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Old 12-01-2007, 08:12 AM
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:35 AM
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How about "rather not say" ?? lol
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:26 AM
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What about those who are not party loyal, just vote for the candidates that they feel are the best for the job at the time.....?
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thats what I do I just vote for whoever I think will be the best so I guess thats independent isnt it?? I dont know I could be wrong I am not huge on politics but am learning more
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For the purpose of a simple poll like this..."Independent" would mean that you can vote any way without loyality to a specific party and might change your mind at anytime!

"Other" might be the same or a link to a party like "The Green Party", etc. or some other group.

Just my opinion...
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:55 PM
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I went with independent. I think I am registered Republican but I vote for who I think will do the best job, not who someone else chose.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:42 PM
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I'm registered Independent but I tend to go more towards Democrat. Although I have no problem voting for a republican if I thought he/she could do the best job.
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:02 PM
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I'm registered Independent (been meaning to change that for YEARS, just haven't gotten in to the court house to do it), but vote primarily Republican. I GOTTA change my party affiliation this year.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:34 PM
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:54 PM
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I am an independant that leans heavily Democratic.
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Old 01-20-2008, 07:06 PM
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ABR - anybody but republican
I agree no Republican. However if Obama wipes out Hillary than I'll probably have to vote for Snoopy.
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god's party - republican
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:29 AM
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I'm pretty sure God prefers his name capitalized.
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:30 AM
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Hilarious! Especially in light of all the sex scandals and money scandals that plague and continue to plague the republicans. One would think that God would chose more carefully who to represent him, wouldn't you? One would think that he would chose people who actually not only read his book but practice it instead of just mouthing the words.

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Thinking PUM is on to something -- God needed a place where all the rascals could come together and he named it the republican party.
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Now there's a charmer.

I didn't have him on my spread sheet of mostly congressional sexual misdeeds that have happened since 1980, and mostly committed by the "R" party. I have a list of over 40, some of them pretty bad, and I'm sure I've missed a few. The Dems seem to lean more towards affairs and the Repubs more towards the kinky stuff, gays and children for example. All the stuff they spend so much time preaching against.
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dems want to kill babies what more is needed for a traditional woman to say?
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:59 PM
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Now there's a charmer.

I didn't have him on my spread sheet of mostly congressional sexual misdeeds that have happened since 1980, and mostly committed by the "R" party. I have a list of over 40, some of them pretty bad, and I'm sure I've missed a few. The Dems seem to lean more towards affairs and the Repubs more towards the kinky stuff, gays and children for example. All the stuff they spend so much time preaching against.

You need to read "The Brotherhood of the Disappearing Pants: A Field Guide to Conservative Sex Scandals".

Amazon.com: The Brotherhood of the Disappearing Pants: A Field Guide to Conservative Sex Scandals: Books: Joseph Minton Amann,Tom Breuer

Before any conservative posters have a fit -- as wildwood said, both parties have their scandels but republicans are so much more "creative" both in their deeds and their excuses (wide stance Senator Craig).
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Old 01-23-2008, 05:41 AM
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dems want to kill babies what more is needed for a traditional woman to say?

OMG, she figured out the initiation ritual!

PUM, you're not even a very creative troll, are you? Can't you find some new material?
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I'm not going to defend anyone on the list but the fact that Messrs Bush, Cheney and Gonzales are not on the list leads me to question its believability.
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:46 AM
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[quote=ana21;2944149]I'm not going to defend anyone on the list but the fact that Messrs Bush, Cheney and Gonzales are not on the list leads me to question its believability. [/QUOTE

It is only a list of 10..but 4 of them are running to be president. Rep. and Dem.
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I'm not going to defend anyone on the list but the fact that Messrs Bush, Cheney and Gonzales are not on the list leads me to question its believability. [/QUOTE

It is only a list of 10..but 4 of them are running to be president. Rep. and Dem.
It's title is list of 10 "most wanted" corrupt politicians for 2007

As I said, I'm not going to defend any of them but just a quick read with no research and my limited knowledge of some of the "charges" mentioned, IMO, most pale in comparison to what the individuals not on the list have been responsible for both before they were elected and after. Mr. Bush was a master of "land deals" and other questionable business dealings during his time in Texas. Mr. Cheney's ties to Haliburton are if not criminal, at the very least morally and ethically questionable to put it mildly. Mr. Gonzales is, IMO. not only crooked but stupid,

Maybe Judicial Watch has a master criminal list naming Bush, Cheney and Gonzales.

I'm more then prepared to argue the merits of all of the charges against the individuals on the list and think the publication of such material is helpful if you do additional research. Again, I'm not excusing any of the individuals on the list just questioning the benchmarks for the choices.
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Old 01-23-2008, 10:01 AM
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You need to read "The Brotherhood of the Disappearing Pants: A Field Guide to Conservative Sex Scandals".

