I don't want to post in the other played out threads about this topic.

But it seems that we come to the same issues so frequently here, that we all know where we each stand.

With that said, I am still all for bringing up the issues.

I am also all for anybody's right to start a thread on whatever issue she wants.

However, if a poster claims to want all of the opinions, but then asks those in opposition to her to state simply that "it is not for me" then how about putting out a poll instead?

In a poll, you can give us scripted answers and only a few choices. Then you don't have to read anything you disagree with.

For example, if a person wanted to start a poll on

"Gay Marriage - are you for it or against it?"

A person could give the following options:

I'm all for it!!

I'm all for it and I can't believe there's another side to this.

I'm all for it and there shouldn't be another side to this, and anyone who suggests there should be is spewing hate.

I'm against it, it's not for me.

If the op doesn't want to conduct a poll, and states that she wants all opinions, then please be fair enough to avoid dictating to those who are on the other side of the coin what we're allowed to say in response.

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How about this: if the topic of a thread doesn't interest you, simply ignore it.

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What a concept......works for me.

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I think that the thread that you are speaking of would have been the perfect place for a poll and started to post that last night but then just decided to ignore the topic instead.

As much as I'd like to make rules and suggestions and change things to my liking , I've come to the conclusion that it isn't possible. Gentle nudges don't work, hitting people over the head with a rock doesn't work (...now about that flame thrower...LOL).....we really can only control our own response to things. So, I guess I'm with the ignore it community. I've made my attempts and I need to move on to more productive and rewarding aspects of my life. What would help the forum "ignore" feature to be more effective would be if people didn't quote quite so much.

Another way that someone very wise helped me to look at it....is that I would never, ever poke and prod and chide a child (or an adult) with a condition that impacted their abilities to behave appropriately and/or process feedback....that's just not right and may be applicable here.

cj/

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IGNORE IT PERFECT. Seriously it is perfect. There are many many threads I never enter into, because they are of no interest to me. Devinmom I sincerely appreciate your idea about a poll. However if I had known it would have turned into another Catherine/peace/dislike me post, I never ever would have started.But it proved to me again the post when way off topic and about 15-20 percent perhaps less was about the original post, the rest was all about me once again and the same people. This is fact, I can already tell when I post something who will come into and start trouble its a fact and was proven was again last nite. Thanks for the vent. Peace. Catherine

Cathrine, whether it was your intention or not, you seemed to be inviting controversy in your other post.

You began it with a winking symbol. To me, that indicates that you were either trying to be lighthearted or that you were trying to be ornery in a playful way.

But the words of the post - lots of things like, "I can't believe there are still people...." weren't playfully ornery or lighthearted. They were intended, IMHO, as a stinging slap to those people who 'still' believe in a way you personally think is unenlightened. And then, of course, at the end the post went back to the "Peace" mantra.

Admittedly, last night I had had more coffee than usual, couldn't sleep, and had uninterrupted time on my hands. I wasn't in a tizzy about your premise about homosexual marriage, and since I don't know you and you aren't part of my 'real life', I certainly wasn't emotionally overcome with some need for you to like me or to see my point of view or anything of the sort.

I certainly think you have the right to post whatever you want to post. It's a free country and the owners of this message board choose to moderate very lightly. That is THEIR right, they pay the bills, and the result is that any of us can state just about whatever opinion we want to express.

When we choose to put ourselves 'out there' and share those opinions, I think we have to accept - and expect - that there will be reactions. Some of those will be reactions to our opinions... and sometimes, I think we have to expect that the reactions will be to US.

The only way we can clue in to what someone's intentions may or may not be are the words they choose to use and the 'tone' they choose to take when they state them. If I start a post with a smiley face, proceed to say that I think people who like the colors red, yellow, green, and pink have no taste and that I can't believe anyone likes any color but black and that it is a sad day that so many out there are so blind because those other colors are ugly... and then end my post with, "I LOVE ALL OF YOU VERY MUCH!"...

Well, I'd have to expect people would react to ME as much or more than they would react to my thoughts about colors.

You are welcome to perceive that anyone who questioned your motives was 'starting trouble', but from my POV, we were just shining a flashlight on what we perceived to be an attempt to start a bru-ha-ha and then go sit innocently in the corner, face aghast as one or two posters would ultimately rise to your defense. You seemed to be hoping for some drama, and a few of us were, in our own way, calling you on the 'drama invitation'. Personally, I don't think you were all that interested in hearing views about the topic at hand.

If you were, as the OP of this thread said... a poll would have sufficed.

"From my POV"

Gosh, those words make ALL the difference in what you perceive as happening, don't they?

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Some things are admittedly perspective, and some things are provably factual. The speed limit in front of my house is 25MPH. That's not MY POV. It's the law's POV.

This situation - divining intent - is admittedly subjective. Catherine, either on purpose or inadvertantly, left a string of things that could be construed as 'clues' to her intent. I was not the only person who interpreted those 'clues' in the way that I did, so I don't think it's totally out of bounds to have drawn that conclusion.

But of course... it's my point of view and not necessarily what was, unquestionably, on her heart. That's something only Catherine herself can know.

Thanks so much for clarifying the difference between factual and POV. Of course, the difference was exactly my point.

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thanks truble so much for your input, it means alot to me. You forward and to the point and are not phony, peace to you , thanks again. Catherine

And just because you (the general you) hold a particular POV doesn't make it correct....it just makes it yours.


I don't give a rip how a person "signs" their posts--but if the content of the post says one thing (eff you, who don't agree), but is signed "PEACE" or "LOVE" or "UNITY", well then that just smacks of hypocrit.

