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Old 03-17-2009, 07:29 AM
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What do you think of Adam Lambert on Idol?

I wonder how many teenage girls would vote for him if they saw the pictures on his Tribe page. How about if he performed in drag? I saw a post about him on another forum and google turned up this link of him:

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They told him to tone down his makeup when he performed last week. I don't think AI wants a winner could be performing in drag in the future!
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Old 03-17-2009, 08:43 AM
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I can't see the pics because I'm firewalled at work, but it IS a singing competition.....right? The boy can SING and I think that's all that matters.

So what if he dressed up in drag for a performance....who cares if he dresses in drag on a daily basis...lol

Didn't it used to be that back in the time of Shakespeare that women were not allowed to perform on the stage so that men played all the roles?? Wouldn't that mean that they dressed in DRAG?? Oh my!! LOL
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I support Adam as a singer and as a person to freely be whatever he is....but the Shakespeare allusion has no basis today. Yea...young boys dressed as women back then...so what does that have to do with the stage today?
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I support Adam as a singer and as a person to freely be whatever he is....but the Shakespeare allusion has no basis today. Yea...young boys dressed as women back then...so what does that have to do with the stage today?
My point was, it's nothing new, and no big deal.

The guy can definitely sing. Anyone who can carry off the Wicked score in a Broadway touring company has my vote.

I mean, if we voted on these folks based on their looks, would Clay Aiken have made it as "geeky" looking as he was?? Or Ruben Studdard as an extremely obese man?? I think we need to get past the "look" and listen to the music.
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I'm confused. In the link provided above, it looks like he's wearing makeup at times, but I didn't see anything close to drag. For someone in the entertainment industry, these photos look pretty normal to me.
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I like him and i think he has an exceptional voice. Don't care if he dresses in drag. His singing has nothing to do with him being in drag elsewhere.
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Well, I can't stand him. He has a great voice but he's just too, I don't know, flamboyant (sp) for me. I know they have a lot of other contestants with experience and careers already but I don't like that. So I guess the combo doesn't appeal to me. I want the show to stay more to the finding an unknown and giving them a chance.
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In some of the photos, he does look a bit "Boy George-ish". Was he told to tone it down for the show? He looks better toned down, anyway. He really doesn't strike me as being gay, but in some of his pics.....could be.
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Well, I can't stand him. He has a great voice but he's just too, I don't know, flamboyant (sp) for me. I know they have a lot of other contestants with experience and careers already but I don't like that. So I guess the combo doesn't appeal to me. I want the show to stay more to the finding an unknown and giving them a chance.
Did YOU know Adam Lambert prior to AI? I didn't

Actually, I knew more about the kid from Arkansas than I did Adam Lambert

My point is: they are all "unknown" until they get some NATIONAL face time on TV and radio.

I love Adam! Yes, he's flamboyant, he's a performer! Look at Freddie Mercury, Elton John, Paul Stanley and KISS, Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Garth Brooks, Bette Midler, Cher, Madonna--they were all flamboyant, over the top entertainers.
It's one thing to be flamboyant and put on a good show--but when you can actually sing, and have talent? Man! That's a fabu combination.

Little David Archuleta (from last season) had a phenomenal voice and talent--but no stage presence. He is not an entertainer, and barely a performer. He needed a little flamboyancy (sp?)
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Did YOU know Adam Lambert prior to AI? I didn't

Actually, I knew more about the kid from Arkansas than I did Adam Lambert

My point is: they are all "unknown" until they get some NATIONAL face time on TV and radio.

I love Adam! Yes, he's flamboyant, he's a performer! Look at Freddie Mercury, Elton John, Paul Stanley and KISS, Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Garth Brooks, Bette Midler, Cher, Madonna--they were all flamboyant, over the top entertainers.
It's one thing to be flamboyant and put on a good show--but when you can actually sing, and have talent? Man! That's a fabu combination.

