I was going to the one in our area but wasn't able to due to some health problems.

I was really excited at the great turnout all across the United States. I'm glad to see people standing up for what they believe in and letting Congress know we're not happy with their bailouts and misuse of our money!!

No, I had quite a few people send me invites though. A few mistakenly referred to them as "tea bag parties" The differences are subtle yet many.

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I didn't but dh and a friend did. Said it was great, and that a lot of people were there.

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Ann Curry gave it barely one sentence in her news report.

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All the cool babies are wearing cloth!

I didn't know about ours until right after it ended or we might have gone!

Make Fox News your homepage and you will be in the loop.

You won't get the information from any of the other mainstream media.

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All the cool babies are wearing cloth!

And it sounds like more people are passionate about this issue than the mainstreamers want to acknowledge. Personally, I think that's why CNN seems to have made the executive decision to let their reporters step it up a notch and show their snarling liberal teeth - they need the ratings badly and think perhaps the controversy will bring some viewers their direction. These are the stats for the 8-11 time slot the day of the tea parties....

FOXNEWS 3,390,000
MSNBC 1,210,000
CNN 1,070,000
CNN HEADLINE 909,000

I guess people watched it on tv rather than attending. It explains the turnout.

Yup, that'd be me. Small town, no local party and too busy to drive to the next town over, but interested and wanting to be there nonetheless.

I hope that's your approach to elections too.

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Oh, no, thanks. I can vote a mere nine blocks from my house, all the way across town of course.

I didn't participate but a lot of people in our town did. I guess there were hundreds of people lined up along our main hwy making traffic come to a standstill for awhile. Someone said maybe 1,000 people so of a town of under 70K, that's not too bad

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I heard that the estimates for turnout were from 25,000 to 250,000. In a nation of more than 300 million, it's not much of a tunout. Besides, I'll bet that half of those who turned out were Fox employees.

Will we miss Texas after they secede and elect Chuck Norris president for life?

Same reason.
But I have enjoyed the pictures and youtube videos of some of the TEA parties.

A link to some of the pictures.
Pictures from the Tea Parties across the Nation

This youtube video is awesome. The girl is only 17 years old.
YouTube - Melika Willoughby Madison Tax Tea Party

Also it is being reported by WND
"An estimated 1 million Americans participated in at least 1,000 tea parties, according to reports by organizers tabulating the nationwide numbers, with documented protests held in 50 states."

I have been reading that more protests are being planned for July 4 around the country.

And there you have it.

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More people than the official count of the Million Man March

But the importance is not about the numbers. Some people still have jobs that they have to go to so not everyone can attend if they wanted to.

Our first revolution in the country was started with less than 1 percent of the people.

During the lead up to the Iraq war, there were a million people in New York City alone. The national papers covered the protests; television did not.

I don't know why on Earth they would hold another one. I think that everybody gets that you don't think that you should have to pay taxes, you hate Obama, immigrants and France.

And Obama maintains the support of two thirds of the nation.

Yes, and more people than live in my house. So what?

And many people thought that it was a whack-job Faux-News-hyped AstroTurf event that was just stupid.

Please explain what you mean by that. Does this mean that the Tea Bag Partiers also plan on revolting? Will Rick Perry lead the way?


BTW, my point, which you seem to have missed, is that you can't rely on numbers provided by a biased party, which is what you're trying to do.

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That is so narrow-minded BS.
You can hold different views from someone and not HATE them as a person.

Good, so you don't hate Obama.

Do you dislike him as a person?

Or do you like him?

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I do not know him personally so I do not know if I would like him as a friend.

I do dislike his policies.

There is a difference ...from your usual posting tone I get the impression you hate George Bush.
I do not hate the Obama's..I just disagree with them on a lot of issues.

I saw a lot of anti Obama signs. There was a lot of that birth certificate nonsense.
I saw Obama called a fascist, Hitler, liar and many calls for impeachment.

The main purpose of this nonsense seemed to be about bashing Obama.

I just get a giggle every time I see/hear the term "tea bag".

Jon Stewart has been having a field day with it.

