I'm starting a new thread only because I'm uncomfortable posting my opinions in a thread that is talking about her clothing choices.

When I heard the word that Palin was McCain's choice for VP, I thought "OMG, McCain's desperate." The only rationale for choosing her seemed her gender. She certainly wasn't the most qualified of the candidates under consideration. I personally thought that McCain was going to go for Tim Pawlenty, who is young, charismatic, very well liked, and a two term governor. He also might be able to swing Minnesota to the "red" column of electoral votes. The biggest strike against him as a VP nominee, I thought, was his relative lack of experience, especially foreign affairs experience.

Never did I imagine that McCain would choose someone even less experienced than Pawlenty. Looking at it objectively, what is she bringing to the ticket that Pawlenty didn't? She's from a Red state, so there isn't the benefit of swinging the vote in a swing state. She's also from a Red state with a whopping total of 3 (yes, 3!) electoral votes, so it isn't that. She doesn't have the experience of even Pawlenty, who I thought was fairly limited in his experience. On matters held dear by conservative Republicans, she seem pretty much by the book, but so is Pawlenty.

But she is a woman. Affirmative action in a party that despises affirmative action. There is some irony there.

So, I've had about ten hours or so to digest McCain's choice. And my conclusion still is that "OMG, McCain's desperate." And woefully out of touch. If he really believes that the Hillary supporters who are still up in the air are going to swing his way because he chose a woman VP, he just doesn't get it. Hillary supporters supported her, a hard-bitten, tried-through-fire, candidate. Yes, a lot of them were seriously motivated by the fact that she was a woman. But they never would have supported her if they didn't see something in her that transcended gender. Hillary supporters thought that she was a great candidate, and the fact that she was a woman made it even more special.

McCain's choice reverses the equation. With Hillary, those of us who supported her thought that she was a great candidate, and then as a bonus, she was a woman, which beat back stereotypes.

McCain's choice seems to put a premium on the fact that Palin is a woman. He seems to drag it all back to viewing those people who really wanted Hillary to prevail as people who just wanted a woman to prevail. It's like he thinks that women are fungible. "You want a woman? I'll give you a woman." Yeehaw.

I do think that it's her gender coupled with her record that put her where she is.

I think people will be very surprised at her tough-as-nails capabilities. I've been googling old news stories about her and without question, what she lacks in DC experience she makes up for in having the hutzpah to see her convictions through. She has ENACTED change and it sounds like she accepts nothing less.

I'm shocked at her high approval rating as governor - over 80%! Surely not all of those are Republicans.

I read a blurb about a trip she made to Kuwait in '07. I'm curious to see what will be made of that. Sounds like she's a little more well-traveled than one might think at first glance.

In many ways it's probably too early to REALLY tell, but so far... she's knocking my socks off.

I like her. But, I also looked at the news reports of who was on McCain's short list a couple of months ago. I have read a lot about Sarah Palin the last couple of weeks.

I figured it would come down between her and Kay Bailey Hutcheson. I was hoping that Palin would be picked.

I like her mainly because she seems like a strong-will "country" girl type. I think she brings "fresh-air" to the Republicans.

Here's something interesting I just found about her. Within her power, it seems as governor she has supported the troops:

Governor Sarah Palin today signed two bills that recognize and show appropriate appreciation for those who are serving our country in the military.

“I am pleased to sign these bills in recognition of the great and selfless service provided by the fine men and women of our military,” Governor Palin said. “I know Alaskans are as appreciative as I am of the military and the efforts of those who serve to protect the freedoms we enjoy.”

Senate Bill 214, sponsored by Senator Charlie Huggins, relates to hunting, fishing and trapping licenses for military members. Military personnel stationed in Alaska and serving in any National Guard or Reserve unit will receive free hunting, fishing and trapping licenses. The new law brings Alaska into line with most other states by waiving a residency requirement. The bill had bipartisan support in both the House and Senate, where it passed without a dissenting vote. The new law takes effect January 1, 2009.

