life of a violent sexual predator like Guandique.

I'm afraid that you'll have to shiver along with Icansavedaily because I'm sure to be chosen to serve on a jury again and it will certainly contain other jurors who feel exactly the same way I do.

So be afraid, be very afraid. ROFL.

I too followed this case when it all happened. I have doubts that the guy they are now claiming killed her is the one. I think it's just an attempt to keep him in jail as he is set to be released in 2011 (or 2012?) I believe. Don't get me wrong, this creep should NEVER be released for the crimes he has done. However, if he 'takes the fall' for this murder and he didn't do it, then we are letting another killer walk free. This will be a closed case. Whether he did it or not, I highly doubt he is going to 'admit' to it, I mean he's due to be released in a few years. He'd be crazy to admit it even if he did do it, ya know? I believe I heard on the news this morning that he is claiming he had nothing to do with the murder, didn't even know who she was, etc., until the police first questioned him about Chandra in 2001 (or whenever they questioned him originally).

There is/has been an interesting 'theory' (I know there are many out there) that I have seen several times, here's the link:

http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/LEVY.html

I didn't say it was 'my theory', just an interesting one among many. Makes you go, hmmm... Does kinda add up though when you think about her being let go of the Bureau of Prisons abruptly and then the sudden break-up with Condit. The police did come out numerous times and say he wasn't cooperative at all, which made everyone think there was much more to the story than just an affair (even after his wife & kids knew all about the affair). I know there are many conspiracy websites out there with different theories, but I thought you guys might like to read this one. I never thought that she was meeting Condit at Rock Creek Park that day though--I thought it was strange that she had to look this remote place up on the computer and all (especially since she was known to run/jog in the park--remember the place she supposedly went to was closed down). It was like she was 'secretly' meeting someone, so maybe the conspiracy theorists are on to something. It is weird that the Chandra Levy case and 9-11 was so long ago though.

There are numerous sources that contend Chandra Levy was an Israeli MOSSAD agent and passed US secrets to Israel. There are reports that she visited the MOSSAD headquarters when she went to Israel. There were also reports that the US was fully aware of Levy's espionage activities. A spy that's been outed is dangerous to both sides. Once a spy's cover has been blown, both sides will want them dead. If Levy was an exposed MOSSAD agent, her usefulness had ended and her death was just a question of when.

Even discounting every conspiracy theory, two things are absolutely certain:

Gary Condit wasn't the first married man with which Chandra Levy conducted an affair. There were several others and each of those men had access to highly sensitive US political data.

Chandra Levy was an intern at the Federal Bureau of Prisons but had top security clearance. To say that status is uncommon for an intern is putting it mildly.

The Chandra Levy Case - Questions?

It's also a fact that the police wanted the culprit to be Ingmar Guandique because it would provide a quick, easy resolution to the case. The police officers involved in the case were actually disappointed when he was originally eliminated as a suspect.

There were reports that Gary Condit wanted to end their affair but Chandra Levy refused to let go. Gary was a senior member on the House Intelligence Committee and no one knows how much information Levy learned though him. If Levy had become difficult, she was a threat to Condit's seat and marriage. If Levy was a MOSSAD agent, she was such a major threat that losing his seat or marriage would be the least of Condit's problems.

The police suspected that Gary Condit was responsible for Levy's murder but were unable to get enough evidence to charge him. Now, one guy has gone through the cold case files and the police have suddenly decided that Ingmar Guandique must be the murderer after all. It's been almost eight years since the murder and without DNA evidence or a confession, the DA knows he'll never get a conviction.

t appears that a lot of people had a strong motive for killing Chandra Levy. It would be ironic if she was murdered in a random act of violence. Stranger things have happened but the evidence will have to be compelling for a jury to buy it.

