I'm partial to either Bloomberg or Richardson. I think people find John Edwards to be too ineffectual (although I'd consider Elizabeth, lol).

Who do you think he should/will choose?

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I'm a fan of Senator Webb because of his military experience and concern for the troops. IMO for too long we've concentrated on military equipment and not enough on the troops themselves and Senator Webb would reverse that trend.

I'm a huge fan of Elizabeth Edwards too -- so smart -- between his wife and Elizabeth Edwards as VP the Senator wouldn't stand a chance if they decided to join forces.

Thinking Bill Richardson will have a place in the cabinet. He and Senator Obama seem to have similar views on foreign policy. I've never understood the appeal of Mayor Bloomberg. I did read his wikipedia page and agree with many of his views although I'm afraid the right would make hay with such things as his ban on "trans fat" in restaurants and label him as a nutty liberal although that's far from the truth.

No, not Webb! I'm a huge fan, but Virginia is finally going to have two Democratic senators after the November election and I'd like to keep it that way. We need the Democratic senators to stay where they are if at all possible.

I like Richardson, although I'm not sure the Clinton people wouldn't stay away because of his supposedly traitorous behavior. With Obama a groundbreaker himself, I'm not sure you put a woman on with him . . . I'm thinking about Wes Clark as well. He's a Clinton supporter, so her fans should be placated a bit, he's got military experience. He has a lot of pluses.

Not Edwards. His refusal to take a stand on the primaries makes me think he's kind of weak. I'm not sure there's any benefit to running as VP twice. Finally, I suspect Elizabeth's health is not good. She doesn't look well.

Please no military men.

Richardson would never go for it. He likes the top position and being Governor gives him more power. A VP really doesnt have a lot of power unless something happens to the President.

John Edwards would be a good choice in my book. He can attract whites in the Southern states and the working class, both areas where Obama needs help. I think he refused to endorse anyone bacause he wanted to try for VP again and keeping his options open.

If Obama really wants to win and win big, he could choose Hillary though he probably wont because of Bill hanging around. lol

According to Dick Cheney, the vice president answers to no one. He says that he's not part of the executive nor the legislative. That's an awfully powerful position to be in.

51% of Democrats are female. I think that Clinton has a lot of support from feminists. So, I don't think that a woman would hurt the ticket.

I disagree with that. A VP has as much power as the president chooses to allow him to have. Dick Cheney virtually runs the show, IMO.

Now we all know that GB's presidency has been like no other and he needed a brain or was that Carl Rove. Al Gore didnt have a lot of power. I still think Richardson is not looking for the VP job as he is the head executive as Governor of NM.

Maybe he can pick someone from his circle of friends?????LOLOLOL


William Ayers
(Weatherman Underground bomber, unrepentant domestic terrorist)
Frank Davis
(Member Communist Party USA, Early mentor to Obama)

Jeremiah Wright
(Black Liberation militant, racist, and Pastor)
Tony Rezko
(Corrupt Financier, ties to Terror Financing)

Louis Farrakhan
(Nation of Islam Leader, racist, anti-American)
RailaOrdinga
(Fundamental Islamic Candidate, Kenya, Obama's Cousin)

Daniel Ortega
(Marxist Sandinista Leader. Nicarauga)
Raul Castro
(Hard-line Communist Leader, Cuba)

Communist Party Illinois
(US Communist Political Party)
Socialist Party USA
(Marxist Socialist Political Party)

The New Black Panther Party
(Black Militant Organization, anti-American and racist)
Hamas Terrorist Organization

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Why no military men??

I think the Obama/Clinton ticket would have been a good one for the Democratic party,but, I don't see how that could happen since they have both torn each other down so much, not to mention, they have said numerous times that they won't be the other's VP.

I like John Edwards, he seemed to be more in touch with the people. And, I didn't care that he spent $400 on a hair cut. As long as it wasn't at the tax payers' expense, who cares??

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I don't want Clinton anywhere near the Obama ticket, but I haven't heard either of them say that, ever.

You haven't heard either of them say they won't be the other's VP? That is how I took the statement "I'm not running for VP" when Barrack said it, and Hillary Clinton has also said things like that.

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Doing the right thing isn't always the same as doing the easy thing.

