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Obama rally draws 75,000 people

Senator Obama was in Portland today and it's estimated that 75,000 people attended the rally. I live here and I'm stunned at the size of the crowd. He brought Michelle and the girls -- I'll bet the little ones were amazed.

Rally for Barack Obama draws roughly 75,000 to Waterfront Park | KATU.com - Portland, Oregon | News

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HItler drew crowds like this too??????? Sickening.....Sherri
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Reductio ad Hitlerum.

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I'm guessing you were upset to have missed those.
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You have to wonder what kind of brain can produce such convoluted thinking.

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I am hoping like heck that you couldn't read what you wrote here or that you have had a brain bleed or a temporary lapse of sanity or some other logical excuse for why you wrote this.....comparing this crowd gathering to hear a Presidential Candidate speak to a crowd Hitler gathered??????

I do not like to judge people but you are making this far toooo easy for me not to judge you. Please get a grip.
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HItler drew crowds like this too??????? Sickening.....Sherri
Benazhir Bhutto
Mahatma Ghandi
Mother Teresa
The Pope

All of these people have drawn large huge crowds, but in no way could they be likened to Hitler.

Some people show up out of curosity, some show up to start trouble, and some have a genuine interest in what the person has to say.

You are so far out in left field that it scares me
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I am hoping like heck that you couldn't read what you wrote here or that you have had a brain bleed or a temporary lapse of sanity or some other logical excuse for why you wrote this.....comparing this crowd gathering to hear a Presidential Candidate speak to a crowd Hitler gathered??????

I do not like to judge people but you are making this far toooo easy for me not to judge you. Please get a grip.
As a matter of fact I have had a brain bleed and three blood clots on my brain..so I dont appreciate your analogy You should be careful what you say to people... You have no idea what its like until you have actually been there,,,,I dont wish it on anyone.....Do you say "Wow that person must have had deadly cancer to be thinking like that??? It was and is a very serious situation for me and I dont appreciate people making light of it or using it with such sarcasim...I really dont care how you judge me... But I can assure you that it has had NO affect on my thinking...People started out think Hitler was good and look what happened....I am just not drinking the kool aid here....I believe Barack has made many questionable statements, he has been involved with very questionable people, and to think he sat 20 years under this racist, crazy pastor and didnt "know" about his statements...then when he saw that wasnt going to fly he denounced his statements to a point but he continued to take up for him.......I have a white pastor and if talked like that about the USA or african american people I wouldnt set in ONE more service....I believe Barack and his wife are both racist and I dont believe his true colors will show until he is in office....He scares me...He has stated in his books that he will take the side of muslims.....Think what you will of me but I dont want the white house turned into a mosque. He thinks you can set down and talk to radical muslims who blow themselves up on the streets

Now he says "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK..What kind of stupid statement is that????? Since when did we have to ask the world’s permission to do whatever we want???

Now he is whining because the Tennessee GOP said some things about his wife....His quote

"These folks should lay off my wife," Obama told ABC News, hitting out at a Tennessee Republican Party ad questioning the patriotism of his wife, a driven Ivy League-educated lawyer and mother of their two daughters.

"If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful, because that I find unacceptable, the notion that you start attacking my wife or my family," Obama said

Be careful...what does that mean??? Is that a threat of some kind???? She has made herself an issue in this campaign..going around stumping for her husband and she had made some very controversail remarks of her own...For the first time in her life, she is proud of her country??? Isnt that funny she is proud of the US until her hubby is running for President!!! She has said Americans are lazy, mean people....SHe needs to learn if she cant take it, dont dish it out...she seems like a very bitter person to me.....

Of course its one set of rules for Barack and Michelle and another set for everyone else....Sherri the Dummy because she has had brain bleeds
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As a matter of fact I have had a brain bleed and three blood clots on my brain..so I dont appreciate your analogy You should be careful what you say to people... You have no idea what its like until you have actually been there,,,,I dont wish it on anyone.....Do you say "Wow that person must have had deadly cancer to be thinking like that??? It was and is a very serious situation for me and I dont appreciate people making light of it or using it with such sarcasim...I really dont care how you judge me... But I can assure you that it has had NO affect on my thinking...People started out think Hitler was good and look what happened....I am just not drinking the kool aid here....I believe Barack has made many questionable statements, he has been involved with very questionable people, and to think he sat 20 years under this racist, crazy pastor and didnt "know" about his statements...then when he saw that wasnt going to fly he denounced his statements to a point but he continued to take up for him.......I have a white pastor and if talked like that about the USA or african american people I wouldnt set in ONE more service....I believe Barack and his wife are both racist and I dont believe his true colors will show until he is in office....He scares me...He has stated in his books that he will take the side of muslims.....Think what you will of me but I dont want the white house turned into a mosque. He thinks you can set down and talk to radical muslims who blow themselves up on the streets

Now he says "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK..What kind of stupid statement is that????? Since when did we have to ask the world’s permission to do whatever we want???

Now he is whining because the Tennessee GOP said some things about his wife....His quote

"These folks should lay off my wife," Obama told ABC News, hitting out at a Tennessee Republican Party ad questioning the patriotism of his wife, a driven Ivy League-educated lawyer and mother of their two daughters.

"If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful, because that I find unacceptable, the notion that you start attacking my wife or my family," Obama said

Be careful...what does that mean??? Is that a threat of some kind???? She has made herself an issue in this campaign..going around stumping for her husband and she had made some very controversail remarks of her own...For the first time in her life, she is proud of her country??? Isnt that funny she is proud of the US until her hubby is running for President!!! She has said Americans are lazy, mean people....SHe needs to learn if she cant take it, dont dish it out...she seems like a very bitter person to me.....

