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I (along with most of the regular posters) have noticed that there is great inequity in the enforcing of board rules. Some poster are penalized for infractions while others are not. Lately, there have been more vulgarities posted on the board and like always, somebody has to push the envelope to the limit. This time, that poster is Cantering1. In the thread titled 'Suggestion', she has called other posters a vulgar name and insulted them. While I was not one of the posters she cursed at, I'm curious as to whether new board rules are in effect. Her vulgar post remains on this board, giving the impression that using this type of language to insult other posters is now acceptable posting behavior at My Coupons. It was my understanding that posting direct insults, curse words, and vulgar language on these board would not be tolerated. Those rules have been in effect for many years. Has that policy changed? Please clarify your board rules so that we're all clear on the level of behavior you expect from your members. Please either confirm or deny whether foul language, insults, and cursing are now allowed at The Cafe. Quote:
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I found this thread I started once asking for some of the KTS bashers to find quotes where I have called anyone a name. I stated examples of some of the names I've been called. From a McCain thread: truble-she is one sick puppy, Sick, sick, sick. usnamom-Get help. --low class, bigoted, not very nice---posts crazy ****---refers to me as belonging to the KKK, "you are not a good Catholic". McCain has serious character flaws so do you.... Jeanief-calls me disgusting, pathetic, racist, bigoted, ignorant and demented. Also I have "bigoted, racist deluded responses". And in the Toby Keith thread-racist, homophobe, low brow (Neanderthal) mentality, sad, sick, pathetic and a cockroach. All for citing actual statisics about the crime/race problem that is developing where I live, which by the way, has been identified as a problem by the community leaders and the schools who are trying to figure out ways to handle the problem. I assume I will get a bunch of posters saying my panties are in a knot, etc... for even posting this but they are all examples of name callilng that is supposed to be against the rules. Catholic voting posts: usnamom: I wish that those sanctimonious so called "Christians" and I have seen you posting the last couple of days with your anti-Christ like crap would have a huge healthy cup of shut the F- up. This was from Greg on a thread once: ....that is the beauty of freedom, which is why we no longer strive to simply delete anything and everything that could be perceived as being nasty or ban so called troublemakers. We allow you all to decide for yourselves who YOU believe to be a troublemaker and we don't pass judgment from on high. One person's troublemaker is another person's source of amusement. One exception is the abuse of our volunteer mods, since by the nature of their role they can't simply ignore the posts of any member and therefore may end up being subjected to unwarranted abusive attacks. Those types of posts will be viewed through a much finer lens. I guess it's a free for all out there unless you attack a mod! ![]() I would love it if Greg would say specifically if name calling is considered ok and if it is, does it qualify as "another person's source of amusement"? I really can't see any time swearing at people on here should be allowed whether it's directed towards a mod or not. If it's ok maybe Greg can tell me where I should go to get my "cup of shut the F- up"! I hope we aren't told to use the ignore button!!! That kind of punishes the victim and let's the nasty people get away with whatever they want. |
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I'll have to agree with what cantering1 said! Spot on. I've noticed it everywhere there are open forums with general discussions. People just are getting carried away with bashing people that don't agree with what they think. So I'm sure someone will come back and reply to me "then why don't you just go away then". Why? Because I have just as much right to be here is someone that joined in 1995 that's why! |
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| stunning isn't it? ![]() I admit that at one time in my life, I took the boards way to seriously! But man, to keep a running list of who's offended you? I am always amazed when someone dredges up something like that. I couldn't tell you who said something nasty to me yesterday, much less weeks or months ago (I'm speaking about on message boards). I do however remember the people who have contacted me via PM to offer words of advice or comfort or support. Why not choose to remember and appreciate the good? Why choose to harbor anger, resentment and bitterness?
