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Old 04-21-2009, 09:07 PM
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Question What Do You Think About What Perez Hilton said about Miss California?

What do you think of Perez Hilton's question to Miss California in the Miss USA pagent and then what he said about her in his blog? He asked her her feelings basically on same-sex marriage and she said she was brought up to believe that marriage was between a man and a woman. He videoed on his blog that she was a 'b****' and some other nasty stuff. Perez Hilton is an openly gay guy who was one of the judges in the pagent.

Perez Hilton Was 'Shocked' By Gay-Marriage Answer - THINK MTV

I feel it was inappropraite to ask that question. It was almost like he was setting her up. She answered the question as she felt and wasn't politically correct. What did he want her to do --- not be true to what she believes?

Why is it okay to blast a conservative Christian for stating her views? Talking about a biased judge.....
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:21 PM
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While I disagree w/ Ms. Cali's opinion---it's her opinion and that was what she was asked for! And she expressed it in a very respectful manner.

I believe that Perez's intolerance reflects poorly on him and his attitude is similar to, if not just like, the attitude he's bashing Ms. Cali for. Intolerance! Whether it's intolerance against homosexuals or intolerance against those who don't "approve" of homosexuality.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:32 PM
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I feel it was inappropraite to ask that question. It was almost like he was setting her up. She answered the question as she felt and wasn't politically correct. What did he want her to do --- not be true to what she believes?
I agree.

I'm pro-gay marriage, but she answered the question honestly and it shouldn't be held against her.

It's not like she's running for office where her political views actually count. It's unfair for her to lose points just because the judges disagree with her opinion.
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I do not agree with Miss Ca., but, Perez was most unkind with his comments. The question was loaded. She answered it honestly. If he didn't really want to hear an answer that contradicts his own opinion, he should not have asked.

I think that he was a bad choice as a judge. He owes her an apoilogy.

(And, she needs to see the light.)
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:21 PM
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I've already written to the Miss California officials to show my support for her. She gave a dignified answer. Perez, on the other hand, is an embarrassment. He needs to apologize and I don't think he should be a judge again after the way he has behaved. Totally unprofessional calling her names, etc...
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He's a hatemonger.

She has a sincerely held and respectfully communicated belief. She isn't out to 'get' anybody or to make anybody look stupid or to 'bash'. She just has a belief... something every American is free to do. Hers isn't PC these days but it certainly has historical support, and in more 'times' than not, that response would have been exactly what would have been THE PC response to give. She wasn't rude, belittling, or bashing.... she just shared her personal belief and didn't attempt to impose it on others, and didn't attempt to make him look or feel stupid.

To call him "most unkind" is truly a PC understatement of the week. He was foul, vile, hate-spewing, intolerant, and a disgusting jerk. Let's not hold back here... lol.
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Old 04-22-2009, 01:45 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out why the question was even asked to start with.
I'm also trying to figure out why Perez is so *shocked* by her answer ..
He is acting like a big baby if you ask me. Him of all people should already know that not EVERYONE agrees with same sex relationships or marriages.
This is not something new, it's been going on way before he was even born and I'm sure in his life he has ran across many many people that don't agree with his sexual preference, so why be so *shocked* by asking a loaded question to start with. If you ask you should also be prepared to hear answers that might not float your boat. So what she doesn't agree, Big deal !
But I find it really DISTASTEFUL for him to say what HE wanted to hear and when that didn't happen he writes nasty things about her . PLEASE he needs to grow up.He acts as if she's the only one in the world that disagrees.
I find it refreshing that she can be honest and not buy into all this PC crap. If you start to change because the world dislikes what you truly feel then you are no more than a robot for them to program you to be just like them.
I say good for her, he asked she gave, too bad too sad it wasn't what he wanted to hear, he really needs to get over himself.
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:06 AM
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Did anyone else notice the applause after she stated she was for marriage between men and women? She also stated on an interview today, in reference to Perez saying she is supposed to represent everyone, that she represents California and California voted against gay marriage. I thought that was a good comment too.
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I am unaware of who Perez Hilton is, much less why he is in the spotlight. I have only recently heard his name and thought it was Paris, pronounced incorrectly. I did see a clip on the news so I now know it's not Paris. His question was more than loaded, and her answer was clear, balanced and well thought out. That's part of why I don't watch, it's so subjective.

