Hopefully it's just gossip.

The internet rumor mill has been busy with reports that Jon Gosselin, father of eight and star of TLC’s “Jon & Kate Plus 8,” is cheating on his wife Kate. Us magazine is reporting that Jon was caught leaving Legends Lounge near his home with another woman. Kate is currently promoting her new book, “Eight Little Faces” in Washington.

A source at the lounge told Us that Jon “could barely walk” when he left the place at 2 a.m. and that he referred to the woman as “babe.”

He was reportedly overheard yelling, “Hey, babe! Babe! Give me my jacket!” Once he noticed cameras snapping his picture he left in a hurry, Us reports.

In an e-mail sent to the magazine, Jon wrote that she was just a friend who wanted to drive his car so he let her. “Yes, I have female friends—but that’s all she is. I’m not going to end my friendships just because I’m on TV.” There has been no response from Kate or TLC.

Jon has been denying the rumors and recently told the Ladies Home Journal that he’s never cheated on Kate. “Kate and I are together,” he said. In the season finale of their show, the couple admitted they are going through a rough patch and that Jon is having a hard time dealing with his fame. Despite expressing his concern about returning for a fifth season, TLC announced that the show will return.

People have been quick to comment on the recent report. The majority say they are not surprised that he may be cheating, calling Kate “controlling” and writing that it’s apparent on the show that the couple has become distant. Others comment that Jon should grow up and think about his children and realize marriage is not easy.

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I hope he isn't cheating, but I really think that if he feels as powerless as he appears to be on the show then he'd probably do that to get out of the marriage rather than just face off with Kate. She's a piece of work..

I wonder who was babysitting all the kids? Kate needs to chill and Jon needs to get some balls! lol

Might be tired of being treated like he seems to be on the show. I quit watching even thoguh those type shows arnt for me anyway but she always seemed to be talking down to him instead of with him. On their story she kinda tricked him to get the last injection<?> that got them all the kids.

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I wouldnt blame him if he did. She is sooooo rude to him on t.v. My hubby would have left yrs ago if I treated him half as bad as she does him. I wonder if the reason he dont leave is just think how she would treat him if he did leave.and just think of the child support payments!
There is a forum on the net where people discuss these types shows and someone posted awhile back that the directors of this show had been showing her what other wives have been saying about her and she didnt see that she was being rude to him at all.

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For once I am going to mind my own buisiness.

I've only seen 2 episodes of this show and my first thought was "Wow. She is a class A B!tch to her husband" I even said something to my SIL (who chose the channel and show) and she didn't seem to think it was a big deal, but she treats her husband, (my DH's brother) in a very similar fashion.

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Im gonna go out on a limb here & say he probably is & who would blame him I love the show but she is a B no doubt about it!!!!

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What?
He didn't get any injection, she would get the injection. He just had to shoot into a cup. Kind of hard to trick someone into doing that.

Anyhoo, as I have said before, they are both pimps living off the backs of their children. Sadly, we will have to wait for the Mommie Dearest books to learn the extent of the damage.

Those poor babies.

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I may be the odd man out here (I usually am in regards to how I perceive issues) but how does her being a b1tch make it allright for him to cheat? What happened to "in sickness & in health, richer or poorer", etc.? I can't abide cheaters for any reason. If his marriage is that intolerable for him then get counseling or talk it out with Kate. And perhaps she needs to stay home instead of galavanting promoting her show and book

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I agree. If the marriage is intolerable, get a divorce, then see someone else. I don't watch the show, so I can't comment on her bitchiness but I don't think there's a good reason to cheat. Ever. Divorce is always an option.

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I have watched the show many times and totally agree that Kate is a B.... all the way, Jon seriously needs to grow a backbone, he barely gets to say anything, Kate totally dominates every question. HOwever in my personal view there is never ever ever a reason to cheat. Plain and simple its againist your marriage vows and plainly speaking you just cannot cheat. However if your unhappy and their is no love or hope and you have tried counciling then for the sake of all concerned you should divorce. Tessa like you I totally agree those poor kids when will it end. From the moment they were tiny babies their personal lifes have been displayed for the whole world to see. I seriously hope there will not be another season. Peace. Catherine

The way I see them as two completely different personalities. He seems more quiet, reflective, and laid-back. Kate is assertive, outspoken, controlling, and anal (hate that word) about everything. Their differences have everything to do with their compatibility. If there is a downfall, it is constantly being in the public eye. It really would strain any relationship. I know, they signed up for it.

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Crittles your 100 percent correct about the two of them... I am sure many people loved to watch the show just to see how they do play out their personal lives for us. Personally I could not take it anymore and so I choose not to watch the show and again for the sake of all concerned I sincerely hope they do not commit to any more shows enough in enough. Let this family get on with their lives as Kate ends the beginning of the show and says but its our life..So it should be and no more public viewing of this families personal every day to day moments.... Peace... Catherine

I saw the pic in US magazine, and boy does Jon look guilty- some kind of cross between guilt and horror. Between this incident and the college girl incident, I would say their marriage is definitely in crisis. If their family is their first priority, I would think they would walk away from the spotlight (and the cash) and work on their relationship- one way or the other.

