This lady is really not very smart. The same lady who labeled returing vets as possible extremists is now upsetting the Canadians.

http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-p...tml?id=1520295

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The milennium bomber entered from Canada. We are vulnerable from that border. It would also be fairly easy to enter either coast be sea. If we did anything to protect our borders since 2001, I am not aware of it.

I do know how Chertoff got his job.

Those pesky Canadians
Unfortunately, I think this is just the tip of the iceberg.

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"We must love them both--those whose opinions we share and those whose opinions we reject. For both have labored in the search for truth, and both have helped us in the finding of it."
Saint Thomas Aquinas

I've been a citizen of Arizona most of my life. She's made such a financial mess in this state, record deficits, went thru the surplus when she took office, I could go on and on. I was thrilled when she got her promotion to get her out of here so the cleanup of her mess could begin. Only problem is that in her current position our security is screwed. Now ask me how I really feel.

Laurie

In defense of Janet Napolitano, and I'll admit, I'm not up on the issues, but she was sworn as recently as January. When you are the head of an organization, all the good work you do goes unnoticed, but let something go wrong. This lady is in charge of an organization that employs a large number of people. Many of the policies/programs she oversees were already in place when she arrived.
She's probably still trying to wrap her brain around all the intricacies of how the organization works. I'm sure she doesn't know everyone by name, and she's certainly not signing off on every single piece of paper that passes into legislation. She got her job because of a resume and a political career that spoke for itself. She's done a lot of good, and somewhere along the line, she impressed the right people.
It angers me, too, when we vote to put people in office who say they'll vote the way we want them to, but once they've got the office, it's a different story ...
I'll stop here and step off the soap box ...

Yeah, but she's is on a roll lately. First with the changing terrorism to "man made disasters", then claiming just about anyone that did not like the size of the federal government or was former military should be looked at closely as a possible terrorist (or man made disaster artist?), and now Canada is as large a threat as Mexico??

I don't understand why they would pick a govenor for this position as opposed to someone with a background in law enforcement or the military? What does she know about protecting our borders from possible terrorists? She's an embarrassment.

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In Arizona she started out I believe as a US Attorney prosecuting border issues. The only reason she wanted to be govenor was to put herself in line to Washington. She has always wanted McCain's senate seat. She didn't get it but something better. She was lousy with border issues here and didn't do a darn thing in a border state to help stem the problems. She's not from small town America who found herself in this position, she was the govenor of the state which has the fifth largest city in the US and major border issues. She was in that position several years so she certainly doesn't lack experience, just class. Ok now I'm off my soapbox.

Laurie

The word terrorism invokes fear. All disasters invoke fear. Terrorism is a tactic used by those with small numbers who want to impart a specific emotion; fear. We need to face this threat rationally.

As far as law enforcement goes, I would have to say that that is pretty much all that the job of attorney general entails. She was a US Attorney for Arizona.

I cannot speak to her record as governor; I'm just not familiar with it. I am not aware of any state that does not have a serious deficit problem right now. I know that the Phoenix area had an awful lot of bubble real estate caused by speculation. I also read about one mortgage company that did nothing but fraudulent loans.

At least she can say that Arizona isn't as bad as California, Florida or Michigan.

Uh.. yeah! That was my point I guess. My brother is a prosecuting attorney. . .doesn't mean he knows a darn thing about security! He knows the law. . .but I wouldn't call him if somebody was threatening me with a gun or holding me hostage. . .duh! She's a hack. . .plain and simple. Have you seen her? The only thing I know for sure is that she didn't get her current position though sexual favors. It was purely a political choice. . and a bad one at that. You will NEVER convince me that there wasn't a police chief, military official, FBI or CIA person that wasn't waaaaay more qualified for her post.

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- George Orwell Animal Farm

Do you mean "fear" like when they tell us the economy is in the sh*tter unless we go through with these outrageous bailouts? The ones where these banks now get to take the TARP money and create other corps to buyout the bad debt. . .then fold those and actually make money for the "good" bank??? That this is like the Great Depression, even though the numbers aren't even close. That kind of fear???

And come on. .. "man made disasters" is just a euphemism. We are talking symantics here! Where is George Carlin when we need him? Face it! Al Qaeda is in the business of creating "terror"! "Disaster" implies misfortune. .. accident. Terrorism is NO accident! It's like calling gang violence "misguided youth incidences". Sorry.. I'm going to call b*llsh*t when I see it. . and this is b*llsh*t!

