I have recently had one involved in my life and I just don't get it. Really sick. Anyone had this misfortune?

I don't know what to make of people like this...my cousin and I were just discussing someone that I know that's like that. She concludes that they actually believe what they are saying and actually think that it's real. I don't know but to have someone actually tell you to your face an all out lie that you did something that you know 100% that you didn't ever do(obviously)...I mean that's just whackO! It leaves you scratching your head. And then I know another type liar that just tells outlandish stories like she always "one ups" you no matter what you have done, she's done it and WAY BETTER!

Not sure about pathological liars, but I have known addicts of various types (alcoholics in particular) that seem to lie so much that they no longer know what the truth is. It must be so hard to keep things straight for liars....you don't have to remember anything if you tell the truth (Mark Twain)

Sorry for what sounds like a bad experience for you, jovia!

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Yes, and my experience concurs (sp?) with what the others have said. The liar lives the lie(s) and can't tell the difference. They are convinced. Most of their stories are so far out there that I would think they'd wonder how people could believe them.

Then again, most people don't confront them because then they would be the bad guy. I have a real problem with this and just letting it go on and on. Everyone is the victim these days, albeit self made in so many cases, and the others are apathetic.

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YEP. Enough said.

Yes. My ex-SIL is a Compulsive liar - she just comulsively lies about things haphazardly with no real *end result* in sight. That was annoying but pretty easy to ignore. Then, several years ago, I met a woman who is a Pathological Liar. This woman is very, very sick. She *truly* believes that she used to be a Ford model, that she is Native American, that she used to be a nun, that she was instrumental in founding Head Start, the list goes on and on........... I realized very quickly that she had some serious problems and immediately distanced myself from her. What is sad to see is the amount of people who choose to enable her and her illness.

OH yeah absolutely...this is the case with the one person that I know...DON'T YOU DARE try and call them out on their lies because they are so good at what they do that they will have everyone believing they are the victim of YOU! Been there...done that! No sense in confronting them...you'll only get yourself into trouble and you will end up the bad guy!

I use to tell my oldest DD when she would tell me a lie and it would be so far out there. "you would rather tell a lie when the truth would sounds better".. I don't know what makes them do it. Once you tell a lie you have to keep telling them to cover the 1st one up, soon you will get lost and fall all over those lies.

Yep, dated one in college. He was an alcoholic, too. That's all I'll say because I don't want to dredge up any of the crappy memories.

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Well I would assume anyone who is addicted to any alcohol or a drug substance has to lie especially when they need money to feed their addiction, and also lie sadly to their loves ones and friends, to cover up that everything is okay in their live.It must be a sadly and lonely life to live.. Peace. Catherine

As Dr House says.. Everyone lies.

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I don't believe that...I loathe liars!

I have a relative who lies and will tell me when she does. I dont know how she can expect me to believe her but when she talks to me it sounds like the truth....hmmm

Right now the whole family and her own children dont believe her.. it actually blew up in her face about a month or so ago and everyone has been saying behind her back that she is a liar...

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Yes I know one... thank God I don't have to deal with her and her stories any longer. When my BF was alive and we would talk about her and her stories we would say that she has more stories than Mother Goose LOL If the 3 of us were talking, no matter what it was about she either did whatever it was or knew someone. It was sad when the whole Dr. Kovorkian stuff was going on, we were talking about him and what he was doing and she told us (with a straight face) "Oh he was just in the neighborhood, he helped my girlfriend's mother with suicide." Keep in mind at that time, he was no where near NJ

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Sadly yeah, I have known several - geez, now ya'll have me wondering if I am a magnet for them - I have one in my family and at least two in my husbands family. I absolutely hate a liar, so once I find out for sure I have been lied to I tend to avoid that person, that is not real easy when they are family. When I am cornered when they are talking all I hear is "yadda, yadda, yadda", cause I know if I listen to the actual words I will waste time listening till I catch the proof it is a lie, then I am even madder at them and myself.

It is just UNBELIEVABLE the extent of the lies this person told me. And in such great detail. That is what is so creepy to me. And they seem so unnecessary. It's not like he did something he shouldn't have and got caught and made up a lie to get out of touble... just big elaborate stories, that seemed to come from nowhere for seemingly no reason. It feels like it is a game he plays, gets some thrill out of maybe... I don't know. I've told him to leave me alone, he kept calling so I filed a report with the police that I want him to stay away from me. So far, so good. It's been a week and he hasn't tried to contact me. He's got many other problems besides the lying. I was definitely victimized by this man. It all just gives me the creeps.

If your profile didn't say NY, I would swear that I know who you're talking about. I'm dealing with a family member right now who's telling so many lies it's driving me crazy. I mean, truly elaborate, just like what you describe. It's gotten to the point that my husband and I are wondering if he's just "that sick" to tell some of the stuff he's telling, or if he's delusional, or if there's some nighttime soap we've never seen that has this storyline and he's taken it for his own.

I wish I could describe to you in more detail what's going on here...but it's a very close family member and as much as I hate his lies, I'd hate if he found out how I feel about him. Maybe that's a lie in and of itself. Still, I agree with you...it gives me the creeps too.

I used to work with a guy exactly like this. My boss would shoot a 6 point deer, he'd shoot a 10 point. Someone won $100 on a scratch off lottery ticket, he'd say he won $1,000 on the same type of ticket. No matter what...he ran faster, jumped higher......we all used to laugh every time...you couldn't help but NOT laugh!

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I hope you are successful of getting rid of this guy! From what I've observed with these people, they suffer from a whole list of psycosis in addition to their pathological lying. Let's just say their elevator doesn't go to the top floor!