House Bill 326, sponsored by the Rules Committee at the request of the Governor, adds wildland fires to the list of emergencies under which the Governor may call the Alaska National Guard and Alaska Naval Militia into active state service. Additionally, the bill mandates that militia members be paid in a manner commensurate with others on the fire line. The new law takes effect in 90 days.

“I truly appreciate the hard work of Representatives Nancy Dahlstrom and Bob Roses, both of whom spearheaded this legislation from introduction to final passage,” Governor Palin said.

She's awesome. I was pratically giddy with the decision. SHe's a perfect pro-life ( and living it by the way) advocate, conservative yet feisty!! Much better than Romney for example. And if she's a woman, so what? She meets a lot of the criteria that McCain needed in a VP. Let the debates begin........Obama is less qualified to be president than she is to be vice president.

From what I've read and seen, I love her. Brilliant choice on McCain's part. ~Lisa

I would love there to be a couple of debates. I have a feeling she is one tough lady.
We will get to see how she can handle herself against "the boys club".
At least she will answer a direct question instead of talking circles around it.

Me too. She just really comes across as sincere and with the best interests of the people she represents, at heart.

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Looks like as CiC of the Alaska National Guard she made it a point to go visit them in Kuwait last year.

I do think her gender put her on the map, just like Obama's color put him there. It's what happens after the warm fuzzies about how far we've progressed as a nation have worn off that we view them for who they are and not the genetic demographic they represent.

I think that given the lack of available history for Obama and Palin, if ideology isn't the driving question, the question has to be, "Did he/she DO what he/she said they'd do?" I can't tell you if Obama did and since I don't agree with his politics, it doesn't really matter to me. Since I agree with Palin's politics, I have to then ask if she does what she says she'll do, if she just gives it lip service,or of she tries to do it but doesn't have what it takes to pull off the changes she believes in.

It looks like she *does* have the ability to effect change. That's very, very cool.

Anyone who does not KNOW that Palin was picked just because she is a woman is delusional. She has no national or foreign credential or experience. BUT, McCain and his advisors made what they thought was a wise and preemptive strike/decision. I think it will work for them on some levels, because I honestly do believe that there are some voters--both dem and rep-- who would vote for her or HRC just to vote for a woman. But, Palin would never have been concerned as a candidate before there was such talk of disenfranchisement over HRC. Come on, before yesterday JM had only met her once--and yesterday made it twice.

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Um, nor does Obama.

What does that say about the DNC's reasons for catapulting a virtual unknown to the top of the ticket?

I don't hate her but considering McCain could very well drop dead from the excitement of an inauguration(not that I really believe he will get that far but just in case ...), I think she is a poor choice for his VP. Being a part time mayor of a sleepy little town and then a Governor of a state with the population of Charlotte, N.C. does not qualify her for President. McCain sure doesn't adhere to his campaign slogan, Country First. It he did he would have chosen someone that is better prepared to take on the most powerful job in the world. He miscalculated if he thinks she will get the Hillary votes. I supported Hillary because of who she is not because of her gender. And Palin doesn't even know what a VP does. Her words not mine. And what about the allegations of abuse of power that have been brought against her. Not saying they are true or not. Just that the perception that they might be true is enough to turn people against her. I seriously question McCains judgment in choosing her.


He is showing signs of Alzheimers.

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Where did you get your medical degree?

Hi Pot, Meet Kettle

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I'm not telling people who has Alzheimers!!!

I’ve never heard of her before. But from what I’ve heard today I definitely don’t like her.

