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All three major networks send anchors to Middle East...

with Obama.

McCain has made three visits to the region in the last several months and he didn't get accompanied by a single one of them.

You'd think Mr. Gymnasium was making a state visit or something.
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It seems as if it's akin to setting someone up to watch them fall. The networks I watched today were presenting the story as if it was a given that he just falls so short on foreign policy issues. Sad...
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I think it will be interesting to see if his stance on the Iraq war changes after being over there.
He certainly had a difference in opinion on FISA than what he said a couple of months ago.
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McCain has made three visits to the region in the last several months and he didn't get accompanied by a single one of them.

You'd think Mr. Gymnasium was making a state visit or something.
Mr. Gymnasium???? I don't get that. McCain fills gyms; Obama fills stadiums.

They're following him because it's only his second visit and because of all the pressure McCain brought to bear on him. Frankly, it's McCain's and the RNC's fault the visit is getting so much attention. The RNC had their big "count-down" clock on Obama. Guess that backfired on them.

Kind of ironic, huh?

Maybe if McCain didn't stage such blatantly dishonest photo ops as his stroll through the oh-so-safe market, he might get more attention.
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Yesterday Mr. O. went to a total of six Chicago gyms and worked out in three of them.

I don't think they're following him because it's *only* his second visit. I think they're following him like puppy dogs because he shares their political views.
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Ok. Well then email Fox to step up their coverage of the republican candidate.
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I don't think they're following him because it's *only* his second visit. I think they're following him like puppy dogs because he shares their political views.

Then Fox News must be residing in McCain's colon. Is it?

So Obama went to six gyms yesterday. Who cares? What did McCain do yesterday? Here's what he didn't do:

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ABC News reports that McCain has attended zero of his Senate committee's six hearings on Afghanistan in the last two years:

The McCain campaign criticism of Sen. Barack Obama's hearing record on Capitol Hill led us to put the shoe on the other foot.


It turns out that presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain, has attended even fewer Afghanistan-related Senate hearings over the past two years than Obama's one. Which is a nice way of saying, McCain, R-Ariz., the top Republican on the Senate Armed Service Committee, has attended zero of his committee's six hearings on Afghanistan over the last two years...

...The findings are surprising given the fact that the McCain campaign loudly criticized Obama this week for failing to schedule any hearings on Afghanistan in the last year and a half. Obama chairs the European Affairs Subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which has oversight of military operations in Afghanistan.


The American public believes the war in Afghanistan is far more essential to the war on terror than the war in Iraq: 51% believe the U.S. must win the war in Afghanistan to succeed in the war on terror, whereas only 34% feel the same about the Iraq war.
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Ok. Well then email Fox to step up their coverage of the republican candidate.
The thing is, Fox will send the same level of newspeople regardless of which candidate it is. They don't only send their big guns when it's McCain.

Fair and balanced.... and all that.
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The thing is, Fox will send the same level of newspeople regardless of which candidate it is. They don't only send their big guns when it's McCain.
Newspeople?

BTW, what qualifies as a "big gun" on Fox?
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There are some differences in Obama's trip to the Middle East/Europe vs McCains.

First, McCain was traveling on official Senate business and his aides worried that the trip would raise questions on whether he was using his Senate office to benefit his presidential campaign. (Personally I think this was an appropriate call, considering the circumstance.) They also worried that they did not have the manpower to handle a large press conference on an overseas swing. Therefore, they opted not to take the media along with them for the ride.

Also, the media outlets that wanted to cover the the newly elected GOP nominee had to travel on their own, with no guarantee of getting anywhere near the Senator. The few that did go had some difficulties; last minute foreign visas and struggles in getting around. The press rode stop-to-stop commercially, McCain was in a military plane. On the other hand, the Obama campaign invited the press and is handling all the logistics on this trip (including transportation).

McCain did do several media interviews during his trip as well as a press conference.
McCain has also enjoyed a very comfortable relationship with the press over many years (some call it a love affair). He has used it to his advantage and it has worked well for him.

I don't know why he is complaining now about the trip. He was the one that whipped up this storm, calling out Obama and then suggesting he go on this trip. So now of course the media is more interested in seeing Obama go! Still, it's a double edge sword. No doubt there is a heightened interest in Obama for different reasons. However, IMO, there are many people interested in seeing him trip up and make a mistake, which I feel will be magnified because of the intense scrutiny.