Of course its one set of rules for Barack and Michelle and another set for everyone else....Sherri the Dummy because she has had brain bleeds

Sigh......I reserve the right to comment later when I am no longer speechless.
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(sher218) .. this link from a HISTORY class is very interesting. Uncanny

The History of Hitler - The Irony of It All

"He started using powerful propaganda that would eventually become known as The Big Lie. The theory behind the Big Lie was that the masses would believe a big lie more than they would belive a little lie, if they heard it often enough. Hitler bombarded the people with talk of peace, nonviolence and a strong unified Germany,"

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Just because the liberals here on this board come running to defend Obama everytime he speaks doesn't make the opinions of others stupid or questionable. Just because you support Obama doesn't make you experts on everything (even though I agree you act like 'know it alls' and love to call people names and hurt people's feelings.) I agree that Obama is someone who should be looked at and looked at carefully. He says nothing but yet has flocks of thousands jumping to see him. It amazes me at how the libs on this board all jumped ship on Hillary (after thinking a few years ago that the Clintons could do no wrong) and now support Obama.

As for Obama making statements that make me say 'huh', yes, he's made quite a few. I wonder what he means when he made the statement about the SUV's, our food we eat and what other countries feel about that. Is he going to try to take away our freedoms for the sake of other countries, so they won't be angry at us? Heck, the guy doesn't even know how many states we have in the U.S.!! The other day he said we had 57 states!! He keeps taking about change. Change, change, change. But what change? Obama seems to have all the right answers. He says what people want to hear and they all act like they're under a spell. Searching for answers, people turn to a man who 'says' he has the answers. Scary. Hillary wants to debate him (without mods and the way it's been done in the past), but Obama refuses to do it. I think it's because he's afraid to do it because he won't know the right answers.

So someone said something you don't agree with -- that's no reason to call the poster names.

BTW, President Bush has been called a lot worse than Hitler on these boards from some of you!!
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so wait. ROFLOL. Let me get this straight. The same folks who got mad at what Wright said a few weeks ago are now defending someone comparing Obama to Hitler. The man who MURDERED millions of Jews, gypsies, Russians, etc. in order to make the white race more pure? That's ok? She's got a right to her opinion. But...

OMG, how funny. Thanks for that laugh. ROFLOL. Good one. Man. Y'all are hilarious.
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I didn't necessarily consider it a comparison. I thought the point was that just because someone draws a huge crowd doesn't make him right. Why does everything have to turn so personal...??? Deal with what is said, why take ugly swipes at ppl??


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I didn't necessarily consider it a comparison. I thought the point was that just because someone draws a huge crowd doesn't make him right. Why does everything have to turn so personal...??? Deal with what is said, why take ugly swipes at ppl??


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If one reads the OP---it is just commenting on how large the crowd was. Didn't mention right/wrong, good/bad, etc.

No one said anything positive or negative UNTIL the comparison was made to Hitler. Hitler was Satan incarnate and even as much as I detest "Dubya" I'd never compare him to Hitler!

If the point was that just because someone draws a huge crowd it doesn't make him right, then how about just bluntly say that!?
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google "news articles about Obama compared to Hitler"

This has been in the news media. Something that Obama's crowd will probaly have to deal with in the coming months.

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I didn't necessarily consider it a comparison. I thought the point was that just because someone draws a huge crowd doesn't make him right. Why does everything have to turn so personal...??? Deal with what is said, why take ugly swipes at ppl??


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You don't think comparing Obama to Hitler in his ability to draw crowds made it personal??

Anyone who's spent more than a few hours on the internet knows what bringing Hitler into the conversation does.

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google "news articles about Obama compared to Hitler"

This has been in the news media. Something that Obama's crowd will probaly have to deal with in the coming months.
The kind of people that compare Obama to Hitler are the kind of people that are never going to vote for a Democrat anyway.

Besides, you can't "deal" with willful stupidity.

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You don't think comparing Obama to Hitler in his ability to draw crowds made it personal??

Anyone who's spent more than a few hours on the internet knows what bringing Hitler into the conversation does.
Certainly not personal to anyone here.

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I think you're wrong. It was meant to be a personal attack on the Obama supporters and to deny that, IMO, is to deny the obvious.

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If one reads the OP---it is just commenting on how large the crowd was. Didn't mention right/wrong, good/bad, etc.

No one said anything positive or negative UNTIL the comparison was made to Hitler. Hitler was Satan incarnate and even as much as I detest "Dubya" I'd never compare him to Hitler!

If the point was that just because someone draws a huge crowd it doesn't make him right, then how about just bluntly say that!?

Out come the comment police again....

Isn't this a discussion board?? Were we only supposed to make "approved" comments?? What would those have been? "Nice crowd". "Wow, I can't believe that many ppl showed up?" " Wow, I can' t believe there were only 75.000 ppl" "look at the weird guy in the one pic" blah blah blah.

Ppl have opinions that differ. We can never know where a thread will go.......we should all know that by now. But the poster's comments were not directed at anyone in particular. Just a comment. I didn't particularly like Hitler being used, but I got it and moved on. Again, WHY make it personal?? UGH!!!

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I think you're wrong. It was meant to be a personal attack on the Obama supporters and to deny that, IMO, is to deny the obvious.
Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion....lol....I don't happen to scrutinize every comment made to see if someone was trying to attack me or something I believe in. I'm just not that paranoid. And btw.....I do deny it.

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