I don't know about you, but my reaction to Palin's pack o'lies was to make another donation to the Obama campaign. I was disgusted by her use of her son as a weapon in that speech. Special needs? What did she do in her big 20 months as a executive in Alaska to help special needs kids? Give me a break.

She used her motherhood in that speech and I say it's fair game to call her on it. She used it, she better be prepared to defend it.

She repeated the proven lie about the Bridge to Nowhere.

She repeated the McCain lie about Obama's tax plan.

McCain an agent of change? True enough, Bush brought change and McCain supported it 90% of the time. Disrespect for America, disregard for the Constitution, the trashing of civil rights, the start of torture, the outing of CIA agents -- yes, all change from the Clinton administration. Is that change we want?

As for her disdain for community organizers, tell that to Martin Luther King. To Gloria Steinem. To Eleanor Roosevelt. To Thomas Paine. To Thomas Jefferson and John Adams and Benjamin Franklin, community organizers all.

She spoke of the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull being lipstick? Take off the lipstick and a female pit bull, that's what you are, Palin. You got that one right on the nose.

I know, neocons, I'm bitter, I'm nasty, I'm all the other names you've called me. Rubber, glue and all that.

don't know about you, but my reaction to Palin's pack o'lies was to make another donation to the Obama campaign. I was disgusted by her use of her son as a weapon in that speech. Special needs? What did she do in her big 20 months as a executive in Alaska to help special needs kids? Give me a break

Thanks for bringing this up to light T...I stayed away from it because it would look like I was doing my own thing about the disablity rights...been slammed enough for that one..<whatever>
Anywho...everyone is just *gushing* to me about how she is *my spokesperson*.....noooooo...
where do people not understand that the more well to do with special needs children live nowhere in the world of my world of children with special needs??
Nothing is a fight...there is plenty of money for expensive therapys and nannys and I can bet your butt she has never stayed up 48 hours straight going back and forth between two hospitals waiting in ERS...nah...she never ever will...
She is not *my* spokesperson, she most likely never even looked at a special needs child until it hit her life..and I can most likely bet ...nah shut up lori..lol...
I might be a wild eyed liberal...but I am not a wild eyed pistol waver....
Thanks be....

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What she did for special needs children was to cut funding.

Truble, I had the same reaction. She came off to me vicious and nasty. And, I think that this type of nastiness is what incited the three skinheads to show up in Denver to kill Obama and what caused the Democratic party chairman of Arkansas to be murdered.

How odd for them to try and paint Obama as elitist because he hasn't eaten moose when their candidate spends $550 on a pair of loafers, owns 12 houses and flies around in private jet. But, but, but, he was a POW!!!!

because he hasn't eaten moose

I want to know who was poor enough to have ate hamburger helper.....
My bet is on Obama...
Reason I say that is it has come to light there are people who I know have never ate it...
So it has become a new standard for me...forget the apple pie...who knows Hamburger Helper...
<sorry on major pain meds>

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She's not afraid to get her hands dirty.......Obama lets everyone else do his dirty work, that way he appears sqeaky clean.

The fact that you are energized just makes me happier.

Melissa

If I may interject--No one really knows why Gwatney was gunned down. Gwatney owns, I think, 3 car dealerships in the Little Rock area. And there has been speculation that the man who killed him had some issue revolving around a car. The man who gunned Gwatney down, had just been fired/terminated from his job at Target as well (thank god it wasn't Wal-Mart, because I'm sure if it had been--Wal-Mart would have been the root cause of this man's psychotic break).

Not that I'm defending crazed Republicans! I just don't think that Gwatney's murder was politically motivated. I could be wrong---I often am!

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I don't hink that she's afraid to get dirty at all. In fact, I can see her mud wrestling.

While I'm quite sure that she energized the anti-abortion, global warming isn't happening, let's shoot everyone who disagrees with us but torture them first crowd, have you considered the rest of America?

Her sister has a special needs child, he is 13. Exactly what that "special need" is, I don't know. I can empathise with people who have a special needs child. I do hope Gov. Palin holds to her promise to help in this area.

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Do you consider the "rest" of America. I don't think so.

And by the way I more of the, Pro-Life, global warming may be happening, but hasn't there been climate change for millions of years ( I am a Creationist, I say millions just for the sake of argument ) and we do need to take care of the earth God created for us, don't shoot or torture people crowd.

Melissa

Liberals/progressives need to know is that this election is not about issues, it's about personalities. Cynical with a complete disregard IMO for the future of our country.

McCain Manager: 'This Election is Not About Issues' - The Fix

Throw in a little faux outrage over liberal media's perceived sexism and we're on our way to a Hockey Mom half a heart beat away from the Presidency.

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

Lies and fear. There is a part of our population that seems to thrive on a good dose of fear. Scare them and they're happy. Tell the lies and scare them and they're even happier. I admit that I'm a glass half empty kind of person, but you try to scare me too often and I start going in another direction.

But this doesn't seem to happen with a lot of people. It's like they are addicted to fear. OOOH the boogeyman is going to raise your taxes. OOOH the boogeyman is going to let the terrorists overrun us. OOOH the boogeyman is going to give all our money to the riffraff. OOOH we need to revert to the fifties, where men were men, and women were women and the men went to work and did manly things, and the women stayed home and did womanly things, and blacks only showed up to do work around the house and then went quietly away, and there were no other minorities to contend with because no one would sell a house to them, and everything was just about perfect.