That's a world of difference from "I won't be HRC's VP" or vice versa. No one running for the top slot is going to say they'll settle for the bottom slot.

No, I haven't heard that and, even with what you're citing, I still haven't heard that.

Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Sam Graham-Felsen's Blog: Video: "Not running for vice president"

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What do you think this proves?

Chris Matthews thinks that Obama should pick Chuck Hagel. I don't agree.

Chris Matthews is an idiot.

He has him moments: YouTube - Radio Host Kevin James Walks into a Smackdown

I'm not a Matthews fan but that was too funny -- almost felt sorry for the poor guy (NOT).

If Obama doesn't pick Clinton as his running mate, I will not be voting for Obama this election.

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I voted Webb, but in retrospect I agree with truble about his Senate seat.

I like Biden too, but again, Senate seat...

I also like Edwards.

Wonder who McCain will pick?

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I'm hoping he'll pick Huckabee.

So as a democrat, you'd rather not vote and have someone in office who is against everything you as a democrat stand for? you'd rather another one or two conservative judges be put on the supreme court, you'd rather Roe v Wade be attacked again, you'd rather the war continue on and have thousands more of our men and women killed (not to mention Iraqi), you'd rather economy keep going the way it is, JUST TO PROVE YOUR POINT?

Jeez. With dems like you, we don't need enemies.

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I totally agree with you on this. A Clinton supporter voting for McCain just does not make sense. I am an avid Clinton supporter but that doesn't mean I think Obama would be a bad president. I just think Clinton would be better. It seems Obama will win the nomination and I will be enthusiastically voting for him in the general election. Voting for McCain is voting against Democrats own interests. That would be silly. I have to say I am very disappointed when I hear the polls that Clinton supporters would rather vote for McCain or not vote rather than vote for Obama. I hope they come to their senses before the election because I cant stomach the thought of Bush's 3rd term.

WDBJ7 Roanoke News and Weather NRV Lynchburg Danville | Officials: Obama begins veep search

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- Virginia Governor Tim Kaine could be among the possible running mates presidential hopeful Barack Obama is considering.

Democratic officials say Obama has begun a top-secret search for a running mate.

The Democratic officials spoke on a condition of anonymity about a process that the campaign wants to keep quiet.

Vice presidential searches are usually closely held secrets, but Obama campaign officials say the effort is being handled by a particularly tight circle of advisers.

Possibilities include several governors, including Kaine, as well as senators like Missouri's Claire McCaskill and Virginia's Jim Webb.

His opponent, Hillary Rodham Clinton, also is a possibility."

I LOVE Dennis Kucinich (I know, I am in a very, very small minority) so I picked other. But, I could deal with BIden. I think HRC would make an excellent leader, but don't think she would accept second place.

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I agree with your picks. I like Kucinich but I don't think he is electable. I think Obama should ask Hillary and she should decline. But she should be asked.

I like most of the people who have been mentioned except for Webb. I don't like him and I don't know anything about him and I don't know why I don't like him.

Claire McCaskill would be great but I kind of hate losing a senator. In this state it's hit or miss whether we could elect another dem for her seat.

I just hope his attempts to bridge the chasm between the parties doesn't lead to him asking a Republican to run. There are limits to my ability to digest such a "compromise."

He'd never ask a republican to run. Ever. Nor has there been any hint that something that crazy would happen.

I don't think he should even ask Hillary. She might say yes and then where would he be? Stuck w/ her. Quite frankly, after all she's said against him - saying McCain would be better than him, the whole assasignation remark, etc., I think she doesn't deserve the VP slot.

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I do no think he would ask a Republican to run as VP...but putting Republicans in his cabinet is very possible,

Barnstorming Obama plans to pick Republicans for cabinet - Times Online

"Obama is hoping to appoint cross-party figures to his cabinet such as Chuck Hagel, the Republican senator for Nebraska and an opponent of the Iraq war, and Richard Lugar, leader of the Republicans on the Senate foreign relations committee.
Senior advisers confirmed that Hagel, a highly decorated Vietnam war veteran and one of McCain’s closest friends in the Senate, was considered an ideal candidate for defence secretary. Some regard the outspoken Republican as a possible vice-presidential nominee although that might be regarded as a “stretch”."

