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Old 08-29-2008, 02:39 PM
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Not that this matters ONE whit....

but was Palin wearing a pantsuit or a skirt today?

She looked all business in black, and is a huge contrast to Mrs. McC, who reminds me more of Paris Hilton than Sydney Bristow. In appearance, of course - I have no clue what her personality is like!
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Old 08-29-2008, 02:42 PM
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I have been out all day and JUST came home to see who McCain picked. I LOVE HER....she's a class act. I haven't seen the suit she is wearing, but, I have to say I loved the other night when Hillary Clinton made the joke about "my sisterhood of the traveling pantsuits" !! That had me LOL.

Sorry, no help on the outfit, tho.
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Old 08-29-2008, 02:51 PM
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Yeah, that's the ONLY reason I even thought to wonder - lol! I saw a photoshopped pic of many pix HRC in a rainbow of pantsuites.

SP looks very classy and "all business" in what she's wearing. She doesn't need a perky color to give her a youthful feel and in fact a 'fun' color might have a negative effect. Who knows?
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Old 08-29-2008, 02:57 PM
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NO ONE can go wrong w/ a good suit (pants or skirt) in basic black--well, not so much the skirt if you're a man! But, you know what I mean!
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:04 PM
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Well, the bad news around here is that I got finished with a proposal I was working on for work, and had plans to get a lot done today. Now I'm stuck, firmly planted on my couch and watching the news channels to get a feel for this relative stranger who has entered our world - whatever it is she's wearing! lol
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:54 PM
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She is not wearing black here.

YouTube - Gov. Sarah Palin on the Wooten scandal and VP
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:32 PM
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Good question as to what does the vice president do. I can answer!

1. She tells the president what he wants to hear.
2. She interferes with justice department investigations.
3. She makes up intelligence to fit the desired facts.
4. She snarls every so often.
5. She leaves for undisclosed locations.
6. She shoots her friend in the face.
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:48 PM
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Good question as to what does the vice president do. I can answer!

1. She tells the president what he wants to hear.
2. She interferes with justice department investigations.
3. She makes up intelligence to fit the desired facts.
4. She snarls every so often.
5. She leaves for undisclosed locations.
6. She shoots her friend in the face.
From what I've heard, Governor Palin is a much better shot then the current VP.

Otherwise your list is probably right on especially, again from what I've heard, #2.
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:56 PM
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but was Palin wearing a pantsuit or a skirt today?

She looked all business in black, and is a huge contrast to Mrs. McC, who reminds me more of Paris Hilton than Sydney Bristow. In appearance, of course - I have no clue what her personality is like!
Wearing a skirt in these photos from today.
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Edited to add: lots of file photos there to view of her family, etc.

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Thanks - I did finally see some current pix!

It makes me very curious, since it's no secret that everything candidates do is somehow scripted - especially their clothing. I can't imagine she wasn't given advice regarding what to wear today.

It's interesting that she went with what is probably perceived to be a more feminine choice. I guess it's possible that the Hillary pantsuits were primarily to hide her hip issues more than because of any image a pantsuit itself projects.

But then again.... I have hip issues and feel a lot slimmer in skirts, so maybe not! lol

ETA: I just heard she used to be a tv sportscaster. This just gets more interesting all the time!
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Old 08-29-2008, 06:40 PM
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I guess we can all find out about her together, including McCain since he has only met her 2 times.
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My question is...if he was so set on a woman why didn't he even consider Kay Bailey Hutcheson? That would have locked it for me...now, still on the fence.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:44 PM
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My question is...if he was so set on a woman why didn't he even consider Kay Bailey Hutcheson? That would have locked it for me...now, still on the fence.

Kay Bailey Hutchison is pro choice and McCain needed a pro life VP nominee.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:52 PM
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My question is...if he was so set on a woman why didn't he even consider Kay Bailey Hutcheson? That would have locked it for me...now, still on the fence.
Kay Bailey Hutcheson was also on McCain's short list of possible picks. So, I think she was looked at closely.

I think McCain was going for an overall Washington outsider when he picked Sarah Palin.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:57 PM
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I have been out all day and JUST came home to see who McCain picked. I LOVE HER....she's a class act. I haven't seen the suit she is wearing, but, I have to say I loved the other night when Hillary Clinton made the joke about "my sisterhood of the traveling pantsuits" !! That had me LOL.

