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They get started by jealous republicans, and they get mad seeing something they had - somebody is holding... rewrote that all by myself. Stop clapping. ![]() Article about those lyin' liars below. Emphasis mine. Quote:
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Oh, come on.....let's be fair, the Dems have started their fair share of rumors, too. You can't fool us.
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| HillBuzz Which is a blog from a Hillary supporter does a lot of rumor flying...mainly against Obama. This is one disadvantage from having a candidate that people do not know much about. They will dig up anything and try to spin it. The internet goes crazy and the rumor mill starts going. |
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Wouldn't you be surprised to find that the "Whitey" talk is true and the Republicans (or Hillary) is holding it till October??!!! Nothing surprises me anymore! And you can blame those 'jealous Republicans' all you want, but those nasty Democrats are just as bad (or worse!)
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A lot of the rumors, I believe, were started by the Clinton campaign. The "whitey" rumor was started by Larry Johnson. Johnson also started a rumor that Obama was having extramarital affairs and was caught with drugs on him in 1999. Offered $100K to pass a lie detector test. He accepted the offer but failed the lie detector test. Yet, based on his allegations, many gullible Americans will believe his every utterance. Considering the source, I, for one, would be very surpised if the "whitey" rumor turned out to have any validity whatsoever. The GOP in the last election cycle proved how low they would go. I think that we can expect more of the same. |
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My maiden name, literally translated from Polish is "whitey"...Kinda funny, since I am often mistaken for Latina or Middle Eastern (I am a dark person). FTR, I am a conservative republican and dont believe Michele Obama called anyone "whitey" ..It even sounds ridiculous saying it out loud. |
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I can't imagine that Michelle Obama ever said "whitey" from the pulpit. She might have said "Why be...." or something like that but she is smart, too smart to say something like that. The rumors that are circulating are starting to look like desperation from people who are frightened and will do/say anything to discredit the Democratic Party and their candidate. They know that people who are afraid of Sen Obama and the change that is possible and the fact there might be a AA president will believe that she is a racist without proof. If it was true, they would present the evidence when they start the rumor to blow the candidacy out of the water right now. But, because there is more than likely no tape, they can say whatever they want to and those people who are already afraid that he is a "militant, racist, anti american, non patriotic, radical muslim with his think a like wife. It is silly and unbelieveable. I personally would feel better if people didn't like Obama because of his political beliefs and not on things that don't make a difference. The next thing we will hear will be that his daughters wore black one day (and there is a video) and therefore they must be "goth" or "emo" or "juggletes" and he isn't a good father so he can't be a good president. People will lie about anything because the majority of the public will not wait for proof. Nor listen to common sense. Does it make sense for Michelle Obama to have said "whitey" from the pulpit and then had her husband run for office? Throughout this campaign, there have been some doozys spread about Obama. He isn't patriotic because he won't wear a flag pin, or he didn't put his hand over his heart once or twice, or he isn't pro war, or his pastor at his church said some things that were hard to hear, or that his wife said that she is now proud of America or something like that. These are not the issues. The issues should be on who is going to get us out of the mess we are in in Iraq, the person who gives us hope that there is a solution to the health crisis, the economic crisis, the housing crisis, the credit crunch, the erosion of the middle class. I happen to believe that the Democratic party gives the best reason for hope. Because we already know what we have, I don't want what we have now and hope to have something better for the future. JMO and YMMV
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I hear these rumors and ignore them, as I'm sure many, many, many others do. I think you'd have to be gullible to think the stories make that much of a difference to anyone. People are smarter than that. At least the people I hang with. As I said before, I believe Obama will sink his own boat. JMO The comment about "the pastor at his churhc said some things that were hard to hear". C'mon, it was more than that. Downplay it all you want, but it is what it is. Obama sat in that church for years. Wright's opinions were no surprise to him, just to the rest of the world. As far as him leaving, too little, too late. I think it speaks volumes about Obama. You can't twist it, or change it, or take it out of context. Like I said, it is what it is. It makes no difference to me what color he is. None at all. I still don't like him. But, all of us silly Republicans will just believe whatever the Republican gods tellus to believe, and we are irrational and simply cannot think for ourselves. And gullible? You've never seen a more gullible ppl, those silly Republicans. And we have no idea what common sense is, so there's no sense preaching at us about it!! LOL Please, it goes both ways, so to imply that the Dems don't do the same is irrational. I'm not sure there is a "higher ground" in politics. Melissa |
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[quote=momrajum;3006468] The comment about "the pastor at his churhc said some things that were hard to hear". C'mon, it was more than that. Downplay it all you want, but it is what it is. Obama sat in that church for years. Wright's opinions were no surprise to him, just to the rest of the world. As far as him leaving, too little, too late. I think it speaks volumes about Obama. You can't twist it, or change it, or take it out of context. Like I said, it is what it is.[quote=momrajum;3006468] Just as five years being tortured would probably leave a person with some mental problems. Some of the after effects include, weakened impulse control, bursts of anger and depression. It is what it is. |
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| I could care less whether he's black, white, orange or purple! I don't like his political beliefs (or lack thereof). Wait till he taxes the heck out of you and gas prices go to $12/gallon. Let me see what the democrat followers say then. We have oil right here on our soil and thanks to the Democrats, we can't drill on it. The prices of gas didn't go to these high prices until the Democrats took over Congress (thanks Nancy Pelosi and co.). Whatever happened to her statement when she took over that the Democrats were going to make a difference now? Wow, they sure did -- gas is over $4.00/gallon, grocery prices are soaring and that's only the beginning!
