Hi Everyone...

This happened Friday am. This is 5 minutes from my house. so very sad...I do'nt know how much the news tells, cause I've watched so many different clips...

The boyfriends son killed her THEN went to school She had an 8 yr old girl & a 4 yr old girl (the 4 yr old found her)...She was 8 months pregnant...Our cousin works at the jail & they are going to charge the dad too (as far as we've heard). This is crazy.

11-Year-Old Boy Charged In Murder Of Pregnant Woman - News Story - WPXI Pittsburgh

Myth: A gun in the home increases personal safety.

Fact: A gun in the home make homicide 2.7 times more likely.

WoW! Just signed on to get my AOL mail...it made their homepage!
Boy Charged in Pregnant Woman's Death

This gun was the little boys. He kept it in his room. Mistakes #1 & #2.

Different story but another with children and guns...

Toddler may have shot, killed 9-year-old brother in Florence - Phoenix Arizona news, breaking news, local news, weather radar, traffic from ABC15 News | ABC15.com

If the news reports are true that the boy was allowed to keep the weapon and ammo in his room, I would like to know WHAT WAS THE FATHER THINKING? Such a horrible thing for pregnant Mom and baby.

The toddler clearly did not know what he was doing....
The 11 year old did. Im not sure about the laws in PA but there was a 12 year old charged as an adult and sentenced as one...

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This boy (11yrold) was telling his friends he didn't like her (&Also one of her family members I think)...He told his friends at school he was going to do it.

They are trying to get him bail right now (They may have already this am)...I said to DH...If that was your kid...Would you get him out on bail??? He said no way. Our jail (Law. County Jail) says they can't house him...To send him to juv. place...I think he should never be allowed to be free again--I dont think they enforce death penalty til he is 18?

Here is todays Pittsburgh news updated about 45min ago...

Warden: Jail Cannot Offer 11-Year-Old Inmate Proper Care - News Story - WPXI Pittsburgh

They are charging his as an adult...GOOD.

Wow! There is something seriously defective with an 11yr old that can shoot and kill a pregnant woman no matter how much he didn't like her.

I'm glad they are charging him as an adult. . .there was definitiely intent there. BUT I hope the dad doesn't get off scott free with this either. It seems like he had some kind of responsiblitly in all of this.

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Did I hear correctly that the rifle he used was actually his gun? (the boy)
If true, I just can't believe that.

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Children should never be able to handle guns, I don't care if they grew up from a hunting family... The Father is to blame....

There is NO excuse. The father deserves to be charged.

I was in law enforcement for years, and this happens over and over and over and over....

The kid must be mental???
11 years old? a murderer?
I am not a shrink, I can not go there.

There are many child murders, some you dont even hear about, Google them.

You never give a gun to a child. not even a play gun or water gun, if so IT IS YOUR FAULT

This is so so so sad. I hope he gets the help he needs and I hope the father gets life.

These crimes should never never happen.

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wow, kids think they can get away with anything these days. i grew up with guns standing in the corner and i knew I better not lay a finger on them if i wanted to be able to sit down. I never did touch them unless my grandfather or uncle was taking me to go practice. otherwise no way was i messing them.

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The first 3 pages of our local paper was all about this...They aren't charging the dad with anything by the looks of it...I think it said he was given the gun for xmas. He just won a turkey shoot with it on 2/14...This is just disgusting...Her eis a link to my local paper...

ncnewsonline.com - Homepage

...And on top of this...I just found out, a guy I went to school with (we are 28), his younger sister (25-ish)...Died of a heart attack over the weekend...How is that even possible? We heard thru a phone call about 1 hour ago...

Wow. I've never heard any of the LEOs I know express this kind of opinion. The majority of the LEOs I have talked to preach gun safety, knowledge and respect.

Also, this is not completely the father's fault. This child knew what he wanted to do and how to do it. It was just a matter of time before he found a way to do.

"never give a gun to a child...not even a play gun or water gun, if so, IT IS YOUR FAULT"

Why don we, as a society, hold people accountable for their actions or behaviours? In this instance, I'm seeing people blame the father. Hello? This boy was and is capable of knowing right from wrong.

Society is doing it's self a HUGE disservice when it does not hold people accountable for their actions, behaviours and decisions.
I don't know if this child should be tried as an adult. But to simply write this off as "oh, that poor kid. I hope he gets some help" is so very wrong IMHO.

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I agree with you completely. I have read numerous posts on other boards and they too want to blame everyone but the person responsible. The most common reaction seems to be to blame the father for the murder his son committed.

By doing that, these people are sending their own children the message that they aren't responsible for their actions. While I wouldn't give an 11 year old a youth shotgun, the weapon this killer used shouldn't be the issue or the focus. I'm not advocating giving children guns but it's a fact that generations of young boys had youth shotguns and they didn't kill people with them. This boy did and he should be the one held accountable.

The boy deliberately killed a woman that he hated and calmly went off to school as if nothing had happened. When questioned, he sent the police on a five hour, wild goose chase for a mythical black truck. He knows the difference between right and wrong and he chose to murder and evade detection. He's a killer and he would have used a knife or poison if a gun wasn't handy. He is the one to blame, not his parents, not his weapon, not society, him. The father shouldn't be charged in this murder; he didn't kill anyone. I think that the father made several parenting mistakes along the line but the blame for the killing lies with the boy who chose to kill. It's his responsibility.

It's a shame that so many people now don't understand the concept of personal responsibility. They're ruining the society that our children and grandchildren will inherit..

I will have to read more facts about this case before I can even ascertain any kind of opinion.

Either way, it is a sad case.

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