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The original post was edited by Chelmo. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. As far as cursing on this site. It is not allowed. That being said, because the boards are, for the most part, unmonitored there will be posters who insult and criticise members. I personally do not come to The Cafe everyday and do not read all the posts, so we depend on you members to bring issue to our attention that you believe are questionable. Issues are handled on a case-by-case basis. If a poster is found to have crossed-the-line, the post will be edited and the member will receive a warning. Repeat offences can result in a member being banned from posting on MyCoupons. If you see something that you feel is out-of-line, please click the red triangle at the top of that post and/or PM any Mod. |
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In Kathy's defense, and please correct me if i am wrong, Kathy, she did a cut and paste from an old post of hers. I don't think she keeps a running list. She and others were dickering on the politics board, and all of those things were said within the same day or two... and, I believe, within the context of just 2-3 posts. It was in the midst of all of those statements that she felt were in violation that she made a list of all of them and put them into one post to ask the mods about where the lines were regarding the rules. I think she just remembered that post, looked it up, and did a cut and paste this morning... I don't think she has a file called "Enemies and their Statements About Me" on her C: drive. lol. |
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At least there was a response this time. I have asked, and so have others and received no response. mc is run like a grade school......sometimes the playground needs a monitor. Sometimes the monitor happens to look the other way when it's specific people. Sometimes the monitor is looking at specific people. I know. I received a pm from another member quoting a moderator. Obviously they can't all be fair/neutral all the time. I understand a public board with volunteer (or seems some are paid) moderators can't enforce everything. However, as I have stated before, it could be much more objective rather than subjective. dl |
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Wow! It must be tiring for you, Kathy, to be on that cross all of the time. None of those things you say were said about you were posted out of the blue. Every single one had some provocation.
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Those posts are how people get to know someone. I was not the only one who thought your postings made you sound racist and homophobic. You did nothing to change anyones views of you instead you dug your heels in tighter and there it was. I was there, I read what you wrote and though I am sorry if it hurt your feelings, that is how you came across. Don't make it sound like people were just being mean to you for no particular reason. If I was to reread those posts (which anyone can by doing a simple search) I would say the same things again. I might not say them in the same manner but the sentiment would be the same. You are not a victim here. There is no victim here. You gave as good as you got.
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I know I have expressed this before, but I think it bears repeating. As one of the mods, I can tell you that it is an upaid/volunteer position. I decided to jump on board as a mod because I wanted to help out, feeling that I wanted to give back to a community that gave me so much. But I am limited in my time to be here. I work full time and like many of you, have a family to tend to along w/having my own physical limitations. Because of that, I offered to watch over the Arts and Crafts board since I felt it was a board that wasn't as busy and one I could feel more secure about watching. Since then, a number of mods have left, leaving a few of us to try and watch more. I rarely get to read the posts on this board due to time constraints, but I do stop by every few days just to at least view the post counts and see if any need to be closed. If there is anything inappropriate going on, I would really appreciate a PM as my siggie line requests. Several of you have done that and I hope that I have been able to address your needs quickly and with some satisfaction. I really do want to help out, but we need to act as a team. Remember what it says in the notice section at the top of the page: Quote:
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Unfortunately, one way to police our own was via the reputation system....but because someone had trouble with exercising self-control and common sense in using it, it went away. I have not been able to figure out what moderators think is OK and what is not. Clearly, name calling is totally OK most of the time. Quite frankly, I don't think a general "b*tches" is at all as bad as some of the direct namecalling and nastiness. cj/
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Seems to me, and I have been a member here for waaaayyyy to long, but it appears that the name calling is ok as long as it is directed at certain posters. But if one of those posters calls someone something back, then it becomes a problem.I know mods have posted that they treat every member the same but if you sit back and watch the threads, some members can bash. harass or call some members names but as soon as that member retailates, the thread is locked. No matter what the mods say. its all about who you are and whos butt you kiss. Just like in the real world. lol
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I agree, littlejo. I don't mind rules at all - I just can't stand it when they aren't applied uniformly. cj/
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She just called me juvenile....better write that down....I might need to prove something someday......
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Actually, that's pretty funny as my dd is at the state basketball Special Olympics as we speak. Comparing certain posters to Special Olympians would be an insult to the Special Olympians. There is a big difference between learned behavior and being born with a disability. And I have to say that some of the above mentioned incidents are way out of context. If you say the posts surrounding those.......