Little David Archuleta (from last season) had a phenomenal voice and talent--but no stage presence. He is not an entertainer, and barely a performer. He needed a little flamboyancy (sp?)
Ditto!! agree with every word you said. Adam makes the show entertaining. I am looking forward to seeing him tonight.
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I think he's incredible- could care less what he looks like. Often, I close my eyes and listen, I love his voice!
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[quote=marilynk;3177749]Did YOU know Adam Lambert prior to AI? I didn't

Of course I didn't know him. But that doesn't mean he isn't already heavily involved in the industry and that's the part about AI that I don't care for. I don't think it's fair to have people that are in the industry in this competition against people who have never had a real chance. But that's just my opinion.
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I would have to say that most people who do well on Idol have already started working on their career, with varying degrees of success at the local level. Generally, they don't just get some guy that sings in the shower as his only professional experience.
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Did YOU know Adam Lambert prior to AI? I didn't

Of course I didn't know him. But that doesn't mean he isn't already heavily involved in the industry and that's the part about AI that I don't care for. I don't think it's fair to have people that are in the industry in this competition against people who have never had a real chance. But that's just my opinion.
A lot of people are in the industry who never get an audience. They are backup singers, stand ins, etc. The AI people picked the ones they wanted for the show and I'm sure a good many are new to the business. They have the same chance to endear themselves to the public as do the others.

I record the shows and only watch what interests me and I have no idea of the various backgrounds. I skip that part. I listen to the singing if I like the song and the delivery and then the judging. So usually I have no idea of their age, their background or what they do now for a living.

Adam has a look in his eyes after he sings and when the audience is applauding that really catches my attention. It's not fear, and it's not amazement, but there is a wariness and a look like he is not sure what is happening at that moment. I like him better than almost all the others and I'm old enough to be his grandmother. Whether he wins or not, this has been his platform to stardom and I think he will make a lot out of his chance, makeup or not. Rock on Adam!
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I would have to say that most people who do well on Idol have already started working on their career, with varying degrees of success at the local level. Generally, they don't just get some guy that sings in the shower as his only professional experience.
lol yea really i agree with you. Who would you want to listen to Adam or that alex kid that say the blues song? lol Gag!!
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I wonder how many teenage girls would vote for him if they saw the pictures on his Tribe page. How about if he performed in drag? I saw a post about him on another forum and google turned up this link of him:

ADAM LAMBÉRT's Photo Album - tribe.net

They told him to tone down his makeup when he performed last week. I don't think AI wants a winner could be performing in drag in the future!
I think if the girls like him, and I see nothing to dislike at this point, they will really vote for him like crazy. I saw nothing in those pics that I would call drag. Odd, and out there, yes, but not drag. And even if you manage to find some drag pictures of him, I'm not sure what difference it makes. He can sing. He has his own style. He's different than many of the other "marshmallow" singers on the show. He's fun to watch and nice to listen to. And possibly most important, you all know who he is.
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I wonder how many teenage girls would vote for him if they saw the pictures on his Tribe page. How about if he performed in drag? I saw a post about him on another forum and google turned up this link of him:

ADAM LAMBÉRT's Photo Album - tribe.net

They told him to tone down his makeup when he performed last week. I don't think AI wants a winner could be performing in drag in the future!
OH good grief! I couldn't look at the pictures from work, but having seen the pictures....
Doesn't anyone remember the Glam bands of the early 80s? Did you ever see Duran Duran? Ziggy Stardust? Motley Crue? Poison? They wore more makeup than most of their girl fans in the day! And there was absolutely no issue or dilemna about their overuse of makeup and Aquanet hairspray--and the spandex!!

This kid is different, he's unique--and he's extremely talented.
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As someone involved in a show choir all my life, he fits the part of being in a cast. I love him and he is an amazing singer.
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Ok now I have to watch AI one of these days to see who you guys are talking about! I haven't seen it this season...other than a few minutes of 'bloopers' during the first week.
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Oh -my -gosh-that was the creepiest song I have ever heard on Amer Idol. I expected demons to come floating around him when he was singing! lol Good voice but it creeped me out!!!
And glam bands of the 80's??? Please, do we really want that back? lol
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Oh -my -gosh-that was the creepiest song I have ever heard on Amer Idol. I expected demons to come floating around him when he was singing! lol Good voice but it creeped me out!!!
And glam bands of the 80's??? Please, do we really want that back? lol
He could have done some really cool stuff with that song, but I think he went too far this time. The only ones who would " get that" don't watch a show like AI?! You have a certain group who watches and you need to play to them to a certain extent and they just all watched that and thought WTH?