The coverage I see on the news may be different than what others see. Barack Obama is constantly talked about, yes. But anything he does is questioned, analyzed, picked apart, reevaluated and sometimes reinterpreted. I don't see the same when it comes to McCain.

I disagree that the news is there to follow him like a puppy dog because they share his views. The media is out for themselves. This is a big story and they are interested in getting scoops and making headlines (--->$$$). They are protecting their self interest.
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Well, it's about time Mr. O went to see for himself. I have a feeling he'll flip-flop on his views once he gets there and talks to our troops and the people.

Oh, sorry -- Mr. O doesn't call it flip-flopping -- he calls it 'refining his views.'
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Well, it's about time Mr. O went to see for himself. I have a feeling he'll flip-flop on his views once he gets there and talks to our troops and the people.

Oh, sorry -- Mr. O doesn't call it flip-flopping -- he calls it 'refining his views.'
I wish GWB would flip flop some. Oh, wait, he has. In the past several weeks, he's started doing the stuff Obama said he should have been doing all along. The stuff Bush previously referred to as "appeasement.: Guess it's only appeasement when the Democrats do it.
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Well, it's about time Mr. O went to see for himself. I have a feeling he'll flip-flop on his views once he gets there and talks to our troops and the people.

Oh, sorry -- Mr. O doesn't call it flip-flopping -- he calls it 'refining his views.'

As J.M. said today, had Obama gotten his way and the surge hadn't happened, the Iraq he's visiting today wouldn't be safe enough for him to visit.
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As J.M. said today, had Obama gotten his way and the surge hadn't happened, the Iraq he's visiting today wouldn't be safe enough for him to visit.
Actually, if Senator Obama had gotten his way there wouldn't be a reason for anyone to visit Iraq.
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As J.M. said today, had Obama gotten his way and the surge hadn't happened, the Iraq he's visiting today wouldn't be safe enough for him to visit.
John McCain is deluded.
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John McCain is deluded.
If that's how you feel, it might be a good idea to take a look at a photo of him for a few minutes every day over the next 109 days, just to acclimate yourself to his frequent appearance. I predict you'll be seeing a lot of him over the next 8 years!
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If that's how you feel, it might be a good idea to take a look at a photo of him for a few minutes every day over the next 109 days, just to acclimate yourself to his frequent appearance. I predict you'll be seeing a lot of him over the next 8 years!
We shall see, won't we?
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If that's how you feel, it might be a good idea to take a look at a photo of him for a few minutes every day over the next 109 days, just to acclimate yourself to his frequent appearance. I predict you'll be seeing a lot of him over the next 8 years!

Love it! And so true, so true!

And as for Mr. O going to six gyms and working out in three, what's he trying to prove? That he can work out? Is the only thing Mr. O has going for him is him trying to prove he's younger than Mr. McCain? Sad indeed.
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Love it! And so true, so true!

And as for Mr. O going to six gyms and working out in three, what's he trying to prove? That he can work out? Is the only thing Mr. O has going for him is him trying to prove he's younger than Mr. McCain? Sad indeed.
I guess when there isn't much of substance he has to say, he might as well try to look good. That's all I can figure out!
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I can not wait until nov.I have gotten really good and changing the tv the last 8 years so now i am even faster.It was wrong of them alll to follow O,and not M The news people are picking sides in this election.O to them a new toy .I do not listen to none of them.I all ready no who i am going to vote for so i do not listen to none of the noise.
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ITA!! I want to hear more about Senator McCain mentioning the country of Czechosolovokia in the current context when it hasn't existed as a country for years; I want to hear an analysis of his response to a vet who asked him why he didn't support legislation for veterans; i want to hear more about his chief economic advisor who said "we" are a country of whiners; I want to hear him justify how he can say the social security is robbing our children but collects almost $2,000 a month from that program? So many questions, so little time as the media must follow Senator Obama from gym to gym.
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ITA!! I want to hear more about Senator McCain mentioning the country of Czechosolovokia in the current context when it hasn't existed as a country for years; I