I found her speech this morning insulting…

"To serve as vice president beside such a man would be the privilege of a lifetime, and it's fitting that this trust has been given to me 88 years almost to the day after the women of America first gained the right to vote. I think as well today of two other women who came before me in national elections. I can't begin this great effort without honoring the achievements of Geraldine Ferraro in 1984, and, of course, Senator Hillary Clinton, who showed such determination and grace in her presidential campaign. It was rightly noted in Denver this week that Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America. But it turns out the women of America aren't finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all.” Sarah Palin

Oh goody, now I have a woman to vote for! Since I’m a woman that’s exactly what I’ll do by-golly! Because I'm soooo one-dimensional that my only concern is that a woman is in the White House. Hillary, Sarah, Hillary, Sarah they are soooo interchangeable Gee-wizz! I can count on John McCain's years and years of experiece to pick the right people for the job

I am afraid that is exactly why a huge percentage are voting for Obama. that they finally have a African America to vote for.
If they fully understood his "socialist " ideas there is no way a individual freedom loving country would even consider voting for him.

My head is spinning with all the double standard I have been reading the last two days. So much quesioning of Sarah Palin's moral character as a mother. I find it interesting that Senator Biden suffered the horrible tragedy of losing his wife and one of his children years ago, yet nobody questions the fact that he continued on as a Senator even though he had two young boys at home.

Yes, I think McCain was making a stategic move in choosing Palin. I don't care why he picked her, I think she is a breath of fresh air and has the potential to offer us "Change". I like her spunk and I like the fact that she is not intimidated by the big boys. I love the fact that she sold the frivolous private jet on Ebay. I wonder if Palosi made a bid on it?

Me thinks the tables have been turned and the Obama people and they are feeling a little threatened.

EXACTLY!!! I had this one stewing in my head yesterday, just didn't have time to post it. Thank you for saying this!!!

I, too, think she is a breath of fresh air and really someone I can get behind. I think she and McCain will make a GREAT team.

On a side note, don't you just think the fashion industry is LOVING all these women??? You KNOW they are all dieing to get Sarah Palin and Cindy McCain in their fashions. I can't wait

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Great here we go with the fashion bs again.
Never mind the fact that we will be deciding who is going to lead us out of the situation Bush has given us. We can all wait breathlessly to see what they will be wearing. No wonder McCain thinks that he can woo woman just by picking a female.

One of the reason fashion was probably brought up is because of Hillary dem. convention speech the other day she made a comment about "pantsuits".

It's deals with a certain type of mindset of the working high level woman.
The pantsuits came from the idea that women had to comform to a man's world. Dress/skirts had the "thought" of secretaries from the SUPPOSED man's point of view.
Some woman thought they only way to be taken seriously in the "man's world" was to try fit.

I love the fact that women feel comformable with themselves not to follow for that crap anymore.
Some of the most powerful women in the world wear what they feel comfortable in. Some wear skirts a lot, some business pantsuites, etc.

Questioning her moral character as a mother -- what does that mean? I questioned her judgement in choosing to be away (or travel with) a very young prematurely born baby with Downs syndrome and the health problems that usually accompany a baby with that diagnosis. She either will be away from the baby or traveling with the baby constantly for the next 2 months. If he were just a few months older it wouldn't bother me so much but IMO she's jeopordizing his health and well being at this stage in his young life.

There are many things I admire about Governor Palin and I do think she's a breath of fresh air. But, she will also be, as another poster said yesterday, half a heart beat away from the oval office and that scares the holy heck out of me.

IMO Senator McCain has "played" us all -- those of you who support her are, in many cases, the same people who railed against Senator Obama's lack of experience but now celebrate Governor Palin's selection for that very reason. Those of us on the other side who wanted more diversity are stymied because he selected a VP with little experience but the right plumbing. Now we're left to argue about which ticket has the least amount or the right kind of experience/inexperience.

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

Why is it ONLY HER responsibilty for that child and not the FATHER's?
The child has 2 parents.

Of course it's both of their responsibilities. Can you honestly downplay the significance of a mom opting to be away from, or traveling constantly for 2 months with, a young baby with his health problems. Would you do it?

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

I do think the Dad can take care of the job of taking care of the infant just fine. I do not see why the woman has to be the one to sacafice her career only because of the infant.
I also do know that they are lots of women in high-level important types of jobs that have to travel weeks, months, etc overseas for their job. Some do have small children, teenagers, etc. They manage as a family to do what is necessary.


