Yikes. I'm surprised they would pick that song to play. Whenever I hear that I think of school shootings. Such a big venue, so many songs to choose from, etc.... I remember alot of radio stations refused to play Van Halens "Jump" for a long time after 911. I do like the song though, just thought they could open with a different one. Oh well. I think Chris is going although I could be surprised and Danny might leave.

I missed it completely - what was the opening number?

I remember when our local 80's station wouldn't play "Jump". I think that continued for a couple of years.

I love the song but it was that Schools Out Forever song - it's the line where they say "school's been blown to pieces" that made me cringe.

"School's Out"

oohh...yeah, they probably should've thought about that!

I didn't make the connection at all. I was enjoying watching them sing (especially Adam and Allison).

Why wouldn't they play "Jump"?

We don't have any 80's type stations around here anymore. There used to be one that played 80's and one that did Friday Night 80's, but they're long gone. I have heard "Jump" played on a few rock stations in the last couple years, but I have no idea if it was taboo for a while or not.

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Because people were jumping off the Twin Towers. Lyrics such as "might as well jump", "go ahead and jump" were not appropriate around that time.

Oh gosh. That never would have occurred to me! But when such a tragedy happens, I can understand why it might not be played.

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I see nothing wrong with them singing that song. I can't see not playing Jump, either. I mean....it is not about that.

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Jump would have been very disturbing if you had lost a relative in 911 or were a witness to the devastation. Of course it's not about that but if you lost loved ones and you kept hearing "go ahead and jump" it could be very disconcerting at least in the initial months that followed. Unfortunately it's what I think of whenever I hear that song even now. Same thing with Schools Out. Heck I remember hearing that song on the last day of high school but whenever I hear the part about schools been blown to pieces it reminds me of Columbine. No need to ban them- they are good songs but I'm sure they hit some nerves with some people that have suffered from these tragedies.

I agree. Not playing those songs, for those reasons, seems silly to me. I've never heard of a ban on either of those songs. Guess I just missed it.

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I live near Virginia Tech and my nephew was working on campus during the Cho shootings. Never once have I thought about 'Schools Out' being associated with school shootings.

I must have missed it too. Jump????Really????? I mean, really????? Jump???? School's Out????? Seriously? Schools Out?????

What about "The Roof, the roof, the roof is on fire?".

Or "War" or "Good Day for a Revolution?"

Sounds like something someone made up somewhere to take offense to something. Even if it was true, which I don't really think it was, are we supposed to stop playing certain songs for the rest of our natural born lives?

I can think of many more things to be upset about.

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I was wondering the same thing, Why worry about that when theres songs<?> out now that's worse. and apparently being a 80's teen i was in the dark about the schools out song.

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I believe lots of stations stopped playing those for awhile too. One of the major radio conglomerates put out a list of songs they didn't want their stations playing for a time period after 9/11. It was a pretty long list, some were understandable but some were just silly.

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Nope completely true, I did a search and found the list, it was put out by Clear Channel.

2001 Clear Channel memorandum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Yep, I just googled the list and lots of them were pretty silly. I do understand "jump" though since tv stations kept playing video of those poor people jumping from the towers. My ds understands the correlation between School's Out and school shootings. I'm not saying either of these songs refer to those instances just that they do bring up memories for some people. Not wanting any of them banned or anything just bringing something up.

Yep there are tons of songs that bring up memories for different people. There are probably many songs that bring back bad memories for Vietnam War vets. However, at the time 911 happened, when our country was mourning, I'm glad they temporarily watched the lyrics of songs so as to not make it harder for some people.

>>>Nope completely true, I did a search and found the list, it was put out by Clear Channel.<<<


Not exactly, according to Snopes:

snopes.com: Clear Channel Banned Songs

I didn't say they were banned, I said Clear Channel requested that their stations not play some songs for a period of time. Which is true.

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Yes, I'm not quite sure what the Snopes cite did except support exactly what you said.

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jenh22 - mea culpa, my mistake.

I'd rather listen to "School's Out" than "If U Seek Amy"

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It's ok, it was even more confusing when it was going on.

