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Old 03-13-2009, 12:59 PM
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Angry One-sided courts?

So I just tried to fight a stop sign ticket and lost. I was accused of rolling a stop sign, which I know 100% I did not do it. However, because I am not a cop, the judge believed the cop. He hardly listened to my story. He said that the testimony of the cop outweighs me. How fair is that? I would have no problem paying for it before, not to mention wasting 3 days of my time, if I thought for 1 second that I did what the cop said I did. How fair is it for a judge to believe a cop just beacause they are a cop? Sorry, had to vent!!!
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:33 PM
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Get this one year I got a speeding ticket and I was NOT speeding. The cop said he was there to protect the kids going to school that day. It did not occur to me until weeks later I received the ticket on Christmas Eve 12/24. There were NO kids going to school that day.

Once I was in an accident the cop saw me motion with my hand and say "get in the back" to my dog. He said I hit the dog and I DID NOT.

Police officers are human they make mistakes.

However these days most cities, counties and states depend on the revenue from these tickets. That's why they have ticket campaigns. Catching real criminals is costly and dangerous and most money fined by criminals never gets recovered. On the other hand law abiding citizens like us will pay the tickets because we have more to lose by not doing so.

It's a sad state of affairs when law abiding citizens get screwed by lying or mistaken police officers and criminals run free in the streets yelling wooo hooo as they break your car windows, steal from your mailbox, grab senior citizens' purses out of shopping carts, and other assorted fun money making drug getting activities knowing they will not spend one moment in jail. There is no doubt in my mind that if you or I did not pay a stack of tickets we would be in jail for failure to comply.
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:36 PM
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can you appeal ?
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:36 PM
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This happened to DH and I over 35 years ago. (Before we were married) We were riding in his car going down a hill, going the speed limit and the light switched to yellow as we got to it. Since we were going downhill, there was no way to stop and it was still yellow when we went thru it. A police officer was sitting at a convenience store at the corner and pulled us over for running a red light.

I knew and my DH knew he didn't run a red light. We decided to go to court and protest the ticket. I was called as a witness. So in our case, it was two against one and the police STILL won that one. The court found my DH guilty.

To this day, I KNOW he did not run a red light.

Must have been a slow day in law enforcement......
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:51 PM
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I could appeal but what good would that do me. They would just agree with the first judge and I would be out more money! It's so frustrating.
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:39 PM
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I don't know about where you live but here each cop has to make certain number of what they refer to as "contacts" on each shift. That means they have to have personal conversation with that number of drivers. If it means they have to create those opportunities then that's what they do. The last time I was stopped the cop said I ran the stop light which I DID NOT. While he had my drivers license back in his car running a check on it I was on my cell phone. By the time his shift was over the ticket he gave me was null and void. He was known to be on that same corner at the begining of his shift every night setting up his stops to get his nightly quota over early in his shift so he could lay back the rest of the night. As it turned out, the ticket he issued to me was clocked before his shift was even supposed to begin. I know all this because a family member works for the city and has access to the inside dirt. It's not at all uncommon for the cops to be as crooked as a snakes back.
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