It is not a question of if I would do it.
It is a question of a woman being able to have ANY career of her choice without being "low-thought" of because of it. The family unit is what is important. People make it work when it is important to them.

You missed my point entirely.

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

Oh please, there have been so many personal attacks and judgements made against her for being the mother of a special needs child running for VP. Look, if you feel that neither mother or father should run for VP because of the situation, then we will have to agree to disagree, and my comments weren't directed at you (not really sure why you would think they were directed at you anyways) However, if you feel that she shouldn't run, solely, because she is the mother ( as opposed to the father), than that is a double standard and an attack against her moral character as a mother.

I see a lot of speculation as to how their family will handle this situation, but the truth is, nobody knows what their plan is. From everything I have read about her, she is very involved in her family and they are a priority in her life. At this point, I have no reason to doubt that she will continue to make good choices, with regards to her family, in the future as well.

Are you surprised?

It will be interesting to see what journalists dig up about her over the next few days. There are an awful lot of rumors floating around.

From what I have read, Palin seems likeable, fun, and exciting; definitely a real go-getter.

However, I find McCain choosing her to be his VP nominee completely insulting.

Politico had an article giving 6 reasons that McCain picked Palin. 6 things the Palin pick says about McCain - Jim VandeHei and John F. Harris - Politico.com I kind of agree with the article. McCain had only met her one time before. As of the 15th., she stated that she had not been vetted. I don't think that she has been thoroughly vetted to this date. While, I'm sure that she appeals to the far, far, right, she seems to be a very odd choice.

I think McCain just gave the election to Obama.

Oh please, personal attacks for being the mother of a special needs child running for VP. If you can honestly say that you, in the exact same situation, would opt to campaign for the next 2 months, traveling with or without a 4 month old infant with significant health concerns, than you are a far different woman than me. And yes, IMO there is a big difference between the presence or absence of mom or dad at this stage in this particular infant's life. If he were a baby without such significant health concerns I would think differently. If you think I'm against working mothers based on my opinion on Governor Palin's specific situation you are way wrong.

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

Yes, and allegedly to the point of going after her brother-in-law in a divorce/custody suit that is currently being investigated. Maybe a little TOO involved.......

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Will it make you feel warm and fuzzy if they find something scandalous?

Do we know that the baby has health concerns? Of the three families I know whose children have Downs, I have no recollection of them having health problems other than that nursing was difficult because part of the lethargy associated with their conditions made the sucking reflex less powerful.

But as long as they were receiving adequate nutrition, they weren't any sicker or healthier than anyone else's babies.

I believe the key in your statement is "currently being investigated," and last I heard, she welcomed the investigation, stating she has nothing to hide. I've done some research on it and there are two sides to every story. You might want to reserve judgement at least until the investigation is complete; I know I will.

As far as the child with all the health problems, I didn't get that feeling at all. I watched an interview with her where she was asked how he was and she stated that he was doing fine.

Whether I would do what she is doing or not is not the issue. I'm not her, so it really doesn't matter what I would do.

Health problems???? I didn't know there were health problems. What have you heard?

I understood that the baby has Down Syndrome. That is NOT a health problem. And the baby has 2 caring parents - I understand that he is still being nursed by his mother. If this baby is being nursed, then he is probably healthier than typical babies, most of whom are not.

It sounds like you are confusing having Down Syndrome with having a health issue.

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In addition to having Downs syndrome, he was born a month premature which could possibly make him more susceptible to lung problems which is already a concern for Downs infants. Downs babies also frequently have heart defects and digestion problems. Other, less serious problems, may occur later in life.

I saw him yesterday on tv and he looks like a chubby little one and obviously they made the decision to go forward with her nomination. It's just a decision that I couldn't have made and find it difficult to relate to a woman who could.

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

If babies with Down Syndrome (NOT Downs babies) are born with heart defects, lung problems or digestive problems, it is clear very soon after birth. These are not problems that suddenly crop up. One month premature is not very premature - even if a child is born with Down Syndrome. In fact, it's pretty common. I don't believe that Gov. Palin would choose to travel extensively with her son, if this decision was met by criticism from the pediatrician. In fact, I wouldn't venture to assume that this little boy has health problems at all.

