Ok this I hope doesn't turn into a debate.I got a call today from a friend asking me if I knew the people 2 doors down from me. I said nope never met them, only seen the man from afar walking his dogs. He told me he's a sex offender and was register under our local sheriff's office. I was SHOCK to hear this. I have never been given a notice that this man was a sex offender. I thought the police department had to give notice to neighbors that had children / was I wrong
The man was charged in 2002 in a different state than where we live. He was charged with Aggravated Felonious Sexual Assault. Not knowing what that meant I looked it up. here's what it means.
Section 632-A:2 Aggravated Felonious Sexual Assault.
This not a case where he had a girlfriend and he was just over the age of 18, this man in 2002 was 30 years old the girl was 12 years old. But I was wondering why I nor the family that lives next door to the man was never notified of this. anyone know if we should of been ?.

There is one next door to me. He was chgd in another state and it's "off the books" now. Not sure what the deal is with him. He has a live in girlfriend and they bought the house together and have been here since a month or two after I got my house about 7 years ago. I don't know what the laws are concerning this.

I would be calling the sheriff's dept to find out why you weren't notified. They should be required to notify neighbors within the vicinity. I'm not sure if it's actual law, but they should.

How do I do this ? Do I call the department or ?. I'm really concern over this because in the 5 houses that are here there's 8 children. The family right next door to him has a 3 year old little girl. I have girls that are 12 and 6 . I have never met the man nor his mom (?). he has only been living there I was told for 6 months.The mom has lived there for 2 years. tia

They are not required to notify you. They do make the information available on web site in most states. Here in FL, you can sign up for notification when an offender moves within xx miles of any address you enter, but it is up to you to request it. I work at the elem school, so I requested info on my neighborhood and the school neighborhood as well.

There is a man living a few blocks from here that is a registered sexual predator. The people right next door have 8 kids. Nobody told them, either. I suggested she go to the FDLE page and do a search on our area. She was very grateful.

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It also depends on what he was convicted of. He could have been an 18 yr old with a 16 yr old girlfriend where the parents got upset about the relationship and reported him... to me that's a big difference than someone that is out there luring children ...ya know?

Just get all the facts before you get upset.


Edited to add: Oops I missed the part where you posted what he was convicted of.....sorry!

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Just curious, how did you find out what this particular case entailed?

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MK,
I don't know about where the OP lives, but here you can see all details of an offenders convictions...etc

FDLE Florida Sexual Offenders and Predators

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Nope, I don't think they have to let you know. I know they don't here because I look at our sex registry often (once a week or so). One day, I get a notice saying a sex offender moved in near me (it's from familywatchdog.com which I am registered on to be notified). Guy lives 4 doors down from me. I had met/talked with him and his wife. Anyway, he is busted for Internet Luring of a Child. It's listed on the local sex offender website. Our street is "kid central" and he is right next to lots of kids. I walked down the street and told all the moms I knew (and one I hadn't met yet) and none knew about it. In fact, I told them 3 days before the wife came by to let them know (talk about awkward!).

I would suggest going to familywatchdog.com and registering to find out when offenders move in/out of your area. My brother took in a new roommate and within 1 week I got a notice saying an offender moved in. I checked it out and yep...my brothers new roommate. Needless to say he lied and said he had not been committed on any crimes so my brother kicked him out the same day. I got the notice 3 days later he had moved and relocated 1/2 mile away.

It's SCARY to see how many offenders live within a 10 mile radius of us and we live in a nice little town

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Hi Marilynk.
The link to the sheriff's department has the details of the crime.
He was charged with

Aggravated Felonious Sexual Assault the site list it was

Offenses
9999SA- Sexual Assault
Details 12 Year Old Female

Comments
Aggravated Felonious Sexual Assault/2002 NEW HAMPSHIRE CONVICTION

Thanks for all the help e1. I'm going to do some more checking to see if we should have been notified.Again thanks everyone.

No, nobody has to notify you. The sexual offender registry is a public record and anyone can look up the information anytime. I look up information for my area every single month to see if it has changed. We have 3 sexual offenders that live in our town.

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gotcha! Our Sheriff's Dept list is not as detailed.
I don't know about all states, but some classify offenders based on the violence of the crime, the probability that the offender will become a repeat offender. It's usually either a tier system or a class system. And how an offender is classified sometimes will determine whether the sheriff notifies residents.

It's frightening to realize that for every ONE listed/known offender--there are probably 3 or 4 who aren't known (that's just my guess). In my opinion--the known are less scary than the unknown.

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Oh I agree . It is very scary to know that your next door neighbor is a sex offender unknown to you and unlisted. I'm thankful my den asst called me today to tell me this with out him doing this I probably would have never known. There's only 5 houses here and we all own our home. So it's not a place where people move in or out and to be honest I would have never checked to see. Guess I'm a little freaked out over this since I have girls and my next door neighbor has a 3 yr. I just never would have thought for 1 sec we had a sexual offender living here.. If it was a case that he was nearing 18 with a 15 yo girlfriend I probably wouldn't have thought much of that as I normally don't But per the site that detailed what he was charged with he penetrated the girl ( sickening ! ).scary stuff if you ask me. I did notice on the site I can sign up to "track" him and also be notified of anyone moving thats listed. I didn't know this. Maybe this is why I didn't get a notice, but I wonder about the people that don't have Internet and unless they call ( assuming they can get this information via police departments ) if they would ever know. If we don't get notice I really believe the law needs to be changed. IMHO.

