village voice > news > David Mamet: Why I Am No Longer a 'Brain-Dead Liberal' by David Mamet

For PUM to read:

Go Cheney Yourself.

village voice hmmmm, is that the same village in Texas that is missing an idiot???????????

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Also the media is so biased to liberals its sickening...but the libs would never admit that...Just a few examples:

For Second Night, ABC and NBC Refuse to Utter Spitzer's Party ID --3/12/2008-- Media Research Center

Arrow' Governor 'Eliot Ness' Spitzer (?-NY) --3/11/2008-- Media Research Center

Isnt that amazing??? When A republican does something stupid like this they always make sure the big R is by is name and even introduce them as Republican senator,representatve or whatever....

The media is so bias they really turn my stomach Anyone who cant see that is blind...Sherri

Of course they admire Michelle Obama for her trashing of the United States...so why would I be supprised??????

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- Ronald Reagan

I know, its shameful. I for sure didn't know Mark Foley was a democrat and Larry Craig wasn't affiliated with either party until I watched Fox News.

LOL They always seem to mess up the party affiliations. Then again I remember reading a study that said that something like 70% of FOX News folks were STILL unaware that Saddam and 9/11 were not linked. I also remeber reading that when FOX News was sued that they actually used the defense that they don't have any requirement to be truthful in reporting. Once they used that as a defense it should have lost its liscence to call itself News.


As for the idea that the media is liberal, that is just absurd. A liberal media wouldn't have fallen down on the job and would have actually taken the time to look at whether there was a just cause to rush to war. A liberal media would not have bothered to hold back information on domestic spying or any other number of things the media has done that has actually enabled this President(who by the way is NOT liberal).

OH GOOD GOD! The media swings whichever way is going to bring in the most viewers!
Anyone who can't see THAT is blind....

Quite frankly, stupidity doesn't know party lines. Corruption and malfeasance (sp?) occurs on both sides of the party line. We all watch the same news and take out of it what we want to--that's human nature. Rarely, if ever, do you see a news report that presents both sides of story in an equitable fashion. GET REAL. Are you so blinded by your hatred for all things that are NOT Republican that you can't see reality anymore??

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Blind? I question who's blind. Have you listened to the radio lately? Have you read the Wall Street Journal? How about TV, with all the bias on Fox and CNBC? I won't bore you with the listings for Fox since I'm pretty sure you are a regular. But just on CNBC there are people like, Charlie Gasparino, John Harwood, Tim Russert, Melissa Lee, just to name a few. On MSN there is Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, and the now fired Tucker Carlson. Then there are the regular guests like Pat Buchanon who is on so much that he might as well have a show and that nasty British guy whose name eludes me.

At about the same time you were watching them not mention the party of Spitzer, I was online trying to find the party for Joe Bruno who was busy on TV, tearing Spitzer to pieces, only to find he was a Republican. I didn't hear it mentioned when he first appeared. In fact, I'm not sure I have heard it since. It was only when the vitriol became so intense that I decided to find out what party he was representing. Not being from New York, I pay little attention to the politicians from that state until they manage to gain some media attention for whatever reason, so I was unaware of Joe Bruno. Turns out he is someone I should be aware of.

You keep saying it often enough and people will believe it. There is very little media that is left leaning. The right leaning media is alive and well. And the right wing machine is going to keep spewing about liberal bias because it seems to work. It takes peoples mind off more important things and gives them something to piss and moan about. Meanwhile the right continues to buy radio stations, tv stations, newspapers and inundate us with their bias, all the while telling us that the bias is from the other guy, not them.

From an interview with Lincoln Chaffee on the run up to the war:

When the president first started talking about Iraq, it was just met with incredulity. There was no connection between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. The intelligence was questionable. But there was all this fear from 9/11.

Colin Powell was the coup de grace with his testimony at the United Nations. And you heard it here in Rhode Island. People were saying, 'Well Colin Powell presented all this evidence about weapons of mass destruction and Saddam being a threat.' He sold the war for them.

The administration was just brilliant with their marketing. I still marvel at the weapons of mass destruction. It never got defined. What were the weapons they were talking about? But it worked. People believed these weapons existed. People got the feeling that the [terrorists] were going to come down the shores and onto the main streets and that we were in danger.