Amazon.com: The Brotherhood of the Disappearing Pants: A Field Guide to Conservative Sex Scandals: Books: Joseph Minton Amann,Tom Breuer

Before any conservative posters have a fit -- as wildwood said, both parties have their scandels but republicans are so much more "creative" both in their deeds and their excuses (wide stance Senator Craig).
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This list is from a radical right wing group. They contain unfounded allegations. An accurate list would have to contain Sen. Stevens, R, Alaska, Rep. Doolitle, R, Ca., Tom Delay, R, Tx, Alberto Gonzales, Karl Rove, George Bush, Dick Cheney. How did William Jefferson, D, La. not make this list? Although I do believe that Larry Craig should stop lying to himself and everyone else, I have never heard any allegations against him of corruption.
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The Judicial Watch ..at least they also going after the current adminstration. Just google..there are other resources than wikipedia. The list from other years(2206 and earlier) DOES include some people that have been mentioned in other posts.

Justing interesting to see how corrupt public officials are.

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"Judicial Watch is an American government watchdog organization founded in 1994.[1] The group uses litigation as its primary tool and came to public attention after filing 18 lawsuits against the administration of Democratic U.S. President Bill Clinton and figures in the Clinton administration. The organization was the first to expose John Huang's illegal fund-raising activities relating to the 1996 United States campaign finance controversy (also known as Chinagate).[2]

They have also received a great deal of funding from Clinton critics, including $7.74 million from conservative anti-Clinton billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife.[3] This led Clinton administration officials to accuse them of "abusing the judicial system for partisan ends".[4]

More recently, Judicial Watch has also sued the George W. Bush administration for access to minutes of Vice President Cheney's Energy Task Force[5] and has also sued the Secret Service to force the release of logs detailing corrupt lobbyist Jack Abramoff's visits to the White House.[6]"

Judicial Watch describes itself as "a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation" which "promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law" and "advocates high standards of ethics and morality in our nation’s public life and seeks to ensure that political and judicial officials do not abuse the powers entrusted to them by the American people".[7]

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The group uses litigation as its primary tool and came to public attention after filing 18 lawsuits against the administration of Democratic U.S. President Bill Clinton and figures in the Clinton administration.

More recently, Judicial Watch has also sued the George W. Bush administration for access to minutes of Vice President Cheney's Energy Task Force[5] and has also sued the Secret Service to force the release of logs detailing corrupt lobbyist Jack Abramoff's visits to the White House.[6]"
Gee they sued Clinton 18 times and Bush twice.. Sounds fair and balanced. If they need some suggestions as to where they can possibly find more reasons for suing Bush, I'm sure we can come up with a list.
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Richard Mellon Scaife is as partisan as you can get. He is the one who funded the "Arkansas Project". They are as non-partisan as Fox news is fair and balanced.
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I am a Republican as of 8.5 years ago. Prior to that I was a Democrat for 25 years. Doesn't mean I won't cross party lines when voting, just as I did when I was a Democrat, I vote for who I think will do the better job, or at times it is who is the "lesser of two evils".
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you have bambino in the military? if not then zip it. who's protecting you? who is spreading the Lord's word over there? ^^


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you have bambino in the military? if not then zip it. who's protecting you? who is spreading the Lord's word over there? ^^
I think you should go, PUM. They need someone like you over there.
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you have bambino in the military? if not then zip it. who's protecting you? who is spreading the Lord's word over there? ^^
Nowhere in the tradtional woman's handbook does it say that you can tell someone to "zip it". Traditional women are not allowed to be rude to others, in fact they are not allowed to speak unless spoken to. And should someone speak to them, they are always to be polite. You are in grave danger of losing your TWA card. Let's hope the organization does not hear about your transgressions.
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I'm pretty sure God prefers his name capitalized.
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Republican that leans way Right.....And I plan on staying that way....I have a nephew on his second tour in Iraq...He is very proud of what he is doing and so am I...He and all the other soldiers are true Americans.....they are over there protecting us and the Iraqis and we are at the mall....Sherri
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Republican that leans way Right.....And I plan on staying that way....I have a nephew on his second tour in Iraq...He is very proud of what he is doing and so am I...He and all the other soldiers are true Americans.....they are over there protecting us and the Iraqis and we are at the mall....Sherri

Does your nephew find his tour in Iraq romantic?

BTW, careful how far right you lean, I'm predicting bruising and a concussion when your right side hits the rocks you're standing on.
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Does your nephew find his tour in Iraq romantic?