We have a sex offender on our street. I found him on meganslaw.com for CA. At first they didn't give a name or address. You could see about where they lived on a street. Now you get their name, address, and picture. It says what they did but doesn't give a lot of info. I do know that his charge was rape. I don't know the age or sex of the victim/s. I have told my kids to stay away from his house. It is scary when they are so close to you. I always wonder how many I don't know about.

sunsetbeach, it is very scary to say the least. I know from working in our public schools we are told of the person, we get to see their photos and what crimes occured for these sick individuals. Again I would be very uneasy to know that such a person was living next door to me. Peace. Catherine

ITA!!! We had one moved in a few doors down. The Sheriff's office came around passing out flyers with his name, picture, etc. I really think that depends not only on your state, but, your particular city. For instance, in our town, they are required to stay at least 500 feet from playgrounds and areas where children "gather" in the very next town over, they have to be at least 1500 feet.

I am just very vigilent about knowing where my kids are and have taught them what to do, and what to look for.

OP, I am not sure I'm following your post, but, did you say one of your neighbors was informed of his past by HIM?? I have also heard of that being done. The offender is required to tell their neighbors themselves.

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Meganslaw.com is a site that charges for reports. CA has a free site. It is:
meganslaw.ca.gov

So what are you going to do? I might sound mean but if there was someone here for Felonious Sexual Offense I would check the legality of passing out bulletins to people in the neighborhood. What if someone doesn't know and their child or teen is lured?

This scares me and makes me sick. I know they are human and I guess they have to live in society although I question that and wonder why they can't live together somewhere but why in communities with innocent children?

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Last fall our next door neighbor was arrested for luring a young boy over the internet. He is about 24 and moved in with his parents (our next door neighbors) last summer. He drove the church bus where he and his family went to church. The parents seemed really nice and I was shocked when the headlines on the local paper said that he had been arrested.

He started contacting one of the boys that went to his church. Luckily the boy (12 years old) thought it was strange, so he told his parents. The parents immediately went to the police and the police started monitoring and I think somewhat telling the boy what to do. The man was contacting him through MySpace or something similar. Anyway, the man set it up that he would meet the boy somewhere but instead of the boy, the police were there.

The night he was arrested, we weren't home (one of the kids had a soccer game). The paper said that the police came and took his computer and some other things as evidence. He was held in jail for quite awhile but was released on bond and is still living next door waiting for his trial.

We have lots of kids in our neighborhood and they had always ridden bikes, scooters, walked to each others houses to play ball, etc. My kids walk home from the bus stop each day after school and I get home from work about the same time as they do. It's very scary and you just don't know what is the best thing to do. We personally still let our kids play outside and go to their friends houses. We have talked to them a lot about always telling us if anything happens, what to watch for, never go to their house, etc, but it is still scary.

Of course you shouldn't have been notified. I can't understand why you are wondering if you should have been. Be reasonable. There are hundreds (if not thousands) of sex offenders in every state. How could the police possibly notify every neighbor of every sex offender? Added to that impossibility, sex offenders move and the police would have to start from scratch every time and notify everyone in every community all over again. The police would spend all their time talking to the neighbors about past offenders instead of catching the new criminals.

It's your responsibility to check the sex offenders registry in your area if you want to know their last listed addresses. Not that the registry will tell you anything except that there is or used to be a registered offender living nearby. It won't tell you about the unregistered ones or the ones who didn't notify the sheriff's department when they moved so you should just watch your children carefully at all times.

Parental supervision at all times is far more effective in preventing crimes against children than tying up the police force to warn parents to supervise their children just because there's a known criminal in the area. A parent should just assume that there's always a criminal in the area and supervise their children carefully..

Well, cougarskies, I guess I would be unreasonable right along there with sunsetbeach too. I think its reasonable to have an automated system that kicks out notification letters to all addresses within some distance from the registered location of a sex offender. Heck, even local realtors use a similar system to let people in the neighborhood know when a local house goes on sale. I don't think it's as huge an overhead as you might think.

A parent simply cannot supervise children at all times. It really would not be appropriate to do so as children get older and would impede in their development to their own adulthood to have a parent always hovering over them.

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This is why parents need to talk to their children, and teach them to be safe and responsible. Don't talk to strangers, good touch/bad touch, etc.

I agree that in an ideal world I would like to be notified, but I also agree that it would be impossible to do so, for alot of the reasons listed here as well as others.

The house behind us has a sex offender, but in our case it was a situation with an "adult" (18 or 19) and a younger girlfriend. Still talked to the kids about it, but I don't want them to be cautious just around one house, or one person...those rules should apply to all situations they are in.

Seems like since theres so many sites to access that the parents would be more involved than sitting and waiting for a notice. And more often than not the sex offender is going to go after someone not living next door than someone a few miles or more away where their not know as an offender.