Sorry, no help on the outfit, tho.
I totally agree.....I think she is great!!!!!! Sherri
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:40 PM
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I think it is ridiculous for anyone to think that any intelligent woman would give their vote to anyone simply because of their genitalia. I also think it is ridiculous to critique her outfit. I haven't heard anyone talk about what John was wearing. Bringing up her beauty pageant backround is silly. I cringed when a news reporter said she had 4 children and a newborn with downs syndrome. Why not she has 5 children? Of course one is special needs but why does a news reporter need to explain her children? What are her qualifications? What are her accomplishments? What does she stand for? These are the things that I want to know not what color looks best on her. I could not care less what she looks like I want to know what kind of brain matter she has.
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:32 PM
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I think it is ridiculous for anyone to think that any intelligent woman would give their vote to anyone simply because of their genitalia. I also think it is ridiculous to critique her outfit. I haven't heard anyone talk about what John was wearing. Bringing up her beauty pageant backround is silly. I cringed when a news reporter said she had 4 children and a newborn with downs syndrome. Why not she has 5 children? Of course one is special needs but why does a news reporter need to explain her children? What are her qualifications? What are her accomplishments? What does she stand for? These are the things that I want to know not what color looks best on her. I could not care less what she looks like I want to know what kind of brain matter she has.
Yes, who cares if she is wearing a skirt, pants, whatever? We have to move beyond superficial things and we still can't. Well, some can't. I bet these things ( which are not issues) are brought up again and again.

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Old 08-29-2008, 11:39 PM
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With all due respect, I think there are intelligent women who would vote based solely on gender. Do I think that's wise? Nope. But I think there are those out there who have strong beliefs about the importance of equality and would view a woman in such a role as so important that some positions of ideology could take a back seat.

Her children are relevant. The experiences we have shape who we are. What we know about her is that she didn't allow her career to stop her childbearing, nor her childbearing to stop her career. What is relevant about the son with Downs? It's important because she is pro-life and lived out her convictions. Whether you agree with her stance on abortion, the bottom line is that she takes a position and has stood in the face of a decision that some would say is a reason abortion should be legal, and didn't even consider one.

If she had aborted her Downs baby, that would've said something about her as well.

I understand what you are saying about not caring what she wears. I don't care what she choses to wear, either, but my gut tells me that none of the candidates decide that in a vacuum. Such a big deal was made about HRC's pantsuits, and if this nominee is to be the Republican counterpart to that, it's interesting to ponder how closely they 'play' her feminine side. It's politics and it's image-making, and for whatever reason, the powers that be who make suggestions have their fingers on the pulse of *something* that told them it was okay to go more 'business feminine' with her. OR, she said, "Buzz off - I can dress myself!" I'd like to think she did that, and now that I've heard so much about her today, I suspect that's what happened. But had that been a decision encouraged by the RNC, I'd like to know what's going on in their collective minds about why that image was the right one to present during her national debut. Whether we like it or not, images impact impressions.

So you want to know what her qualifications are? From what I gather after barely being able to pry myself from the couch today, I can tell you a bit about this. Her biggest qualification is that she is an equal opportunity reformer. She could care less if you are a Democrat or a Republican - if you are corrupt, she'll make sure you are kicked out the door. In Alaska, it appears she was responsible for the downfall of three powerful Republicans, including the governor and the head of the state ethics committee in charge of oversight for the oil and gas industry. She was known as a whistleblower.

When she ran for mayor of her hometown she did so on the premise that spending was out of control and property taxes were insanely high. She slashed them by 60%.

Her parents were in elementary education and belonged to the teacher's union. She was a big athlete and hunter while she was growing up and married her high school sweetheart after graduating from college in Idaho with a degree in journalism and then working as a sportscaster for a brief time. Together they moved home to Alaska and started a commercial fishing business, which they ran together. So she has small business experience. At some point in there, she herself was a union member and her husband still is. An avid hunter, she is an NRA member.

The thing that strikes me about her is that she doesn't seem to have had aspirations for making it big on the national scene. There are some politicians whose more recent backgrounds appear as though they were grooming themselves for the job, and it's hard to figure out what the real "them" is because they've lived a life of politics and not the life of a regular person. That makes it difficult to distinguish what opinions they hold for political purposes and which ones they would live out if they were living the life of a 'normal person'. With this lady, most of her life was as a *normal person*. I find that rather fascinating.

