From International Network of Liberal Women:
From their Manifesto: A higher participation of women in decision-making and incorporation of a gender perspective in the analysis and resolution of cultural, social, political and economic processes and programmes. added by me: UNLESS YOU ARE A CONSERVATIVE.
From their Constitution:
1. AIMS
1.1 To raise liberal women’s awareness of their political rights and responsibilities.
1.2 To expand the participation of liberal women in politics at local, national and international level, and within Liberal parties world-wide.
1.3 To strengthen relationships and exchange information between liberal women world-wide.
1.4 To encourage liberal women to promote the values of liberalism and the spread of liberal ideas world-wide.
I find it interesting that none of this can/does apply to Sarah Palin. Hence the bashing of Sarah. I really thought liberal women were for all women but my eyes have been opened by all the hate and bashing on here by liberal women against Sarah Palin. I guess they really aren't for womens rights (or unborn womens rights), just LIBERAL womens rights something I really didn't know until the last few days.

I swear to God--every time I read the crap you post I can feel my brain cells just shriveling up. What you post makes little to no sense, you're like a record that skips--will drive a person crazy. You think if we put a penny on your head, you'd quit skipping and make more sense??

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Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

I think what Kathy posted is actually very clear.

Historically, the Gloria Steinem (sp?) types have proclaimed that they were fighting for *women*.

In reality, the fight was for women with liberal ideology.

Thanks wowitsdark. Well stated.

Here is just another thing I thought was interesting. NOW does not support Gov. Palin... She apparently is a woman who doesn't support her own rights...
Not Every Woman Supports Women's Rights: Statement on Sarah Palin

Taking the choice issue out of the question, what exactly is liberal ideology?

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Ana
The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

And I love her!!!!

Why would liberal women fight for rights for those who don't want them and often don't want anyone else to have them? All of you who want to give up your rights are free to do so. Just don't expect all of us to fall into lockstep with you.

Great point!! IMO Sarah Palin and most of us as women have benefited greatly from the "liberal" ideology of women like Gloria Steinem. I would venture to guess that even the conservative icons like Mona Cherin and Phyllis Schlafly benefited; if only by making careers and fortunes by opposing women's "rights". I suspect though it would be a cold day in heck before they or any of their sisters in conservatism would admit it.

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Ana
The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

You go to a "liberal" site; What the hell did you expect?

No one should back Sarah Palin simply because she's a woman! You should back her because you share some of the same ideologies or positions on issues.


Of course, Libs don't back/like Palin! She's a conservative for goodness sake....

I, like other posters here, have come to the conclusion that you just like to stir the pot and make trouble.

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Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

I've gotta tell you, though... I don't think she's the only pot-stirrer around here.

I don't dislike Palin. I don't dislike McCain. I admire both of them and after listening to them speak I am more sure than ever that Sen Obama and the ticket he is on is the right one for me. Does it always have to be hate if you don't vote for the other guy?

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maybe not---but none of the others just really post off the wall crap!

I mean good grief--she went to a LIBERAL site, Palin is most assuredly NOT a LIBERAL! What was she expecting!? That's kind of like me going into a Catholic church and expecting speaking and tongues and dancing in the aisles or maybe a few snake charmers! Or open a Dr. Pepper and being disaapointed when it doesn't taste like Sprite!
I will hand it to her--she's consistent. You can always count on her to post something truly inflammatory, controversial or just outright bizarre.

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Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

There is a difference between individual rights and women rights (or other group rights).

Well I always thought the "libs" and the womens rights people are for all women. I find the extreme criticism of Sarah Palin to be in contradiction to "womens rights". So I was trying to find something on the web that might explain why this is. The info I posted was one of the first things that came up. I sincerely thought liberal feminists were for ALL women not just liberal women. I was truly surprised that wasn't the case.

Wait, weren't you the one who called me the "c" word and later apologized?

Yep--I realized that when I called you that I was wrong, and that it was completely inappropriate and rude. I vented on you when it wasn't you that I was upset/angry with--I shouldn't have called you that. I should have walked away from the computer. I can't change the fact that I said/typed it, but I did and do sincerely apologize. It was completely wrong of me.