How far of a radius around the offender do the police need to give notice to, everyone going to be happy with a raise in taxes to cover all the paperwork and the people need to just work on that one project <notice for moving in, moving out ect> Do the police have to keep track too of who moves in and out around the offender so they dont miss out on the notice also

Just sounds like alot of they need to, instead of people working together in their own neighborhoods where you can live for years and not even speak to people nearby

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I was responding to cougarskies' comment about parental supervision. I certainly didn't mean to imply that parents should/could not educate their kids about stranger issues.

I'm pretty surprised that so many moms here think it's their responsibility to track sex offenders in their neighborhood. Don't know why, it's just surprising to me.

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And I agree with you cjs.. we can't be with our kids 24x7, so we need to educate them.

Of course it's a parents responsibility to keep their child safe. Unfortunately, these days this means keeping track of sexual offenders in your area on top of many other things. My oldest DD even checked the sex offender registry when she was looking for an apartment in January because she has two young children and didn't want to live near a sex offender. The only problem with the sex offender registry is that once an inmate is released from prison they have 30 days before they have to register (here in OK anyway) , so they are out there living somewhere unregistered. Then some fail to register at all, if it is part of the probation they can go back to jail if they can find them.

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Like Sexysmurf said National Sex Offender Registry is probably one of the best sites. You can register your address and they will email you when someone moves into your area. You must be proactive in a situation like this. Nobody is gonna come to your house and notify you.

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I found my state sexual registry to be more accurate. I just checked the Family watchdog out and they had one offender missing off the list for my area, there is only 3 living in town. He moved into town last August, so plenty of time for their list to be updated. Also, they gave only PO boxes for the other two offenders in town and not physical addresses like our local registry does. One of the two offenders did not have a picture. One had a charge of failure to register as a sex offender, but not the original sex offense charges listed. So out of only three sex offenders, it was not so accurate. So for my town this registry is not up to date or accurate.

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Everyone got me interested (and feeling like a bad mom) so I went to investigate sex offenders in my region. Looks like we have just one sex offender living in our town (population approx 35k) and one that lists a town address as a secondary. Both have convictions more than 10 years ago and are not repeat offenders. However, they are classified as level 3 "high risk" sex offenders. I wish there was more information available - like age and sex of the victim.

Hmm...now looking in another place, it looks like we have 21 level 2 offenders. Wish a person didn't have to search a bunch of different places to find the info....

Now the next town over and down by the lake, the watchdog site shows many hits.

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Just keep in mind that most children that are sexually abused are abused by someone they/the family knows, more often than not a family member.

Not trying to defend sex offenders in any way, just pointing out that the sex offender that lives a block away probably isn't the biggest threat to the neighborhood kids. Kids need to be educated that ANYONE can be an abuser.

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VERY good post, targetgirl!

UPDATE:

I placed a call to the sheriffs office today and the lady over the department of sex offenders called me back around 5:30 this afternoon. I was INDEED suppose to be notified of the man , however it was suppose to come from the local police department. Our state law states either we get a flier delivered via police department ( door to door ) or they send it via mail.Which we got neither. She suggested I place a call to the chief of police to notify him that none of us knew and wasn't given the information when he moved in with his mother. The man since being released from NH has lived in FLA and now here. He not only was convicted once but TWICE once in Jan 2002 and then again in March 2002. State of Fla has him listed as a sex predator. My state doesn't. I was told state law says he can't live with in 2,000 yards of a school, church or play ground. The WHOLE community should have been given notice of him. I thought I remember from years back we were suppose to get notified and I was right. The law when into effect in 2000.

Nothing I can do about him living 2 doors down but now I'm on guard about my kids standing outside waiting on the bus.Our drive way is the bus stop for the boys and the front yard for the girls. I have told my kids if he tries to talk to them or come over they are to run inside and let us know. My kids DON'T ever play outside alone so this is not a problem with them there alone. We face the 2nd busiest highway in the county hence why they don't play outside alone. our back yard has a space of 500 feet by 25 feet fenced in and when and if they want to play thats where they go, but now this will be off limits with out us knowing or being there since the man's house is less than 500 feet away from us.

And to answer your question cougarskies, You bet I expect to be notify of a sex predator or offender living here thats what our taxes help fund. Thats what drug money seized is used for in part. so yep I think every single state should have to do this. you know not everyone has the Internet .

Not sure if it is like this everywhere, but, some places have sexual offenders, and sexual predators. Depending on the type of offense is how they get classified, I think.

I totally agree. We have always told our kids, if it makes you feel uncomfortable, you don't need to allow it. Be it a hug from a relative or whatever. Not to say everyone is out to sexually abuse a child, but, if it makes you feel uncomfortable, something needs to be said.

I found this sight, might be helpful to someone:

Federal Bureau of Investigation - Crimes Against Children - National/State Sex Offender Registry

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Even if the police did notify every parent in every community in every state every time a sexual offender moved into the neighborhood, what are the police going to tell the parents? They would tell them that a sexual offender has moved into the neighborhood and warn the parents to supervise their children closely! It's all they can do and what the parents should have been doing in the first place because registered offenders aren't the only people who pose a danger to a child. Sigh.