Obama Eyes Lugar for Cabinet, in TV Ads | Howey Politics Indiana

Political Radar: Obama Says He'd Consider Arnold For His Cabinet
"Barack Obama has often said he'd consider putting Republicans in his cabinet and even bandied about names like Sens. Dick Lugar and Chuck Hagel. He's a added a new name to the list of possible Republicans cabinet members - Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Obama regularly says he would look to Republicans to fill out his cabinet if he was elected,"

I'm certainly glad to know that he would never ask a Republican. When was the last time he mentioned that to you? Chuck Hagel's name keeps cropping up on various VP lists. Bloomberg is not a Dem. Webb is supposedly a Dem but I have my doubts. And even if he picks a Dem, that doesn't mean he is not considering going off the reservation for a running mate.

I said early on that I would vote for either of the two, but I'm reconsidering that. The vitriol from the Obama supporters is enough to turn anyone to another candidate. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. I've heard of poor losers but being a poor winner is even worse.

I have been trying to not say anything but am starting to feel the same way. Obama supporters need to remember that to win in November, Obama needs to win over Clinton supporters not alienate them.

I was going to say something about Clinton's supporters, but you know what? I refuse to let her divide my friendships up. If you want to think I'm a "sore winner" that's fine. I don't remember being rude to you either here or the other forum, nor do I remember trying to be a "sore winner" around you. In fact, I have studiously NOT gotten into it w/ you about the candidates b/c I valued our friendship more than that.

I wasn't being rude in my post about him not picking a republican, so I'm really at a loss as to why your comments are like that. Quite frankly, I think you should check yourself on that. It was not necessary at all.

If you want to vote for someone else simply b/c you don't like his SUPPORTERS (who aren't the ones going into office by the way), then so be it. Don't take your dislike of him out on me.

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If you are voting for or against someone simply b/c of their supporters, then frankly, you shouldn't even be allowed to vote. That's the silliest thing I've heard in a long time. "I don't like his supporters (forget the fact he and Hillary have almost the same views) so I'm not going to vote for him. pffft. Please spare me.
If you want to vote for someone else b/c you can't separate a candidate from their supporters, then fine.
When your sons and daughters are still sent to die in a senseless war overseas, don't complain.
When your daughters begin to die because their now illegal abortion was botched, don't complain.
When your wives, mothers, sisters and daughters begin to be treated as second class citizens (because any man who calls his wife a c*nt and trollop doesn't respect women nor their rights), don't complain.
When we need other countries and they reject us because of our government's policies, don't complain.
When you can't afford gas to get to work, and your job is lost, don't complain.

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Nicole, you stated as a fact that he would never pick a Republican. That's not something you can know for sure. I hope he doesn't but I wouldn't bet the farm on it right now. Just the rumors make me nervous and there are rumors.

What could you say about Clinton supporters? At least as far as this board goes. We are relatively quiet because we know that if we voice any support for her, we will get our heads handed to us on a platter.

As far as my support for him, as a Clinton supporter, I have never bashed him the way some here and elsewhere have bashed her. I fully realize that it's him getting the nomination, but he seems to bring out something in his supporters, that at times verges on scary.

I don't dislike him and I certainly don't dislike you. I thinks it's time to drop the bashing and let things play out how they will play out. Save the trash talk for the other side.

I'm curious. If he did pick her as a running mate, (which I'm pretty sure won't happen), what would you do?

and THIS is why I think we should have elections like they do in elementary: The one w/ the most votes is the winner (the President), the one w/ the next highest vote count is runner-up (VP)!!!


If you'd like to see how a Democrat and Republican work together I suggest that you look at Gov. Schweitzer and Lt. Gov. Bollinger of Montana.

Schweitzer is a Democrat (who, by the way was recently endorsed by the National Rifle Association), Bollinger is a Republican. For some reason, the Republican party has been a bit bratty about Bollinger working w/ the Dem. But, oh well...

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I have a problem putting a Republican in line for the presidency, not the fact that they would be VP. I kind of like Chuck Hagel but I don't want him as VP. A couple of cabinet posts for Repubs, okay, but that's it.