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What is funny here to me, Melissa is that I never said anything about what color Obama was. I said that I wished that people would not vote for Obama based on the platform and not on silly things like pledging the "right" way or not wearing a flag pin and I said nothing about color. Your statement says a lot to me. It actually says that this is what you think of first when you think about him...not the issues.
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I read somewhere today that in polls, it is Obama that will win the election right now. I know that a lot of things can change between now and November but I guess you better get ready. ![]() It could happen...and then I am hoping that those who are so vehemently against him will be willing to hear exactly what those people who didn't want to see GWB in office a few years ago heard....."He is the president of the US. Deal with it."
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You most certainly did make a statement about what color Obama was. I take it that your "AA" means African American? Or does AA mean something else to you? Automobile Association? How could you possibly know that this is what I first thought of when I think about him? You said AA in your post!!! I read what you wrote about him! Gosh!
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MTT, If you read what I posted I was talking about his wife. Then I spoke about the other issues that have come up and in THAT paragraph I stated, the issues of the wearing of the pin, the saluting etc. There is a saying I heard once about protesting too much. I don't care really if you are not voting for him because he is black. What is wish is that people would be honest and say it. You can deal with honesty and there is nothing anyone can do about his color. But I have a sneaky suspicion that for a lot of people, if he was pro life, pro war in Iraq, wore a suit made of the flag, saluted when someone said America, went to church every morning with the "right" pastor, claimed to be white on Tuesdays, Thursday and every other Friday, they would still not vote for him. It is interesting. I think for a lot of people, ( and obviously I am not speaking to those people who will shortly post that they don't care what color he is) the things they have chosen to have a real problem with (he doesn't wear a flag pin, he doesn't stand or put his hand over his heart when he says the pledge, the new black panther org. endorses him, he didn't denounce his pastor soon enough, he doesn't claim his white mother's heritage, he doesn't claim to be white....are just smoke screens because deep down inside, they don't believe that the time is now for a Black person to be president of the US. Which is cool. They get to live however they want. But it is clear what is really up. I admire those people who can see both candidates for who they are and just vote their candidate without all the crap that goes along with it. The lies.....John McCain is a fine candidate with faults but I can't say that his faults are why I won't vote for him...I know that I have heard he has a bad temper but it really didn't make any difference to my vote. The nastiness that some of his supporters here on this board show me more fear rather than confidence in the Republican candidate. I don't understand it. The glee in the comment about if Obama wins is an odd comment to me. I understand it in the context of being afraid of having someone who is different and you don't understand or want to understand. I heard something on the radio that was very true today on the way home. A conservative had a guest caller and he was saying whether you are Democrat or Republican, we as a nation, should be proud of ourselves and of Sen Obama because 40 years ago, this would not have been possible. Not even close. And he said that as a nation, this speaks of how far we have come, with the exception of now instead of letting the issues speak, we attack and bring innuendo and falsehoods because we haven't come that far.
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twist, twist, twist.... You (usnamom) mentioned AA as I read the rest of your post that was on my mind. Period. Read what you will into it, but you are wrong. Period. I think it is exciting that we have a black man running for President. I just don't happen to trust him, or like him. Period. It is not about what color he is. And you did say something about there being an AA president....even though paragraph was about his wife...last I checked, she wasn't running. Melissa |
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Like momrajum said, you can twist it all you want, but you said what you said. It's there to see. And as for the 'nastiness' on the Republican side? You've got to be kidding! I don't understand the Obama supporters nastiness. The things they have called people here on this board! OMG! As for the 'glee' you mentioned, the only glee was one of your Obama supporters who continuously says "You're funny" when she has no answer for a statement. There is no 'glee' in Obama winning when he raises everyone's taxes and the gas and grocery prices keep rising. Obama is the most liberal voter in Washington. If Obama were to somehow by a miracle change his views on a lot of issues, yes, I would vote for him. But I don't see that happening anytime in the near future for sure.
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I didn't twist anything. I called it like I saw it. I didn't mention that people wouldn't vote for Obama because of his color in my first post. But a poster quickly said she didn't care if he was blue, purple or whatever because of whatever. I didn't say at all that people wouldn't vote for him because he was black in my first post because I liked to think that the people here are not that way. I rather, gave examples of what I thought were silly reasons that have been brought up here.....the pin, the pledge, the "hidden" tape. But, I think that maybe a nerve has been hit. The gleeful post that truble made did not have quite the same tone as what was posted ".......I want to see you laughing when........." Compare that to "you're funny". And I don't have Obama suppo |