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| Obama's preacher
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, in a new interview with PBS newsman Bill Moyers was broadcasted a couple of days ago. Fox news has released the videos with the full sermon delivered by Wright on April. 13, 2003, FOXNews.com - Sermon Video Presents Obama's Former Pastor in His Own Words - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum Click on the link above to hear the full sermon (not just a small soundbite). |
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Here's a link to Bill Moyer's interview with Rev Wright: Bill Moyers Journal . Watch & Listen | PBS |
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| Is Jeremiah Wright a colossal disaster for Barack Obama or a press trick? The Rev. Jeremiah Wright couldn't have done more damage to Barack Obama's campaign if he had tried. And you have to wonder if that's just what one friend of Wright wanted. Shortly before he rose to deliver his rambling, angry, sarcastic remarks at the National Press Club Monday, Wright sat next to, and chatted with, Barbara Reynolds. A former editorial board member at USA Today, she runs something called Reynolds News Services and teaches ministry at the Howard University School of Divinity. (She is an ordained minister). It also turns out that Reynolds - introduced Monday as a member of the National Press Club "who organized" the event - is an enthusiastic Hillary Clinton supporter. On a blog linked to her Web site- www.reynoldsnews.com- Reynolds said in a February post: "My vote for Hillary in the Maryland primary was my way of saying thank you" to Clinton and her husband for the successes of Bill Clinton's presidency. |
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Today at a press conference Obama has denounced his preacher comments from yesterday. Video: Obama Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com Obama: I Am ‘Outraged’ and ‘Angered’ By Wright’s Comments - America’s Election HQ "“Yesterday we saw a very different vision of America,” Obama said. “I am outraged by the comments that were made, and saddened over the spectacle that we saw yesterday.” “The person I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 years ago. His comments were not only divisive and destructive but I believe they ended up giving comfort to those who prey on hate,” he said." Political Radar: Obama Condemns Wright's Defense "But it also raises additional questions for Obama -- including why he maintained a 20-year spiritual relationship with Wright, and why he chose not to denounce Wright when the story first spread six weeks ago." |
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wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round, 'round and 'round, wheels on the bus goes 'round and round, all through the town.... Wonder what it is like UNDER the bus!?
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Seems to me it would be the people who intend to vote for him that would be questioning why Obama chose to stay with Rev. Wright for as long as he did. Now that Rev. Wright has come public with what Obama has been sitting and listening to for 20 years, Obama now denounces him. You can't sit and listen to a preacher preaching that type of hate and discord for 20 years without some of it rubbing off on you!
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The people who support Obama read and don't put much credence in mudslinging. I don't think that Rev. Wright's sermons constitute hate speech. I think that we can conclude that an awful lot of whites do not care understand black churches nor the difference in the black experience in America.
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I think all races need to learn from the past--not continue to dwell on it.
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__________________ "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? " ~Epicurus |
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SO what I'm hearing from Obama supporters.....if I'm understanding correctly is... Regardless of the possibility that he is not what he appears/claims to be, you will vote for him. Regardless if he indeed did sit under a preacher who believes the things Wright does and believed right along with him, but now back peddles b/c he knows it will hurt his chances for the Presidency, you will vote for him. And those of us who do care to know the truth, no matter who we intend to vote for, well, we are just nosey and should care about things that matter, or the things that someone else decides should matter to us. UGH I don't want to vote for any of them....but he is certainly not looking like "the least of three evils" Melissa |
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I looked back and can't find any posts that say that. Can you link for me?
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, since I'm willing to bet there is no way you would vote for him even if he parted water, I'll just wish you luck choosing between the evil twins. |
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I thought I was clear in saying that that is what I was getting from the supporter's responses. I think that sometimes we only see what we want to see in ppl we like/support. Whether it be a candidate or a friend. The truth can be staring us in the face and we will choose to only see the good. And as far as black churches and not understanding the black experience. Your right, I can't understand, because I'm white. I strive for more understanding, but it simply isn't my experience. There is nothing I can do about that. But it goes both ways....that seems to be forgotten. And as far as me not ever voting for Obama.....I had seriously considered it...but you're right to assume that will not happen now. My first assumptions about him are turning out to be true and I just don't think he's ready to be president. Melissa |
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And sometimes it's a whole lot easier to see what we want and not necessarily is there. And while the "Black Experience" was not good (I have to assume we're talking segregation, active KKK, lynchings, etc.) you don't hear the Native Americans hollering about their HORRORS and continuing to be a bitter and angry race over the genocide of complete tribes!
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| Please advise what ACOG is? And when you put that statement in parenthesis, are you telling us you are black / or a member of a black church that you regularly attend and thus have the accurate, time honored knowedge of the beliefs of that particular congregation?
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I think your last sentence explains your first. You see what you want to see. You've chosen to see certain things about Obama supporters, regardless of whether it's true or not. |
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| you can't POSSIBLY be serious. You really cannot.
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__________________ "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? " ~Epicurus |
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What do blacks want the US (as a nation) to do? Apologize ..then what? |
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