I received this in an e-mail today. I'd never seen it before. Thought it was worth posting.

Father/Daughter Talk

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and was very much in favor of 'the redistribution of wealth.'

She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.

One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the addition of more government welfare programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.

Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, 'How is your friend Audrey doing?'

She replied, 'Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties, and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.'

Her wise father asked his daughter, 'Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.'

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, 'That wouldn't be fair! I have worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!'

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently,'Welcome to the Republican party.'

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"Many people lose their tempers merely from seeing you keep yours..."

Daughter needs to share this with father:

Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican
By John Gray Cincinnati, Ohio

Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.


Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn’t think he should loose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republican’s would still be sitting in the dark)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.
He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, “We don’t need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have”.

By John Gray Cincinnati, Ohio - jgray7@cinci.rr.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it - Published July - 2004
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“Remember that a government big enough to give you
everything you want is also big enough to take away
everything you have.” Barry Goldwater

I just thought it was funny that the EPA who regulates so much of what Liberals take credit for was established by President Nixon. Also the history of the FDIC was started after the Great Depression by a Republican Senator & a Democat Representative.
Funny huh how people take credit for things they didn't do?

I totally agree. Labeling a program either liberal or conservative these days is the kiss of death depending on which side of the aisle you're on. Sadly the EPA is considered a liberal program today but wasn't when President Nixon established it in the 70s. IMO, that's the point of the Joe Republican letter.

The FDIC was established by the Glass Steagall Act. This bill was sponsored by Sen. Carter Glass, D., Va and Rep. Henry Steagall, D., Al.

Nixon did indeed create the EPA.

As a result of the Great Depression, Republican Senator Arthur Vandenberg and Democratic Representative Henry Steagall strove to restore public confidence after a massive series of bank runs in early 1933 caused 4,004 banks to close, with an average of $900,000 in deposits. These banks were merged into stronger banks; many months later, depositors received compensation for roughly 85% of their former deposits.[citation needed] Although President Roosevelt did not like the idea of the FDIC, as a former banker himself, he agreed to the measure to stop the hemorrhaging of the banks' available cash and the American people's trust in the U.S. Banking System.

This is where I got my information that it was a R and a D. Wikipedia

I liked both letters, and feel that if we dig deep enough we can find both Democrats AND Republicans who did both good and bad things for our country.

What I took from the Joe Republican letter is that he had a job. I have few problems giving help to someone who is trying to help themselves. My problem comes in when someone refuses to TRY and help themselves. There is WAY too much of that going on.

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America is not at war. Our military is at war. America is at the mall, or watching movie stars on TV.
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TLJ Women United in Spirit!!!

I love those they hit the nail on the head the thing I liked about BIll Clinton before was his welfare reform & yes I am totally against welfare but it seems he got alot of people off it when he was in office & I think Hilary would do the same not saying I am voting for her though but that would be one of the main reasons if I did

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mom of 3 greats girls

Well said!!

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"Many people lose their tempers merely from seeing you keep yours..."

What it really shows is how far right the Republicans have gone. I doubt if Nixon would be welcomed into the current party.

I'm sure Lincoln rolls over in his grave every time he thinks of being in the same party as Huckabee and GWB.

I really doubt Nixon would be a welcome addition to the Democratic party as well. I don't think the Republican's have gone "Far Right" at all, especially with the person who is securing the nomination for the republican party, in fact it's gone way too moderate for me. Even Bush with all the spending is not really a true conservative. If Obama does secure the nomination for Presidency though I will most likely be voting for him.

Well I don't think that Nixon ever had god tell him to be president. I'm pretty sure that he did not fund religious charities with federal money. I don't remember him ever being particularly worried about "family values." In fact a lot of his actions were downright liberal. If he was running today as a Republican, he wouldn't stand a chance of getting nominated. I found this little piece online.

"Throughout his presidency, he consistently betrayed conservative principles by opening relations with Communist China, negotiating arms control treaties with the Soviets, imposing wage and price controls, instituting affirmative action, expanding the regulatory state, and reducing defense spending."

He also created SSI, the EPA, and OSHA.

And according to WIKI, he introduced the Comprehensive Health Insurance Act. Nixon's plan would have mandated employers to purchase health insurance for their employees, and in addition provided a federal health plan like Medicaid that any American could join by paying on a sliding scale based on income.

Boy he's sounding pretty good right about now.

And yes they have gone far right as far as social issues are concerned. And few, if any, of them have ever been particularly thrifty. They talk a bunch about tax and spend liberals, but they are the ones doing the spending. It's the paying the bills they have problems with.

[QUOTEAnd yes they have gone far right as far as social issues are concerned. And few, if any, of them have ever been particularly thrifty. They talk a bunch about tax and spend liberals, but they are the ones doing the spending. It's the paying the bills they have problems with.[/quote]

There is no longer room in the Republican party for a moderate. They have all been called RINOs and driven out of the party. There is only room for the far right fringe.

I would argue that the GOP does not only contains the extreme social conservatives but also extreme economic conservatives.

I would hope there were more "extreme economic conservatives."

How hard is it to understand that America is broke.."no money". We are in debt, the banks are in debt, most of the American people are in debt.

Apparently way too hard for George Bush, that's for sure.

And for alot of Americans.

This article was written in 1964..nowdays change the number from billions to Trillions. We never seem to learn from our mistakes.
The Importance of Being in Debt - TIME

Economic conservatives believe that success will be found in an unregulated totally free economy. They also wrongly believe that cutting taxes increases revenue even though there is not a single instance where that has ever happened. They believe in no oversite whatsover. Therefore, any gains in medium income have all gone to the top 10%.

We are broke for two main reasons. First, a tax cut was given (mostly for those in the upper 10%) during a time of war. And, secondly, contracts are being awarded without bidding to partisan supporters on a "cost plus" basis.

You need to get a clue.

We are broke because of several reasons..the top 1 reason is because we have not learned to "live within our means".
We can not continue to "tax" people on what they make "the fruits of their labor" and give to all the social programs to try to give everyone the same.
Cutting out the income tax..some do not understand because they"get back most of what they pay"..for those of us that actually pay an income tax means we carry the burden of these social programs, while the ones that benefit get a free ride. If I get to keep more of my own money that I work for then I can spend it as I chose. Which helps the economy by having me spend or save money. Saving money in a bank helps the economy also..that is where they get their money to loan to others to by a house, car, etc.
Tax cuts alone will not work, you have to cut spending. Anyone/Anything that tries to save more has to include spending cuts.
People and government need to understand you can not have everything..things do come with a price tag.
One of the best things we can do for our children is to teach them how to stay out of debt.

Edited to add: Yes I do think that an unregulated totally free economy is better than what we have now. The Federal Reserve has too much control. they cause the inflation and deinflation, the bubbles.

What we need to do is give everyone an equal opportunity to succeed in life. Social p