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wowitsdark, I know I said I would stay away, yet even without posting. It seems cjs216 still and will not leave me alone. You mention about no one making fun at the special olympians, yet Cjs216 is still upset because someone abused the rep system that would be me, she did not mention my name. However she clearly knows its me. Also I went back to my post about the gay.lesbian thread in which cjs216, makes puts up 2 really nasty pictures referring to. One that first I am a troll and in it, she rights, don't feed the trolls, let them starve and die like this. Then she posts a picture of illegial immigrants and it reads ours is country of illegial immigrants. First all I am not a troll for the 100 time, been here for 1o years one username only. Second I am not a illegial immigrant born and raised a native New Yorker. These we laughed at by some posters, however she made the posts and you still tell me I am the trouble maker. She is telling me to starve and die, is this what this friendly board has come too. Then she makes fun of illegial immigrants, which I am and if I was its not funny. Btw I do have her on ignore, however someone sent me a pm and I viewed it and put her back on ignore. All this truly must stop. I do not condone cursing, but when will it all end seriously. I have her on ignore and to say those things and its okay...This will be the only comments I will make as I am sticking to my word, however I cannot believe she would post such rude truly mean hurtful pictures and finally she rights under the troll comment, to make herself look ok, do not take this literally anyone, then cjs216 why say it in the first place.... Catherine
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Lucy, I remember the rep incident, but not well, and couldn't have recalled exactly who cjs was referring to if my life depended on it. My comment about the Special Olympics has to do with a wisecrack Obama made on the Leno show last night. He said he is a very bad bowler and said that watching him bowl is like watching the Special Olympics which was, IMHO, in much poorer taste than most of what I see here.
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Good Lord, not everything is about you, ILL. You are not as important and relevant as you think you are. I posted about the dress code at my son's school in the school uniform thread...and somehow that was all about you too. Truth told, it had nothing whatsoever to do with you but was relevant to the thread it was posted in....which is more than I can say for your drivel here. Would you just leave me alone....for pete's sake. I haven't even logged on here for 4 days...and the second I do, you're all over me like a fly on dog doo. Oh, and how cute that you get a PM about what I post. I am so flattered that I am a topic of your private discussions and PMs. Wow! ETA: I posted a picture showing a demonstrator with a placard that said we are a country of immigrants....not illegal immigrants. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG with being an immigrant. (Several people have tried ot make this point with ILL) Immigrants are what mad/ke this country what it is today. That was the point of that picture posting. It really was not that hard to follow. You need to take your blinders off and stop looking for things where they are not.
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Did not get a chance to put you in ignore, because while typing my daughter Caitlin came down to ask me a question about a party tonite she wants to go and saw your last post, Cjs216 your a out and out liar, for anyone go to the thread I started about gay and lesbian marriage, right on page 3 and posts number 47 and post 57, you made those comments about me and not about school uniforms. What in the word cjs216 would this comments have any relation to do with school uniforms. Look like someone just got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. You said you cannot stand me, yet your the one who will not leave me along, even after I stopped in the thread about gay/lesbian marriage you still continued to bother me and poke fun. Even still why would a troll have to do with school uniforms??????? Liar . Catherine
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# 2 - woe is me: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- wowitsdark, I know I said I would stay away, yet even without posting. It seems cjs216 still and will not leave me alone. You mention about no one making fun at the special olympians, yet Cjs216 is still upset because someone abused the rep system that would be me, she did not mention my name. However she clearly knows its me. Also I went back to my post about the gay.lesbian thread in which cjs216, makes puts up 2 really nasty pictures referring to. One that first I am a troll and in it, she rights, don't feed the trolls, let them starve and die like this. Then she posts a picture of illegial immigrants and it reads ours is country of illegial immigrants. First all I am not a troll for the 100 time, been here for 1o years one username only. Second I am not a illegial immigrant born and raised a native New Yorker. These we laughed at by some posters, however she made the posts and you still tell me I am the trouble maker. She is telling me to starve and die, is this what this friendly board has come too. Then she makes fun of illegial immigrants, which I am and if I was its not funny. Btw I do have her on ignore, however someone sent me a pm and I viewed it and put her back on ignore. All this truly must stop. I do not condone cursing, but when will it all end seriously. I have her on ignore and to say those things and its okay...This will be the only comments I will make as I am sticking to my word, however I cannot believe she would post such rude truly mean hurtful pictures and finally she rights under the troll comment, to make herself look ok, do not take this literally anyone, then cjs216 why say it in the first place.... Catherine dl |
