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__________________ "In life it is so hard to know which bridges to cross and which bridges to burn....." |
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Here is just another thing I thought was interesting. NOW does not support Gov. Palin... She apparently is a woman who doesn't support her own rights... Not Every Woman Supports Women's Rights: Statement on Sarah Palin |
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| Taking the choice issue out of the question, what exactly is liberal ideology?
__________________ Ana The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig? |
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Why would liberal women fight for rights for those who don't want them and often don't want anyone else to have them? All of you who want to give up your rights are free to do so. Just don't expect all of us to fall into lockstep with you.
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| Great point!! IMO Sarah Palin and most of us as women have benefited greatly from the "liberal" ideology of women like Gloria Steinem. I would venture to guess that even the conservative icons like Mona Cherin and Phyllis Schlafly benefited; if only by making careers and fortunes by opposing women's "rights". I suspect though it would be a cold day in heck before they or any of their sisters in conservatism would admit it.
__________________ Ana The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig? |
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You go to a "liberal" site; What the hell did you expect? No one should back Sarah Palin simply because she's a woman! You should back her because you share some of the same ideologies or positions on issues. Of course, Libs don't back/like Palin! She's a conservative for goodness sake.... I, like other posters here, have come to the conclusion that you just like to stir the pot and make trouble.
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I've gotta tell you, though... I don't think she's the only pot-stirrer around here. |
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I don't dislike Palin. I don't dislike McCain. I admire both of them and after listening to them speak I am more sure than ever that Sen Obama and the ticket he is on is the right one for me. Does it always have to be hate if you don't vote for the other guy?
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maybe not---but none of the others just really post off the wall crap! I mean good grief--she went to a LIBERAL site, Palin is most assuredly NOT a LIBERAL! What was she expecting!? That's kind of like me going into a Catholic church and expecting speaking and tongues and dancing in the aisles or maybe a few snake charmers! Or open a Dr. Pepper and being disaapointed when it doesn't taste like Sprite! I will hand it to her--she's consistent. You can always count on her to post something truly inflammatory, controversial or just outright bizarre.
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Well I always thought the "libs" and the womens rights people are for all women. I find the extreme criticism of Sarah Palin to be in contradiction to "womens rights". So I was trying to find something on the web that might explain why this is. The info I posted was one of the first things that came up. I sincerely thought liberal feminists were for ALL women not just liberal women. I was truly surprised that wasn't the case.
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| Yep--I realized that when I called you that I was wrong, and that it was completely inappropriate and rude. I vented on you when it wasn't you that I was upset/angry with--I shouldn't have called you that. I should have walked away from the computer. I can't change the fact that I said/typed it, but I did and do sincerely apologize. It was completely wrong of me.
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There are a lot of reasons that she will not get my support. I regard the church that she belongs to as dangerous. We have freedom of religion in this country so she's certainly free to worship as she wishes and believe what she wants to believe. One of the things that she believes is that Catholics are not Christians. Other things that she believes are that Biblical teachings are to be implemented throughout government. In other words, it would be her church's interpretation of the Bible. She believes that our attack on Iraq is just part of end times scenarios. I think that she deserves her Sarah Barracudu nickname. While mayor, she fired the police chief because after a spate of drunk driving deaths, he wanted the bars to close of 2 a.m. instead of 5 a.m. She did the same the thing to the town's librarian. Sarah wanted to go through the library and choose books to ban. She has done this to several other officials in her little town. I think that she's probably guilty of abuse of power in her current position. She has refused to testify. I think she needs to be transparent if she wants to run for public office. She is not only against choice, she's against birth control. I don't understand why she lies about the plane. It's cool that she listed it on EBay, but it never sold. She ended up using a broker and sold it for $600,000 less than the purchase price. She certainly didn't make money. Why lie? She claims to hate earmarks but hired a lobbyist, who is linked to Abramoff, and sure managed to bring a lot of pork to Alaska. |
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women's rights - Google Search "women's rights group" brought up: women's rights groups - Google Search Ah, here you go, google "liberal women's rights groups" -- the group you referenced is about half way down the page. liberal women's rights groups - Google Search Ah shopper, took a while but you found a site to support your "theory"!
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Here is my understanding of these issues. 1) Regarding the library, she did not ever ask that any books be banned. The librarian had signed a paper indicating loyalty to the incumbant mayor that Palin beat out. She and Palin did not have any warm feelings for each other from day one. Palin asked her if it was her policy - or could be policy - to remove materials that were (and I don't want to use a word here lest I mis-quite what I read, but 'inappropriate' is the word that comes to mind.... which I realize is an objective term). The woman either didn't respond, or responded that no, she was not open to that. And that was the end of it. She was never asked to remove any books. The librarian admitted this to the city council - that she had never actually been asked to remove anything at all. There is a list of books flying around the web that is supposedly the list Sarah Palin gave the librarian. It's bogus. Some of the books on the list weren't even published at the time that woman was the librarian. I also came across an article from a paper from Alaska that was dated back then - it's not a new article - and people were apparently at the council meeting where it was an issue complaining about the librarian being inept and lazy and not doing her job. 2) Regarding the eBay thing.... you called her a liar for saying that. Or at least, said she was lying, so that's pretty much the same thing. I haven't heard her say it sold on eBay. I've heard her say she didn't need it and she had it put on eBay. I've never heard her say it SOLD on eBay. The point of her telling that isn't supposed to be about the sales venue. The point is that she got rid of the lavish trappings the former governor had. The eBay thing makes a great sound byte and it's not untrue. Big deal if she had to then put it up for sale in another venue? 3) I don't see the earmarks being a big deal, personally. It's one thing to wish the process was different, but when that's what it is, it's what states have to do to get funding. It would've been irresponsible of her first as a mayor and then as a governror *not* to compete for those funds that the federal government is giving away. I think it's not the best way to go about things myself, but part of what I do as a WAHM is help non-profits find funding for projects... and sometimes a federal agency's grant money is a good fit. And sometimes the only way to get that money is through a lobbyist. The system sucks, but it's tax money paid to the feds by citizens of every state, and that's the way congress has chosen to distribute it. |
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