They are now reporting that they do have DNA evidence. Rock Creek Park is a huge park. Many areas are hilly and some areas are deep ravines so it would be easy to not find a body or take a while to find someone who was hurt. At the time they found her body, my daughter was driving to school by herself. Part of her drive was in Rock Creek Park (not the area that she was found) so we got my daughter a cell phone. I guess we will have to see how this case comes out.

Oh geez, y'all have brought up enough interesting things for me to research before I form an opinion. Just what I need - another current event to delve deeply into ;-) For someone like me with a news jones, this is not a good thing ;-)
But I guess, in the long run, it is a good thing to keep asking questions.
Why, oh why did I ever open up this thread? The answer is, natch, cuz I was bored at some point ;-)
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For the sake of the victim's family I certainly hope the killer is punished for her murder.
As far as the conspiracy theories go there have been many of those and certainly they add a great deal of drama and scandal to the story, but I'm really skeptical about all that stuff. I haven't seen any of those things published by a reputable news source. But anything is possible, she could have been a spy, or involved in satanic rituals with a bunch of congressmen, or uncovered 9/11 secrets or...the list goes on and on. I doubt her family believes all that stuff, again I just hope they are able to get closure in the future and know that her killer was found and punished.

Thank you for proving that longevity, and a title that reflects such, does not automatically make a person smart or sensible. In other words, I do not have to give you respect simply because you have been here longer.

And your feeble attempt to discredit my words, simply because of my status on the boards, made me laugh. Bullies on the play ground will also resort to throwing dirt in faces, as well. Will you be doing that next?

Your words will earn my respect. Thus far, I am convinced you have a few screws loose that for most people, are of dire necessity.

Well, Junior Member Cantering1, it's obvious from your posts that you came out the gate looking to settle some old scores and created a new user name to do it. You will never have anyone's respect on this board because you don't even have the guts to post under your regular user name. Everyone here knows that you aren't really a 'Junior Member' at all so (as another has mentioned), your status is "Troll".

I do want to thank you for the entertainment, though. I almost didn't open the 'Octodoc' thread and what a mistake that would have been. I so enjoyed reading your sympathetic posts regarding the woman who used a sperm donor to produce 14 children that she knew would have to be raised on taxpayer dollars. I hope it wasn't wrong of me to laugh out loud when you told everyone that they are wrong to harbor "such hatred" and subscribe to the "ridiculous" notion that an unemployed person shouldn't bear 14 children that they are unable to care for or support.

I especially enjoyed your instructions to this board on how to be a good American. Perhaps you should learn a bit more about America before you attempt to educate us.

While I enjoyed reading your thoughts on the subject, you should be told that America was not founded on the presumption that it's your inalienable right to produce 14 children that the taxpayers will have to support. America's founding fathers never intended that other people should be automatically responsible for meeting someone's personal debts and obligations. My ancestors worked hard to take care of their own families and expected others to do the same. Since you feel that the people paying the bills have no right to exercise their freedom of speech to express an opinion on how their money is being wasted, I can only assume that either your ancestors would be extremely disappointed in you or you're a chip off the old block.

Please provide me with more entertainment and give this board detailed instructions on how we can be better Americans. I'm sure we all want to take "a really good inner look at ourselves" and alter our views so can meet your lofty standards. Oh wait, you don't have any standards. You empathize with mentally ill deadbeats so I guess that's not such a good idea.

Can you teach us how to be less hateful and ridiculous then? Oh wait, you haven't learned that yourself so that'll be a toughie, too.

Well, can you at least tell me what words I should use to "earn your respect"? I want to be the best little American I can be and earning your respect is my most fervent hope and deepest desire. Dare I hope that my dream could be realized?

Of course, I will need to insist that, should that glorious day ever arrive, the respect you bestow upon me must extend to all your user names and not just your brand new one!

ROFL!

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It is nice when someone else proves your case for you without much effort on one's own part.

I think that her family, particularly her Mom and Dad, would disagree with you. Clearly she was no saint sleeping with a married man, but she didn't deserve to be murdered! ~Lisa