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# 3 woe is me: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Did not get a chance to put you in ignore, because while typing my daughter Caitlin came down to ask me a question about a party tonite she wants to go and saw your last post, Cjs216 your a out and out liar, for anyone go to the thread I started about gay and lesbian marriage, right on page 3 and posts number 47 and post 57, you made those comments about me and not about school uniforms. What in the word cjs216 would this comments have any relation to do with school uniforms. Look like someone just got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. You said you cannot stand me, yet your the one who will not leave me along, even after I stopped in the thread about gay/lesbian marriage you still continued to bother me and poke fun. Even still why would a troll have to do with school uniforms??????? Liar . Catherine dl |
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I couldn't tell you who called who any names, and frankly: I don't have time, energy or inclination to go look it up. If something that someone has said either to you or about you on an internet message board so adversely effects your psyche, you might just be too involved in an internet message board community. You might want take a step back. Good grief--does anyone on here know you personally? Do you care that a bunch of strangers think you are racist, or a homophobe or a beotch? Do you care if a bunch of strangers disagree with you and think you are complete friggin' idiot? I certainly don't. I usually get as good as I get---but when I go to bed at night, I sleep well. And I certainly don't think about what someone on an internet message board has said "negative" about me.... And I most assuredly do not assume that every negative post is about me (even when or if they are! LOL)
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ILL, I'm going to have to come to CJ's defense as I just went back and reread the uniform thread as I thought every thing was going good in it and thought I had missed something. In that thread. ILL You took offense to what CJ said about long hair and you REPLIED to her post. thus there was no way she was "Pointing " you out or your son. CJ didn't even know per the thread your son had long hair till you posted UNDER hers commenting on it. you also went on to restate what she felt about sloppy dress= sloppy minds or something to this effect. But either way ILL you are the one that stated the debate with her comment and are now trying to point the finger at her she attacked you on that thread.I thought and I usually don't like to get in the middle of these fights, But I do however feel this is unfair to say she attacked you and your son when in fact, YOU are the one that posted the 1st negatived comment and it was to wards her not the other way around. Don't mean to pick but a right is a right and a wrong is a wrong and in this case you are wrong about that uniform thread. Came back to say, I feel there's a lot and I do mean A LOT of going back and forth between some members here. It she said I said, then I said they said stuff seems to childish to me. I think the fingers point in BOTH directions and no one is any less at fault than their accusers. or at least this is how it seems to me. |
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A long time ago people were complaining about your atrocious writing skills, and a few people said not to judge that English might not be your first language. Those people were sticking up for you! Why are you so offended that people might think you're an immigrant? I know I would much rather people think English was my second language than think that I'm just to lazy or stupid to write coherently!
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Sunsetbeach I am not talking about the comments in the post made about the school uniforms please please read this, cjs216 made those comments about me in the thread I started about gay.lesbian marriage. Did you not read what I wrote. I wrote that I would leave the thread alone, but afterwards, she still went back and made those rude comments about me being a troll and that trolls should be left to starve and die and then she made comments about immigrants which are directed towards me. Why because I was called a immigrant because of the many times people poked fun at my bad usage of grammar. So do not tell me she was not talking about me. Again these comments were made in the post I made about gay. lesbian marriage, not about school uniforms. Also in that thread I never said she made the comment about sloppy dress, sloppy minds, i did not agree with statement. If you believe just because a person does not dress with a suit and tie has a sloppy mind that is ignorant. Finally Ambrianna you asked why people as myself choose to come into a post when nothing is being spoke about them, again your wrong, cjs216 mentioned the rep system and that someoone abused it, she was referring to me, she did not mention my name. But everyone here knows it is me. So tell me again who is starting trouble. Again at this point as Kathytheshopper said she knows who are the true trouble makers here and I am not one. As you can tell once again cjs216 still is posting and then came deddlastt, so again I am the trouble maker, not... This is all total nonsense.Whether you say I feel sorry for myself, the truth is I am picked on by the same people and the same people totally thrive on doing so. Again it will not stop me from being here and final note again it is the same people who come into my threads. There are some people who never ever do. And that is 100 percent true. Let the trolls starve and die really really classy cjs216. Catherine
