Just read about this. He apparently disclosed the secret bunker where Dick Cheney hid after the 9/11 attacks.

This guy really needs to have his lips sewn shut. He also told everyone during the Swine Flu outbreak that he advised his family not to fly or travel, or something like that.....good grief

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And he's next in line for the presidency??? And then Pelosi??? God help us!!!!

Three stooges?

It's a surprise that there's a secured room at the Vice President's home??? Really, that doesn't seem just obvious to people?

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So, are you saying it's OK what he did?

No, it did not seem obvious to me. Under the White House, yes. I'm sure VP Biden will let us know for sure, tho.

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Revealing something that anyone with common sense already knew? Yeah, I think that's ok.

And since it's no longer being used as a hideaway, I really don't see what the issue is.

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The issue is mulit-faceted. For starters, again you dance (albeit a clumsy dance) around what aia states, with a weak try at diversionary tactics.

IF it had been Palin disclosing this, you would have been all over hammering her with a rumba. This isn't even a party lines thing. It's a common sense thing in that you don't divulge that kind of information, whether it is being used, could be used, will be used, or was being used.

Keep your day job, a political analyst you are not.

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Geee thanks Captain Obvious...no one would ever think to look in the basement of someone's home for a bunker...HAHAHA! How stupid, that would only be the first place the enemy would look! *rolls eyes at how stupid people are*!

It is true that Truble neither follows Faux news nor Rush. Sometimes, I imagine it is as hard for Truble as it is for me to follow the GOP "thinking" process.

To counter a statement with a factual statement (it's not a "bunker" anymnore) is neither diversionary nor dancing around.

Everyone knows that there are bunkers under the White House. Everone knows that there are bunkers at Langley. It stands to reason that the vice president's residence would have some sort of safety features. Cheney was well known for his paranoia.

I assume that you know that the Biden's are using this former "safe" room as a guest bedroom now. I assume that you have somehow used this fact to feel less personally secure (everything seems to instil irrational fear in you people)
So be it.

I am happy to know that the grown ups are now in charge.

To me it makes sense that a "bunker" be very nearby in case of emergency and of course they were used during the 9/11 attacks.

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LOL!
Pres. Bush, VP Cheney and ex-SOH Hastert.
I know you did not mean them, but that's who I thought of when I read that. Too funny.

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Whoa. I had not heard that.
Personally I don't care where Cheney was. But telling the location is not good at all, IMO. I don't think that's something we need to know or have confirmed.

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And IF it had been Palin. Your post would have read something like...
“What's the big deal? Anyone with half a brain would know that there would be a secure room at the Vice President's home….”

Of course it’s a “party lines thing”, it’s another non-issue for right-wingers to pretend outrage over.

Ditto

Amen to that!

OK....Biden suffers from hoof-in-mouth disease. He's made several verbal boo-boos. There are a lot of things that I "presume" about security and such as it pertains to the President and/or the staff. But, to have those assumptions confirmed could pose an issue.

For example: Having been a 911 dispatcher here, I know the code phrases and words that a bank is suppose to say when called if their alarms are triggered. Those phrases/words indicate whether the alarm is false in nature or whether the bank is being robbed. Now, I'm sure someone can probable "guess" or assume what some of those phrases/words are. But, boy, if the prospective bank robber had confirmation of what the codes were?? Wow!

Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're an idiot, than open your mouth and remove all doubt that you are an idiot...

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Not to be mean to anyone however I have to ask this simple question:

Why do we care about something like this??

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They have nothing for either house of Congress which seems odd to me. They used to have a huge complex in the W. Virginia mountains but abandoned it long ago.

Bush didn't use a bunker on 9/11, but I heard that Cheney and his staff used the one at the White House. That was no secret.

No need for secrecy with the Veep's residence either.

Gotta disagree with you here. Palin has had quite a few allegation of impropriety thrown at her in the last few months. None of us have even brought any of these allegations up.

Also, did you mean rhumba or roomba. Spelling matters.

Cheney is the one who revealed his whereabouts on 9/11. Why is it bad?

Oh my, you're right. I found this:

Tim Russert, Dick Cheney, and 9/11 by Prof. David Ray Griffin « Dandelion Salad

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Why does this matter? Because Biden seems to have a big mouth, says inappropriate things and he is next in line to the presidency if something would happen to Obama. That is a big deal.

SSSHHH! Are you mad, revealing these state secrets?

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Same problem, I guess, that Bush had with Cheney then. I remember reading about Cheney's whereabouts in the 9/11 report. Seems he also talked about it on Meet the Press.

Biden's comments on Swine Flu were no big deal. Nor were his comments about the special room that Cheney had at the vice president's residence.

It's just no big deal. If you were worried about malaprops, how could anyone vote for Bush once much less twice? Bush spent his terms with both feet in his mouth. You could at least try to be fair.

And pigs could try to fly, but I don't see it happening any time soon.

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May mean nothing to us, but our enemies love to know all the details.

Loose lips sink ships!

I don't know that there is a bunker under the White House. I don't know that there are bunkers at Langley. I don't know where any others might be. It is most likely they are in those places, and others, however as a regular citizen, I don't know that. I simply expect those in the know to act responsibly and know when to not disclose things.

You assume incorrectly that I know about a guest bedroom. I am a common citizen, as stated and not privvy to everything my tax dollars are paying for.

You lump me in with "you people" and I don't know what you mean since you don't know me. It boils down to, in this era of heightened security, acting responsibly. Even by disclosing where a bunker is, whether current or not, can pose a security threat.

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I am not a Republican nor Democrat, nor a right-winger and I don't pretend outrage. I made an obvious observation about posting style and then made a statement, nothing more, nothing less.

dl

Sorry, I did miss the h, I see you missed the s, those wicked mia letters !