On the fourth estate:

I thought The New York Times was good. The Washington Post was okay. But, for the most part, the press went along. I can remember the talk shows, Imus and the like. The only people they were interviewing were war proponents. I used to listen to Imus driving into work and I used to scream: 'Can you get one person opposed to the war?' There were 23 of us in the Senate. You couldn't talk to Barbara Boxer? Russ Feingold? Paul Wellstone?

Lincoln Chafee Interview: "Everyone Was Silent" On Iraq - Politics on The Huffington Post

Is there a way to talk about politics without attacking one another? Can we be civilized, present our view and truly listen to what the other party has to say? Can we look at the facts, ALL the facts, not just the ones that help our position? Please remember that as a nation we fail or succeed together regardless of party affiliation. I'm not trying to say we shouldn't debate, I'm trying to say that we need to be respectful. I understand there is alot of passion in politics, but no matter how much passion you have you still only get 1 vote.

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I am not blindsided by hatred at all....I dont hate anyone, regardless of their political affliations..How dare you judge me and assume that I would be that shallow?? I didnt insult anyone..I just spoke the truth as I see it...just as you have the rigth to...I dont insult you and assume things about you from a post you make.....YOu have insulted my integrity an I dont appreciate it......And by the way I see just fine....Sherri

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I agree with Sher. The news media on the 3 major networks are liberal, as is CNN, except for Glen Beck. Name me some newscasters that are conservative on one of those stations! Most newspapers around the country are liberal. I know the one in our city is. And they let it be known they're liberal. But the newspaper is good to use as a ground covering for the weeds in my flower beds!

I agree that Fox is conservative. But they do have both sides represented when an issue is debated. (If you don't watch them, then you wouldn't know that, of course).

I don't think anyone assumed anything. I think people have judged you -- as you have judged me -- from the posts you've made over the years.

Read post number nine. I already listed conservatives. CNBC in general, is more conservative that even Fox.

Better yet, why don't you tell me where I can listen to anyone liberal on radio in the St. Louis area. Tell me which newscasters you consider liberal. I have a feeling your definition of liberal is different than mine.

As far as Fox having both sides represented. That's usually a joke. Their idea of a liberal is having someone like Juan Williams or Mara Liason, who are by no stretch liberals, and then the moderater and the right-wing guest gang up on the pseudo-liberal. Now that's really fair and balanced.

The conservative definition of liberal is anyone who isn't in lock step with their ALL of their ideas. Anyone who strays from the ideology in the slightest is considered suspect. Ask John McCain.

Colbert is right, facts are liberal.

I dont think I have ever accused you of hating someone....yes we have disagreed on issues but I have never assumed or accused you of being consumed by hate......By the way, I am not really sure how our posts even concerned you??? You just always have to put your two cents in when it comes to me Sherri

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Media Bias Basics

http://www.whatliberalmedia.com/intro.pdf

There you go, ignoring what I said and making up answers to things that weren't said.

I am so sorry for intruding on your very private conversation. Whatever was I thinking?

From that site:

What, you couldn't find something from Fox claiming the media has a liberal bias? It would be just as believable.

Having a townhall.com group tell you something is liberal is like having Limbaugh tell you. It's a biased group selling its own biased viewpoint.

Funny how Fox News is always the one listed as conservative. Hmmm..... why don't some of you mention NBC, ABC, CBS news as conservative? Want to know why? It's because they're not! I honestly can't name a single conservative reporter on those stations. In addition, we could add most newspapers. As to another poster who asked where she could listen to a liberal on the radio in the St. Louis area -- well, I have no idea because I don't live in that area. Perhaps the poster could do a search and find one. I'm sure there are plenty on public radio.

And as for "it's a biased group selling its own biased viewpoint", I'm sure you speak the same of the major network channels because that's exactly what they're doing, too.

Liberals speak as though the conservatives have no rights at all as far as news channels and Fox News. Yes, I have rights. And one of my rights is to turn the channel at 6:30 every evening and not watch CBS, NBC and ABC national news!!

I'm glad you enjoy your slanted news. I don't mention NBC, ABC or CBS as conservative because, thank God, they're not. Some call them liberal; I consider them much closer to neutral, especially when compared to such hacks as the people on Fox. Reporters shouldn't BE liberal or conservative, they should be neutral!