I won't even bother discussing what constitutes a 'safe' distance from an offender before a parent should be warned or how much money it would take to implement such a program across every state. Let's just ignore the millions of dollars in lawsuits that will be filed every time the system breaks down or a parent feels that they were discriminated against because the notification radius was too narrow. We'll ignore the fact that most abuse doesn't come from registered offenders but from family and people the children trust. We'll overlook all the children and adults who are also at risk from non-sexual violent offenders and concentrate only on sexual offences against children. We won't worry about all the resulting lawsuits from people who will argue that not being notified that any convicted person who committed any kind of violent crime put them at risk. We'll ignore the fact that sexual offenders don't just stay in their house. They also travel but we'll only think about knowing where offenders live. The people unlucky enough not to be notified every time an offender goes on vacation in their area will be on their own. More lawsuits will arise but hey, just let those almighty tax dollars deal with it. We won't even concern ourselves with the fact that welfare receipients don't pay taxes yet certainly provide the world with children that need to be protected.

We'll forget the harrassment suits from the offenders themselves who will argue that their debt to society was paid and the monsterous settlements that will need to be paid once their advocates 'prove' that they were no longer a threat. We'll ignore too the millions that will be spent on the negligence lawsuits because some parent feels that they should have been warned because a criminal had exhibited clear signs that should have shown any reasonable person that he was a likely future offender.

The entire legal and welfare system will need to be completely overhauled because (contrary to your belief) additional taxes can't support such a massive undertaking, considering all the ramifications.

We won't concern ourselves with the fact that parents will have a lot more roaming criminals around to worry about now that all the police officers are too busy warning them about past criminal activity, leaving no time to curb all the current criminal activity. Most of all, we'll ignore that it was a waste of billions of dollars to have to tell parents to do what they should have been doing already.

But OK, Sunsetbeach, you've been officially notified. Now you know that there's a convicted sexual offender living nearby. Exactly what will you do differently now to protect your children than before it required billions of dollars to have a police officer remind you to stay on your toes and do your parenting job properly?

Oh would that also be the same tax dollars that DEFEND these a$$holes?. houses them and feeds them too ? Aw thats right it IS the same tax dollars, so yep if the same tax dollars can do this for them it can do it for us.

Here's little bit of just what that all mighty tax dollar pays for that poor little inmate that might get his feelings hurt because neighbors are notify of his past.

A total of 7.9% of the state general revenue budget goes to corrections in Florida, which has a budget of more than two billion dollars. $1.36 billion of that goes directly toward security and institutional operations, and another $373.2 million toward health services for inmates, including dental.

The cost of each prison varies, depending on the types of inmates who are housed there. For example, it costs $94.87 a day to house an inmate at a reception center, because the inmates residing there are being evaluated and tested medically, psychologically, academically, vocationally, etc. In contrast, a typical adult male facility costs just $43.11 per day to house an inmate. Most (80%) inmates work to help offset the cost of their incarceration. They work on farms and gardens producing their own food, construct new correctional facilities, and perform repairs and renovations to prisons. Inmates also prepare and serve all meals, maintain prison grounds, participate in sanitation and recycling processes, and work in PRIDE (Prison Rehabilitative Industries and Diversified Enterprises) programs. Additionally, inmates are assigned to Community Work Squads under agreements with the Department of Transportation, other state agencies such as the Division of Forestry, counties, cities, municipalities, and non-profit organizations. In FY0708, the DC’s Community Work Squad Program saved Florida taxpayers more than $57.2 million through inmate labor. In addition to their every day duties, correctional officers at 36 of our institutions serve as K-9 officers and are available to local law enforcement to aid in searches for fleeing felons, wandering elderly patients, and missing children, in addition to escapees from county jails.

Let's see
365 x 94.87 = 34,627.55 PER inmate

OR
43.11 X 365 = 15,735.15 PER inmate

I'm sure if I researched other states it would be around the same if not more.
Oh yea this doesn't include public defenders for them, food, medical, transportation while being held in the city jails before heading off to prison.
let's not for get about air transportation and road transportation either.

Oh yea let's not waste a penny of that on paper and a stamp. as far as the officers salary goes. Avg police officer pay is under 30,000 a year. So for the cost to house 1 inmate cost MORE than the salary of that police officer.
As far as lawsuits. Can you please post some links to where the state was sued and lost for not giving notice to neighbors that had a child sexually abused, Raped, killed or kidnapped.

Maybe if their Mama's held them more they wouldn't have to prey on little kids after all it's the jobs to make sure their sons/ daughters know right from wrong and whom they can have LEGAL sex with.

Statistics in Brief - Inmate Cost Per Day

and warn them that some sickos mama didn't parent him or her better. and now the law bidding has one more thing to worry about.SIGH

we are not talking about every kind of criminal, we are talking about a man or woman robbing a innocent child of their normal life by being sexually abused.non welfare children are afforded the same protection as well. you know the children of tax evaders.

My heart bleeds for them .Maybe they should have thought of that before sexually abusing a child.

I'm sure those tax dollars would be better spent doing a overhaul than providing dental,food,housing,transportation and the other things that pays for the up keep of the sicko sex offender.

Well if the sex offenders parents did a better job of raising them we wouldn't have this to worry about to start with now would we ? That also goes for the other criminals too.