I still really like him though, but he has to stay out of the weird zone if he wants to win.
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Well, I can't stand him. He has a great voice but he's just too, I don't know, flamboyant (sp) for me.
Why does this not surprise me....
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Stay out of the weird zone-I like that!!!! I bet Randy T. was a bit freaked out.
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Why does this not surprise me....
Ah c'mon Toonces it's just my opinion and I bet I'm not the only one. Would you have felt the need to comment if I had said someone was too country for me? Or how about too jazzy? I doubt it.
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Ah c'mon Toonces it's just my opinion and I bet I'm not the only one. Would you have felt the need to comment if I had said someone was too country for me? Or how about too jazzy? I doubt it.
I know its just your opinion. I'm just SO not surprised by it.

Anything...anyone...any anything that is vaguely gay or lesbian or transgender-ish or should I say "flamboyant".......you don't like.
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I loved Adam's performance!
I realize though that it was probably a little to edgy, and "different" for most or for the generic white bread folks...
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I know its just your opinion. I'm just SO not surprised by it.

Anything...anyone...any anything that is vaguely gay or lesbian or transgender-ish or should I say "flamboyant".......you don't like.
I have never cared for the look that Adam has. The black nail polish, etc... Doesn't have anything to do with sexual orientation Toonces. Too bad you are so quick to judge! And Marilyn I guess I'm proud to be generic white bread! I always did like white bread.
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I have never cared for the look that Adam has. The black nail polish, etc... Doesn't have anything to do with sexual orientation Toonces. Too bad you are so quick to judge! And Marilyn I guess I'm proud to be generic white bread! I always did like white bread.
Yeah....too bad *I'm* too quick to judge.
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Yeah....too bad *I'm* too quick to judge.
FYI It's not judgmental to not like a certain look or style of music. I know what you are hinting at. And you didn't answer-would I get the comments if I said I didn't like country music? Or jazz?
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FYI It's not judgmental to not like a certain look or style of music. I know what you are hinting at. And you didn't answer-would I get the comments if I said I didn't like country music? Or jazz?
It was rhetorical.
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I didn't see the whole thing, but my dh loved it. I saw the clip at the end of the show and thought it was cool and would love to see it. I think he's kinda sexy. Not my taste in music necessarily, but cool.

Kathy, no point in arguing. I knew what you meant. It's definately personal taste. You are being baited...
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I didn't see the whole thing, but my dh loved it. I saw the clip at the end of the show and thought it was cool and would love to see it. I think he's kinda sexy. Not my taste in music necessarily, but cool.

Kathy, no point in arguing. I knew what you meant. It's definately personal taste. You are being baited...
Yes, I figured I was being baited but thanks for the reminder. My 18 yr old just came home and we viewed it on youtube. I said "don't you think it's creepy" and he said "no, it's just emo". So I guess Adam is emo and I don't care for the emo look. He does have an awesome voice.
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Oh -my -gosh-that was the creepiest song I have ever heard on Amer Idol. I expected demons to come floating around him when he was singing! lol Good voice but it creeped me out!!!
And glam bands of the 80's??? Please, do we really want that back? lol
It had an Indian ( from India) cast to it. I can't imagine why you would expect "demons".....maybe because the culture is so DIFFERENT?
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I didn't care for his performance last night, but i think this was a tough week for him being country and all. I think he will do better next week. His look doesn't bother me and i grew up with the 80 band look. Everyone dresses different and this just so happens to be his style. Look at kiss when they wore all the makeup at their performances and motley crew wore more makeup then women did. Those bands still rock today!!
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I have never cared for the look that Adam has. The black nail polish, etc... Doesn't have anything to do with sexual orientation Toonces. Too bad you are so quick to judge! And Marilyn I guess I'm proud to be generic white bread! I always did like white bread.

Imagine living with a person who dresses like that, my 21 yr old son wears the black nail polish, the dark brooding clothes and eyebrow liner occasionally lipstick. People do judge him thinking he is gay, he's not although he claims he at one time was bi-sexual. I don't care one way or the other so long as he doesn't get hurt by whomever.

If they can sing let them sing who cares if they are gay, bi-sexual, martian, purple etc. They are human they are doing something they love and they just express themselves a bit differently than others do. I haven't watched AI this year well much of it because of my work schedule, but I have it all DVR'd to catch up on after Tax Season Ends which seems to be never ending right now LOL
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Imagine living with a person who dresses like that, my 21 yr old son wears the black nail polish, the dark brooding clothes and eyebrow liner occasionally lipstick. People do judge him thinking he is gay, he's not although he claims he at one time was bi-sexual. I don't care one way or the other so long as he doesn't get hurt by whomever.