Maybe I should have said "security" when I said law enforcement. . that's what I meant. . .NOT a lawyer, but somebody that actually knows how to "protect". She obviously doesn't know a thing about that! But I guess now that she has labeled our returning vets, the ones who actually risk their lives to protect our country, as possible terrorists, she probably doesn't have much respect or ground to stand on with the folks that are actually on the front lines protecting you and I and our freedoms.

I stand by what I said. . .she is an embarrassment and won't last long! She's not even smart enough to realize that most of the folks working for her came directly from the military. My ex is a Homeland Security Officer. . .and a vet. They don't care for her much. Just saying. . .

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- George Orwell Animal Farm

At this point in time, I have no idea how Chertoff handled the job. I only know that he spent an awful lot of money remodelling his offices. I understand that the GAO was unable to audit Homeland Security because no one bothered to keep any records. The only time that I ever saw Chertoff in action was in connection with Katrina. That didn't look very good.

I do not think that it's wise to pass judgement on someone who has held office for only 3 months. I rather think that there is a big mess to clean up.

I guess, for the record, I'd like to know how long, in your opinion, we are supposed to give her.

The amount of time you take is meaningless if your mind is welded shut.

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Spoken by the most open-minded and tolerant person I have ever met on the world wide web....

She has done nothing so far that indicates incompetence.

Truble is right. You have already made up your mind, likely before she ever took office. % minutes was enough time for you to judge her.

Do you really want me to take the time to dig up posts from eight years ago in which the lefties here had already decided the Bush administration was responsible for any and all Clinton holdover issues they had to deal with from the minute they stepped into their offices and popped the W keys back on their keyboards?

I've got a busy day today but can take the time if you really need me to.

For the record, I do think new administrations should be given time to be fully informed about every detail and to get their feet wet before we start criticizing their every move. I haven't followed her long enough to have any strong opinions. I do, however, think it was unwise of her to put a list 'out there' like she did that painted vets in the light that it did. While I understand that the same personality quirks that can draw someone to violent behaviors would draw them to the military, where you get to shoot guns and drive big machines and destroy stuff, I think the same can be said for the super-eco weirdos... and they didn't make the list. The list did seem to be skewed towards the wacko-types that are viewed as being part of the non-mainstream-right, but not so much the non-mainstream-left.

And there are plenty of wacko-extremists on the non-mainstream-left.

As was pointed out by hambirg in another thread, when it was highlighted that the Craigslist killer was a Republican, that the family that died at the hands of the dad - the one where the mom's blog still sits there for us to read - that family was into the Eastern religion/Buddhist scene, ecology, no-animal-testing, and the like.

I'll never understand what profiling is okay and what isn't. I just believe, firmly, that the list you make up shouldn't be a politicized list once you're serving the public good.

Thank you.

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Except, Clinton's people didn't take the W keys off the typewriters. It never happened. And, here you are believing a falsehood for more than 8 years.

So you concur with everything else I said?

This is what the GAO said of Clinton's departure and the wake left at the White House:

Soooooo, good buddy, I guess I'm gonna need a link from ya....

I do not concur with anthing you said.

Did you mean this GAO report? U.S. GAO - The White House: Allegations of Damage During the 2001 Presidential Transition
The one that hints at allegations made by Bush staffers? (Iknow that they did put a sign on the door to the oval office labelled "Office of Strategery")

Try reading the whole thing. There were supposedly 4 items missing. Clinton staffers said they weren't there when they got there. There was some damage but that was done when moving out. Bush staffers also said they left too much trash behind.

They hit the ground running with lies and never quit.

I read plenty enough to know that the Clinton staffers pulled a lot of shenanigans.

I really don't know why this is worth arguing about. I think the "W" thing was not all that destructive, cheap to fix, and had I been there I probably would have gotten a chuckle out of walking in and seeing what they had done. The other alleged things.... not as funny.

I really don't doubt the "W" thing happened. The media was so anti-Bush even from the beginning that if the new Bush staffers had done it, they'd have pounced on the opportunity to share that with America. They were still pretty sad about the recounts and not all that eager to embrace "W" themselves.

This won't be the first time that facts fail to overide a rumor.