LOL! That WAS a funny one! You just crack me up! Talk about being narrow-minded. It amazes me how some people just follow whatever is given to them by 'hacks' (your word) on ABC, NBC and CBS. Katie Couric is a joke!! Don't you just want to step out of line once in a while and go against the liberal flow? Maybe that's why so many liberals seem so angry all the time. Their energy is just wanting to burst out and say 'I can think for myself -- I don't need the liberal media to do it for me!!'

You think I'm the angry one?

Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist / UCLA Newsroom

"These are just a few of the surprising findings from a UCLA-led study, which is believed to be the first successful attempt at objectively quantifying bias in a range of media outlets and ranking them accordingly."

ITA. Judging by the postings on this thread, replace the word conservative for liberal in these 3 sentences and she hit the nail on the head:

"Don't you just want to step out of line once in a while and go against the liberal flow? Maybe that's why so many liberals seem so angry all the time. Their energy is just wanting to burst out and say 'I can think for myself -- I don't need the liberal media to do it for me!!'"

Some of us need to take a chill pill.

Sure do! Look at your posts! (Oh, and you said it -- not me -- about yourself)

That study has been criticized for its poor methodology.

Language Log: "Liberal Bias," Noch Einmal


Media Matters - Former fellows at conservative think tanks issued flawed UCLA-led study on media's "liberal bias"

Think Again: Rigging the Numbers

The Left Coaster: How the Liberal Media Myth is Created - Part 5

Economic Principals

Their conclusions might be accurate, but their study probably doesn't prove it.

Oh, honey, I'm not angry. I'm ROTFLMAO at the sheer ridiculousness I hear from some people here on a regular basis.

Media personalities/companies have their own agendas, they are going to report what sells, in a manner that sells! There are no neutral media outlets!

Your best bet for a neutral media outlet is one NOT in this country!

And sher218--I don't assume anything about you. Your post was angry and full of hate!

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I also found links like the above, .but got to busy to post them.
It would not be surprising that more of the media leans toward liberal views. they would be trying to attract the bigger audience. From the voter turnout in the primaries one "might" conclude there are more liberals (at least voting right now).

You are right. I find more indepth news especially from the UK. More accurate information is given about the current US economy than anything you will find in the US news.

What these studies never seem to talk about is the pervasiveness of conservative talk radio. It's almost impossible to find a liberal talk show with any kind of substantial audience. I wonder, does the mean conservatives listen to radio and liberals watch t.v. or what the reason is behind it?

Here in Richmond, there used to be a pretty decent AM station with a nice mix of personalities. It had Dr. Laura and Rush, but was balanced by some local guys in the morning and afternoon. Now it's all conservative, all the time. Glenn Beck, Rush, Hannity, Michael Savage (ugh, dreadful man!). I wonder if that's happening across the country?

It does seems that more conservatives have gotten away from watching the tv.
It is most amazing that Fox is suppose to be so conservative while most of Ron Paul's people can not stand watching Fox. The treatment by most of the mass media directed to Ron Paul finally made me realize how "controlled"( for lack of a better word) the news is that we get.

Edited to add: Except Fox Business news is paying Ron Paul more attention because of the economy. Asking his opinion on what should be done but still smurking about him still being in the race.

I never said you specifically on the angry part! You must feel guilty about it because you seem to think I was speaking of you. But, 'honey', you got that right about the sheer ridiculous comments from 'some' people here on a regular basis!!

Oh, please forgive me. When you responded to my post, for some reason I got the wacky idea that you were talking to me. I guess you were just talking to the cosmos or something. Silly me.

Hmnn yes, could be a conversation with the cosmos, I was thinking more psychological projection.


Psychological projection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

By jove, I think you've got it!

Sounds like some of you have way too much time on your hands!! Nothing like Wikipedia to back up what you really think. Now there's some really smart people. You do realize that you can change it to what you want it to say, don't you??

And to think some on these boards think they're sooooo smart!! Amazes me every day.

You're projecting again.

You, too!

You're right, we both obviously have way too much time on our hands today!!

Oh now that is really funny...Maybe you should go back and read some of your posts...you have made many cynical,hateful and angry posts..Just look at your sig. line...You insult people in it.... You must get a kick out of insulting people or trying to make them look stupid, because thats what most of your remarks do...Sherri

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- Ronald Reagan

Amen, sister.