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Mental that one, I'm telling you. ---Ron Weasley, "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets"

Thank you. I do understand. You all might think I'm a pot stirrer, etc.. but I'm not a name caller.

There are a lot of reasons that she will not get my support. I regard the church that she belongs to as dangerous. We have freedom of religion in this country so she's certainly free to worship as she wishes and believe what she wants to believe. One of the things that she believes is that Catholics are not Christians. Other things that she believes are that Biblical teachings are to be implemented throughout government. In other words, it would be her church's interpretation of the Bible. She believes that our attack on Iraq is just part of end times scenarios.

I think that she deserves her Sarah Barracudu nickname. While mayor, she fired the police chief because after a spate of drunk driving deaths, he wanted the bars to close of 2 a.m. instead of 5 a.m. She did the same the thing to the town's librarian. Sarah wanted to go through the library and choose books to ban. She has done this to several other officials in her little town. I think that she's probably guilty of abuse of power in her current position. She has refused to testify.
I think she needs to be transparent if she wants to run for public office.

She is not only against choice, she's against birth control. I don't understand why she lies about the plane. It's cool that she listed it on EBay, but it never sold. She ended up using a broker and sold it for $600,000 less than the purchase price. She certainly didn't make money. Why lie? She claims to hate earmarks but hired a lobbyist, who is linked to Abramoff, and sure managed to bring a lot of pork to Alaska.

Interesting, I googled "women's rights" and came up with:

women's rights - Google Search

"women's rights group" brought up:

women's rights groups - Google Search

Ah, here you go, google "liberal women's rights groups" -- the group you referenced is about half way down the page.

liberal women's rights groups - Google Search

Ah shopper, took a while but you found a site to support your "theory"!

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

Here is my understanding of these issues.

1) Regarding the library, she did not ever ask that any books be banned. The librarian had signed a paper indicating loyalty to the incumbant mayor that Palin beat out. She and Palin did not have any warm feelings for each other from day one. Palin asked her if it was her policy - or could be policy - to remove materials that were (and I don't want to use a word here lest I mis-quite what I read, but 'inappropriate' is the word that comes to mind.... which I realize is an objective term). The woman either didn't respond, or responded that no, she was not open to that. And that was the end of it. She was never asked to remove any books. The librarian admitted this to the city council - that she had never actually been asked to remove anything at all.

There is a list of books flying around the web that is supposedly the list Sarah Palin gave the librarian. It's bogus. Some of the books on the list weren't even published at the time that woman was the librarian. I also came across an article from a paper from Alaska that was dated back then - it's not a new article - and people were apparently at the council meeting where it was an issue complaining about the librarian being inept and lazy and not doing her job.

2) Regarding the eBay thing.... you called her a liar for saying that. Or at least, said she was lying, so that's pretty much the same thing. I haven't heard her say it sold on eBay. I've heard her say she didn't need it and she had it put on eBay. I've never heard her say it SOLD on eBay. The point of her telling that isn't supposed to be about the sales venue. The point is that she got rid of the lavish trappings the former governor had. The eBay thing makes a great sound byte and it's not untrue. Big deal if she had to then put it up for sale in another venue?

3) I don't see the earmarks being a big deal, personally. It's one thing to wish the process was different, but when that's what it is, it's what states have to do to get funding. It would've been irresponsible of her first as a mayor and then as a governror *not* to compete for those funds that the federal government is giving away. I think it's not the best way to go about things myself, but part of what I do as a WAHM is help non-profits find funding for projects... and sometimes a federal agency's grant money is a good fit. And sometimes the only way to get that money is through a lobbyist.

The system sucks, but it's tax money paid to the feds by citizens of every state, and that's the way congress has chosen to distribute it.

I really need to see a link for that one!!!!!! The Barracuda name was from her days playing high school basketball. Why does she have such a high approval rate in Alaska then?

