I'm wondering what everyone thought of Senator Clinton's speech last night. Were you surprised that she wasn't more congratulatory, do you think she's holding out to be VP?

I listened to her speech on youtube. I do think she is open to the idea of VP. But I doubt if that will happen. Maybe a position in Obama's possible cabinet, VP would surprise me.

She was still in the campaign mode last night since people were still voting in the last primiaries. I do wonder why the rush to declare a nominee last night. I think it would have been better to wait until the end of the week.

I think that when she endorsed McCain over Obama, she screwed herself out of the nom. Not only that, but the tone and lack of humility in her speech last night, clinched the fact that she won't get it. A cabinet position maybe.

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I don't think this is going to come down to a few remarks that Hilary made, or a tone that she took that didn't jive with Obama's side. He hasn't shown me that he'd be vindictive or shallow.

I believe she'll be asked to be on the ticket because of the simple facts that it would unify the democrats, and, frankly IMHO - he needs her.

I'm interested to see how this plays out. To me, if he's smart, he'll ask. And if she's smart, she'll take him up on it...

While I respect your opinion...

I think Obama would be wise to at least broker an offer even if it's just a token offer (agreed upon beforehand that she won't accept).

I think the combination of Obama and Hillary would be a formidable force, simply because they both are popular, they both have specific voter niches and I'm of the opinion that they would provide a respectable balance in the global/world eye.

I don't know how it will play out. I hope that whomever he chooses is someone that would make a good President in 4-8 years

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She was obnoxious and arrogant in her speech last night. I would hate to see her and Bill on the ticket. And make no mistake, it would be both of them. Instead of unifying the party, I think it would be terrible for it.

Her speech was made for the benefit of her supporters and no one else. I think she'll be suspending her campaign soon.

I agree that if he's smart, he'll ask. It remains to be seen if he will. He could do a lot worse and I can't think of anyone better. He can send Bill to the middle east and tell him to come home when there is peace. That should keep him busy.

LOL! That was a good one.

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I like your thinking...

I disagree.

1 - he has to be able to trust his VP. Like they said on CNN today, his VP has to be someone he can be sure is working for him, not themselves. Frankly, I think that alone puts her out of the running.

2 - her millions of voters are not going to vote for or against him simply b/c she says to. Well, at least, I would hope they wouldn't. I'd hope that they would choose based on the fact that America cannot afford 4 - 8 more years of a republican in office. Especially not progressive American women. Sadly, some of her voters are a lunatic fringe who don't see it that way. YouTube - Clinton Supporter Thrown Out of Rules Committee Meeting

3 - I don't see why it would be wise of him to broker an offer. Because he won and she didn't? No good. It's not like he stole the nomination, he won it fair and square, and with the new numbers she advocated. If it's simply so he'll have a woman on the ballot with him, well there's always Clare MaCaskill. If it's so he'll get those 1 in 7 voters who said race was a factor, well, frankly, I'd rather they go to hell than have him try to woo someone as racist as that.

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1) I think that the VicePresident should work WITH the President, not FOR the President.
2) I wasn't implying that Hillary supporters would vote him because she said to. I was simply saying that as popular as she is, in combination with his popularity it would only increase their popularity. And, I am of the opinion that Hillary hasn't cornered the market on "lunatic fringe" supporters
3) Why so defensive? Why do you even mention "stole the nomination" or bring in race? I believe if there was a deal brokered where he offered her the VP position (especially if she turns it down) it would be like extending an olive branch. Kind of like saying "we're all in this together, let's work together". And isn't that something WE all would like to see? More cooperation and working together?

Like I said, I think that Obama and Hillary would compliment each other. We certainly don't need a lap dog VP nor do we need a VP who is never seen, but is running the show behind the scenes.

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Oh my gosh!!! We agree! I also think it would be a big mistake. If you get Hillary, you get Bill and I think there's quite a section of the population that can't stand the Clintons. Oops, since I am a McCain supporter I guess I should hope he does pick her because that would certainly help McCain! lol

Too funny! And you know he'd probably be intereted in all the women over there.........

There are many reasons the Obama/Clinton ticket would be in the best interests of democrats.

One huge one is that Clinton has huge appeal where Obama has admitedly fallen short. It seems like a no brainer that Obama needs Clinton's voters to win.

Secondly, while campaigning, both O and C have emphatically expressed their mutual similarities and downplayed their differences. They both stand for virtually the same things! How could that not strenghthen his campaign?

I find it interesting that the same poster who was shocked that fellow MC'ers weren't coming out in droves on the boards to cheer for the historic occasion of a black man securing the nomination wouldn't find it equally historic and effective to have a FEMALE on the ticket along with the black man.

To me, that ticket would truly be what a progressive American WOMAN would be yearning for. JMHO...

Plain and simple Hillary has million and millions of supporters..she won the "popular" vote. I think that there have been bad feelings and unfortunate comments made in BOTH camps, and both camps have said things that offended the others camps. Yes, there are rabid HRC supporters, BUT there are also rabid and RACIST Obama supporters (can think of a few reverends we have read about just to name two, let alone others). Both camps have denounced those fringe rabid supporters. You cannot nor should you label either candidate on those rabid, out-of-the-control-of-the-candidate loons.....look at the average supporter to see where their base lies. I know that concilliatory gestures on BOTH sides need to be done to bring the party back together.....BOTH candidates need to make decisions that ensure that we are not shackled under a republican yoke again.....

I think the time for pettiness and damaging rhetoric needs to be over and done with NOW within the party.....BOTH need to make changes and allowances and start taking the high road towards each other.

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I didn't realize Clare MaCaskill wasn't a female. My fault. And trust me, I wasn't shocked that people here of all places weren't coming out to cheer for such an historic occasion. Trust me on that!

I mention it b/c that's all we're hearing on the news, in the blogs, on the radio, in the papers, etc from her supporters at this time. So it's relevant, imo. Like it or not, those are the two main reasons most of her supporters are giving for not wanting to vote for him. Why couldn't he say the same thing by offering her a cabinet position? WHY does it have to be VP? Isn't it still cooperation and working together if she were offered a position on his cabinet?

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and that's truly a shame that anyone thinks he stole the election. Even though he's not my 1st choice (I do love Hillary) he won--based on the system we have in place, fair and square.(I don't like the system--but didn't like it before Obama won, so that isn't relevant)

As to the race issue---while I'm sure some are against Obama because he's black. That has never played a part in my decision.

I want Hill as VP dammit! I just do---Obama doesn't have to offer it, and yes, offering her a cabinet position would be nice (I think Hillary could take Condolezza in a fight! LOL)---but *I* want her to be offered the VP spot!

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I get that. I really do. But do you think SHE would be happy in a VP spot? I truly, honestly do not think she would. PLUS, if she gets put in any other position, she'll have to leave the senate. What then would happen to our majority lead?

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Only if you use Enron's accounting methods and discount all the votes cast in caucus states.

According to the news Hillary will give a speech this Sat. This should help unite the Democratic party.

Clinton To End Campaign, Back Obama, Tells Supporters That Party Must Unite Behind Obama; "Stakes Are Too High" To Do Otherwise - CBS News

"I have said throughout the campaign that I would strongly support Senator Obama if he were the Democratic Party's nominee, and I intend to deliver on that promise," Clinton said in the letter. "I will be speaking on Saturday about how together we can rally the party behind Senator Obama. The stakes are too high and the task before us too important to do otherwise."

"My differences with Senator Obama are small compared to the differences we have with Senator McCain and the Republicans," she said in her letter, titled, "I Want You To Know".