No I wasn't officially notified. Thank- You. and as far me doing my parenting job properly I do, again thanks for the concern but it's not needed. But please by all means turn that concern to the parents thats raising these sickos and we can save the billions of tax dollars being "wasted" on notifications.

That's a selfish position and completely beside the point. Whether sex offenders should be incarcerated (with valuable tax dollars spent on their maintainance) or put to death (end of their upkeep expense) isn't the subject of your thread. Actually, there's not much point in debating that issue in any thread because sexual offenders will not be sentenced to death if their victim lives. Sexual offenders can't be allowed to roam free and commit more criminal acts and you can't incarerate anyone in the US without providing them with food.

Your sense of entitlement is disgusting. The waste of tax dollars in other areas doesn't excuse creating more waste. Too many people believe that the taxpayers (who by the way, are already overloaded) can fund anything and everything. I can't believe that you actually expect the taxpayers to pay for such an outrageously costly program just so a cop can tell you to do what you should be doing anyway!

You, know, there comes a point when you have to take personal responsibility[/b] for your own children! It's not the police department's job to specifically tell every parent when to keep an eye on their children. You created these people. It's your job to look after them and do everything in your power to keep them safe and well. It's possible that matter what you do, something terrible happens over which you had no control but that doesn't mean it's the police department's job to warn you of every possible danger. It's unreasonable to expect it and an impossibility for them to deliver, especially since they can't warn you about offenders that haven't been caught or convicted.

I've already told you why it's absolutely ridiculous to expect the police to personally warn every parent of the movements of every single sex offender. However, you have now been warned about a known sex offender and the police have told to watch your children and know their location at all times. It's 'official' so you can do that now. ROFL.

Your children will be safer if you just assume that there are perverts living in your area and act as if you had been 'officially' warned each time. Parental supervision would be much a more effective solution, not to mention much cheaper and actually feasible. The only downside is that parents will have to take responsibility for the offspring they created and if they aren't willing to do that, then a police officer reminding them to do it is a waste of time, anyway.

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yeah and you keep missing the point too. I didn't place this into LAW in my state ,the law makers did and by doing so it IS the police departments job to send notices thats what they are getting paid to do in this field, its a different section of the police department thats their ONLY job to send notices and keep updates on sex offenders. So I'm not requesting anything that their job doesn't REQUIRE them to do ., so they must have a budget to do so or it wouldn't be there. it no different than the street patrol or traffic division each has their own job to do.. so to your words an "entitlement" I'm asking for the entitlement the law makers offered to me to give me notice of a sex offender living 2 doors over. My job as a parent is totally being taken care of. My kids know not to go off with strangers, they know not to talk to strangers nor to go inside their homes. However, Kids can be tricked and convinced on just about anything. Now by having this notice I was able to SHOW my kids we have a person living here that IS a sex offender and now they KNOW the danger is real per them seeing his picture. parents can't watch their kids 24/7 things happen and not one parent can say they did a PERFECT job, and despite doing everything to the best of their abilities kids do get harmed could be from the fault of the parent or could be the fault of the sexual abuser knowing just what to say and waiting for his "perfect moment to attack"

when lawmakers feel it's an important enough thing to make it a law them I expect that law to give me the entitlement is was set forth to do.

my break down was to show you that tax dollars are spent on many things we the tax payer don't agree on. you worried about law suites and notices I worry about the cost of dental and computers for the criminals. why should our tax dollars pay for that when the sexually abused child parents shell out 1000.00 of dollars for A . testing for STD's B. mental care to try and help them led a normal life as possible after being sexually abused.

and yes I do wish we could let them stave and live on an island away from every single woman, man and child thats ever been abused sexually. further more I do wish we could put them to death if they offend again.

sexual crimes are the most sicking crimes whether its a child, woman or man.

Sunset, you keep going on about how much it cost to house these criminals, but surely that's better than having them all out in the community, isn't it?

Or is it that you think they should be given the death penalty, even if they haven't killed anyone, which has already been brought up in a few states? Usually a death penalty case ends up costing the state more than a life sentence. We've already seen that the death penalty doesn't work as a deterrent. All it would serve to do is ensure that more predators kill their victims so that they can't testify. I mean if they're going to be put to death anyway, then killing their victim lessens the chance they'll be convicted.

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Sex Offender Registration And Community Notification Statutes

The Legislature declares that its intent in imposing certain reporting and registration
requirements on criminal sex offenders is to protect the public, especially children, from the

dangers posed by criminal sex offenders and not to further punish such offenders.

Any person having been so convicted shall upon moving his legal residence from one
county to another register with the sheriff of the county to which he has moved within seven
days after such removal. It shall be unlawful for a convicted sex offender as described in this
article to fail or refuse to register as required in this section and failure to do so is a Class C

felony.