I know I'm out of the loop, so someone help me out about him.

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Old 04-22-2009, 06:48 AM
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"Opposite marriage"? Miss California is clearly not too bright and Perez Hilton isn't any better. They both came out looking like stupid losers.
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"Opposite marriage"? Miss California is clearly not too bright and Perez Hilton isn't any better. They both came out looking like stupid losers.
They aren't the only ones, and not only on this issue. Some people consistently do this to themselves.

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He set her up and I think she handled herself with grace. She is a graduate of a Christian College, so he pretty much guessed what her views were before he even asked them.

I also am pro gay marriage, but when you bash someone who gives a thoughtful answer even if you don't agree with it, you don't help your cause much.

I do know that WIllie Giest still voted for her to win, so she did have some support.
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Old 04-22-2009, 08:06 AM
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"Opposite marriage"? Miss California is clearly not too bright and Perez Hilton isn't any better. They both came out looking like stupid losers.
I totally agree with this statement.
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:32 AM
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Respect the fact that my core belief values consider homosexual marriage unacceptable.


According to a History Book I'm reading (History tends to repeat itself wouldn't you say?) when societies fall into a pattern of rampant homosexual behavior, judgment/punishment of some sort follows thereafter. I'd prefer that not happen in my lifetime or my children's lifetime for that matter.


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I guess I'm in the minority here. I completely agree with Miss California, and respect her courage to tell the world her beliefs even in the midst of obvious opposition.
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:56 AM
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i read perez blog everyday its like a train wreck...lol. I think he loves controversy and whenever something comes up he runs it into the ground until people are sick of hearing about it. I didnt watch it so I didnt hear her response only read it on the net. I think if you are gonna ask a question like that then you should be able to accept whatever answer is given. I mean everybody is intitled to their opinions. Then dont cry about it for days on your blog and call her names and it keep it dragging out. Side note... I twitter and on my twitter among other people i have P. Diddy or puffy or whatever he calls himself now and i have perez. Well i guess perez was trying to get P. Diddy all tore up over stuff and then perez got mad b/c P. Diddy blocked him...lol. I thought P. Diddy says if you are not here to uplift then i will block you. I think Perez just lives on pushin people's buttons. But i still read his blog everyday and usually roll my eyes and chuckle over it.

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Old 04-22-2009, 09:59 AM
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I wondered why he asked her that question and if everone else got question like what are your favorite kind of shoes. lol Then I saw that she had picked her question out of a bowl so it was the luck of the draw. They said on tv that was how she answered the question not what side she took. My 22 year old son didn't like how she said in my coutry. Also she said afterwards that she answered for California but almost 1/2 of us (I don't remember how many) voted for gay marraige so she is not speaking for a lot of us. I feel sorry for the winner. Miss California keeps saying she lost because of the question. Maybe she would have been first runner up anyway.

I also didn't read what Perez Hilton said but I don't think he is noted for being nice to people. I also wondered why he was a judge but it is probably to help with the ratings.
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:07 AM
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i guess i'm in the minority here. I completely agree with miss california, and respect her courage to tell the world her beliefs even in the midst of obvious opposition.
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Respect the fact that my core belief values consider homosexual marriage unacceptable.


According to a History Book I'm reading (History tends to repeat itself wouldn't you say?) when societies fall into a pattern of rampant homosexual behavior, judgment/punishment of some sort follows thereafter. I'd prefer that not happen in my lifetime or my children's lifetime for that matter.


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Old 04-22-2009, 02:17 PM
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I guess I'm in the minority here. I completely agree with Miss California, and respect her courage to tell the world her beliefs even in the midst of obvious opposition.
You aren't in the minority. I feel the same as you do.
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:32 PM
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You aren't in the minority. I feel the same as you do.
I feel the same way. I think most people felt that Hilton's comments were totally out of line.

