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Old 05-26-2008, 05:09 PM
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How many of those babies were you prepared to care for?

I'm so glad to see you putting your psychic powers to work, assessing how many women would have died from illegal abortions.

Could you pick tomorrow's Virginia Lottery numbers for me, too?
I'm prepared to care for my own!! It's called being responsible.
Illegal deaths-Actually I looked up some statistics online - you can do the same if you are really interestd. They are not that high.
By the way abortions are not a safe, simple procedure. Tell that to the women who have perforated uteruses, etc... not to mention the emotional effect on post-abortive woman AND men.
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:16 PM
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[quote=sher218;2998595]That statement turns my stomach....its amazing all the tree hugging liberals and Peta members scream if a animal is killed or endangered, they dont want trees to be cut down and the purple speckled crane endangered but kill a baby and they are fine with that...I dont understand it??? For the life of me I dont get the logic....now before anyone yells at me..I love animals and have two...one which by the way is pregnant..I dont like to see animals hurt or abused....now with that said....a animal is still an animal..Peta goes nuts because rats are used for testing in labs but they think its fine to kill babies>>>>Someone please explain this logic to me....I am begging!!!!!!!!

Great post!!! The local director of the abortion mill here is just like you stated above. She protested when they allowed sharpshooters to thin the deer population and then went to the clinic everyday to have babies killed up to 20 weeks in the womb!!!! Can you say hypocrite????
I think prochoice people like to think of the developing child in the womb as tissue otherwise how do you say to another woman "I'm soooo glad abortion is legal so you can kill your child"?
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:17 PM
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I'm prepared to care for my own!! It's called being responsible.
Illegal deaths-Actually I looked up some statistics online - you can do the same if you are really interestd. They are not that high.
By the way abortions are not a safe, simple procedure. Tell that to the women who have perforated uteruses, etc... not to mention the emotional effect on post-abortive woman AND men.
Serously, Kathy, do you think there is no emotional baggage or effect on those people who are the product of an unwanted pregnancy or on a woman who has to go through an unwanted pregnancy. Or how many women die from childbirth each year or from high risk pregnancy due to failed birth control.
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:22 PM
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You all are like little kids...when you cant find anything else to say, you start hurling insults, I guess demeaning other people makes you feel less insecure about yourself.....Sherri
THat is soooooo true!!! And also why I asked to have the thread I started CLOSED.
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:26 PM
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The kids are fine. Mine know how I feel and think just like I do.

All of us value life that is here. Why conservatives do not mourn the taking of a million lives in Iraq baffles me. Frankly, we do need to start thinking about the people that are here. This planet won't be able to support too many more.
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:29 PM
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Serously, Kathy, do you think there is no emotional baggage or effect on those people who are the product of an unwanted pregnancy or on a woman who has to go through an unwanted pregnancy. Or how many women die from childbirth each year or from high risk pregnancy due to failed birth control.
YOu like to make all these statements without backing up the statements with facts. If you are sincere why don't you research what you posted and give us the FACTS to back it up. I think you will be surprised.
What a naive world you and your buddies want-free sex, no resposibilities. Have unprotected sex? Go take a chemical concoction (that have side effects) to make sure you don't end up pregnant. Oops, I find myself pregnant-since I don't want this pregnancy I'll just skip off to the abortion mill and kill either my son or daughter. Afterall I would rather kill my child than take a chance on having things actually turn out ok. Ever thought you might end up loving the child once it's born? How do YOU know who's going to end up troubled and whose not. Your solution is to just kill them to make sure it doesn't happen. I urge you to read Forbidden Gried to educate yourself on the damage abortion does to woman (and men). Maybe that will help you see the light.
Abortion makes you the mother of a dead little human being doesn't it??????
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:34 PM
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The kids are fine. Mine know how I feel and think just like I do.