(11) RESPONSIBLE AGENCY. The person or government entity whose duty it is to obtain
information from a criminal sex offender before release and to transmit that information to
police departments or sheriffs responsible for providing community notification. For a criminal
sex offender being released from state prison, the responsible agency is the Department of
Corrections. For a criminal sex offender being released from a county jail, the responsible
agency is the sheriff of that county. For a criminal sex offender being released from a
municipal jail, the responsible agency is the police department of that municipality. For a
criminal sex offender being placed on probation, including conditional discharge or
unconditional discharge, without any sentence of incarceration, the responsible agency is the
sentencing court. For a criminal sex offender being released from the Department of Youth
Services, the responsible agency is the Department of Youth Services. For a criminal sex
offender who is being released from a jurisdiction outside this state and who is to reside in this

state, the responsible agency is the Department of Public Safety.

Criminal Justice Information Center shall be responsible for notifying the
Federal Bureau of Investigation with sex offender information upon receiving this information
from the responsible agency. Measures shall be taken to ensure this information is submitted

to and included in the national database of sex offenders established

If a sentencing court does not impose a sentence of incarceration upon conviction of the
adult criminal sex offender for a criminal sex offense, notification shall be provided by the
responsible agency in accordance with subsection (a) within 24 hours of release.
(c) Prior to release, every adult criminal sex offender convicted for a criminal sex offense shall
submit to the probation officer or sheriff a DNA sample that will be sent to the Department of
Forensic Sciences. An adult criminal sex offender who intentionally fails to provide a DNA
sample shall be guilty of a Class C felony.
(d) If an adult criminal sex offender is unable to declare a place of employment prior to release
because he or she is unemployed, the offender shall declare in writing or by electronic means
approved by the Director of the Department of Public Safety the name and physical address of
his or her employer to the sheriff of the county and chief of police of the municipality in which
the offender is employed by the end of the next business day after he or she obtains
employment. Any failure to provide a timely and accurate written declaration as required by

this section is a Class C felony.

If an adult criminal sex offender intends to transfer his or her residence to a different
location, he or she shall submit a notice of intent to move to the sheriff of the county and the
chief of police of the municipality in which he or she resides, and to the sheriff of the county
and chief of police of the municipality to which he or she plans to move, if such are different, at
least 30 days prior to moving to the new location. The notice of intent to move shall be on a
form developed by the Department of Public Safety provided by the sheriff and shall include all
the information required by this article for community notification. Failure to provide a timely
and accurate written declaration shall constitute a Class C felony.

Just so you will know this is my "ENTITLEMENT" To be notify.

I agree that sexual crimes are horrible and I have no sympathy for people who commit those crimes. That said, it's unrealistic to slowly starve criminals to death. It will never happen in this country. It's also unrealistic to expect that they will receive the death penalty for abuse. There are many degrees of abuse and it's going to be impossible to get a consensus on which degree deserves a death sentence. The death penalty is already a matter of controversy and there is no way they will sentence someone to death while the victim lives.

Where would you draw the line on who to execute? The sexual offenders registry covers everything from fifteen year old boys having consenual sex with their thirteen year old girlfriends to rape and sexual torture by predators. Most of the criminals will claim consent and it also brings up the issue of how we will feed and support these criminals while they sit on Death Row. The average wait now is around ten years. If you add thousands to them, the Death Row wait will stretch to twenty years and thousands of them would have to be fed and clothed the whole time they filed appeals.

While I can sympathise with your hatred of sexual offenders, your 'sentences' for them are unrealistic. The closest feasible solution is castration but you'll need the consent of the criminal and most will refuse. They'll always be some liberal ready to champion the rights of the pervert over the rights of the victim. It's sad but it's true.

It's also true that children do lie. It's a complete fallacy that no child ever lies about sexual abuse. Some do and they learned quickly that it's a potent revenge tool. It's just not going to be possible to kill someone just because a child or niece claims to have been abused. The sentence is too extreme considering the likelihood of false allegations, especially since adults who stand to inherit the estates will certainly orchestrate false charges against their relatives.

Incarceration or elective surgery for sexual offenders are the only two current reasonable alternatives unless/until society discovers a foolproof way to determine who's telling the truth.

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"Community notification" doesn't mean that they owe every single resident a personal phone call! The first laws you posted simply mean that a sexual offender must register his presence with the local authorities. If a city's rules state that a department must then notify the community, it still doesn't mean that they owe every single resident a personal phone call! It simply means that there must be a way to let the general public know and that way is almost always through the posted online sexual registry. It's the residents responsibility to check the registry if they're interested in the information. Residents without computers can use the machines at their local library. Residents without access to the information will have to rely on family or friends to tell them or call a phone number.

It's the same principle as the Severe Weather notification system. The public is notified that a severe weather system is on the way through various sources but there's no law that says the police must personally call every resident and warn them that a storm's coming.

I think your energy would be much better spent educating your children about sexual abuse and ways to help avoid it instead of blaming the police for not personally reminding you to watch your children. I'm not aware of any law that entitles you to a personal phone call every time a criminal moves into your area but if you think your rights have been violated, I suggest you take the matter up with your local police department. You should do more research before you do, though because the document you just provided doesn't prove your case at all.