If family were really their first priority, I doubt they'd be doing the show in the first place! How can it be good for any marriage to have cameras around all the time? Remember the Loud family way back when?

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I don't watch the show that much, but recently saw an interview where Jon said he had wanted to stop being on tv, but agreed to sign on for this season because Kate still wanted to do the show. He said something like, he just wants to be himself 'but I can't just be Jon, I have to be Jon and Kate plus eight'

Anyway even though she comes across as bitchy and might be...that's no excuse for cheating, hopefully they can work stuff out for the sake of all those children!

Very good point! And I watched the Louds back in the day....that was quite the show wasn't it??

Let's remember that this is TV. And while it may look like "reality"--a lot of what you see has been edited. And will be edited to creat the most audience interest and drama.

I don't watch the show. But, I can tell you this: in the absence of physical and/or mental abuse, a failed marriage is usually the fault of both. Cheating is not acceptable for any reason. While divorce may not be scripted into the "reality" show, it is an option.

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Honestly I lost respect for them when they cancelled the appearance my church had scheduled for them. They wanted to cut down on away time from the family but I see they are still holding other engagements. I hope that John is not cheating but if he or she is that unhappy they really need to either work on their marriage or end it.

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Combine their odd relationship with the fact that he's now wealthy, and therefore attractive to a faction of the female public who wouldn't look twice at him if he were a working-class father of 8, and it's a recipe for disaster.

No doubt it's former Pres Bush's fault.

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Too funny!!!

I guess it's time to rename the show Jon and Kate Plus Nine

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You see Deddlastt you simply think its so funny once again my point proven you simply cannot leave me alone. So many other people posted here but once again it was my post you choose to pick and make fun at. What a true trouble maker once again proven over and over. Kindly find something better to do with your time.... Pathetic and sad this post has nothing to do with Bush... Sorry op sincerely sorry... Peace to all others... Catherine

You are right - this thread had nothing to do with Bush. I just got ahead of you dragging him in where he doesn't belong.

The Air Force 1 flyover thread ALSO had NOTHING to do with Bush until you inserted him.

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The first person the bring up Bush was KTS in post 5, then again in post 14, way before ILL posted.

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I didn't say ill was the 1st to drag him in. Maybe she was napping? I don't know.

Ok, I went back to look. Each was a 1 liner, and I take #5 to be funny.

The difference is ill frequently drags him in negatively and piddles on and on and on and on. Again, Bush had nothing to do with the AF1 flight.

Please enlighten me if I am missing what Bush had to do with the AF1 flight.

dl

I know that, just that she wasn't the first to, uh, "insert" him

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dl

I didn't bring up Bush in this thread.

Correct, this time dl inserted him.

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Okay, no time for derailment.


I read somewhere that the new house Jon and Kate moved into was 1.3 million. I wonder if they must keep doing the show to help pay for that. Did the network help them come up with the $$$ for the new home?

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Doesn't anyone remember the earliest episodes?
He said that until she came into his life he had no direction, and the thing he liked most about her was how she gave him direction. Perhaps this reads to other folks as K being a bee-yotch, I can certainly see that, but not necessarily so.
There are most certainly in this world very passive aggressive types, this is how I have come to tag Jafter watching the show. (rolling his eyes behind her back, not confronting her when he was Po'd at her but talking to others about his beefs, etc.)
I have been married for 32+ years to a type like Jon. My DH has become sooooo much better about confronting me w/his gripes in the past years, but only because *I* have forced him outta his passive/aggressive shell. We love each other dearly, are *more* than looking forward to a time when all the kids are on their own and we can enjoy each others' company more often and alone.
It took a whole lot of working through things in the first 2 decades (that were fraught w/challenges many of y'all couldn't, or wouldn't want to, imagine).
I think (perhaps only hope? because I hate to see marriages breaking up) J&K will eventually work things out and be fine. Kids are a very big factor in whether or not anyone has the impetus to keep on keepin' on.
Someone earlier mentioned how different the 2 were, and I have found, both in my own marriage and what I have observed in other marriages, this is the thing that keeps things fresh and new and exciting and equally as much exasperating.
K *has* to be as organized and *anal* as possible in order to keep the larger than average household running smoothly. Do we have anyone posting here who has larger than average fams? If so, please weigh in!
I do have a larger than average fam, not through birth or fertility enhancements, but through adoption.
But be that as it may, DH and I always considered the possibilities before we ever added a to the fam. And there *were* times when we added more than one at a time and went through all the possible consequences of doing so. J&K didn't expect 6 at one time, but I feel (purely my slanted opinion) that they've done the best they could under the circumstances. I mean really - how could they have expected so many kids at one time when the odds were against such an occurrence?
Any marriage, with or w/out kids, with or without unexpected amounts of kids, *will* go through trials.
I view their doing the show as a way to financially secure their future expenses w/so many kids and I do not fault them for it. From what I have seen on the show, the kids and K seem well adjusted w/it all, it's J that is having the difficulties adjusting to it all. I have sympathy for him, it can't be easy to go from being a normal 9-5 guy to a media icon.
I can understand the strain that J is under having cameras in his home 3 days a week.
I also think he needs to grow some cajones about the entire situation and let his wife know when enough is enough for his own welfare. And seeing as *his* mental health and welfare is a driving force for his fam, I hope he will do just that.
I feel less sympathy for him than I do for K because he is (at least to moi-self) the weaker partner emotionally. It seems to me that she has been forced to make many more serious decisions about the fam's future than he has. Again, just MNSHO. And *she's* the one taking the majority of the flak. How many times times have we, either on this board or in other places, seen her referred to as a bee-yotch whilst he's been portrayed as a poor and long suffering soul?
How many of us posting on this site can say that their husbands would go to the lengths that we, as mothers would and do, to ensure the stability of our fams?
Give K&J a break, they are just an ordinary fam living in extraordinary circumstances.
If any of us found ourselves in the position that K&J found themselves in, can any of us truly say we wouldn't have gone the reality TV route in order to secure the financial future of the fam? I think I may have gone that route, but not ever having been in their shoes I don't think I can judge them.

