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| Clinton's Concession Speech
This is only the transcript of Hillary's speech. If anyone has a link to watch Hillary give full speech please post it. Transcript: Hillary Clinton’s Concession Speech - America’s Election HQ |
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I thought that it was a very gracious concession. I cannot put a link in directly to the video, but the whole thing is on Josh Marshall's site. Talking Points Memo |
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I didn't see it, but I'm still laughing over this: I posted it in another thread but didn't indicate what it was. It's all the pundits saying she was a shoe-in way back when. RedLasso - The Daily Show on Pundits Declaring Clinton's Victory Inevitable |
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Clinton's refusal to give Obama his well-earned victory on Tuesday night was extremely ungracious, IMO. Allowing Terry McAuliffe to introduce her that night as the next president of the US, when she knew full well that he had won the nomination -- and she'd had weeks to recognize the inevitability of that result -- was rude. Her graciousness today will always be tainted by her selfishness Tuesday night. |
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That is one person's personal opinion...certainly not mine. AND...she is not Terry McAuliffe and not Terry's speechwriter. Hillary has earned the right to hold her head high and retain the respect she has earned. Although I strongly disagree with you on this, we both want what is best for this country.....and I am sure the White House is in for some major Democratic healing of this country.
__________________ "Well-Behaved Women SELDOM make history."Laurel Thatcher Ulrich "Yesterday is but a vision, and tomorrow is only a dream. But today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a dream of hope." Anonymous "Your candle does not lose it's light by lighting another candle" Generosity Have the courage to be yourself. |
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I certainly don't think that Clinton hurt anything by waiting until Saturday. The primary battle was long, hard fought, and very close. Many of her supporters wanted her to take it to the convention. I think the short delay gave her supporters time to deflate and come to terms with the loss. |
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I don't think that really happened. Surely by Wednesday afternoon her supporters had come to terms with the loss. I think she had a few supporters who were in her camp just because they wanted to see a woman become president. |
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I'm at another board where many of her supporters are utterly enraged at her having had the nomination "stolen" from her. They're writing to demand she take it to the convention. If she doesn't succeed in getting the nomination, they plan on voting for McCain. There is real rage among some of her supporters and what McAuliffe said only fueled it. HRC took far too long to do the right thing, IMO. |
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I can't figure that one out, either! It doesn't make any sense at all. I can only think they're horribly angry and bitter about her losing the nomination. Hopefully they'll come around with some perspective by November and see that McBush is not who we need! |
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I am a Clinton supporter and so are most of my relatives and friends. We also like Obama and have no problem voting for him. He wasnt our first choice but he also isnt a bad choice. I think Hillary did everything just right. Waiting 4 days for that speech was worth it. She could not have done anywhere as good a job pointing her supporters to Obama if she had had to make a speech Tuesday. And she only took 4 days. Other runners up have taken much longer to give their full support to the winner. There will be a few supporters who will be too disappointed to vote at all but I think most will come around. This is just my opinion and I know the Hillary haters will never agree. |
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As a Senator Obama supporter I think I was mostly disappointed that the historic nature of his win wasn't celebrated as I had hoped. It wasn't the fault of Senator Clinton although IMO her being introduced Tuesday night as "the next President of the US" didn't help matters at all. It also would have been an historic moment if she had won and I can't help but think her supporters would feel as his do if the roles had been reversed. BTW, as an Obama supporter I don't "hate" Senator Clinton and do admire the speech she gave yesterday.
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| I'm not a Hillary hater either. In fact, many of us were in both camps several months ago, and before that were incredibly proud of all the candidates running. These last months were brutal, and we sort of ....broke...from one another. We were subtly pitted against each another. A lot of it, IMO, was the media's doing in how they treated the candidates and how they classified us voters. And then it trickled to us supporters, who then started arguing with one another. And there were people on the opposite side that poked, prodded and furthered the rift. Sen. Clinton did a great job in her conceding. It made me remember why I admired her for many years.
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| I agree. Where I disagree is who did it. I trace my dislike of HRC to her husband's comments after the SC primary ("Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in '84 and '88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here.") and to her own comment: Quote:
Rhymes with witch. |
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I thought the speech was really good and I dislike listening to speeches, even hers. She set the right tone and covered what needed to be covered. I felt better afterwards. Maybe not exactly in the Obama conga line but thinking about it. According to some of the talking heads, she drew strong support from independent voters who would normally lean Republican. That might explain why some are saying that they will vote for Bush Lite. As for me, personally, I'm glad she waited to give the speech. I did not want to hear it on Tuesday. I knew it was coming, but I was not ready to listen. I'm still not happy about it but I will probably, perhaps come around. At this point you can use reason all you want, but I don't want to hear reason. And I'm sure, were the shoes on the Obama supporters feet, they would feel the same way. As time goes by, that will probably change unless Obama, or his supporters, do something so awful that I can't let it go. Like him putting a Republican on the ticket or even a semi-Republican like Jim Webb would make me pause. |
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I don't like it or agree with it when people blame Hillary for what Bill said or what Terry said or what anyone but Hillary said; let people speak for themselves. If you place blame on her for all her supporters said then you have to place blame on Mr. Obama for what his supporters say and said, and, as with Rev. Wright, you know that would not be fair. Place the blame where it lies and you will be making a more fair comparison. I find it odd that many Obama supporters seem to be saying that unless Hillary apologizes for fighting the long hard fight they will continue to call her the word that rhymes with witch. I know that when men fight long hard compaigns they are not considered $itches but warriors. I don't believe that Hillary is a divider in this battle....but supporters on both sides of the coin, both on this board and outside in the "real world", continue to place up walls and blame, rather than trying to unite in producing the correct outcome in the upcoming election. Time for gloating, blame-placing and whining (whining on both sides) to be over and the unity to begin.
__________________ "Well-Behaved Women SELDOM make history."Laurel Thatcher Ulrich "Yesterday is but a vision, and tomorrow is only a dream. But today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a dream of hope." Anonymous "Your candle does not lose it's light by lighting another candle" Generosity Have the courage to be yourself. |
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I see no reason not to hold HRC responsible for her own words. If she disagreed with Bill's race-baiting, she should have said so. I think it's reasonable to hold her responsible for the comments of her husband's that she, by her silence, condones. As for the comment about fighting the long fight, I said nothing of the kind, so I'm sure that's not directed at me. I call her that word for her comments about Obama, which I made perfectly clear. |
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When HRC allowed her husband to go off like he did - more than once, it seems - she then became complicit in his statements when she did not refute them. |
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Is there a reason you feel the need to bring Wright (who isn't running for president) up in almost every conversation regarding Obama?
__________________ "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? " ~Epicurus |
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Sorry - I did not bring him up in this conversation unless I missed one of my posts in this thread (I went back and looked but perhaps I missed it). I should have quoted jeanief. She's the one who brought it up. My comment was also meant as a follow-up to her statement: Quote:
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Ok, I didn't see her post. Thanks.
__________________ "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? " ~Epicurus |
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