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I have no problem with the taxes going to keep this animals behind bars. My example was to show that tax dollars can be wasted on just about anything and everything people don't agree where they should be spent.
My "Personal" views are no we shouldn't have to spend money to afford computers, Public defenders ( when its clear they are guilty of the crime) or even a college education while in jail. these are not needed IMPHO. But I don't control what gets spent where and my views are like anyone else's when they DO agree the criminals should be afforded these things.The post was just an example since it was being debated whether the government could afford to send notices, my view was yes they could if we didn't have to afford the things criminals receive while being jailed.Thats all. I know someone can't be sentenced to death for sexual abuse. I have already lived that in my personal life already. But the man did get 99 years in prison to where he did sever 15 before dying.I know the death penalty doesn't work as you said if it did there would be far less on death roll. a person on death roll usually spends 20 years before he or she is put to death by their state.

I do however believe people should be notify when a sex offender moves in a neighborhood. We have more than just Americans living here, what about all the non speaking English people ?, parents that can't afford computers with Internet ? Parents who have to work but can't afford babysitting ? there's 100's of things that can keep a family from knowing there's a sex offender in the neighborhood. School, Church's and daycares also have Internet so why do they get notices but the "general public" don't ? are they not just as responsible for the care and supervision of say child in their care ?.
so why can't people living in states that don't have the community notice act not get this information as well ?.I do wonder how many children thats fallen victim to sex offenders could have been on notice if 1 sheet of paper had been sent out ?.
Parents and children alike feel safe in their settings as they should. But having notice there's danger will make them award to not let that safety net down too much because after all it is just next door to Johnny's house. Know what I mean ?.Children despite all of our teaching on stranger danger and just say NO are after all just children. Children trust no matter how much we teach them not to trust so much. My children in Cub Scouts trust me and I probably could take them anywhere I wanted and they never would think anything is wrong with this because after all the "know me" they "see me" every single week for the last 2 years. But what if I was a sex offender ?. Having notice of this they would be less likely to trust or leave with me. This is all I'm trying to say really, Its not a matter or what tax dollars get spent where, it's about being given notice of someone that could possibly harm children and that to me is a worthy cause of tax dollars.
Hope this clears up any misunderstandings.

A notification will only tell you that a known sexual offender lives nearby. It will not tell you about sexual offenders that haven't been convicted. It will not warn you to be wary of anyone else so it's simply a heads up to supervise your children around this one person. There are more sexual offense than convictions so it would be wise to not rely on a phone call to remind you to teach your children to be careful.

Your latest remark really doesn't help your position that Americans should pay exorbitant taxes so that foreigners who haven't bothered to assimilate can benefit from a reminder service to watch their own children. ROFL. Most of the English speak the language quite well and are rarely silent but non-English speaking people here in America can use an online free tool to translate the registry into their language of choice. I guess it won't be as convenient for them as receiving a personal phone call in their native language but they should learn our language anyway if they're going to live here. If they refuse to do that, they'll just have to suffer the extra step.


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If I'm not mistaken did they this with chemical castration years and years ago ? I thought I also read somewhere they did this study of having the men sit in chairs and flashed pictures really fast on children, sexual acts etc. Maybe I saw this on a show, hell could have been in a movie LOL.

I guess I'm just a little freaked out over this not even "knowing" someone living within yards from my children has been convicted 2 times in 2 months of a sexual offense. I don't even know if knowing it was just once I would feel any better about it. I do know when I spoke to the head dept today she told me the charges did mean he had sex or penetration with the girl and she was 12 yo. but FLA has him listed as a twice offender and my state only has the 1 charge. Fla also list him as a predator and we don't. She took note and said she would check into this so it could be update in the system.She also did tell me the community notice did mean we should have receive a flier or mailer with his picture and convictions listed. Maybe I worry this man will some how break into our home at night or my neighbors home to get to our children. I have never left my children alone ever not even my grown children when they were kids. my 4 at home now has never been outside alone either with out being in the fenced in back yard. I felt safe about that as it is right at my back door and none of them go outside by them self. but I'm just so uneasy about the predator part of this whole deal. to me, a predator is the WORSE kind of abuser they have the skills, knowledge and know how to get what they want and most will not stop at 1 or 2 they keep going because it's part of what they do. Know what I mean ?.My children are my life as it should be with every caring parent. I don't know if I what I would do if anything happen to one of them by the hands of another.I'm one of those mom's that worries a lot probably too much at times, But I have seen 1st hand what a sexual low life can do when he takes "notice" of a child and I can tell you he will not stop till he gets it this I promise you.

cougarskies it was never my intent to be harsh or hateful in my replies. I never mean to offend you in anyway. I have strong feelings when it comes to men and women preying on children. I know it's not about the sex in 99.9% of the cases it's about the control over the victim. It is by far one of the most disgusting crimes outside of murder of the innocent. and I wish we had a better way of controlling the crimes and tracking the offender. Maybe one day we will till then as long as they are locked up we are safe, but when they start getting out either from serving their time or over crowding thats what the problems becomes everyones. sad imho.