Bottom line? It sounds like her strength is kicking butt when there is corruption and could care less if the corrupt person is in her own party or not. It's that personal attribute that will make her a strong candidate, IMHO.
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The only relevance on the issue of her children is her "choice" to carry the fetus to term. Her Choice. She was the mayor of a town of 7000. She is the Governer of a state with a 5th of the population Chicago. By her own admission she hasn't paid attention to foreign policy. If McCain needed a vagina for his ticket he had plenty of qualified republican women, many even more qualified than himself. This choice is simple pandering. A female to get the Hilary vote. The mother of a handicapped child to solidify the fact that she chose not to abort. Pretty to help sell the idea, (she had on more makeup than a hooker). So she is a whistle blower, great. He met her 2 times. How does he know in 2 meetings that she is the best choice for this office? I find it extremely insulting that McCain thinks females are so blind that they will give up their vote simply because he chooses a female
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The only relevance on the issue of her children is her "choice" to carry the fetus to term. Her Choice. She was the mayor of a town of 7000. She is the Governer of a state with a 5th of the population Chicago. By her own admission she hasn't paid attention to foreign policy. If McCain needed a vagina for his ticket he had plenty of qualified republican women, many even more qualified than himself. This choice is simple pandering. A female to get the Hilary vote. The mother of a handicapped child to solidify the fact that she chose not to abort. Pretty to help sell the idea, (she had on more makeup than a hooker). So she is a whistle blower, great. He met her 2 times. How does he know in 2 meetings that she is the best choice for this office? I find it extremely insulting that McCain thinks females are so blind that they will give up their vote simply because he chooses a female
Try doing some research on the internet about Palin you will find lot of information. She certainly has more experience then the news media is saying.
She is very out-spoken about her views. At least you know where she stands and will stand on principal.
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she had on more makeup than a hooker).

With all due respect, I don't think you care what kind of brain matter she has, and if it's true that you couldn't care what she looks like, why the comment about the makeup?

At the end of the day, I think you fall within that 3% of women who have declared abortion rights to be their top issue, and because of that, she could hang the moon and it wouldn't matter to you because she is pro-life.
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She is not a stupid woman. I have seen her "backround". I simply do not think she is the strongest person for the VP position. I think she is simply the prettiest, youngest female they could find at this time for the ticket. And I strongly believe that McCain thinks women are stupid and just by virtue of her being a woman that all of Hillarys supporters will flock to her because they are too stupid to make an informed decision.
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Old 08-30-2008, 12:57 AM
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The only relevance on the issue of her children is her "choice" to carry the fetus to term. Her Choice. She was the mayor of a town of 7000. She is the Governer of a state with a 5th of the population Chicago. By her own admission she hasn't paid attention to foreign policy. If McCain needed a vagina for his ticket he had plenty of qualified republican women, many even more qualified than himself. This choice is simple pandering. A female to get the Hilary vote. The mother of a handicapped child to solidify the fact that she chose not to abort. Pretty to help sell the idea, (she had on more makeup than a hooker). So she is a whistle blower, great. He met her 2 times. How does he know in 2 meetings that she is the best choice for this office? I find it extremely insulting that McCain thinks females are so blind that they will give up their vote simply because he chooses a female
That was a very crude post.
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She is not a stupid woman. I have seen her "backround". I simply do not think she is the strongest person for the VP position. I think she is simply the prettiest, youngest female they could find at this time for the ticket. And I strongly believe that McCain thinks women are stupid and just by virtue of her being a woman that all of Hillarys supporters will flock to her because they are too stupid to make an informed decision.
And Obama as the pres with all his experience?????? Try saying something like 'and I strongly believe that the Dems think black people are stupid and just by the virtue of his being black that all of the black voters will flock to him because they are too stupid to make an informed decision." Would lthat go over with you? I doubt it. Don't insult woman like you have with your posts.
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I also believe that in her speech today, directly appealing to Hillary voters to come over to the dark side, she actually made more enemies than converts because basically she thinks that just because she has the same plumbing as Hill, that is what the HRC disenfranchised want. Hopefully this pandering will make those sitting on the fence take a closer look at her record, see that her only experience is as mayor of a town of less than 9,000 people and barely 2 years as a governor, with strong anti-choice platform who also is a Robertson supporter, and realize that other than the "plumbing" she is NOTHING that HRC stood for or embodied