I'm not sure what I googled but I was looking for info on why all the "libs"/"feminists" on here are so disgusted with her when it seems they should be applauding all she is doing and has accomplished. There is a good possiblity we may have the first female vice president yet so many libs/fem on here think she should stay at home. Seems very contradictory to me. I really didn't know there were liberal womens rights vs non-liberal womens rights. Doesn't that go against everything feminists are supposed to believe in? That we can make choices relevant to how we think our lives should be and not be punished for our choices or treated less than a man? Why do these rights not apply to Sarah Palin? BEcause she's a conservative?????

Disgusted is a very strong word for what many of us expressed. Further I don't think anyone said she should stay home. Thinking many of us with questions about her acceptance of the nomination were just as surprised at the reaction from many more conservative women who often rail against "working women" -- present company excluded apparently.

See the Dr. Laura blog posted in another thread. She was much more extreme in her opinion. As for me, I'm finished with the subject.

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

I don't support her because she hasn't given me any reason to support her. I don't care that she is a woman. That doesn't give me any more reason to support her than does the fact that Barack is black gives you a reason to support him if you disagree with his positions.

There are a number of reasons why I think she is not someone that I can support. First and foremost, her policies aren't mine. She and I couldn't be further apart on most issues. Even on those where she espouses support for an issue about which I believe (e.g., support for aid to children with disabilities), I don't see anything to back up her statement of support. Yes, she has a child with a disability. Hopefully, that will make her more empathetic towards persons with disabilities. I do wonder where she stands on the amendments to the Americans With Disabilities Act, which are making there way through Congress. Bush has talked about vetoing the amendments, which have wide spread congressional support, and as far as I know, Palin hasn't expressed her view.

At best, though, this is a wash on this one relatively narrow issue. I believe that I can count on the Democrats supporting the rights of persons with disabilities; at best I can hope that Palin, in her marginal role as VP, might have some impact.

On other issues, we just don't even meet in the middle.

Second, I don't think that she has anywhere near the experience that we want. I know that you decry Obama's experience. I just don't understand how someone can criticize him and yet embrace her as experienced. She isn't. Wasilla is tiny, tiny. Even there, she certainly screwed up a few times. She certainly didn't end its reign as the Meth Capitol of Alaska. And all her talk about how she was better than Obama because she was an "executive," I thought, really underscored the fact that McCain, who is the candidate for president, hasn't been an executive, and the talk of how much she was an "outsider," only emphasized how much of an insider McCain is. And frankly, I thought her whole "executive" thing was really beside the point. Jimmy Carter had more "executive" experience than she did. Now, I liked and like Jimmy Carter, but I don't know that many Republicans would say that his "exeuctive" experience made him qualified to be president.

I really dislike the emphasis, BTW, on her looks. I know someone from Wasilla. When he was asked to describe Palin, he said that she was "hot." Now, he maybe is an idiot, but I was looking for a more definitive statement about her. I've heard a lot about how she is "hot." (In all candor, I heard that about Obama too, although it usually wasn't the first thing mentioned.) I'd like to think there was more about a candidate that would be remarkable.

Third, she is a drink that doesn't sit well with time. I listened to her speech during the RNC. I was very impressed with her poise and her timing. Granted, it was a speech that was written for her, but it does take a talent to read the teleprompter and appear comfortable and in command. But she was like Chinese food for me. After the initial satisfaction, I was left hungry. Where were the substantive statements? A diet of slurs and slangs doesn't leave you very satisfied. Also, I really, really didn't like the slurs on "community organizers." Anyone who has done this sort of work at all knows how hard and how thankless it is, and we all should realize how vital it is. To make it a punchline just pissed me off.

So, at the end of the day, we have a woman who can deliver a great speech and who has views that I don't agree with. I don't really care that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant or that she is going to campaign with a 5 month old child. While I do think those are points that Republicans would go crazy about if they were facts about Obama, I wouldn't think that they were necessarily relevant to him and I am willing to say that they aren't enough to make me think she is a bad VP choice. If she takes strong stands on teaching abstinence as a family value, I will have to reconsider this position, however. That would just be too, too, hypocritical

When it comes down to it, I'm voting for President, and I think McCain gives me four more years of the same failed policies of the last eight. I think that Palin is ill equipped on every number of issues. She never even got a passport before 2007. On a side note, I thought that the whole "Alaska is near Russia" refrain was the most transparently stupid remarks of the entire night. Since when does geographic proximity equate to foreign policy experience?