Oh yes about the underage right around the the consent age . I know a guy that had to leave town because of this very same thing. I will be the 1st to defend a person till it's a fact and I also will be the 1st to say not every sexual crime should carry the label sex offender. read my 1st post i said this. this boy was 18 his girlfriend as weeks away from being 16 they LIVED in her mothers home. the couple got into a fight and the mom pressed charges against the boy for rape. The law said upon the conviction the mother couldn't give consent for a sexual act for her daughter ( meaning even tho the mother allowed the couple to live in teh home and share a bed she couldn't give consent for the sexual act ). He was convicted of the rape and listed as a sexual offender.When he moved in the town I lived in people found out and got him fired from his job by saying they wouldn't do business there. They placed BABY RAPER signs in his yard at night for the whole neighborhood to see in the morning. His life was a living HELL all because the mom pressed charges. totally UNREAL that law needs to be changed . If a parent knowingly allows a boyfriend to share a bed with her daughter or son with a girlfriend charges shouldn't be allowed against the older of the 2. thats crazy !

I agree totally with you on this. It is at times the unknowing thats the bigger of the 2 problems.This is why I have taught the kids stranger danger and just say NO, but I still worry. I worry since it (was)till now just a unseen lesson on the dangers.( hope that made sense )that the kids wouldn't listen nor remember the lesson. Now that my kids have seen the picture and know this man has done bad things to little girls ( even tossed in little boys for my boys sake) they know he's a real live person that could harm them. So all in all it has worked out at least for us having that picture I printed out once my den asst called me to say he lived next door. So my kids can now put a face with the lesson and know this is real.

As far as the non english speaking goes, I don't think much will change in that department till we get an official language here. I do know at my children's school children are not allowed to speak their native language if they know english, so there's hope this will carry over to the parents.. I have always said it's always a good idea to be able to speak english due to the fact what do you say to a non speaking person of your native tongue if your child gets hurt or is dying ? how will the doctors know just what happen to them and the care that should be taken to save their life.it's always best to know the language of the county you are in or visiting.

again I wanted to apologize for any heated debates on my part. it was never my intent for this to happen.

I understand your concern; I think you're right to be concerned. What I am trying to tell you is that he is not the only one so such a system isn't very meaningful. It's barely above worthless. Even if it's completely accurate (big if), all it tells you is to watch your children closely around this particular person. You should be watching your children around other neighbors, too because they could be an abuser too. Only convicted sexual offenders are listed in the registry. There are a lot more offenders out there that haven't been listed and a notification system can't tell you about all those people.

Spending millions and millions of taxpayer dollars won't save children from any of those unknown criminals so it would be better to simply behave as if other sexual offenders you don't know about are in some of the other homes too instead of relying on a warning about a specific person. The warning is a nice heads up but that's all it is. There are other sexual predators in the community that you would never identify as such. They masquerade as leaders of the community and until caught, are respected and admired. They come in all sizes and shapes and most will never be convicted or even suspected of being a pervert.

I wish I knew how to stop them and keep all children safe but I don't. I think the only thing you can do is educate your children on how to decrease the risk of sexual abuse (without scaring them), watch over them as best you can, and hope that you placed your trust in the right people. Unfortunately, there's really not much else you can do.

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No problem. I apologize if my views or the way I expressed them offended you in any way. I think we both agree that sexual predators are a threat and need to be stopped. The pain they cause can (and probably does) affect the victim for their entire life. I wish I knew how to get rid of sexual offenders entirely because I think very few of them change and most will re-offend and ruin another inocent person's life. I really wish that (upon conviction), castration was mandatory but I don't think it will happen in my lifetime, if ever.

I couldn't agree with you more on this issue. I wish we had a little island some where in the middle of the ocean to place these people.I find it all so "odd" when I hear they have found "god" while being jailed. I'm sure some do, but what happen to that same "god" before your butt got caught ?
( just a side note on that matter ). You are very right as the rest here that said we have to teach the lessons of safety to the children. As a den leader to cub scouts I had my boys to sign a card promising net safety, phone safety and stranger danger safety. This summer we will help the local police department take finger prints (ID cards ) in the local park as part of their safety badge. My kids know better to open the door or allow anyone inside. I'm the ONLY one besides their dad that can open the door, heck they wont even open it for their sister unless asking if they can. I do how ever have some problems with my son thats autistic doing this. but usually he's right under my feet not many times he's in a different room than where I'm..

I also wish we had castration for them, but on that same note for many it's not about the sex its about the control and they still have hands and fingers to abuse ( sickening again ).

apology accepted none needed. I think we both agree our system sucks when it comes to these sickos sharing our world. Glad we can continue this in the adult way, sure is a nice change around this site for sure .

P.s cant sleep either ? I had a cam pout set for tonight however, the weather had other plans for us. My son keeps getting up every time it thunders LOL. Thought 2 of the 4 would break down my door when the lights went off. still don't understand how they knew this they were sleeping when it happen

Again, let the governement do everything for everyone.

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Oh please don't blame an offender's parents! With true sexual predators, it wouldn't have mattered how they were raised (and some were even "raised right")!
Blaming the parents, or society or anything other than the offender is wrong(in most cases), and doesn't hold the offender responsible for their own actions and behaviours!

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Hi marilynk,
I wasn't. I was being sarcastic.

OK.
I'm sure if we were speaking, as opposed to writing, it would have been clearer!

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Yes in person vs typing , It wouldn't be taken the same.

Ok off to do my camp out with the cubs. Hope the Strom has passed now. The boys want to sleep in their tents outside.