If they can sing let them sing who cares if they are gay, bi-sexual, martian, purple etc. They are human they are doing something they love and they just express themselves a bit differently than others do. I haven't watched AI this year well much of it because of my work schedule, but I have it all DVR'd to catch up on after Tax Season Ends which seems to be never ending right now LOL

You are right on the mark! I wish people would spend more time and energy on things that need it, than minding other people business and trashing people they don't know....just because they are different than them.
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I have never cared for the look that Adam has. The black nail polish, etc... Doesn't have anything to do with sexual orientation Toonces. Too bad you are so quick to judge! And Marilyn I guess I'm proud to be generic white bread! I always did like white bread.
I loved the song and performance. Very James Bond.

About the white bread...maybe it's time to switch to wheat. Much healthier, in more ways than one.


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You are right on the mark! I wish people would spend more time and energy on things that need it, than minding other people business and trashing people they don't know....just because they are different than them.
Who's trashing him? Just because you don't like a performers style and song choices doesn't mean he/she is being trashed. Geeeeezzzzzzz.
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It had an Indian ( from India) cast to it. I can't imagine why you would expect "demons".....maybe because the culture is so DIFFERENT?
No. Because they had all that fire in the background and the song certainly had an eery tone to it. It certainly wouldn't put a person in a happy, jolly mood!
I fell into a burning ring of fire----I went down, down, down and the flames went higher-And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire-The ring of fire. I know it's not a song about hell but the words would match!
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In some of the photos, he does look a bit "Boy George-ish". Was he told to tone it down for the show? He looks better toned down, anyway. He really doesn't strike me as being gay, but in some of his pics.....could be.
The producers did tell Adam to tone down the makeup. There are other pics of him making out with guys on the internet too. I think the show should be for amateurs and any who have been paid for professional performances should not be allowed to be contestants. Also, they need to limit the number of votes per phone number. I read on another site where one girl voted 6000 times for Adam. Numbers for all the time zones were posted on the site. That deters me from voting for any of the contestants. Of course, AT&T makes a lot of money with unlimited votes. Hope the ones who text hundreds or thousands of times have unlimited texting. LOL!
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No. Because they had all that fire in the background and the song certainly had an eery tone to it. It certainly wouldn't put a person in a happy, jolly mood!
I fell into a burning ring of fire----I went down, down, down and the flames went higher-And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire-The ring of fire. I know it's not a song about hell but the words would match!

Those are the same words Johnny Cash sang...demons then ??
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No. Because they had all that fire in the background and the song certainly had an eery tone to it. It certainly wouldn't put a person in a happy, jolly mood!
I fell into a burning ring of fire----I went down, down, down and the flames went higher-And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire-The ring of fire. I know it's not a song about hell but the words would match!
yeah, and when Johnny Cash sang it--it was such an UPLIFTING song

I bet you hear subliminal messages if you listen to Black Sabbath or Motorhead backward too. It's there, you just got to be listening!

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The producers did tell Adam to tone down the makeup. There are other pics of him making out with guys on the internet too. I think the show should be for amateurs and any who have been paid for professional performances should not be allowed to be contestants.
So, they church music director shouldn't be allowed? The kid that sang in a local band shouldn't be allowed?

And who gives a flying rip if any of the contestants are gay, bi-sexual, hetero, eunichs or celibate?? Has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to perform or entertain!
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Who's trashing him? Just because you don't like a performers style and song choices doesn't mean he/she is being trashed. Geeeeezzzzzzz.
People are. Geeeeeezzzzzzz
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People are. Geeeeeezzzzzzz
There's a difference between trashing someone and not like his/her music style, etc... Geeeezzzzzz.
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There's a difference between trashing someone and not like his/her music style, etc... Geeeezzzzzz.
I know that....Geeeezzzzzz I said I am against people trashing people that are different.
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yeah, and when Johnny Cash sang it--it was such an UPLIFTING song

I bet you hear subliminal messages if you listen to Black Sabbath or Motorhead backward too. It's there, you just got to be listening!

Geeez!

So, they church music director shouldn't be allowed? The kid that sang in a local band shouldn't be allowed?

