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Old 02-14-2008, 09:20 AM
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Question Military giving money to NON WAR politicians

I can't find where this was referenced in the past posts. I know it's there, just buried somewhere.....

Anyway, can someone please show me the data you are using to come to this conclusion that "many military members are giving to Anti war candidates".

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Old 02-14-2008, 09:29 AM
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I can't find where this was referenced in the past posts. I know it's there, just buried somewhere.....

Anyway, can someone please show me the data you are using to come to this conclusion that "many military members are giving to Anti war candidates".

thank you.
numbers may have changed now..but the candidates will not report again for a while.
Q4 FEC Reports: Ron Paul Receives More Military Donations Than All Other Republicans Combined — Ron Paul 2008

These are numbers based on the last reported FEC reports ending in Dec 07
Ron Paul: 1160 $249k
John McCain: 438 $83k
Mike Huckabee: 126 $37k
Mitt Romney: 126 $24k
Barack Obama: 443 $76k
Hillary Clinton: 154 $41k

A more recent article from ABC Feb 4, 2008
Political Punch
"The Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks campaign cash, looks at the 2007 money-raising and finds the following:"
"In the 4th quarter of 2007, individuals in the Army, Navy and Air Force made those branches of the armed services the No. 13, No. 18 and No. 21, contributing industries, respectively. War opponent Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, received the most from donors in the military, collecting at least $212,000 from them. Another war opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, was second with about $94,000."

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Old 02-16-2008, 10:31 AM
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This is a video from CNN yesterday. Surprise to see anything about Ron Paul in the media.
This segment also talks about Obama.

YouTube - Ron Paul receives most donations from our troops
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Old 02-16-2008, 10:39 AM
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Forrestlayne, thanks for the links. While I can't dispute the fact that they gave the most to Ron Paul, based on these numbers, where does it say they support him JUST for being anti-war? I guess you can draw any conclusion, just in how you look at it.

I think Ron Paul has many great ideas, unfortunately, I think he lacks the back bone needed to be the President of the United States. I base this on watching him in debates.
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Old 02-16-2008, 11:13 AM
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I do not why miltary people support him. He does want to build a strong miltary here in the US instead of overseas. He does want better medical/money benefits for the miltary. He wants to secure our borders.He believes in people's right to bear arms.
He voted NO in Congress on going into Iraq.
I guess there is something in his message that some miltary people like.

As far as having the backbone to be President, I believe his record in Congress proves that he stands on principles. He follows the Constitution when making his desicions to vote for a bill.
On Thursday he did not walk out with most of the other Republicans in Congress. Also on Thursday also voted to support the resoultion to hold White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former White House lawyer Harriet Miers in contempt in its probe of the 2006 firings of U.S. attorneys.

House targets Bush aides; GOP stages walkout - CNN.com

He is a quiet, patient man but that does not mean that he would let other countries run over us. I do not think he would rush to war unless he had a declaration of war from Congress.
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Old 02-16-2008, 11:40 AM
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I do not why miltary people support him. He does want to build a strong miltary here in the US instead of overseas. He does want better medical/money benefits for the miltary. He wants to secure our borders.He believes in people's right to bear arms.
He voted NO in Congress on going into Iraq.
I guess there is something in his message that some miltary people like.

As far as having the backbone to be President, I believe his record in Congress proves that he stands on principles. He follows the Constitution when making his desicions to vote for a bill.
On Thursday he did not walk out with most of the other Republicans in Congress. Also on Thursday also voted to support the resoultion to hold White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former White House lawyer Harriet Miers in contempt in its probe of the 2006 firings of U.S. attorneys.

House targets Bush aides; GOP stages walkout - CNN.com

He is a quiet, patient man but that does not mean that he would let other countries run over us. I do not think he would rush to war unless he had a declaration of war from Congress.
thanks for all that info. I did like what I heard from him when I saw him on TV. He thinks the US should basically get its own back yard in order before going into someone else's, I liked that idea. I never did fully understand why we send money to countries overseas when we have our own people here that are so in need. I guess it makes for good relations, and the better we make other countries, the better the world??? Uggghhh, just so disgruntled with things in general...........
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