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Old 09-05-2008, 04:02 PM
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McCain's speech

I wish that he had given specifics. I was expecting 9/11 to be mentioned but it was totally out of line for him to use footage of the 9/11 jumpers, It was crass and showed no respect for the victim's families.
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:03 PM
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:10 PM
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I agree, it was tawdry and revolting and completely unnecessary.

BTW, did you hear that McCain was a POW?
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Old 09-05-2008, 06:50 PM
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I agree, it was tawdry and revolting and completely unnecessary.

BTW, did you hear that McCain was a POW?
McCain and his POW experience is very relevant.
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:31 PM
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McCain and his POW experience is very relevant.
This is getting tiresome I'm sure but ... a noun, a verb, POW. A noun, a verb, purple bandaid pic

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Old 09-05-2008, 07:54 PM
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This is getting tiresome I'm sure but ... a noun, a verb, POW. A noun, a verb, purple bandaid pic

Well YOU are the one who keeps posting those pics!!! Actually, John McCain doesn't like to talk about his POW experiences. It is still relevant because of his life of service to his country. His story as a POW is remarkable. I don't tire of hearing about it-anyone who went through what he did, Dem or Rep, deserves our applause and respect. I know I never would have survived! So he can POW away as far as I'm concerned!!!
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:55 PM
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If John doesn't LIKE to talk about his POW experiences, why does he keep doing it? It is HIS mouth moving, right?
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Old 09-05-2008, 08:34 PM
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If John doesn't LIKE to talk about his POW experiences, why does he keep doing it? It is HIS mouth moving, right?
Probably the same reason that Obama is frequently talking about being a community organizer.
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Old 09-05-2008, 08:57 PM
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Probably the same reason that Obama is frequently talking about being a community organizer.
Now I know you're just funning with me.

Newsflash: Obama doesn't make a big deal out of pretending not to want to talk about his experiences and then do it anyway, like McCain does. If you have evidence to the contrary, please share it.
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:15 PM
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Now I know you're just funning with me.

Newsflash: Obama doesn't make a big deal out of pretending not to want to talk about his experiences and then do it anyway, like McCain does. If you have evidence to the contrary, please share it.
Obama does make it a point in some of his speeches this past year to talk about his years spent being a community organizer.
I see no big deal with either of them talking about the things in their life that left an impression on them.
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:19 PM
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When did Obama ever pretend he was reticent to talk about that? Do you see the difference between than and McCain's faux modesty? This issue isn't the talking, the issue is the pretending not to want to and then doing it anyway.
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Old 09-05-2008, 09:50 PM
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When did Obama ever pretend he was reticent to talk about that? Do you see the difference between than and McCain's faux modesty? This issue isn't the talking, the issue is the pretending not to want to and then doing it anyway.
I don't think it is faux modesty.. some veterans do not like to talk about their war experiences
but they do anyway.

I am sure Obama is more than pleased to talk about being a community organizer.

Here more about a "community organizer" from someone that has done it before.
Obama's "community organizer" phase was about political power, not soup kitchens | The Windy Citizen
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:25 PM
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I think that McCain is a hero. I can't imagine being a POW for such a long period. It really is remarkable.

But does that mean he is a person for whom I should vote?

No.

He doesn't hold dear the positions that I do. I don't even trust him to hold fast to the positions that he currently espouses, since his positions change with the political tide.

I'm not voting for the best POW, any more than I am voting for the best community organizer. I'm voting for someone who I think will express and press for my ideals as President.

And that is Obama.

Like it or leave it, there are very wide gulfs between the postions of Obama and McCain on issues. No thinking voter, in my opinion, would make their choice solely upon whether they valued McCain's POW service as more important than Obama's community service.

McCain did experience horrible things. I'm not about to argue that he didn't suffer physically and emotionally during his captivity.

But I don't view this election as a referendum as a sum total of who sacrificed more at some point in their life. I view it who can deliver more as president. And specifically, who would deliver more on the things that I think are important.

So, I admire McCain. I wouldn't actually want to sit at a dinner party with him, because he strikes me as totally caught up in the Mania of the Maverick, but I do admire him.

I'm voting for Obama because he does represent what I believe in. And nothing else on the fringes really matters that much.
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:39 PM
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Here more about a "community organizer" from someone that has done it before.
Obama's "community organizer" phase was about political power, not soup kitchens | The Windy Citizen
And here is an article from a fellow POW. In it he says "John allows the media to make him out to be THE hero POW, which he knows is absolutely not true, to further his political goals."
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Why I Will Not Vote for John McCain
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What an interesting and eye-opening article AMulquin. Thanks for posting the link......
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:59 AM
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I agree, it was tawdry and revolting and completely unnecessary.

BTW, did you hear that McCain was a POW?
Really!? I hadn't heard!
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:13 AM
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Really!? I hadn't heard!
Happy to help! BTW, you might also be interested to hear that Sarah Palin is a mother! Did you know that?!?
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I wouldn't want to be at a dinner with McCain because of the way he talks to women.
 

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