Lots of people thought the songs were really banned.
Some stations didn't play the songs and some people boycotted those stations for censorship.
Some stations played all the songs in protest and some people boycotted them for being insensitive.
Some people thought the government was behind the list.

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Whew....thought I was the only one. I was very affected by 911 and any school shootings, but those songs are not tied in any way.

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Maybe we should just shut down all the radio stations. That song about Christmas Shoes always brings a tear to my eye because my mother died from cancer. How about "if I could dance with my father again"? Almost any song will touch somebody in some way. I remember a neighbor of mine not listening to the radio for months after her divorce because so many songs made her cry.

Obviously, I think the whole thing is silly. I guess I'm just a realist. Life goes on.

Totally agree. Dance with my father....oh, I can't listen to it. I change the station, though. Wild world, by Cat Stevens makes me think of how grown up my 21 year old daughter is now and I sob when I hear it........To Sir with Love reminds me of my 5th grade teacher that is gone now.....I start to cry at the first note. I could go on......It is very silly.

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Some stations wouldn't play "Jump"!?!...seems silly, that song is from the 80's... way back-when people hear it I think it brings up that persons memories...I would not have ever put it togather with jumping out of a building.
And as far as the OLD Alice Cooper song "schools out" are you kidding? that song is older than dirt and has nothing to do with school shootings, they didn't do that crap back then!
This is as silly as "If you seek Amy" stuff...drama!

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Well whenever I hear "schools out" and I love that song I think of school shootings. Maybe it's because I've had teenage boys that would point that out and we would talk about it. Things like-wow that sure has new meaning when kids really do try to blow up their school now. Our high school had a bomb threat when my oldest was at school there. So maybe that's why we are sensitive to those lyrics. Like I said, I love that song, but times sure have changed since it was written.

They had bomb threats way back when I was in school, when that song was a hit, but I just never thought about that song. It just doesn't make sense to me.

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ok, so what does "schools been blown to pieces" mean?

Well, I can only guess, but Alice would know for sure. My point is, I never once thought that deeply about it and even when we had bomb threats and such, I just can't see expecting a song to be banned, not played, whatever, because some people might be reminded of something. Change the station!

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That would make the most sense, wouldn't it?

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Clear Channel denied the existence of such a list in a press release to a radio industry trade publication, Radio Ink, although they had already admitted to distributing


The end of the above wiki article was the above quote. It was a suggestion to their 1200 channels across the nation but then they later denied sending the list of songs....wonder why? Why, if they brought so many pain, did they deny sending out the list? Could it be that finally when they came to their senses realized that there was no correlation. That perhaps, they were being silly in their zeal to make things better for those people who might be truamatized by 911. However, I cannot for the life of me see the correlation between those songs and the 911. I was too busy listening to the great songs played after......America the Beautiful, My Country Tis of Thee. All those songs about Patriotism. I still don't associate the song Jump with leaping off the towers. Or jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge or the shootings at Columbine. I guess my mind doesn't tick like that....seems like lots of us don't have a mind like that since so many had to ask ??????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...C_2001_attacks

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LOL! I just don't get these things.

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Although I'm participating in this discussion, can't we just drop it now? Honestly, didn't remember that particular line in the song. There are much worse songs out today that say much worse things. Do you know what's on your kid's ipod, or what they listen to at a friend's house? Do we really have to dwell on it?

It's just a discussion and it's been pretty civil....

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WTH?
Actually I do know what's on my kids' Ipod. And I'm relatively certain I know that they are listening to at a friend's house (since I know the parents). But all that aside: What in the blue hell are you talking about? No one seemed to be snarky, no one seemed upset, everyone seemed to be having civil discourse....care to enlighten us as to what you're bent out of shape about???

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Now I've been singing that song in my head all day-it's stuck!!! I'm not saying it should be banned at all. I'm just pointing out that in light of events that have happened SINCE the release of those songs it might bring up bad memories. This is not a post about banning songs, etc... I was just surprised that of all the songs in Slash's list they chose that one. Like I said, I like both Jump and Schools Out and I was just making an observation. It's not a critique of their music, a request for a ban or anything like that. Just pointing out some thoughts. No need for anyone to get exctied.