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Well spoken!

There would be no way at this point in time to have any idea how cognitavely disabled this child is. Physical problems are the norm, not the exception. She made the choice to bring this child into the world. While I don't have a problem with her working, I don't think that she should be spending the bulk of her time away from an infant.

I appreciate your correction of my terminology in referring to Governor Palin's son. I don't think I assumed that the infant has any health problems -- I simply pointed out that he might have a propensity to such problems due to the diagnosis of Down Syndrome and a premature birth. Traveling with or being away from an infant with such challenges at this stage of his life would not be a decision I would make nor frankly can I understand a woman who would but, as always, to each her own.

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

Absolutely untrue.

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I suppose it depends on your definition of the norm, but 50% is far from the exception.

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I may find myself in trouble for being incorrect here because I haven't checked this out, but it's always been my understanding that the problems that can arise from the hearts of children with Downs don't happen when they are children. They typically happen when those children become adults.

Something tells me that the children of the VP of the US will have access to an audiologist and an opthamoligist.

I think the fact that those opposed to Palin seem to need to investigate things that might be wrong with her kids as reason she shouldn't run is pretty telling.

Obama's children' could be diagnosed with cancer next week. What does that prove?

Elizabeth Edwards had cancer and you all thought it was so brave of her husband to run, despite the fact that it was highly likely that before his term would've been up his wife would've been dead and the children left with him as their ONLY parent.

This is very obviously something being done because she is a social conservative. No doubt about it. None at all.

I sense a lot of fear on the part of the Democrats.

I think your sensor's broken. Might want to get that checked.

[quote=wowitsdark;3038211]...I think the fact that those opposed to Palin seem to need to investigate things that might be wrong with her kids as reason she shouldn't run is pretty telling. .../QUOTE]


And I think the fact that you and others are bent on misinterpreting, either purposefully or because of obtuseness, what many of us are saying is also very telling.

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

If it makes you feel better to see it that way, be my guest!

[quote=ana21;3038219]It's ain't easy being Righteous.

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

And there we have it again.

Name-calling.

Ana, don't waste your time.

[quote=ana21;3038219]
Am I correct in thinking that you believe that she should not be going out on the campaign trail because her (little) baby son has Down Syndrome? You think she would have very little contact with the child during those 2 months?
That she should not be running for VP for the same reason that she needs to be at home(more) with the child than what you think a VP would be. Another type of job ok..but not VP.


I can understand that you say you can not connect to a woman/mother on this level. I just do not understand why you have to voice you "low-thoughts" of this mother because of her decision.

Edited to add: these questions were meant for "ana21"

Hmmmmm, thought more descriptive of a mindset but if you prefer to think it was name calling, carry on.

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

Nice.

Honestly I don't get the judging of this woman for what she thinks is right for her family. That said Palin and McCain's platform is opposite me on the issues (health care, same sex marriage, abortion, war in Iraq, the economy, foreign relations, offshore drilling, religion in schools, etc.). I would never vote for her or McCain.

This was lost above before I got an answer.

"ana21"
Am I correct in thinking that you believe that she should not be going out on the campaign trail because her (little) baby son has Down Syndrome? You think she would have very little contact with the child during those 2 months?
That she should not be running for VP for the same reason that she needs to be at home(more) with the child than what you think a VP would be. Another type of job ok..but not VP.


I can understand that you say you can not connect to a woman/mother on this level. I just do not understand why you have to voice you "low-thoughts" of this mother because of her decision.

sharkiz, I can respect that.

I agree with pretty much everything she stands for based on what I've seen so far. In fact, I'd pick her over McCain! I honestly just can't quit smiling because I'm incredibly impressed with the ability she seems to have to identify what needs done and make it happen. I think that's a quality great leaders have and I couldn't be happier.