In Missouri, often the Gov. and Lt. Gov. are from different parties. Does not usually work all that well. But being me, I kind of like the fact that it doesn't work all that well. It keeps them all on their toes. The Gov. has to be very careful in planning his junkets out of state because once he's gone, the other one gets to play.

The difference is that I at least do not bash her supporters. SHE is fair game (as is he). If he were forced to choose her, I'd have no choice but to still vote for him. I'd be voting for Obama, not Clinton.

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Read you post! You bashed me and I wasnt even replying to you. You are trying to put words in my mouth just to argue with a Clinton supporter. I have stayed away from you because I see the vileness that seems to come out in Obama supporters when Hillary is mentioned in a good way. Please dont reply to my posts unless you can act like an adult.

First you assume I am a liberal democrat....guess you have never heard of a Reagan democrat...Second you act like McCain is pro-life....he has always been pro-choice, I don't care what he says now he is just playing to his base, third you think Obama is really going to pull out all of our troops from Iraq?
And who knows what it is going to take to fix the economy. All I am saying is I am not a supporter of Obama and the only way he would get my vote is if Clinton is on his ticket. I don't vote for someone just because they are blanketed under a title of democrat or republican. Obama isn't the candidate for me, and him being democrat doesn't make him the automatic right fit.

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PHLUZZZZZEEEEE A little dramtic arent we??? Sherri

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That's not true. McCain has a 0% rating on pro-choice votes from NARAL.

Link

Thanks for the info, I stand corrected. With that being said it doesn't make me all of a sudden think Obama is correct candidate for me. I wish I had the luxury to vote for a candidate based off one issue, but I don't.

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first, I didn't bash you, I merely responded to your post. second, if I were going to, it wouldn't be because you support Clinton. Third, PLEASE put me on ignore, as I will most assuredly do for you. I'm so sick of your snide remarks and you giving negative reps whenever you don't like what I've said. I think it's obvious you're in need of a life. (THAT was bashing you, in case you were unsure).

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Absolutely, you vote for who you like, but I'm glad to have the chance to correct the misconception that so many have that McCain is pro-choice. I think there are some people voting for him because they think he is.

There were people in the exit polling of some of the first states primary, that thought John McCain was wanting to end the war in Iraq.
I think that is what happens when people only want to read and watch things(certain websites, TV news, etc) that lean to their side of things. You get a much better overview when you look at lots of information.

Wow, isn't that amazing? It's always shocking to realize how many uninformed or underinformed people there are . . . . it's quite clear, especially after his comments yesterday, that McCain has zero interest in ending the war any time soon.

I guess it's not too different from the number of people that still think Obama is a Muslin.

McCain may say he is pro-life, and he may very well feel that way, however, the reality is that he believes it is a states right issue. To a pro-lifer, that means that abortion is a non-issue when it comes to picking supreme court judges.

And that's where McCain's problem lies.

Just like whether or not a candidate would pick pro-abortion judges is a litmus test for liberals, for conservatives, the opposite position is equally important.

What do you base this statement about states' rights on?

I have heard McCain say that Roe should be overturned and the issue left up each state.

I wish I could give you a link, but I can't.

I heard him say that without hesitation in an interview over the weekend. I don't even recall what channel it was on. The questioner asked him if he was afraid he would lose some of the conservative base because of his stance on abortion, and he said he didn't know why he had a reputation for being pro-abortion when he is personally decidedly pro-life. He then went on to say that the difference between he and some of his conservative colleagues is that he believes it is a states right issue rather than a federal one. He also said he believed that made him more of a conservative than some because conservatives tend to want government to be less 'federal' and more 'local'.

I understood what he was saying, and on some issues I might agree, but because of RvW being a supreme court ruling and the fact that the next president is likely to get to seat a justice or two, his disinterest on RvW at the federal level means it won't be a deal-breaker for a justice pick... and for many conservatives, it *is* a deal-breaker.

Not arguing the rightness or wrongness of any of it - just stating why his states right stance may be problematic for him on this particular issue.

I do not understand how being a Clinton supporter and voting for McCain shows any sort of honor or tribute to HRC.
But by all means, vote republican if you wish. I can only assume you've had everything you wanted under the current republican admin.

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I am closing this thread as it has reached the 50 reply mark.

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