One of the liars that I know is a vengful liar(and evil in many ways, stalker and troublemaker)...these are the worst kind...much more dangerous than the creative liar that's been everywhere, done everything, knows everyone...etc...then there are the ones that are both! What's so scary is these people have a real knack for luring people into their tangled webs...it seems some people just eat this up. They just don't have the capacity to realize they are being "HAD"!

My ex husband is a path liar. And the sick part is he believes his own lies.. that is so scary!!

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I think there are two kinds ( at least) of pathological liars....those that come up with elaborate stories to make their lives more" interesting" ....they may or may not really hurt anybody. But there is the dangerous kind whose stories are malignant and are intended to cause hurt

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This is another thing I just love about these pathologic liars (the dangerous ones)...they will often accuse you of something that they are the ones that are actually guilty of doing this act and then they will say something like "I'll pray for you"...OMG...I'll be fighting mad then! They always have to throw in their devout religious beliefs to make themselves seem more believable!

I didn't read all the responses when I first posted, but I have to say what Catherine just said is so true. Last year my drunken mother called family members and friends of my youngest brother and gave them a sad sob story of how my brother was killed in a firey truck accident in Wisconsin and how she had no money to get out there to claim his remains because his wife wasn't going to do it (everyone knew he was having problems with his wife and knew he traveled to Wisconsin a lot and she was very believable ) My brother was mortified when he woke up (ironically when she decided to make the calls, he was asleep in his truck in Wisconsin) he had his voice mail box and text mail box full of messages saying "Please tell me its not true " etc
Unfortunately, my mother's lie turned in to a reality on January 30, of this year when my brother was killed in a tragic accident. However, this time when my mother called everyone with her sad story, No one believed her. It wasn't until they heard from a friend of his who found him, that they believed he was truly gone.

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I used to work with this weird guy who apparently was really insecure, he would tell outrageous stories. He liked to tell people he was a retired Navy SEAL and had countless tales of his heroic behavior...infiltrating enemy camps, saving his fellow soldiers from being hung in the town square, or from having their hands chopped off by middle eastern soldiers they had offended, etc. Discovering a tribe in the Amazon that was thought to be extinct. Oh and accomplishing many of the war-related feats by using only his wits.....LOL.. we had actually done a background check on the guy for the job, he was just a wannabe soldier, had briefly joined the army long enough to go to boot camp and got discharged/kicked out during boot camp, never actually had a military career.

One day he was telling a very colorful story about finding an ancient treasure and how he gave it to the Amazon tribe just in time to keep the whole tribe from offering themselves up to the gods by throwing themselves off a cliff...my other coworker said, hey wait a minute, wasn't that the movie of the week on TBS last week, the soldier who found the gold treasure in the river and gave it to the chief of the tribe..well I couldn't help it, I burst out laughing and couldn't stop for several minutes. He was scowling and saying no it really happened and I was laughing so hard I was turning red and my stomach hurt. I couldn't help it, he acted like he really believed his own stories too. Crazy!

Oh the same guy told us his wife was a stunt double for Demi Moore because she looked exactly like her...well the wife showed up one day. She did have dark hair but was very short, stout and not Demi-like at all. Not that we expected her to be, lol.

Yeah and its never Lupus either LOL I love House !

I gave birth to a patholgical liar actually 2 of them, it drives me crazy when they do it and I know they know they have done it, but wont admit to it.

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Oh yeah I had one in my life. It was my mother - she always had soemthing going on and if someone did soemthing she had already done it and so much better. It bit her in the behind she got sick and none of us believed her - we thought she was faking it - even the doctors were beginning to believe that she was faking for attention. After 6 weeks we found out she had a brain tumor - she died 5 weeks later.

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Oh my! Sorry to hear that.

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yes, DH's cousin. We were just talking about him today. He has many health problems & DH & I help make sure he's okay, but boy, those lies really annoy me!
He lied to me about what a Dr said to him one day, I corrected him and he told me I was wrong. When I reminded him that I was in the room when the Dr spoke to him, his response to me was, "Well, that's not what I took him to mean, so I win". This is a 59 year old man! What a dolt!

I have a friend that tells everyone a different story regarding a situation or event. Once the others start comparing the stories, we don't know what to believe. The friend's credibility is shot. The friend is nice, however appears to have some deep rooted psychological issues. I just take it for a grain of salt and move on.

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I thought about this a while and I remember a long time ago my Cousin had a friend who lied all the time. She was I think around 15 or so, and she was always telling my cousin she was pregnant. Saying she met some boy at the mall, had sex and now is pregnant... she did this all the time, it became a joke to the rest of us.
Years later when she grew up. She had about 5 or 6 kids by different men... and she lost every one of them to DSS for neglect and/or abuse. Her lies came true in a weird sort of way.

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Yes sadly I know someone :-(

Her lies are just plain wierd I can't make it out.

Example: She will eat a tuna sandwich ( I see this ) then she will claim she had a turkey or chicken sandwich anything BUT the tuna she actually had. I don't see the point to this type of lying its just strange to me, ( a person who lies to make their life more of a fantasy than real at least has a point to it GRANTED its still bad its a lie so its bad but to lie about just plain nonsense??? I don't get it. )

I don't think all lies are equal: A doctor saying someone didn't suffer while dying in order to help the survivors cope? It's a lie (usually) but it's told for the greater good.

Lying by omission; it's still lying. How many can pull out their driver's license and the weight on it is within 10 lbs of your actual weight? I'.m sure a lot of people "omit" 10-50 lbs. It's not a bad lie--but it's a lie.

So, while I can agree that in theory "lying" is not something that one should practice as a habit--I think that each lie has to be taken in context and on a case by case basis.

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