I understand there are people with different views on the issues. But these attacks against her are incredibly personal, and seem to go against everything the left has supposedly championed since the 60's. The ONLY reason is because she has different views on some key social issues. If she were in favor of Roe V. Wade these attacks would not be occuring, IMHO.

It's true that she is lacking federal experience. That's a valid concern and worth criticism. But this one, IMHO, is not the one I'd have expected to see from the left.

I was also amazed at the responses.
But, I think it is because she is not the "democratic" version. Not their "type" of woman.

Edited to add:
That they are shocked that it was a Republican woman.
Even though their are LOTS of Republican women Representatives, Senators, Governors, etc.
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It's almost as though they've <gasp> flip-flopped!

[quote=forrestlayne;3038238]Once more, IMO, she is jeopordizing the health of a 4 month old prematurely born Down syndrome affected infant. If she has him with her on the road he will be exposed to the stress of daily travel with all the consquences even healthy people face with that regime. Leaving him home with dad in Alaska is the other option. IMO, a breastfeeding mom who would leave a 4 month old, even one without the challenges her infant faces, is not taking the best interests of the baby to heart.

It has nothing to do with Governor Palin running for VP. IMO, at this stage in her son's life he should be her absolute first priority. If the baby were just a few months older I think I would feel differently or maybe even if Alaska wasn't so darn far away from where she will be campaigning.

If her ticket wins I'm sure her family will be quite comfortable with the demands of her job and I in no way would have a problem.

I don't know what you mean by "low thoughts". If you mean my opinion that she is making the wrong choice for the welfare of the baby at this point in his life then I guess I have low thoughts of her.

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

OMG at the chance of being flamed by the people on this board who issue-wise I have the most in common with, I was thinking that also.

Oh and to the poster who asked about my medical degree I still think McCain shows signs of Alzheimer's. I don't need to be a doctor to recognize the symptoms as my late father-in-law, who was diagnosed with Alzheimer's about 2 years before he passed, was having problems remembering what he had previously said and was making poor choices. When I see McCain making gaffes that he wouldn't have 5-10 years ago, I am reminded of my father-in-law shortly before he died. Alzheimer's is a sad and scary disease. The Presidency is too important a job for someone so inflicted.

That's not true at all. You cannot pretend to know what we think.

[quote=ana21;3038259]I really do not know how much traveling she will have to do in these 2 months. But in the last 4 months she has traveled.
I do know her parents live in Alaska. Lots of grandparents, other family members help out with small infants (of all types of handicap) all the time in this country.

I do think they will watch out for this child as they have done with the rest of their children.

Do you also think it is ok for The Obama's to be away from their children just because they are a little older (ages 10 and 8 I think). Their children are not with them constanly on the campaign trail. Someone else is having to take care of them.

I do not see much differenceas long as the children are left in capable hands.

Seriously, we can't waste our time with the people that made up their minds before they even read -- or pretend to read -- what some of us post. They see the name of the poster and, bam!, their own Righteousness kicks in. Reason, I now understand, is a waste of time. Explaining your position is a waste of time. Responding is a waste of time.

I highly recommend the ignore list.

I think it is the mostly the Democrats on the board that made up their mind withour even researching anything. You saw Republican woman and that was the end of it.

It would be find if you attacked Palin on her views. But attacking like some have is no better than attacking Obama because he is part black.

I said "as a side note". I don't base my vote on what someone wears or if they are male or female

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Funny, I would say exactly the same thing about the Republicans' response to Palin.

Try looking up what Rove said about Tim Kaine a few months ago vs. what he said about Palin yesterday. It's quite entertaining and reminds me mightily of some people here. Flippity floppity.

I do not like Rove or Kaine (I think he is one of the worst in VA).

Like I stated before I did look at CBS short list (even posted it weeks ago) and looked at each candidate and what they could add to the McCain ticket.
I did know things about Palin before yesterday! I do like what Palin said about Ron Paul weeks ago.

Edited to add: That I did stated in a thread weeks ago that the more I learned about Palin the most interested/ liked her.