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Do you have this saved so you can just copy / paste since you are always trying to flatter your "friends" ?

dl

case in point, of all the posts to post a comment into , here comes Deddlastt right into mine, and you tell me I am the one who is a hyprocrit with my usage of peace. The topic of the post had nothing to do with being frustrating for others to read. It all has to do with me Catherine. peace. trouble maker. a member who uses bad grammar once again. And proof is in the pudding because here came Deddlastt, I already had Wowitsdark, Marilynk, Opal, Kellyjef and Cjs216 all whom have picked at my posts from day one and I am the one who is causing trouble, Funny that these same ladies are always involved on the negative side when it comes to my posts or threads. Sorry op but its a well known fact. Peace. Catherine

I can't believe I'm getting in the middle of this again, since I tried to help you long ago to which you didn't take the advice. But why not just post a reply back stating you have NOTHING to offer to my post or you are NOT worth my time in replying to you.Or you could just not reply at all since what they are saying has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand. Since you KEEP REPLYING back to them the fight keeps going on and on and on and ON !. Since the post YOU started you have not came back to reply to any questions or answers or replies to the topic other than fight ! I personally don't get it myself. and Yes ILL It does make a lot of people wondering if your only reason for doing this is to stir the pot and cause trouble. Why would we, they think any different ?.
I told you along time ago opinions are like a$$holes , everyone has one and THEY ALL STINK !.

Count me in with wowitsdark and crew, I was feeling a bit left out. In my defense, I am a bit busy with a 2yo and not much of a muti-tasker, so mostly I just read here.

Wowitsdark, you have the patience of a saint. I appreciate how you have tried and tried to calmly get your extremely valid point across. To no avail unfortunately. I wouldn't even know where to start....

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I simply asked a question, which you failed to answer. I coudl say the same, you have the same 3 people come to your side time after time after time.

I did not call you a hypocrit, once again you owe me an apology, and I know it won't come.

This is a public message board, I can post where I wish, despite you continually imploring people to "kindly" and "please" not do whatever it is you don't want them doing with posting subject matter. Yet you kneep repeating and repeating and repeating. Others besides the ones you are keeping score on have also tried very nicely and very diplomatically to offer you insight and advice and you continually ignore them also.

Once again, stop all of your handwringing, muttering, and stumbling in circles.. I haven't posted in a SINGLE thread of yours in what - weeks, I think.

The only element of truth is your third sentence:

It all has to do with me Catherine.

YOU and you alone continually make everything about yourself. Get over yourself, read the posts objectively and realize that some people offer insight which you refuse to even consider.

dl

I have to say, I think it's interesting that the discussion seems to be over. Either she gets it and can't admit it, or, "ignore" is finally working.

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For now....

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hhmm... so I guess I'll change the topic to ME!! I don't want a whole thread bragging, and I mentioned it in the bathing suit post, and it kind of got ignored. But, I've lost TWENTY-FIVE pounds!! From a size 16 to a 12.....of course, there are more visible wrinkles on my face, but it's a small price. Ok not so small, but what do you do??? lol

small pats on the back are welcome....;0)

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Mellisa YOU GO GIRL !! congrats on the weight lost. I'm so jealous . care to lose 25 for me too ? lol.

*Pat* *Pat* *Pat*

"Weight" to go! That is something to brag about!

So basically...everyone does not agree with you or calls you out over your constant stirring of the pot is phony???? It is comments and attitudes like this that just confirm what most people here have been trying to tell you ....and you refuse to see. You are going to continue to stir the pot with flippant comments like this. You continually just ask for trouble. You cannot (or will not..or are not able) to have a civil discussion about things in which people disagree with you(controversial subjects). Yet you still bring them up??????? Why do you do this to yourself ? In a case like this, most people would conclude that you are in fact a troll. You may have signed up long ago,but that does not even mean that you aren't someone who has another username on this very board and likes to use ILL to cause controversy....just to get their jollies. It has happened here before. You have to see that many people could very easily draw this conclusion with your history. You do nothing to help yourself. You just keep digging deeper and deeper.

Catherine...so far...no one has posted a negative comment in your "flowers" post. Do you think it might be because it is not a controversial topic and you didn't say something like...."I like red flowers...and in this day and age....I can't believe that anyone would not like red flowers" ??? It is all in the topic choice and the words that you choose to express yourself. I have very stong opinions on lots of things...most of us do...but I don't go around on pulbic Coupon Boards trying to shove those down other peoples throats. If I were to start a stongly worded post about something that I am very passionate about, I would expect others to disagree with me and i'd get those flaming arrows. If I stated my opinion in a tactful way, not by basically saying other ideas are crazy ( even if I thought they were), then maybe we could have a civil discussion and people wouldn't jump all over mine every time I opened my mouth. You just gotta think about how you come across in many of your posts....over and over again.

I've got to admit that whenever I see your posts now....I just have to open them to see what kind of a mess you have started and sit back and watch the show. You have to realize by now that there are many people here that just sit silently watching and waiting. I really hope that you take a few minutes and think about this and think about how to word your posts. That would go a long way in people not thinking that you are just a troll or a troublemaker.

Good Job!!

I gained 15 lbs



It was from quitting smoking though.

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I'd say that was a good reason to gain 15lbs! Good for you for quitting!!!!!

Congrats of the quitting smoking, I have been thinking about doing this also.
Hope to be right there with you soon.

Congrats! How did you do it???? And how long did it take?

Pat, pat, pat because I think you deserve it!

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thanks truble so much for your input, it means alot to me. You forward and to the point and are not phony, peace to you , thanks again. Catherine

Do you have this saved so you can just copy / paste since you are always trying to flatter your "friends" ?

dl

OK, that made me LOL

. I have never seen people with control issues as much as I see in this single thread alone. I won't even go to the other ones I have read.

Serious, serious mental control issues. Who cares what or how this poor woman posts? It's just a freakin message board and a coupon shopping board at that.lmao


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