Anyway, I don't like her. And it is all about not liking what she espouses, and it has nothing to do with her being a woman. And if you can't see the difference, that's your problem.

Libs don't like Mrs Palin because of her platforms, i.e., anti-choice, pro-guns, pro-creationism, anti-specific religions (such as Catholics), is currently being investigated for "Troopergate" among others. I could care less what she looks like, how many kids she has, who takes care of her kids, etc. Just because "libs" don't agree with any particular person's policies or stances does NOT mean they hate them or are jealous (as has been accused her on this site) or even don't like her personally....just don't like and agree with her policies. If you don't like Mr. Obama's or HRC's platforms/policies, does that mean you don't like them or hate them personally? How could that be when you do not know them on a personal level with personal experiences? Yes, I do not like Mrs. Palin's policies, but I have nothing PERSONAL against her....she may be a very nice person IRL. And, to paint all libs with the same brush is just ignorant to begin with. We are as different individually as is each "conservative" woman out there.

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Alleluia!!!!!!!!

This is an excellent post! I don't agree with all your positions, but at least I know what they are. People should most definitely look for someone that supports their policies. Thank you!

ah shopper, thinking vade in pace would have been a tad more appropriate

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The Republicans have been putting lipstick on a pig for 8 years. Is a pitbull wearing lipstick an attempt to keep us from noticing the pig?

Libs aren't going to vote for someone that they disagree with just because she's a woman. Have I stated things simply enough for you to understand?

Slate has some good articles on Palin's Church: Why Christian conservatives love Sarah Palin. - By Hanna Rosin - Slate Magazine

And, on Palin herself: The Sarah Palin FAQ. - By Derek Thompson - Slate Magazine

Yes, I know that. But why bash her?????? That's what I'm questioning. Shouldn't ALL women be excited about a woman as a VP candidate? Doesn't that go with the feminist view? Or ONLY if you agree with her politiics?

I'll be honest, I don't have the time to read thru those right now so I just skimmed them. but does anybody else have any info about Palin's church and what they stand for? Someone posted about her not believing Catholics are Christian. I'd really love to see some more about this as I'm Catholic.

TIA

I believe she's a member of the Assembly of God. I know a few people of that faith that are lovely people, but I don't want to discuss religion with them.

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It would be idiotic for any woman to vote for another woman based only on her gender. An INFORMED voter votes on the issues and policies--not on the plumbing of the candidate. The "feminist" view believes that women have the right to have all the benefits of men, and that includes the opportunities to lead the nation/government. But, to truly be considered equal and right, the "feminist" view, also wants ALL candidates to be QUALIFIED in all areas.

And, pointing out how one woman's views are different from Mrs. Palin is not bashing her. Most posts you will find on this board regarding those not supporting Mrs. Palin are calling out her adverse platforms that disagree with our beliefs and goals for all women and men. To consider having thoughts of our own is NOT bashing.

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Apparently not.

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Who's bashing her? Facts are facts. We've explained time and time again why we're not voting for her. Her nomination isn't history. Dems did it 35 years ago with Ferraro.

Her beliefs really are on the fringe as far as Christianity goes. Her pastor scares me far more than Rev. Wright scares my fellow white skinned Americans.

And, if I may point out, when Hillary was running, the loathing was palpable from the right. I didn't hear you celebrating the historic nature of her run for president.

I do not understand why she feels it necessary to parade her pregnant teenage daughter and the teenage father around like it's something to celebrate instead of the great tragedy it is for these two young people.

If you want to hear me say something nice about her, here it comes. I very much like that she let Piper come to swearing in for governor wearing a tiara.

Thanks. I have known a few AOG, never really talked religion with them though. I'll check it out.