And who gives a flying rip if any of the contestants are gay, bi-sexual, hetero, eunichs or celibate?? Has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to perform or entertain!
Oh my goodness Marilyn. THe topic of this board was what do you think of Adam Lambert? Are opinons that you agree with the only ones allowed?? Johnny Cash's version is sooooo not the same presentation as Adams. I don't have to like his style and I have a right to voice my opinion. Too bad all of you people sticking up for Adam think it's fine to criticize my/others opinions. Can you say hypocrit????? Also, who gives a flying rip? Some of us do! For example, I would prefer not to see a drag queen as a contestant on Idol. A church music director is not the same as the resume of Adam Lambert. Use some common sense here Marilyn!
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Kara said the whole thing was a bit strange and confusing but that she kind of enjoyed it, while Paula likened it to Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir." "What the hell was that?" Simon wondered, calling the performance "absolute indulgent rubbish ... really, really horrific."

Marilyn-I guess you need to write Kara and Simon and tell them your opinions.
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:28 PM
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Oh my goodness Marilyn. THe topic of this board was what do you think of Adam Lambert? Are opinons that you agree with the only ones allowed?? Johnny Cash's version is sooooo not the same presentation as Adams. I don't have to like his style and I have a right to voice my opinion. Too bad all of you people sticking up for Adam think it's fine to criticize my/others opinions. Can you say hypocrit????? Also, who gives a flying rip? Some of us do! For example, I would prefer not to see a drag queen as a contestant on Idol. A church music director is not the same as the resume of Adam Lambert. Use some common sense here Marilyn!
You didn't qualify your statement about paid performers--you just said only amateurs, not paid professionals (or just not paid performers). Danny Gokey (the church music director) is extremely talented, but he is paid for his talent and expertise in music--thus he isn't an amateur.

Adam is not a drag queen. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah--You didn't say he was; however he's the whole topic of the thread. The implication is there. If you don't see that, then you really are deaf, dumb and blind. I'm not going to play the semantic games with you. One does not have to be overtly racist or homophobic, to actually qualify for the tag of "racist" or "homophobe"
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I loved Adam's performance. I think he's one of the most talented in the group.
I love his style, his uniqueness and he's so comfortable doing what he does.

I grew up on Johnny Cash music and I actually loved Adam's version. It's shows his ability to take a song and definitely make it his own.

I'm hoping he wins. He will get a contract even if he doesn't, IMO.
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:39 PM
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You didn't qualify your statement about paid performers--you just said only amateurs, not paid professionals (or just not paid performers). Danny Gokey (the church music director) is extremely talented, but he is paid for his talent and expertise in music--thus he isn't an amateur.

Adam is not a drag queen. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah--You didn't say he was; however he's the whole topic of the thread. The implication is there. If you don't see that, then you really are deaf, dumb and blind. I'm not going to play the semantic games with you. One does not have to be overtly racist or homophobic, to actually qualify for the tag of "racist" or "homophobe"
Judge away Marilyn! That certainly wouldn't make you a hypocrit at all. I think most people would understand what I meant. I guess I need to spell things out for you. So if you don't like Adams style, look, etc... that makes that person a homophobe huh? What if someone doesn't like a rapper on there? Does that automatically make them a racist? And what about someone who can't stand country music? What does that make them? If I saw Adam walking down the street I wouldn't like that look. By the way Marilyn, not everyone wearing that look is GAY. Aren't you drawing a lot of conclusions here???? Do YOU think everyone you looks like that is gay? Hmmmmmmm.
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Old 03-19-2009, 02:56 PM
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Judge away Marilyn! That certainly wouldn't make you a hypocrit at all. I think most people would understand what I meant. I guess I need to spell things out for you. So if you don't like Adams style, look, etc... that makes that person a homophobe huh? What if someone doesn't like a rapper on there? Does that automatically make them a racist? And what about someone who can't stand country music? What does that make them? If I saw Adam walking down the street I wouldn't like that look. By the way Marilyn, not everyone wearing that look is GAY. Aren't you drawing a lot of conclusions here???? Do YOU think everyone you looks like that is gay? Hmmmmmmm.
like I said, I'm not going argue with you. Whatever you say......

And you're right about one thing, I believe most people who have been on this board and read your posts knew EXACTLY what you meant--no doubt there.
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I'm looking at this post and wondering why this Adam Lambert has 3 pages of discussion. (Aside from the bickering), this is exactly why this guy will go far in the competition. He is different, and has struck a nerve with some.
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this is exactly why this guy will go far in the competition. He is different, and has struck a nerve with some.
Ding, ding, ding--we have a winner.
Charlie, tell the lovely crittles about her prize!
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You are exactly right. It is the same on the FORT board..he has far more pages than the supposed front runner ,Dan
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