All of us value life that is here. Why conservatives do not mourn the taking of a million lives in Iraq baffles me. Frankly, we do need to start thinking about the people that are here. This planet won't be able to support too many more.
Life that is here???? Seriously, if you were 6 months pregnant and lost that child through miscarriage you wouldn't grieve??? You wouldn't think you had lost a child?
We do care about the lives lost in Iraq. I support our military men and women. You do have to remember that living under Sadam was a daily dice roll as to whether or not you might get raped by his sons or your husband disappear never to he heard from or seen again. Not going to debate the war but not going to let an ASSUMPTION (judgment????? lol) be made that conservatives don't care.
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:39 PM
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All forms of birth control have side effects. That is the chance you take when you choose to have sex. It's pretty simple actually. Maybe some of you need to go back and learn about the birds and bees and how someone gets pregnant. That's why the Catholic church says no artificial birth control. Lots of them are abortifacients (sp?) and since we believe life begins at conception we don't approve of these. Actually it IS black and white.
Rape and pregnancy? This is a tiny, tiny statistic and very tragic. However, I have read many testimonies from women who have been raped and had the baby. They said it was a way to make a horrible action have one good thing come of it-a new life.
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:48 PM
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YOu like to make all these statements without backing up the statements with facts. If you are sincere why don't you research what you posted and give us the FACTS to back it up. I think you will be surprised.
What a naive world you and your buddies want-free sex, no resposibilities. Have unprotected sex? Go take a chemical concoction (that have side effects) to make sure you don't end up pregnant. Oops, I find myself pregnant-since I don't want this pregnancy I'll just skip off to the abortion mill and kill either my son or daughter. Afterall I would rather kill my child than take a chance on having things actually turn out ok. Ever thought you might end up loving the child once it's born? How do YOU know who's going to end up troubled and whose not. Your solution is to just kill them to make sure it doesn't happen. I urge you to read Forbidden Gried to educate yourself on the damage abortion does to woman (and men). Maybe that will help you see the light.
Abortion makes you the mother of a dead little human being doesn't it??????


Okay, I give up. You've figured all of us tree huggers out, the jig is up. Since I started this thread I'm going to officially ask that it be closed. I'm gonna go and get me some free sex.
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:51 PM
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All drugs have side effects. I am not Catholic and never have been. You believe different things than I do. I have seen desperate poverty caused by having large families. People that are here, walking and talking, have to takke precedent.

We have killed more than a million Iraqis in 5 years. This in a country that didn't threaten us at all. At least Saddam took 20 years to kill the same number.
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:53 PM
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Okay, I give up. You've figured all of us tree huggers out, the jig is up. Since I started this thread I'm going to officially ask that it be closed. I'm gonna go and get me some free sex.
Well since you won't back up your statements with factual information PLEASE ask that this thread be closed!!!!!
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:56 PM
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All drugs have side effects. I am not Catholic and never have been. You believe different things than I do. I have seen desperate poverty caused by having large families. People that are here, walking and talking, have to takke precedent.

We have killed more than a million Iraqis in 5 years. This in a country that didn't threaten us at all. At least Saddam took 20 years to kill the same number.
I have researched this before and I can't find any firm facts on these Iraq statistics.
One million over 20 years-46 million over 35 years in the US with abortion. And ALL of the 46 million had NO voice and NO chance. At least if you were an Iraqi you had a few choices, You have life, possible love and families, etc... and HOPE.
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Old 05-26-2008, 06:08 PM
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Well since you won't back up your statements with factual information PLEASE ask that this thread be closed!!!!!
Just stop responding to it if you don't like what you read.


I know I'm having a hoot of a time reading your posts. You really get yourself riled up, doncha?
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Old 05-26-2008, 06:10 PM
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I have researched this before and I can't find any firm facts on these Iraq statistics.
One million over 20 years-46 million over 35 years in the US with abortion. And ALL of the 46 million had NO voice and NO chance. At least if you were an Iraqi you had a few choices, You have life, possible love and families, etc... and HOPE.
Damn, 46 million -- how do you figure to put all those babies in your house? Because you would have taken care of every last one of them, right?

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At least if you were an Iraqi you had a few choices, You have life, possible love and families, etc... and HOPE
Darn, you're a stitch. HOPE is just so much what the Iraqis have.
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Old 05-26-2008, 06:23 PM
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I have researched this before and I can't find any firm facts on these Iraq statistics.
One million over 20 years-46 million over 35 years in the US with abortion. And ALL of the 46 million had NO voice and NO chance. At least if you were an Iraqi you had a few choices, You have life, possible love and families, etc... and HOPE.
We have already established that a fetus cannot form a thought or have desires. It's foolish to bring up choice insofar as it might apply to a fetus or a potato even.

I don't remember a single Iraqi inviting George Bush to come over and kill their children and loved ones. Remember "Shock and Awe?" It killed no one but civilians. No, the Iraqi people had no choice in this matter. These were people who could laugh and form thoughts.
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Old 05-26-2008, 06:30 PM
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It's called being responsible.
When you deny women their constitutional rights, you deny them responsibility for themselves, so now it should be on your head. That good Catholic head of yours.
 

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