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This was NOT organized by Fox News. Geeeeeezzzzzzzz.
I don't hate Obama. I think most people that attended these parties don't want to burden our children any further, don't want handouts to every business that fails, don't want "socialized" welfare handouts, etc... I don't like his policies, I don't like his pro abortion stance, etc... We are sick of handouts using our money. It's quite simple actually.

OK, I usually don't get involved in political flap but I have to set something straight here.

Obama is NOT "Pro-abortion". Nobody that I've ever met, read about, heard of, seen, etc. is "pro-abortion". The term is PRO CHOICE. This means that a woman has the right to choose if she wants to have an abortion or not.


I am pro choice but I don't cut down the other side by using inflammatory terms for their viewpoint. They are PRO LIFE, not any other colorful term I could come up with for them.

For the record, I don't think that Obama is the second coming or anything either. I voted for him but only because he came out as the leser of two evils IMHO.

Flame away, I know some of ya' want to, lol!

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No one accused Fox News of organizing it. They sure promoted the heck out of it, though. It was organized by Dick Armey's FreedomWarks. You did know that didn't you?

<snicker> Like I said in my earlier post I was invited to a few "tea bagging parties" by some of the more conservative moms at school. How am I supposed to keep a straight face?

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Don't know if they actually organized, but why put their name on it?

FNC Tax Day Tea Parties

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For the record the name changed occured in 2003. BEFORE that it was called Pro-abortion. Google the information.
changing a name ...like putting lipstick on a pig.

Jenh22, I KNOW I wouldn't have been able to keep a straight face if someone came up to me and invited me to a "tea bagging party" and was serious about it.

I'd have cracked right up and told them they better google "tea bagging" before they invited anyone else to their party. Someone might just get the wrong idea and come prepared for a whole different kind of party, lol!

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Why does it matter? It's all euphemisms and doublespeak anyway!

Have you heard? It's no longer terrorism either. It's "man-caused disasters" .

Man I miss George Carlin.

By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth.
George Carlin

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Are you talking about NARAL Pro-Choice? It may have changed its name in 2003, but certainly the term pro-choice was used widely before 2003.

Yep, an earlier post said half the people attending were employees of Fox News or something similar. My error.

Pro abortion or Pro choice - still ends up with a dead baby. Why would the term pro-abortion be offensive anyway? Is that what you mean by inflammatory? If you really think it's fine and should be legal (don't say "I personally wouldn't have one" - it's either ok or it's not) then why not proudly say you are pro-abortion? That is what it boils down to. And if our Pres thinks abortion should be legal through all nine months, with no limits, then he's pro-abortion.

If you attended the tea bag parties does that mean you "teabagged" yesterday??

Hmmm....that might depend on whether you're the "teabaggie" or the "teabagger".

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I'm fine with Pro-Abortion. It is all just a matter a semantics.

You say Pro-Life. I say Anti-Choice --- and it still ends up with the same thing -- your religious beliefs in my vagina. So, why not say that proudly? You have something to say about what I do with my vagina. You have opinions about what I do with my genitalia. My reproductive system is of personal concern of yours....and you feel that you have a right to tell me what I can or can't so with it. Better yet...you think the government should be in control of my junk. I would rather have them worry about the economy and protecting the boarders...but, if you want them to reinstate a form of slavery that only applies to one gender in this nation, that is your Choice....or wait...aren't you anti-choice?

So, say it loud and proud...

Po-TAY-toe, Poh-TAH-toe, Toe-May-toe.....ah, you get the picture.

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"Boarders" -- I guess that applies, too, the way the Obama administration is going.....

Like another poster said, it's all ends up the same way -- a dead baby.

Maybe someone will start another thread about dead babies and abortion.....

But back to the post, these tea parties weren't all republicans. It was democrats, middle of the roaders, independents, and republicans -- basically anyone who has a beef with the way congress is handling (or not handling) our economy and our money. Of course, the 3 networks and CNN aren't going to cover something against Obama -- they're still on their honeymoon with him.

Abortion is legal in this country.

I wouldn't worry too much about President Obama making the wrong choice in your opinion. It's not a choice that he or any other man will ever face.