I didn't say anyone should vote for her because she is a woman. Don't put words in my mouth. I just don't understand why the "feminists" out there aren't applauding her nomination no matter what party she is. I hear most of the criticism of her - that she should stay home (barefoot and pregnant lol) - from so called feminists or libs. To be critical of her working mom status seems to fly against what women having fought for this so long. I think I was made fun of on here for not jumping up and down that we have a black presidential nominee. If McCain/Palin win the election it is also an historical event-whether you are a libertal or a conservative.

Who's bashing her? Facts are facts. We've explained time and time again why we're not voting for her. Her nomination isn't history. Dems did it 35 years ago with Ferraro.

Her beliefs really are on the fringe as far as Christianity goes. Her pastor scares me far more than Rev. Wright scares my fellow white skinned Americans.

And, if I may point out, when Hillary was running, the loathing was palpable from the right. I didn't hear you celebrating the historic nature of her run for president.

I do not understand why she feels it necessary to parade her pregnant teenage daughter and the teenage father around like it's something to celebrate instead of the great tragedy it is for these two young people.

If you want to hear me say something nice about her, here it comes. I very much like that she let Piper come to swearing in for governor wearing a tiara.

What you choose to focus on is definitely NOT what most posters here are stating or focusing on. THere is not a single poster here that stated the only reason they are not voting for her is becaue she has kids or should be a stay-at-home mom or barefoot and pregnant as you stated. There has been some criticism by a few of that choice--not necessarily saying that her choice is wrong--but that rather that this is not a decision or choice that they can understand or would choose for themselves. Point out the links or even link that says the ONLY reason they would not vote for her is because she has made the choice to campaign as a woman with a family and young children. I, on the other hand will be extremely--and ABLE TO--point out all the posts on her intelligently spelling out just what platforms and policies and past actions which are the reason that these posters will not be supporting or voting for Palin. Not one wants her barefoot and pregnant or any such out-dated ideal.

What you DID say is that all women should be happy just to have a woman as a VP candidate. That is not true when the candidate is NOT qualified in our opinion. And, as an aside, you were NOT happy to have HRC as a candidate for PRESIDENT.

And, by the way, there is absolutely no way on this earth that McCain/Palin have any chance of winning--but having the first AA President of this nation is truly going to be a historical event to celebrate.

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The barefoot/pregnant statement was a joke. Did you not see the lol?
Gee, I just heard on the tv that McCain voted 88% of the time as the voters wanted when the issue was against government spending but Obama voted at 18%. Yes, that's the man for me! NOT. Obama is soooooooo not qualifed to be the the President. Anyone who realistically cannot see that has their head up their...oops I mean in the sand.

So, SHOW ME THE LINK OR POSTS where people here say THE ONLY REASON they will not vote for her is because she should stay home--as this is a direct quote from your quote:

"I hear most of the criticism of her - that she should stay home (barefoot and pregnant lol) - from so called feminists or libs. To be critical of her working mom status seems to fly against what women having fought for this so long. I think I was made fun of on here for not jumping up and down that we have a black presidential nominee. If McCain/Palin win the election it is also an historical event-whether you are a libertal or a conservative."


As I said I will be more than happy and ABLE to give you links to hundreds of posts on this board showing posters referring to exact policies of Mrs. Palin as the reason for their lack of support for her.

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Have the courage to be yourself.

You are so totally lost on this that I won't waste my time trying to explain it to you.

Only because there ARE no such posts, and you will never admit you are wrong.....or just show us the posts. THOSE WERE YOUR WORDS NOT MINE!!!!

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Have the courage to be yourself.

There have been tons of posts on here dissing her working mom status as a potential VP. That's what I've been talking about. Seems to me a feminist would be supportive of her choices for her life and her family. I bet if she were a Democrat it would be a whole different story.

The point is, Kathy, not one poster said they would NOT vote for her only and solely based on this---the reasons are her stances and policies.....

Yet your quote states that we should just support her just because she is a female. That would be stupid and shallow to do on that basis only.