Well said Momzilla, I certainly wouldn't have wanted to be in either of their shoes. I can't IMAGINE what it would be like to cook, wash and clean up after all those kids that close together in age. Good grief, how would you even factor in time for the nuturing part of raising kids. We all know that in MOST - note I did say nost - families all the daily stuff for little kids is left to the mom. I like the show, i guess because I can't imagine how anyone could survive that much responsibility.

kate is in it for the money. She can still stay at home with the kids. She gets the big house and the finer things in life. I think that if they didn't sign up for another year, they would not go anywhere because most of that is paid for by the show. They also would probably loose thier house because I am sure his salary could not pay for it. She is very demanding and talks down to him terribly. She knows it, she is just that type of person that is alway right and does not want to admit fault. I think if the cameras were out of the house, it would be "shell shock" for the kids. They are so used to these same people there, they are like family to them.

I'm sure Kate's in it for the money, but don't you think Jon is, too? Why would anyone do this if it wasn't for either fame or fortune?

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Agreed truble - isn't that why people do this sort of thing? Surely people don't think it's for the educational value....

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Yes, I think that they are in it for the money too, especially since their lifestyle has recently been upgraded with the move. If you ask Kate, though, she would say that she is creating memories and a diary for her children. They probably realize that you must strike when the iron is hot. They most likely will not be doing this show in a year or two, when their audience becomes bored.

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From what the show shows of Kate I don't blame him one bit!!

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I do.

If he's that unhappy he needs to file for divorce, not screw around with other women.

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Agreed! Isn't it funny that the person who said they don't blame him for Cheating (if, in fact he is) their screen name is "I love my church"? Usually churches frown on adultery... Just a thought.

Never ever should there be a reason to cheat. Again if your not happy, not in love and have tried all means to make a marriage work. Then get a divorce and then start a new relationship or fool around all you want, you cannot if your married no way no how..again my personal views.... Catherine

I totally agree.

There is absolutely no excuse for cheating in a marriage. Period.

There used to be a site where the neighbors of them posted their thoughts and most of them said she is a bit&^ in real life too. ( not sure what the site was cause I lost my bookmarks thanks to lightening )These neighbors lived near them before they were given the huge house. There was many many posts saying how glad they were that she was moving, the crew that was always parked around wouldnt be there anymore and they didnt have to listen to her yell at Jon when they were outside. There was also alot of them posting about her hiring baby sitters in the area ( teenagers) and wanting to pay them 3.00 a hr to watch all of the kids. no way would I let my dd babysit all those kids for 3.00 a hr.They posted that she did in fact have a cleaning service that came weekly and cleaned their house and a laundry service that they saw parking in front of the house and carrying out lots of bags so she dont do all the laundry. I think she does some on the show to try and seem like she does everything. Also the neighbor who was living right beside them said there was a catering service that came 3 times a week and brought food so she didnt have to cook so much. This was supposely free of charge to them, the show footed the bill. Just like the show foots the bill for all the trips they take and such. If it wasnt for the show, they wouldnt be traveling around all over the place promoting books or going on vacation. So yes, I think they are in it for the money. She can claim she is making memories for her kids, but I have to ask, how many of you guys believe that? I sure dont.
as for him leavin, how in the world would he ever pay child support for all those kids? And I dont know if he slept with anyone else or not, but I have to wonder if he just wants the company of a lady who will talk to him and not treat him like a 3 yr old all the time.

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I can understand how he feels. At the end of my first marriage, I never actually physically cheated, but I suppose on an emotional level I did. Not something I'm proud of, but when you are in a situation where you are made to feel worthless, you sometimes need to be reminded that you do have worth, before you can get enough self esteem back to actually develop the kahunas to leave your current situation. I don't watch the show, but from what I've heard about how Kate treats him, it sounds like that is the situation.

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That's exactly what I was getting at.

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Good point/post, hambirg. None of us can really walk a mile in another's shoes and it's always hard to know what we'd do if we did.

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