You have to admit that Fox was rather well represented.

It's fascinating to listen as the same people that rail against aborting a fetus are all in favor of both the Iraq war, torture, and the death penalty.

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Geezzzz, you're talking about totally different things. There's nothing in common with them and abortion.

You supposedly value "life" when it consists of a few cells yet have no qualms about the million lives we have taken in Iraq,

Life is only valuable to the anti-choice crazies when it's "unborn." Hypocrites.
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Your statement is absurd. I am pro-life or "anti-choice" as you like to spin it. We pray every Sunday in Mass (and everyday for that matter) for "respect for human life from conception until natural death". I think the death penalty is an abonination. I think torture is wrong. Abortion is murder no matter what. That does not make me or others who believe the same "hypocrites". Don't you dare lump everyone into your myopic view of conservatives, Republican or otherwise.

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OK, I'm going to throw this out there.

For those that are Pro-life, what is your opinion on IVF?

I can't see how people who are Pro-life can be pro-IVF.

My opinion is this: Someone believes that life begins at conception and that causing the death of an embryo that is only a few cells in size is murder. Fine. Then how is it OK to create fertilized cells in a petri dish and implant them in a woman knowing full well that many if not most/all of them are going to die. Is that not murder just the same? The only difference I can see is that one fertilization took place inside a human being and the other did not. Assuming the sex was consentual, both actions that caused fertilization were deliberate, so what exactly is the difference? So why are there no "Stop the murder" protests outside IVF clinics?

I've asked various people I know who are pro-life about this and many have replied that they are against IVF and the others said they never really thought about it but it was a good point.

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Yes. . .the "death" of those fertilized embryos (sp?) bothers me, as does the selective abortions that sometimes go along with IVF. It is an interesting question though. Say for me. . I think. . .the embryos are fertilized, and introduced to the womb. . now the embryos that don't make it. . .is that akin to a miscarriage? No "person" is terminating them. . .they all have an equal chance. I don't know. . .it's a gray area. But the selective abortions that often come later with IVF do bother me. . .no gray area there.

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If you are against selective abortions w/ IVF, then what are your feelings on Octomom?

And this is not directed at hambirg. Her post made me curious.

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Well, besides the obvious that she is nuts, I place a lot of blame on her fertility doctor. However, once the deed is done, I still don't support selective abortion. It's a how do you choose and who gets to choose issue for me. I just feel that once it's done, it's done. . .you are now the whacky nut job pregnant with 8 babies.

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Just because it's legal doesn't make it right. If you are against the death penalty and it's legal would you rail against it?

Let's discuss CHOICE, shall we??

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Choice. Hmmmm.... I don't see anyone giving the baby being aborted a CHOICE.

Life is valuable period. However, when you're talking about war, death happens; that's part of war. Sacrifices are made to keep us free. If you'd rather not live in the United States where freedom is fought for, perhaps you'd care to go to Iran or some other God-forbidden place where you wouldn't be able to speak your mind so freely (I believe they stone to death outspoken people, especially women); when you talk about the death penalty, the person who is being given the death sentence has done something that deserved the death penalty.
A baby has done nothing wrong. Why does a baby deserve a sentence of death?

"Anti-choice crazies and hypocrites", as one has spouted in another post -- I believe these are words people use when they have no other way to express their ignorance and they're frustrated because they know that's just what they're doing -- is spouting just words.

Excellent. May I also add that a person who is sentenced to death in this country has had a trial and appeal after appeal until all avenues are exhausted. If any "pro choice" people aren't willing to pull the lever at the gas chamber aren't you the hyprocrit? If a mom can kill her child surely you (pro-choicers) would have no problem putting someone to death. If you can do it to the innocent why not the guilty???

Don't I dare? Get over yourself, I will "dare" think whatever I want to. If the statement doesn't apply to you, then you're not one of the anti-choice crazies, are you?

My view of conservatives and Republicans is crystal-clear, I assure you. There are anti-choice people and then there are anti-choice crazies. If you're anti-choice, that's your business -- just keep your views off my body.

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