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I think I finally see what you're saying. Let's see if I have it right. Whatever a Democrat says is bad for the country. Our enemies cannot put 2 and 2 together unless a Democrat opens their mouth and speaks first. If a Republican says something, it's noble and pure. Whatever a Republican says is patriotic, good for the country and helps to keep you safe.

For instance, when Cheney told everyone that he stayed in the bunker under the White House during 9/11, it was to let us know (and more importantly let our enemies know!) how brave and noble he was. Telling everyone that there is a bunker under the White House keeps us all safe.

So naturally, when Joe Biden told everyone that Cheney had made a safe room in the vice president's house but that he and Jill had converted it back to a guest bedroom, this gave aid and comfort to our enemies! It puts all of us ordinary Americans in mortal peril!

Loose lips sink ships! Three on a match! Goota go hide under the bed!

I don't think this "gaff" is really a big deal, I mean a bunker in his basement? Who would've thunk it!

That said, as much as I like Biden (and I really do) whenever I see him speaking on live T.V. I brace myself, because you just never know what's gonna come out of his mouth. Most of the times he just amuses me, but there's a slight concern over what he may say in the future. I think everyone's seen Obama give him the "STFU" look a few times before.

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I think it is WRONG when either party tells too much. I also think that the media tells too much.

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I don't think it's even a gaff.The GOP is going to make a big deal out of everything that he says.

I listened to him question someone that he obviously wasn't interested in questioning and all he did was ramble on about nonsense.The GOP does the same thing, though. However, I have seen him question someone on more important matters and he could not have been more astute. He's not stupid. And, for Washington, he's an awfully good person.

At this point I'm not even sure the account and subsequent relay of what he actually said are true.
White House Watch - Anatomy of a Myth
Reliable Source - Crossed Wires About VP Hide-Out

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I think you can find a bazillion different explanations for it. I do believe he had a bit of diarrhea of the mouth and said something he should not have. Just like with the travel/no travel comment, in regards to swine flu.

Biden’s Secret Bunker Revealed?

Vice President Joe Biden may have inadvertently revealed the location of his top-secret bunker. The Biden bunker remark came during a dinner in Washington, published reports indicate.

Biden Bunker Revelation
Joe Biden apparently discussed the secret bunker during a Gridiron Club dinner. Reports suggest the vice president described an emergency hiding spot beneath the official vice presidential home, the former U.S. Naval Observatory. The location is believed to be where Dick Cheney was taken in the days following the 9/11 attacks.

A story by Newsweek editor Eleanor Clift states that Biden said he was recently given a tour of the facility. It is “behind a massive steel door secured by an elaborate lock with a narrow hallway lined with shelves filled with communications equipment,” she writes.

“The officer explained that when Cheney was in lock down, this was where his most trusted aides were stationed, an image that Biden conveyed in a way that suggested we shouldn’t be surprised that the policies that emerged were off the wall,” Clift says.

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Sounds like the same room Cheney had already disclosed in the interview on MTP (cited above). Which, if that is the case, means Biden "revealed" nothing that was not already disclosed from Cheney himself.

Clift was not even at the table when the conversation happened. She is going by someone else's account, which has been questioned. Sounds like a case of the Telephone Game (which could be one of the bazillion different explanations you alluded to).

I agree that Biden has said things in the past that probaby should not have been spoken aloud. However, this particular instance is not (IMO) one of them.

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If Cheney revealed top secret information, you may rest assured that the Limbaugh lovers will tell you it was to benefit the nation, or that it wasn't top secret, or that it never happened at all.

You remember the name Plame, right?

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The room Cheney stated was below the White House, and underground. Some accounts on here, explaining what he said, have the "room in question" above the ground, as an add'l room.

Their are things you should and should not disclose/discuss. Sadly, I think Biden does not know the difference. I basically think he does not know what the proper things to say/discuss are, as has been evidenced over and over again, when he opens his mouth. You just wonder what he will say next

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Much like this situation, I have not found a clear cut explanation about Valerie Plame, either. I have read accounts that say her DH outted her, and the SHE outted herself some 10 years ago.

Why must you resort to name calling?? (Limbaugh Lovers, etc.) It really doesn't help your case. But, to each their own, huh?

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I see what you're saying, I just don't agree that he disclosed some secret location as has been suggested.
We know Cheney already disclosed where he was on 911. We know he said he was in an underground room below the White House.
Apparently, Biden was at some dinner with someone and described a room in the VP House (which may have or may have not been an office that has been turned into a guestroom). The person at the dinner table then mentioned a conversation w/ Biden in a club newsletter of some sort. Another reporter read the newsletter and then blogged about it, saying Biden revealed the secret 911 bunker!
How can he reveal a 'secret' that was already revealed years before?
Good point, and I agree, some things should not be said, especially considering Biden's position. I think the swine thing was an example of that. That said, I don't feel this was was one of them. In fact, perhaps Cheney is the one that should have the sensational headline of revealing the secret. He's the one that disclosed the info in the first place. I actually wonder what he will say next.

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I think the GOP should be renamed the CLP - The Chicken Little Party. Every little thing sends them into a panic. OMG! The sky is falling!

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"Why does this matter? Because Biden seems to have a big mouth, says inappropriate things and he is next in line to the presidency if something would happen to Obama. That is a big deal. " Perhaps people should have thought about that before they voted for that ticket...

I honestly think that we have other things to worry about then what Joe Biden says...

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What is the penalty for disclosing national secrets?

Do you really want to go there?

Why? Are you afraid of something? What's wrong with going there? The GOP is in shambles and they harp on the most ridiculous things to try to bolster the party.

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