Perez Hilton is the spokesperson that gay people don't want to represent them!
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Old 04-22-2009, 02:47 PM
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I feel the same way. I think most people felt that Hilton's comments were totally out of line.

Perez Hilton is the spokesperson that gay people don't want to represent them!
I was watching an interview - Larry King I think - and Perez was debating against a conservative radio host - Dennis Praeger (sp) and he didn't do that well in the debate. Dennis, however, made awesome points. Perez brought up the old black/white marriage taboo that used to exist and Dennis countered with the gender difference not race issue points. Basically Dennis said if you totally see no difference in the sexes- ie we shouldn't have a difference between Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, etc...then that would be consistant with a pro gay marriage view. However, he stated, that if you do think there are difference between males and females then you should favor civil unions but not gay marriage. It was very interesting. One of the few times I've seen Perez be relatively quiet!
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:11 PM
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Just a thought -- if EVERYONE was gay, there would be no more human race. Hmmmm.....
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:33 PM
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Just a thought -- if EVERYONE was gay, there would be no more human race. Hmmmm.....
maybe, but maybe not....Species have a way of evolving, generally speaking, to continue their existence. Who's to say?
Also, let's keep in mind that one does not have to love someone to procreate! Sex is sex. Love is something entirely different!
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:56 PM
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I don't watch crap like Miss USA but I saw the snippet on the news. Although I commend Miss CA for speaking what she believed and not saying "what he wanted to hear", she did a horrible job of stating her position. The whole "in my country"...I think that ruined it right there. She wasn't well spoken when it came to that question.

Although I totally disagree with her answer, I do admire her for stating her beliefs. I don't know WHY that sort of question would be there though. It doesn't have anything to do with Miss USA and could only be used to be controversial.
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Old 04-22-2009, 05:06 PM
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According to a History Book I'm reading (History tends to repeat itself wouldn't you say?) when societies fall into a pattern of rampant homosexual behavior, judgment/punishment of some sort follows thereafter. I'd prefer that not happen in my lifetime or my children's lifetime for that matter.
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I saw a bit on some "news" show and Miss CA said she could have answered the question with a little more diplomacy and that when she practiced her answers to the possible questions that could be asked the gay marriage one was one that she didn't spend that much time/effort on.

I think she learned a good lesson on how NOT to answer a controversial question when you're not sure how your opinion will be received. While it is admirable to state your beliefs, there is a right and wrong way to do it when you're trying to score points in a contest.

Oh, and Prez Hilton is an absolute tool and I thought that LONG before this happened.
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:48 PM
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Just a thought -- if EVERYONE was gay, there would be no more human race. Hmmmm.....
Nah, the way the world is- at least here - there would probably be sperm swapping parties or something.
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Old 04-22-2009, 11:03 PM
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Just a thought -- if EVERYONE was gay, there would be no more human race. Hmmmm.....
Science has taken care of that. You no longer have to have sex to have a baby. Though if everyone were gay, there would be no unplanned pregnancies and thus, no abortions.

...just sayin'
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Science has taken care of that. You no longer have to have sex to have a baby. Though if everyone were gay, there would be no unplanned pregnancies and thus, no abortions.

...just sayin'
You know, I read something last year that said the Y chromosome is getting shorter. That usually means that it's on its way to extinction. Wonder what's next.

This also would lead to no abortions.
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I don't watch crap like Miss USA but I saw the snippet on the news. Although I commend Miss CA for speaking what she believed and not saying "what he wanted to hear", she did a horrible job of stating her position. The whole "in my country"...I think that ruined it right there. She wasn't well spoken when it came to that question.

Although I totally disagree with her answer, I do admire her for stating her beliefs. I don't know WHY that sort of question would be there though. It doesn't have anything to do with Miss USA and could only be used to be controversial.
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

Seriously, who even watches Miss USA anymore? I think it was pretty contrived if you ask me.

