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Old 06-17-2009, 11:57 AM
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UN FLIPPING BELIEVEABLE.... I am shocked and sickened

Donte Stallworth of Cleveland Browns reaches financial agreement with family of victim Mario Reyes - ESPN

30 days in jail??? YOU ARE KIDDING ME?? HE KILLED A MAN! Hell Mike Vick killed dogs and got more time..

Honestly I think it is time that the public sent a message and stopped watching the browns or anything to do with them....
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:05 PM
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"According to the plea agreement, Stallworth needs to serve only 24 days of his 30-day sentence. "

This is so wrong. 24 days for killing someone because he decided to drive while intoxicated. I guess if you have the money you can buy your way out of almost anything
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:07 PM
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Wow 30 days, but he also got 8 yrs probation and 2 years house arrest also so his life will be interesting the next 8 years and I bet he is subject to random drug and alcohol tests and if they are anything like they have been with my former neighbor he will go to jail if he is caught drinking in public at all. Dont forget there was a finacial settlement that has been undisclosed and the fines in Florida which as I see in the newspaper for just a DUI are rather high in the thousands. So he is paying more than one way and while it doesnt bring back the man he killed it may hopefully make a difference in his life and others if he chooses to be a spokeman for what happens to those who do what he did.
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:09 PM
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I'm surprised the family of the victim allowed the plea bargain. (Families of course do not make the final decision, but if they protest enough prosecutors will usually bow to their requests)

Makes me wonder how much he paid the family?
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:09 PM
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No offense to you but what do the Browns have to do with this? Why tell people to boycott them? They team didn't make him drink and drive, the team didn't offer a plea deal to him, the team didn't accept a plea deal from him. I'd think your problem should be more with the prosecutor who offered him and let him plead to that deal. I don't see how a football organization can be responsible for what a player does on his off time. Also the family apparently accepted a settlement from him.
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:23 PM
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I saw that too and was really surprised with the light sentence. I guess if the family is happy with it that's the main thing. Weird though.
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:59 PM
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Not surprised. The wealthy buy their way out of all sorts of things.
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Why is it wierd? He "reaches FINANCIAL arrangement" with the family. They obviously thought the cash settlement would help "replace" the man more easly than having the football player go to jail.. Am I shocked and saddened? If the family isn't ,then I'm not
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:25 PM
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I don't know why it should surprise you. Those with the right lawyers and $$$ can pretty much get out of mostly anything usually. There are certain cases where they don't. I guess his financial contribution to the victim's family was enough..... sad and pathetic.
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I agree totally sad and pathetic all the way.. Peace. Catherine
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Old 06-17-2009, 02:46 PM
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Isn't it ironic and sad that people were more in an uproar over Michael Vick and his dogs. I despise Mr. Vick and what he was doing, but a man was killed because of the actions of Donte Stallworth. Are we that insensitive to DUI homicides maybe because we hear about them more?
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Old 06-17-2009, 05:37 PM
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Isn't it ironic and sad that people were more in an uproar over Michael Vick and his dogs. I despise Mr. Vick and what he was doing, but a man was killed because of the actions of Donte Stallworth. Are we that insensitive to DUI homicides maybe because we hear about them more?
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Old 06-17-2009, 06:33 PM
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Isn't it ironic and sad that people were more in an uproar over Michael Vick and his dogs. I despise Mr. Vick and what he was doing, but a man was killed because of the actions of Donte Stallworth. Are we that insensitive to DUI homicides maybe because we hear about them more?
I think it's true. Some people do value dogs (animals) over people (or at least put them on the same level).
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I have never met anyone who valued dogs over people. I would think that a person like that would have major problems.

Perhaps the difference in sentencing has to do with intent. Vick knew he was engaging in illegal activity. Stallworth probably didn't know what he was doing when he got behind the wheel.
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Old 06-18-2009, 06:39 AM
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I have never met anyone who valued dogs over people. I would think that a person like that would have major problems.
It's probably true that no one values dogs over people; but I think there are a lot of people who will fight vehemently over animal issue without giving much thought to human issues. And it seems that the media puts more emphasis on animal rights sometimes....while the abused child gets a short story on page 8. PETA is a strong organization.

My 15YO son posted about this very same issue on his facebook. He really thinks this is a miscarriage of justice that Donte Stallworth got such a light sentence for killing a man. Heck, Plaxico Burris will probably get a stronger sentence for shooting himself. (except that this case might help him get something lighter)

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It's probably true that no one values dogs over people; but I think there are a lot of people who will fight vehemently over animal issue without giving much thought to human issues. And it seems that the media puts more emphasis on animal rights sometimes....while the abused child gets a short story on page 8. PETA is a strong organization.

My 15YO son posted about this very same issue on his facebook. He really thinks this is a miscarriage of justice that Donte Stallworth got such a light sentence for killing a man. Heck, Plaxico Burris will probably get a stronger sentence for shooting himself. (except that this case might help him get something lighter)

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Again, though, you get down to intent. Murder would have been a different story.
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Old 06-18-2009, 08:06 AM
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"No offense to you but what do the Browns have to do with this?" He is still going to play for that team... Why would I want to watch a team where there is someone who murdered an innocent man is playing the game?
I understand that the family agreed to this however the DA can do what they want. I am just appalled that this has happened... makes kids think that money can and does by freedom....
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This is a good example why so many of us are scornful and distrusting of the legal system...someone with big bucks can buy their way out of just about anything. I mean really to get only 30 days for killing someone while drunk, is ridiculous.

And I read that another part of his plea deal was to donate $225,000 to MADD but that MADD turned it down, saying they would not accept it because they disagreed with the time in jail and the settlement.
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Old 06-18-2009, 04:14 PM
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I think we should take a page from the early days of our country when they made people wear signs or put them in the stocks. Light sentences for bad actions should be accompanied with having to wear, so that it's constantly in plain sight, a large font sign, that says what the offender did. And I mean large font. Something that can be read from 20 feet away. In his case it might read, "I KILLED SOMEONE WHILE DRIVING DRUNK". Or in Vicks case, "I TORTURED AND FOUGHT DOGS". This should be worn on both the front and back of their clothing and whenever they are out of the walls of their place of residence, including while on the football field. And it should be worn until their probation is over.
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Old 06-18-2009, 06:58 PM
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"No offense to you but what do the Browns have to do with this?" He is still going to play for that team... Why would I want to watch a team where there is someone who murdered an innocent man is playing the game?
I understand that the family agreed to this however the DA can do what they want. I am just appalled that this has happened... makes kids think that money can and does by freedom....
I still don't agree. Is your employer responsible for what YOU do when you're not working. Same concept to me. And as of right now, no one knows if he will be playing for the Browns or not. The league still gets to decide his punishment. I still say the DA and family could've made a big deal about this if they wanted to. THEY chose not to.
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Old 06-18-2009, 07:35 PM
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THEY chose not to.
Probably because they knew his pockets are a lot deeper than theirs. I'm guessing their lawyer told them that Stallworth could appeal until they ran out of money.
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Old 06-18-2009, 08:12 PM
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The NFL has suspended him indefinately...

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Old 06-19-2009, 09:23 AM
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Good!! I am glad to see that. And I hope he has to pay the Browns organization back the money they just wasted on him.
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