Except for a few minor problems. Wife beating was acceptable, after all you had to sometimes keep them in line. Lynching was out of favor in most of the country, what a shame. The unions were powerful, not so good. A married woman didn't have the right to make a major purchase without spousal approval, but who cared right? Schools were segregated as they should be. As an aside, in my school we had whites bused in so they wouldn't have to go to the schools in their area that were black. Reverse busing I guess you could call it. Of course since they lived in the projects they couldn't mingle with the rest of us. There are limits after all. And of course child beating was not only acceptable, in some areas it was expected. Girls were not encouraged to go to college, for the most part, after all they were just going to get married, so they didn't need an education.

Fear and change. Fear of change. Striving for something that never was. Is there a name for that? I think it's called a Republican.

I really don't think that the Bible was written as a science manual snd I just don't know how long a day is to God. You are right about the Earth having been subject to many variations in its climate and there are myriad causes. However, there is an overwhelming consensus among scientists that man is the cause of this warming perios. Dissent lies in how rapidly the changes will take place. You can find some "scientific" papers which totally deny that man is responsible. They are totally funded by Exxon.

There are those out there who believe that we need do nothing to protect our resources. They interpret the Bible passage "the Lord will provide" to mean that, if we run out of food, it's end times. Already, our waters are overfished and we'll need to double the amount of food we produce globally within 10 years to avoid starvation if we do not curb population growth.

I think our education system is lousy in all subjects, especially science and math and really everything else.

LOL.

Oh, and Sarah, something for you to think about : Jesus was a community organizer. Pontius Pilate was an executive.

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All I know is that the murderer showed up and requested to see the head of the Democratic party. It sounded politically motivated to me. You're right, we'll never know. He was fired from a Target for writing graffitti on a wall.

I still think it's ironic that the McCains would call anyone elitist.
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It takes my breath away.

Well Obama probably would have wanted the Blessed Mother to have an abortion so that trumps your statement. He wouldn't have wanted her to be saddled with a child!!!

How do you suppose he ended up with 2 kids? You cannot believe a word that comes out of your own mouth.

Oh me too. I don't think I've spent $300,000 on clothes in my lifetime. What Mrs. O wore on the View is much more my style and only cost $148.

Michelle Obama's cheap-o Donna Ricco 'View' dress flies off the racks! | The Dish Rag | Los Angeles Times

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

Oh brother........................................... .............................................

Amen to that. She lies when the truth would suit her better. Go figure, must just be a bad habit.

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You say that like it's a bad thing .....

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Amen again. KTS doesn't understand what choice means. Obama would most certainly NOT want her to get an abortion, but he would want her to have the CHOICE to have one if SHE wanted one.

Truly, I try and not read garbage but sometimes I think KTS posts just to get a rise out of someone. So I played.,.,.

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Some other community organizers:

Martin Luther King
Jane Addams - Founder of the U.S. Settlement House movement, and the first American woman to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
César Chávez - Mexican-American farm worker, labor leader, and civil rights activist who, with Dolores Huerta, co-founded the National Farm Workers Association, which later became the United Farm Workers.
Dorothy Day - American journalist. She became known for her social justice campaigns in defense of the poor, forsaken, hungry and homeless.

..just to name a few.
Community organizing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here are some responses regarding Palin's mention of community workers and "actual responsibilities":
Faith In Public Life - Blogging Faith

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Real eyes...realize...real lies.

Of course I understand what choice means and how Obama got two kids....DUH. Can you folks not connect the dots? I guess I need to spell things out a lot more clearly for some of you libs on here. And actually your statement is inccorect. YOU DON"T KNOW if Obama would or wouldn't want her to get one. Since he wants her to have the CHOICE to decide had she wanted her to get one then he would have to respect her choice. Just like I don't know if he would want her to get one. My point was not to be taken literally but just stated some of his prior comments and how they could be applied. There would be NO waffling or misunderstanding with the McCain/Palin ticket though!!!!!

Which will most definitely contribute to their loss in the upcoming election!

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KKTS said:

"Of course I understand what choice means and how Obama got two kids....DUH. Can you folks not connect the dots? I guess I need to spell things out a lot more clearly for some of you libs on here. And actually your statement is inccorect. YOU DON"T KNOW if Obama would or wouldn't want her to get one. Since he wants her to have the CHOICE to decide had she wanted her to get one then he would have to respect her choice. Just like I don't know if he would want her to get one. My point was not to be taken literally but just stated some of his prior comments and how they could be applied. There would be NO waffling or misunderstanding with the McCain/Palin ticket though!!!!!"


Now I am convinced that you don't read anyone's post much less what you post yourself. YOU are the one who said that Obama would WANT her to get an abortion:

KTS said:

"Well Obama probably would have wanted the Blessed Mother to have an abortion so that trumps your statement. He wouldn't have wanted her to be saddled with a child!!!"

I repeat my comment...Sen Obama would want her to have the choice to have an abortion or not. IF she decided to have the baby or abort it, then he would support her.

Good grief. Connecting....the.....dots.

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