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As far as the lesbian marriage deal went, I didn't posted in that thread or either I don't recall me replying in that thread . I don't know what I would had said about it. ILL I will admit you do get a lot of bashing at times from members here, do I believe all of it's fair, no not always. But on the same hand ILL you still have not learn to just leave it alone. when you reply back to people you know already are "looking" for you to reply back that keeps the battle going. but thats not to say you are at total fault as it does take 2 to fight. Now as far as the uniform thread goes. I posted what I did because you said they are always commenting on your post or threads to just attack you ( maybe not in those complete words but same meaning ) I wanted to point out that you attacked CJ because of her comments and you personally took offense to what she said about long hair and sloppy dressing. When a person wants to cry foul they must have clean hands in order to do so. But when you attack and they attack it's BOTH thats in the wrong. You can't say they or in this case CJ is always attacking you as you attacked her in that thread meaning you had the dirty hands 1st. I told you before and I'll tell you again. Opinions are like a$$ holes everyone has 1 and they all stink. If you truly are NOT looking for a fight with these members when they post things against you whether in a post or your threads Just go on and ONLY reply to people's statements that have meaning to you. You can't fight a battle alone it always takes 2. Just giving you some friendly advice do as you will with it. I also will have to agree with Ambrianna. I didnt recall what thread she was meaning till you posted it was you. |
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#4 woe is me: Sunsetbeach I am not talking about the comments in the post made about the school uniforms please please read this, cjs216 made those comments about me in the thread I started about gay.lesbian marriage. Did you not read what I wrote. I wrote that I would leave the thread alone, but afterwards, she still went back and made those rude comments about me being a troll and that trolls should be left to starve and die and then she made comments about immigrants which are directed towards me. Why because I was called a immigrant because of the many times people poked fun at my bad usage of grammar. So do not tell me she was not talking about me. Again these comments were made in the post I made about gay. lesbian marriage, not about school uniforms. Also in that thread I never said she made the comment about sloppy dress, sloppy minds, i did not agree with statement. If you believe just because a person does not dress with a suit and tie has a sloppy mind that is ignorant. Finally Ambrianna you asked why people as myself choose to come into a post when nothing is being spoke about them, again your wrong, cjs216 mentioned the rep system and that someoone abused it, she was referring to me, she did not mention my name. But everyone here knows it is me. So tell me again who is starting trouble. Again at this point as Kathytheshopper said she knows who are the true trouble makers here and I am not one. As you can tell once again cjs216 still is posting and then came deddlastt, so again I am the trouble maker, not... This is all total nonsense.Whether you say I feel sorry for myself, the truth is I am picked on by the same people and the same people totally thrive on doing so. Again it will not stop me from being here and final note again it is the same people who come into my threads. There are some people who never ever do. And that is 100 percent true. Let the trolls starve and die really really classy cjs216. Catherine dl |
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That comment sucked. He must feel like such a loser now. He has to be glad that this gaffe happened AFTER the election... Obama's lesson learned (hopefully): stick to the script...
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Thanks for playing along girls. As a prize, I will share a joke with you. Disclaimer: No offense is intended towards Brazilians.The Dept Of Defense briefed the president this morning and told Obama that two Brazilian soldiers were killed in Iraq . To everyone's surprise, all the color drained from Obama's face. Then he collapsed onto his desk, head in his hands, visibly shaken, almost in tears. Finally, he composed himself and asked, 'Just how many is a brazilian?' This is especially enlightening since he obviously has no understanding of billion or trillion either. |
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Against my better judgment, I will add that the "don't feed the troll, let it die" picture was simply a picture posting to someone else mentioning trolls. It was a generic response on the topic of trolls.....trolls are motivated (fed) by the controversy, so it is best to ignore (not feed) them and they will go away (die). It wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, and especially not ILL, because I personally don't believe that ILL is a troll. I don't think she behaves as she does to get a rise out of people; she just is what she is. So....that was not aimed at you, ILL....please, please, please stop taking everything I say personally. (The uniform thread is yet ANOTHER example of that). Thank you for explaining it, sunsetbeach. Similarly, the "America is immigrants" post was not a slam but I've already explained that. Finally, this is NOT your thread, ILL.....this is a thread started by someone else to which I posted a response.....and once again, YOU jumped on me and started with the namecalling (Liar) - which I have seldom, if ever, participated in. I did not attack you, you attacked me - exactly as you did in the uniform thread. cj/
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