Oh yeah, and Perez Hilton is a classless tool!
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He's a hatemonger.

She has a sincerely held and respectfully communicated belief. She isn't out to 'get' anybody or to make anybody look stupid or to 'bash'. She just has a belief... something every American is free to do. Hers isn't PC these days but it certainly has historical support, and in more 'times' than not, that response would have been exactly what would have been THE PC response to give. She wasn't rude, belittling, or bashing.... she just shared her personal belief and didn't attempt to impose it on others, and didn't attempt to make him look or feel stupid.

To call him "most unkind" is truly a PC understatement of the week. He was foul, vile, hate-spewing, intolerant, and a disgusting jerk. Let's not hold back here... lol.
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Anyone watch Celebrity Apprentice? He was on that as a judge for Trump to help choose a winning team. Doesn't Trump own the Miss USA pageant?
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Perez Hilton is a twit & Donald Trump is an even bigger one for giving him a semi-respectable forum to spout his ill-mannered, snippy, nasty, obnoxious self.
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Perez Hilton is a twit & Donald Trump is an even bigger one for giving him a semi-respectable forum to spout his ill-mannered, snippy, nasty, obnoxious self.
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And like somebody else said, Perez Hilton does very little to help his cause. I think he actually hurts the gay community. I'm pretty neutral on the whole gay marriage thing. . .but it's really painful to watch somebody that is supposedly preaching tolerance being so completely intolerant. BUT you can bet that Trump is thrilled that the Miss Universe pageant has a thread like this on every message board on the net. Like I said before. .. I think the whole thing was contrived. . .and poor Miss CA was a pawn in the scheme. Shame on them!
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I disagree. As Miss USA is an ambassador to the entire country, all answers should be unbiased and there were ways that she could have answered without stating her own beliefs and how she was raised. Though there is nothing wrong with owning your opinions a better answer would have been something like, that will be up to our federal government to decide and I feel as if they will make the right decision...or something along those lines.

There is no way Perez Hilton could have set her up because he had a question to which ever contestant chose him. It was a great question as it is a hot topic right now and I do feel as if that answer cost her the crown and deservedly so.
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It was a great question as it is a hot topic right now and I do feel as if that answer cost her the crown and deservedly so.
I disagree that it was a great question.

If they want contestants who can check their own thoughts at the door, then they need to ask questions like, "Of all the colors in the flag, which is your favorite, and why?"
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That question has no relevance to our country or it's people. Asking about gay marriage however is completely relevant and our Miss USA will be a role model to all people. Gay or straight, black or white, male or female, etc...
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Seriously - that question, if answered with complete neutrality - would cause people on either side of the issue to check their own thoughts and beliefs at the door. She probably doesn't think the federal government will make the right decision.

If they only want milk toast answers, then they need to ask only milk toast questions.
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A cheesecake contest is no place for questions like this. You don't ask beauty contestants political questions and you don't ask Nancy Pelosi or Rush Limbaugh to put on a bikini or a speedo.
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A cheesecake contest is no place for questions like this. You don't ask beauty contestants political questions and you don't ask Nancy Pelosi or Rush Limbaugh to put on a bikini or a speedo.
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That question has no relevance to our country or it's people. Asking about gay marriage however is completely relevant and our Miss USA will be a role model to all people. Gay or straight, black or white, male or female, etc...
I think it was a perfectly legitimate question -- but I certainly wouldn't want my daughter to look to someone like Miss USA as a role model for anything -- except for how to win a beauty contest, perhaps.
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Why was Mr Hilton a judge?!?!?!
Good for you Miss California!!!
YOU answered the question and that's that!!
I also agree that the question should not have been asked if the Miss USA board did not want some controversy.
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Originally Posted by pepperpot View Post
She answered correctly and should have won the pagent.
I don't know if I'd go that far.

She shouldn't have been penalized for her opinion. Her answer was far from eloquent though,and had that been the reason stated for why she lost, then fine. But Perez has gone around bashing her, calling her names, and saying that she lost because of her views.
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