Once again, these are YOUR own words:

" I just don't understand why the "feminists" out there aren't applauding her nomination no matter what party she is. I hear most of the criticism of her - that she should stay home (barefoot and pregnant lol) - from so called feminists or libs. To be critical of her working mom status seems to fly against what women having fought for this so long."

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Have the courage to be yourself.

Jeanie. forget about ever getting any answers from KTS, this is a pattern with her. She posts something silly and then spends the rest of the time until the thread is closed trying to change what she said or change what you said. And she already told you, it was a joke. Or a test. We just have to guess when we play the KTS game.

The concept is lost. To her logic, all women vote as a block and if Hill had gotten the nod, all women would have voted for her. Seems to be that McCain thought the same thing by trotting out a woman for VP. The cons are hoping that all the women will vote for Sarah. There is no understanding that the issues and where the candidates stand on issues are what smart people vote on.

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Are you sure???? I am SURE that KTS would have voted for HRC just BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN

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Have the courage to be yourself.

I know it seems like she would. LOL but that is just a trick or a test or a joke! I don't know which! Keeps us on our toes, right?

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There were several posters on the first day the story broke about Palin being VP pick that attacked her being a mother (with small children).It wasn't until things have calmed down before they said it was because of her views of issues.
Go read back thur some of the post from the other week. The first comments were directed to the fact of a 4 -month Down syndrome child.

It might have not been what the posters meant but that certainly is the idea they gave.

Maybe on the first day, some posters felt that with the problems her family had that she should have stayed closer to home but when they got more information, their thoughts changed into what they really think. For the record, I think that McCain picked her because he has such disdain for women that he thinks that we will vote en masse for any woman. I don't think that he thinks highly of women and their brains.

Of course, in the Conservative dictionary, that is the very definition of a flip flopper. I think that Sarah should run for VP but I also believe that she should stay closer to her home and family. But I don't think I have to worry because on Nov 5, that is just where she will be headed. Home to Alaska!!

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there were numerous posts critical of her for leaving her child, yes. There were posters -- even conservative ones believe it or not, who said they could not do this with their own kids or special needs kids--but they did not say this would keep them from voting for her.
Just because, as you just said, "it might not have been what the posters meant", does not mean that your interpretation of the post allows you to make it mean what YOU want it to mean and not what they posted or meant.

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I will not point out certain posters ..but read the earlier posts about the subject.

First reactions are your most honest reactions.
After some had time to think about what/how they said things they soften their tone.

But after thought and more informatioin, they developed more reasons why they did not think she was a good pick but in the end, it didn't change the way they will vote. I, at first glance, thought to myself and said to others, I could not leave that baby if I were her. Then I said when I heard her 17 year old daughter was having a baby, I knew I could not leave her either. My place would have to be in the home. But, it didn't matter to me what Sarah does because I would not vote for John McCain and the platform he is standing for. Even if he put Hilary as his VP. I still would vote for the Obama/Biden ticket.

Simply because I share the same gender as the Rep VP ticket does not mean that I am such a sheeple that I only vote for someone who has the same gender traits as I do. I know there are people who only vote a certain ticket, even if a monkey is on the ticket running. Most people don't and for everyone to be put in such a little box is stereotypical especially to say that women will vote for any women anywhere. That statement says that we are so stupid and don't care about the issues. This has been said every which way but Sunday already.

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But, there are some of us conservative women that might vote for this ticket now. Because she does meet what we want for a woman VP possible President. Not because she is a "woman" but rather she holds our views.
I do hope people vote because of the views/issues that are important to them.

I think I'm one of the posters Kathy's talking about. I was critical of the nomination of Palin, I still think they could have picked someone without young children, I wouldn't have a problem if her hubby was home with them, but I just don't understand how someone can leave a baby after just days of giving birth, to go back to work... That's just me though, and I'm not saying it's going to stop me from voting for her, It's just reason to give me pause... Having said all this, I'm truely a conservative... So it's not the lib's questioning her, we should all be questioning her, AND the other candidates as well...

No, it's the idea you and some other poster chose to twist it into. So typical. Never deal with what's written, deal with what you wish had been written so you can attack it.

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