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Old 02-01-2008, 02:20 PM
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Can you help me?

Hi Ya'll,

I need your help if you will.
I'd like your input as to the "ideals" of your political party.
(without names of candidates or former representatives)

I don't want to get mired down in a debate. I will listen/read and respect each one of your rights to your opinion.
So all I'm asking for is information from your point of view. What is the foundation of your party's beliefs?
My reply will simply be thank you for sharing. You don't have to justify the reason, in fact it may be a part of the party's system that you don't back 100% percent but that may be something the majority of people that back that party vote on an issue. (i.e. abortion rights - right to life-right to choose) is a smaller issue when combined with so many others that make people want to vote one party or another.

I just want to see if I can gather information to use as talking points with my children as to why someone would support a specific political party's agenda.


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Old 02-01-2008, 04:48 PM
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Republican party
limited federal government
socially conservative
preserving individual rights

Something you might be interested in reading
National Black Republican Association - DYK-Why MLK was a Republican
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:01 AM
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Republican party
limited federal government
socially conservative
preserving individual rights

Something you might be interested in reading
National Black Republican Association - DYK-Why MLK was a Republican
I would have thought that you identified more as a Libertarian.

Martin Luther King, Sr. was indeed a Republican until 1960 when he switched parties.
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:38 AM
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I identify with the Democratic party because I believe in equal opportunity for everyone. I believe that rights of individuals should always take precedent over that of corporations. I believe that our government should be working to protect the rights of individuals. I believe that the government shouldn't tell me whom I can or cannot marry. Because one corrupts the other, I believe that religion and goverment must remain separate. I believe in free speech.

I believe that only the federal government can assure a quality education for America's children. (As we say in SC, thank God for Mississippi) I think that Capitalism would be great without blind greed. Since we'll never have that, I believe that the federal government must regulate industry in order to enforce fair labor standards and sound practice.

Those are my general beliefs.
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Old 02-03-2008, 01:14 PM
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I would have thought that you identified more as a Libertarian.

Martin Luther King, Sr. was indeed a Republican until 1960 when he switched parties.

Just making it clear as to whom I was talking about.
I was talking about Martin Luther King, Jr...he did not switch parties ..google search you will find lots of references to proof that point.
"During the civil rights era of the1960's, it was the Democrats who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the protestors were fighting."
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:44 PM
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Just making it clear as to whom I was talking about.
I was talking about Martin Luther King, Jr...he did not switch parties ..google search you will find lots of references to proof that point.
"During the civil rights era of the1960's, it was the Democrats who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the protestors were fighting."
I don't see a single credible source to indicate that MLK Jr. was a Republican. I do not know why he would have campaigned for JFK if he was.

By the way, when I think of the Dixiecrats, I think of George Wallace and Strom Thurmond.

The Republican Party was certainly founded with noble goals in mind but have embraced the opposite since its founding.
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:14 PM
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I don't see a single credible source to indicate that MLK Jr. was a Republican. I do not know why he would have campaigned for JFK if he was.

By the way, when I think of the Dixiecrats, I think of George Wallace and Strom Thurmond.

The Republican Party was certainly founded with noble goals in mind but have embraced the opposite since its founding.
I do think the "National Black Republican Association" and "The Black Republican Magazine" are credible sources.
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:25 PM
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I do think the "National Black Republican Association" and "The Black Republican Magazine" are credible sources.


From The Duke: Was Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. a Republican?
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:29 PM
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The Enquirer - On blacks and politics and political parties
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:34 PM
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I do think the "National Black Republican Association" and "The Black Republican Magazine" are credible sources.
When I consider the 2004 campaign, I cannot find any GOP association or publication to be a credible source of information.

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Old 02-03-2008, 04:36 PM
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A conservative blog?
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:48 PM
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A conservative blog?

It seems to be but this particular entry doesnt seem so conservative to me. Basically what I was trying to get across is that the political parties have evolved through the years. And that MLK Jr. may have been a Republican at one time because his ancestors were. This was basically because Lincoln was a Republican and he freed the slaves. The Dixiecrats were Democrats but when Kennedy and Johnson became involved in civil rights, the white Southerners(Dixiecrats) left the Democrats to become Republicans. And the Blacks left the Republicans to become Democrats.

In the 2nd article I posted, it quoted MLK Jr. as declaring his neutrality and belonging to neither party. His father MLK Sr. was a Republican but when Kennedy helped him get his son out of jail, he promised Kennedy 10,000,000 votes.

The Republican party may claim MLK Jr. was a Republican but at no time in history has the Republican party supported Blacks.
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Old 02-03-2008, 05:07 PM
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The article does not specify Jr. or Sr. and I have stated that Sr. was a Republican. Leonard Pitts is known to me. But, I did find this passagew interesting:

"To understand why it is not, rephrase John's question a tad more honestly. Make it: Why do blacks not support conservatism? Then the answer becomes simple: At no point in history when black folks were beset, bedraggled and fighting for their very existence have conservatives - whether you're talking Democrats of the 19th and early 20th centuries or Republicans now - been caught taking our side. From the abolition of slavery through Jim Crow through anti-lynching legislation through integration, through voting rights through civil rights through affirmative action, conservatives have always stood in opposition"

I'm afraid Lee Atwater messed up the party's original tenets.
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Old 02-03-2008, 05:08 PM
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It seems to be but this particular entry doesnt seem so conservative to me. Basically what I was trying to get across is that the political parties have evolved through the years. And that MLK Jr. may have been a Republican at one time because his ancestors were. This was basically because Lincoln was a Republican and he freed the slaves. The Dixiecrats were Democrats but when Kennedy and Johnson became involved in civil rights, the white Southerners(Dixiecrats) left the Democrats to become Republicans. And the Blacks left the Republicans to become Democrats.

In the 2nd article I posted, it quoted MLK Jr. as declaring his neutrality and belonging to neither party. His father MLK Sr. was a Republican but when Kennedy helped him get his son out of jail, he promised Kennedy 10,000,000 votes.

The Republican party may claim MLK Jr. was a Republican but at no time in history has the Republican party supported Blacks.
"no time in history has the Republican party supported blacks"?

The first republican president was Abraham Lincoln and he did nothing to help blacks?
"The Republican Party was born in the early 1850's by anti-slavery activists"

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The Columbus Dispatch : Republican Party consistently has supported blacks

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Old 02-03-2008, 05:20 PM
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"no time in history has the Republican party supported blacks"?

The first republican president was Abraham Lincoln and he did nothing to help blacks?
"The Republican Party was born in the early 1850's by anti-slavery activists"

I should have said recent history. Sorry. I am just learning about the history of the parties and find it very interesting. So I will probably make mistakes in my learning and writing.
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