BTW, careful how far right you lean, I'm predicting bruising and a concussion when your right side hits the rocks you're standing on.
He is very proud of what he is doing and couldnt wait to get back over there....he knows what really going on over there....he sees the good that has been done....and he is a Marine and proud to serve his country....because of young men like him and our forefathers...you have the right to state your opinion without reprecussion ....He is a HERO in my book and so are all the soldiers...We owe our lives to them...I think you could at least show some respect for their love of country....and the job they do....But of course you have to have respect for America before you can respect our soldiers...so what was I thinking....Sherri
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He is very proud of what he is doing and couldnt wait to get back over there....he knows what really going on over there....he sees the good that has been done....and he is a Marine and proud to serve his country....because of young men like him and our forefathers...you have the right to state your opinion without reprecussion ....He is a HERO in my book and so are all the soldiers...We owe our lives to them...I think you could at least show some respect for their love of country....and the job they do....But of course you have to have respect for America before you can respect our soldiers...so what was I thinking....Sherri
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I do not vote on party lines i vote for what the person running for stands for. i was going to vote for ron paul in 08 but he has no chance so i am going to vote for a friend of mine thats running for president he has no chance either but i am loyal to my friends so i am voting for him.his name is John Taylor Bowles he is running as a independent .
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I think you could at least show some respect for their love of country....and the job they do....But of course you have to have respect for America before you can respect our soldiers...so what was I thinking....Sherri

NOTHING in Ana's post was disrespectful of your nephew or of the soldiers. I guess when your knee jerked, it hit your head so you couldn't read her post. Or perhaps you're unaware of our brilliant president's recent description of war as "romantic"? Did Fox not cover that?
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Republican that leans way Right.....And I plan on staying that way....I have a nephew on his second tour in Iraq...He is very proud of what he is doing and so am I...He and all the other soldiers are true Americans.....they are over there protecting us and the Iraqis and we are at the mall....Sherri
We are all true Americans. He is, you are and so am I. You can try to convince yourself and others that people who disagree with you are not true Americans, but it's just not a fact. I love America as much or more than anyone. But loving this country does not mean that I have to blindly go along with poor leadership. It does not mean that I have to keep quiet in the face of the ridiculous assertions that to disagree is un-American. It does mean that it's my duty to speak up and voice my opinion on what is right and what is wrong. And to do what I can to make this country a better place, whether you or your nephew agree with me or not. You are entitled to you opinions, but so am I. And mine are no less valuable than yours and no less true American.

Your nephew is not over there protecting us. He might have been convinced that he is, but he's not. He is protecting some misbegotten idea of a liar president that Saddam needed to be removed. He is not protecting the Iraqis. If you think he is, then ask the untold thousands who have been killed if they feel protected. Oh that's right. You can't ask them, they're dead! Then maybe you could ask the untold thousands of family members who remain, left to get by without their loved ones or have to take care of their maimed loved ones, if they feel protected. I have a feeling that the answer wouldn't please you.

As for being at the mall. I'm not sure exactly what that has to do with Iraq and whether your nephew should be there. I have been to a mall about twice in the last year, so maybe I have missed some special activities going on there that imbue a person with true Americanism. Perhaps a code word or secret handshake?
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As for being at the mall. I'm not sure exactly what that has to do with Iraq and whether your nephew should be there. I have been to a mall about twice in the last year, so maybe I have missed some special activities going on there that imbue a person with true Americanism. Perhaps a code word or secret handshake?
Don't you remember? Bush's response to 9/11 -- besides attacking a country that had nothing to do with it -- was to tell Americans to go shopping.

Clearly, your failure to be at the mall daily -- DAILY! -- is grossly unpatriotic. Please turn your "Made in China" lapel pin in to the thought police.
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Don't you remember? Bush's response to 9/11 -- besides attacking a country that had nothing to do with it -- was to tell Americans to go shopping.

Clearly, your failure to be at the mall daily -- DAILY! -- is grossly unpatriotic. Please turn your "Made in China" lapel pin in to the thought police.
Damn...I had forgotten about the shopping as therapy suggestion.

Does going to a restaurant with a great happy hour that happens to be in the mall but with an outside entrance count as going to the mall? If it does, then I may have been in error in my number of mall visits. But who can count after a really great happy hour? And I just got done explaining that I'm a true American so I'm keeping my "Made in China" lapel pin, because after all, I got it at Walmart.
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We are being told the same thing now..go shopping with your stimulus check.
Same as Bush said in 2001 before and after 9/11.
Country was in a recession then.
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I have been to a mall about twice in the last year, so maybe I have missed some special activities going on there that imbue a person with true Americanism. Perhaps a code word?
It’s... “new-cue-lahr.”
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