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I also believe that in her speech today, directly appealing to Hillary voters to come over to the dark side, she actually made more enemies than converts because basically she thinks that just because she has the same plumbing as Hill, that is what the HRC disenfranchised want. Hopefully this pandering will make those sitting on the fence take a closer look at her record, see that her only experience is as mayor of a town of less than 9,000 people and barely 2 years as a governor, with strong anti-choice platform who also is a Robertson supporter, and realize that other than the "plumbing" she is NOTHING that HRC stood for or embodied


Regardless of what she is wearing.......
Umm, not like Hillary? No wonder I love her!!! She has more experience than Obama!!!
Alan Holmes (a lib) just said he is glad McCain chose a woman!! I guess that makes him a sexist!! lol
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Obama was nominated, not choosen for the color of his skin. Palin was choosen for her genitalia. Being a Governor of a state does not instantly make you savvy enough to be President. Remember W was the Gov of Texas and look at the disaster he has been. I did not insult any woman, I insulted the McCain machine. He made the decision. And be very sure it was a calculated one. Read it again. I said McCain thinks women are stupid.
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I don't believe Obama would have been nominated if he was a white man.

They'd have gone with someone with more experience if he was just another white guy in the pool of potentials.

The DNC decided they wanted to run with a "CHANGE" tagline and two people who looked different than the status quo were put forth.

You think that's coincidence?
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Obama was nominated, not choosen for the color of his skin. Palin was choosen for her genitalia. Being a Governor of a state does not instantly make you savvy enough to be President. Remember W was the Gov of Texas and look at the disaster he has been. I did not insult any woman, I insulted the McCain machine. He made the decision. And be very sure it was a calculated one. Read it again. I said McCain thinks women are stupid.
Exactly. Obama was nominated, possibly skin color having something to do with it. It's naive to think otherwise so the statement above is a legitimate alternative form of what you implied with McCain and women. Of course pliticial decisions are calculated ones!!!!!! Most all of them are. Even with your heroes, the Dems! lol
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Umm, not like Hillary? No wonder I love her!!! She has more experience than Obama!!!
Alan Holmes (a lib) just said he is glad McCain chose a woman!! I guess that makes him a sexist!! lol

Where the hel!! did I say anything about anyone being sexist. As always, you are just trying to start crap. And now you will cry about people picking on YOU like you always do.....start crap, and try to put words in people's mouths.
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I don't believe Obama would have been nominated if he was a white man.

They'd have gone with someone with more experience if he was just another white guy in the pool of potentials.

The DNC decided they wanted to run with a "CHANGE" tagline and two people who looked different than the status quo were put forth.

You think that's coincidence?
WATCH OUT!!! You are going to be called a racist!!!!!
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Where the hel!! did I say anything about anyone being sexist. As always, you are just trying to start crap. And now you will cry about people picking on YOU like you always do.....start crap, and try to put words in people's mouths.
I just think it's interesting that McCain is being criticized by you for choosing a woman but a liberal talk show host just said it was a good pick BECAUSE she is a woman. I just find that ironic. ANd I didn't say you said he was sexist at all. Reread it. And didn't you notcie the lol at the end???? Chill out!
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Obama campaigned and won the nomination of the democratic party. The process took over a year. Palin was approached less than 2 weeks ago.
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Your lol's are just like your "I was only kidding" or "it was a test", an attempt to cover up your posts that are called out.....just as you most certainly insinuated I was saying with my post. Just stand behind what you post instead of trying to run away from them again and again. And, Iwill NOT "chill out" when you try to put words in my mouth and posts. And I stand behind my posts 100%--never tried to hide behind a fake "lol" or "it was just a test"
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Your lol's are just like your "I was only kidding" or "it was a test", an attempt to cover up your posts that are called out.....just as you most certainly insinuated I was saying with my post. Just stand behind what you post instead of trying to run away from them again and again. And, Iwill NOT "chill out" when you try to put words in my mouth and posts. And I stand behind my posts 100%--never tried to hide behind a fake "lol" or "it was just a test"
I believe you stated that I called your remark sexist which I absolutely did not do. I believe YOU are the one putting words into someone mouth as I did not call you sexist.
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Obama campaigned and won the nomination of the democratic party. The process took over a year. Palin was approached less than 2 weeks ago.
Obama is top of his ticket.

Of course he was 'out there' before now.

Her record is one of change. That's their slogan and she is a good 'checkmate' to it.
 

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